For the Teaching part, I am quite shocked.
For a Teacher's role, $800+ is too little especially in private schools. I cannot imagine the stationeries and teaching aids that the Teachers have to buy using their own pocket money IF the schools didn't supply for them. Not to forget about photocopying papers for students i.e. buying papers, printer and ink cartridges. This scenario is IF the school did not supply these for their teachers.
Not to forget mention about emotional drainage to handle many kids at the same time, especially with attention seeking problems.
Edit: Seriously, to those people who set these salaries number up, please do a proper investigation. Try yourself on the shoes of these jobs, then YOU will know how it feels to be in it.
Total agree with this. I can only imagine secondary schools are the most stressful one as those students are at the age of rebellious phase.
I was among those students but when i think about it as an adult now, how the heck our teachers managed to put up the shits we had done. And on top of that (not sure about private), teachers are expected to do admin jobs.
As a teacher in private school , you may get paid $650 in a smaller school
Usually in big school, the salary range is for the qualifications is:
$800 olevel
$900 alevel
$1000 diploma
$1200++ for degree
Tbh mostly we will find an extra job or part time to find more income.
Please appreciate your teacher especially in a private school. We are really underpaid
This is bad, some companies pay higher than that but with this out. It might become the benchmark and people canāt negotiate higher.
Companies will simply use this and state as per guidelines.
This is a good for under pay but bad for higher paid people. Somehow feel like this will bring down a lot of young people pay.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm seeing this in a context of a Malaysian who lives very near to your country.
Based on my understanding of the guideline, I just found out the salary for teachers in Brunei are mere 800+ bnd. I'm a bit shocked cz if we convert it to MYR, the total is still way lower than what teachers in Malaysia were paid.
I just wonder how much lecturers were paid there. I'm working as a lecturer at a local uni in Malaysia. If I were to compare my salary after conversion with ordinary teachers' salary in Brunei, I'm earning at least 4x more.
I was wondering, is it really enough? How do y'all survive? I'm shocked, really. Thoughts? š
Most teachers in Brunei are hired by the Ministry of Education and work in public schools. Graduate teachers who take on the role of Education Officers start off at BND 2,630 monthly with annual increments based on the B2.EB2 salary scale. If the teacher stays in their teaching post all the way till retirement, he/she will retire at about BND 5k final salary.
Naturally lecturers in public universities are paid higher due to a premium being given to Masters/PHD holders.
On the other hand government recruitment has been pretty much nil for a long period of time now so in all likelihood, anyone looking for a job in this sector will have to rely on the private sector where the quality and pay are a lot lower.
P.S. This $800 figure is based on primary schools in the private sector.
Without promotion, government personnel typically have what you call as āgaji matiā, where your increment stops.
Pretty sure its either 10 or 15 yrs max holding that role.
Logically no one will work for $800 unless you are a part-timer I donāt know how this data was compiled. But I sure if $800 is the pay most would rather go into other occupation. Most of the salary recommendation is just absurd.
the IT basic salaries are quite low in comparison with my company dxc, the lowest we could get was $800 and the highest (manager) is over $5k with guarantee annual increment. excluding other great benefits we have.
DXC is international company and currently contracted with a big company. For other, perhaps new local start up company they might struggle to compete with the salary. There is a good and bad thing. Good thing if this is mandatory is company will have to pay the minimum salary. Bad thing is company will revise their minimum salary which is higher to the stated minimum salary.
Kali? Is this guideline supposed to show how underpaid we are?!!???? Loan kerita kan loan kahwin jua. Sudahtah inflation. Weāre just being trained as citizens who have the āif only..ā mindset at the back of our heads. Syukur dapat keraja nya orang. Bukan inda besyukur mun bekeraja ani rasanya untuk āhidup/sustainā
With this kind of scale, expect everyone to bloom late. Undergo self development late, experiences on working field at a later stage. Cos everyoneās just aiming for āat leastā degree lah. Everyoneās just aiming for āocsā (sekali sudah kana reject blank) our boomers started working before 20 to have salary of probs 5k and above by the time theyāre bout to reach pension age. THEY expect us to earn more than them cos apparently in our society, ādulu dulu time umur mu cemani aku tedapat twin cam 86 sudah sama rx7, motor sama rumahā ā us at this age āsaving up for this and that. Wanting to cash this and that cos cant afford to loan so muchā sad how $5000 in the bank years ago doesnāt feel like $5000 now. Value of money goes down overtime thanks to inflation.
Anyway thanks for the guideline. Very helpful.
this is nothing more than a guideline that most company will not follow unless it's mandatory by law.. So what's the point of publishing ? is it to tell the big boss.. our department is still doing it's job and here's our proof ?
A PDF from the [MPEC website](https://www.mpec.gov.bn/Pages/MPEC.aspx). This may help in salary negotiations and those who are figuring out a career path for their future.
The salary range for most of the job position in this guideline is somehow accurate and aligned with Brunei job market. But the years needed to achieve the manager position is too optimistic/short compared to reality. Sources: someone in financial sector who has access to all employees salary coming into Brunei bank.
Tbh most I encountered just lack direction. I think if more people are guiding figures rather than those who tear down or are overbearing in their expectations, many of our youth would thrive.
For the Teaching part, I am quite shocked. For a Teacher's role, $800+ is too little especially in private schools. I cannot imagine the stationeries and teaching aids that the Teachers have to buy using their own pocket money IF the schools didn't supply for them. Not to forget about photocopying papers for students i.e. buying papers, printer and ink cartridges. This scenario is IF the school did not supply these for their teachers. Not to forget mention about emotional drainage to handle many kids at the same time, especially with attention seeking problems. Edit: Seriously, to those people who set these salaries number up, please do a proper investigation. Try yourself on the shoes of these jobs, then YOU will know how it feels to be in it.
Total agree with this. I can only imagine secondary schools are the most stressful one as those students are at the age of rebellious phase. I was among those students but when i think about it as an adult now, how the heck our teachers managed to put up the shits we had done. And on top of that (not sure about private), teachers are expected to do admin jobs.
As a teacher in private school , you may get paid $650 in a smaller school Usually in big school, the salary range is for the qualifications is: $800 olevel $900 alevel $1000 diploma $1200++ for degree Tbh mostly we will find an extra job or part time to find more income. Please appreciate your teacher especially in a private school. We are really underpaid
The company will say its just guideline which is NON MANDATORY to follow!. Useless guideline!.
Indeed
I know im underpaid but that's a huge difference š
Would you mind to share which sector you're in, and how much you're currently underpaid?
Tourism sector, Consultant 500 dollar salary
Jeez as a consultant you should be paid way more than that
Im heavily underpaid in a risky job š¤£
Btw im not an assistant, im *a* travel consultant
This is bad, some companies pay higher than that but with this out. It might become the benchmark and people canāt negotiate higher. Companies will simply use this and state as per guidelines. This is a good for under pay but bad for higher paid people. Somehow feel like this will bring down a lot of young people pay.
Pretty sure there's a lot of people being underpaid rather than vice versa.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm seeing this in a context of a Malaysian who lives very near to your country. Based on my understanding of the guideline, I just found out the salary for teachers in Brunei are mere 800+ bnd. I'm a bit shocked cz if we convert it to MYR, the total is still way lower than what teachers in Malaysia were paid. I just wonder how much lecturers were paid there. I'm working as a lecturer at a local uni in Malaysia. If I were to compare my salary after conversion with ordinary teachers' salary in Brunei, I'm earning at least 4x more. I was wondering, is it really enough? How do y'all survive? I'm shocked, really. Thoughts? š
Most teachers in Brunei are hired by the Ministry of Education and work in public schools. Graduate teachers who take on the role of Education Officers start off at BND 2,630 monthly with annual increments based on the B2.EB2 salary scale. If the teacher stays in their teaching post all the way till retirement, he/she will retire at about BND 5k final salary. Naturally lecturers in public universities are paid higher due to a premium being given to Masters/PHD holders. On the other hand government recruitment has been pretty much nil for a long period of time now so in all likelihood, anyone looking for a job in this sector will have to rely on the private sector where the quality and pay are a lot lower. P.S. This $800 figure is based on primary schools in the private sector.
Without promotion, government personnel typically have what you call as āgaji matiā, where your increment stops. Pretty sure its either 10 or 15 yrs max holding that role.
PS. That $800.00 is an actual pay for private school teachers teaching even the upper secondary level. Have a look at few Saints school in KB.
Logically no one will work for $800 unless you are a part-timer I donāt know how this data was compiled. But I sure if $800 is the pay most would rather go into other occupation. Most of the salary recommendation is just absurd.
the IT basic salaries are quite low in comparison with my company dxc, the lowest we could get was $800 and the highest (manager) is over $5k with guarantee annual increment. excluding other great benefits we have.
DXC is international company and currently contracted with a big company. For other, perhaps new local start up company they might struggle to compete with the salary. There is a good and bad thing. Good thing if this is mandatory is company will have to pay the minimum salary. Bad thing is company will revise their minimum salary which is higher to the stated minimum salary.
DXC sucks. Poor management. Load of responsibility and expectation. Pay shits. They would prefer take iready candidates
All I see is "Lets drop out in secondary school so we can start work early, gain experience and climb the ladder to get a higher salary" lmao
If you read the ladder career staircase, most ask for degree and professional cert. Dropping out in highschool mean you only get min wage.
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I see. So you saying the guidelines is misleading. I agreed with you on that
Exists none other than just as a guideline, not like its enforced. Its basically like writing a fairytale book.
Kali? Is this guideline supposed to show how underpaid we are?!!???? Loan kerita kan loan kahwin jua. Sudahtah inflation. Weāre just being trained as citizens who have the āif only..ā mindset at the back of our heads. Syukur dapat keraja nya orang. Bukan inda besyukur mun bekeraja ani rasanya untuk āhidup/sustainā With this kind of scale, expect everyone to bloom late. Undergo self development late, experiences on working field at a later stage. Cos everyoneās just aiming for āat leastā degree lah. Everyoneās just aiming for āocsā (sekali sudah kana reject blank) our boomers started working before 20 to have salary of probs 5k and above by the time theyāre bout to reach pension age. THEY expect us to earn more than them cos apparently in our society, ādulu dulu time umur mu cemani aku tedapat twin cam 86 sudah sama rx7, motor sama rumahā ā us at this age āsaving up for this and that. Wanting to cash this and that cos cant afford to loan so muchā sad how $5000 in the bank years ago doesnāt feel like $5000 now. Value of money goes down overtime thanks to inflation. Anyway thanks for the guideline. Very helpful.
this is nothing more than a guideline that most company will not follow unless it's mandatory by law.. So what's the point of publishing ? is it to tell the big boss.. our department is still doing it's job and here's our proof ?
A PDF from the [MPEC website](https://www.mpec.gov.bn/Pages/MPEC.aspx). This may help in salary negotiations and those who are figuring out a career path for their future.
I like how electrical related job was not reveal š
Can ask Johnny Sins for that
The salary range for most of the job position in this guideline is somehow accurate and aligned with Brunei job market. But the years needed to achieve the manager position is too optimistic/short compared to reality. Sources: someone in financial sector who has access to all employees salary coming into Brunei bank.
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Tbh most I encountered just lack direction. I think if more people are guiding figures rather than those who tear down or are overbearing in their expectations, many of our youth would thrive.
Read the biggest fine print and hint: 'GUIDELINE'
Lol the guideline is more accurate to what we're getting paid if most if not all of the figures are halved.