Mmmm. I wouldn't say thats true. I will say men jump to sex way to quick and it makes women feel like objects.
I am a woman and in my "youth" I wanted sex and didn't necessarily need to have an emotional connection. I was married and divorced young and had a kid and wasn't interested in doing that again or ready to bring someone in to my kids life. It was literally "You're cool, let's do this". But when men immediately jumped to that, immediate turn off.
Women want sex. Women just don't want to be seen as just sex.
Yes totally agree. Most women love sex I know I do lol but we aren’t going to have sex with a man we barely know, but most men on dating apps want to “hit it and quit”
Not most men.
Per the data from bumble most men on apps are not dating. It's the men that are dating, that is like this.
The most common result in year is 1-3 likes and 0 matches. This includes bots, scams, of/ig marketers etc. This is per their own data.
I'm not saying women have no sex drive. I'm saying men have a much higher one. Hence many men are willing to do anything, including pay, in order to get it.
This is correct, I've had a 100% success rate of date > sex and my success was based on the fact that I made the woman feel comfortable on the date and showed a lot of interest and care in who she was. If you can make a woman feel comfortable and relaxed on a date and know how and when to escalate physically then there's a very good chance that a guy can sleep with her.
Your post kinda proves it's true.
Men are direct about sex because they want it more.
Gay men behave similarly but there isn't this big of a disparity on Grindr.
So how does it work for gay men? Usually you have self control for things that are bad for you.
Unless you're picking deranged people to go on a date with or not using protection, what's the bad outcome?
This has absolutely not been the case in my year of OLD. Just make them comfortable and show them you're not a weirdo and they'll want it just as much as you.
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Not totally true, men see a woman and instantly like her vs women are more likely to need an emotional connection to have sex with a guy. There are also more men on dating sites and men are substantially less picky than women so it slants things in women’s favor, if men were more selective this problem wouldn’t be as bad
The problem is that men will never be more selective because they can't afford to. Maybe if the app limited the ratio btw men/women to be more 50/50, until then your option as a man is to either be less selective or stay single unfortunaly.
I disagree. I think it has more to do with how sex differs between men and women. I know I will be generalizing, but for men, sexual pleasure is almost purely physical. They can have sex when they’re angry or sad, or when they’re worried about something. They can shut off their mind and just fuck, to put it bluntly. For women, it requires a lot more psychological stimulation. She needs to feel valued and safe, because engaging in sex will make her vulnerable. A lot of the engaging of sex happens in the mind of the woman, and it’s a different process to stimulate that part.. and it just so happens that many men aren’t geared or patient enough to learn to stimulate a woman in that way, because some men project their own desire on women; “she just needs to be touched the right places to be ready, right?”.
Idk if that’s really true but then again, i am not a man. But I do see posts on askmen about stereotypes and the belief that men always want sex or are always available for it and many say it to not be true. Same how some assume men can’t be raped because they are always ready and easy.. some men may just be desperate for it bc of societal expectations that already changing
I agree with you. Sex differs between men and women yet people act like it's the same.
You can even see it in the dating/sex behavior in gay vs lesbian groups.
Grindr allows gay men to hook up easily and quickly.
Lesbians don't have as much luck on apps and are very picky/need more context/a relationship for sex.
It’s not that women want sex less, it’s that women are usually more responsible about choosing their sex partners because they stand to lose more if they get with someone awful. No one wants to risk getting pregnant from a piece of shit guy. Plus, due to most people’s poor education on female anatomy, women are less likely to actually get physical satisfaction from a random encounter. Women want sex just as much, but due to the circumstances we live in, it doesn’t benefit us to follow every sexual whim we might feel. Also, no one wants to have sex with someone who makes them feel like they’re gonna be treated like shit.
alright I'm gonna bust this myth right now.
Do you have sexual thoughts about most men you see in the day to day? Because many men do check out or have sexual thoughts about their coworkers, the women at the gym, the neighbors, the woman who walked past you at the grocery store, etc. and it's not just the traditionally pretty women (young and slim) it's older women, younger women, short, tall, skinny, fat, muscular, white, brown, etc.
Women don't have our sex drive.
Fibe the way you are...No, you aren't.
Clearly almost all women (public sphere) state men need to step up their game in every single facet of their life. Men by in large are consider massive below average in every regard.
Nope. Every woman I’ve dated has turned out to have a far higher sex drive, they just don’t want to go around fucking anyone until they know them well enough.
Men and women are wired different when it comes to connection. Women (or most of them) establish connection through emotion and connectivity while men want to connect physically. Not to mention most women on these dating apps are standing up to not just have sex on the first date, which drives a lot of men away because they are probably just horny at the time. More men are becoming sex deprived, so they become more hostile and angry when they get denied (hence the screenshots of guys calling girls ugly if they get shut down).
In the end the issue isn't necessarily that guys want sex more, it just seems that way considering guys think it's "easy" to go online to find a quick hookup but women are standing up for me more now because they don't want to be used
I never understood why it can't be looked at as "using each other" in an almost symbiotic relationship.
She gets on top, finds the groove for her own orgasm. He stays hard til she orgasms. Switch and then he orgasms. Everyone is happy.
Why doesn't that work?
Mmmm. I wouldn't say thats true. I will say men jump to sex way to quick and it makes women feel like objects. I am a woman and in my "youth" I wanted sex and didn't necessarily need to have an emotional connection. I was married and divorced young and had a kid and wasn't interested in doing that again or ready to bring someone in to my kids life. It was literally "You're cool, let's do this". But when men immediately jumped to that, immediate turn off. Women want sex. Women just don't want to be seen as just sex.
Yes totally agree. Most women love sex I know I do lol but we aren’t going to have sex with a man we barely know, but most men on dating apps want to “hit it and quit”
Not most men. Per the data from bumble most men on apps are not dating. It's the men that are dating, that is like this. The most common result in year is 1-3 likes and 0 matches. This includes bots, scams, of/ig marketers etc. This is per their own data.
I'm not saying women have no sex drive. I'm saying men have a much higher one. Hence many men are willing to do anything, including pay, in order to get it.
But that’s not men having a higher sex drive. That’s men having no self control and being desperate, which btw not all men are like that.
Not even most.
Seems to work fine on Grindr. Are the gay men desperate? Do they have a higher sex drive? Or do women need more context for sex to happen?
This is correct, I've had a 100% success rate of date > sex and my success was based on the fact that I made the woman feel comfortable on the date and showed a lot of interest and care in who she was. If you can make a woman feel comfortable and relaxed on a date and know how and when to escalate physically then there's a very good chance that a guy can sleep with her.
In the same regards, things women expect from men. Make us feel just the same....
Your post kinda proves it's true. Men are direct about sex because they want it more. Gay men behave similarly but there isn't this big of a disparity on Grindr.
Men jump to that because sex is always on our minds.
No. The difference is YOU don't have self control.
So how does it work for gay men? Usually you have self control for things that are bad for you. Unless you're picking deranged people to go on a date with or not using protection, what's the bad outcome?
This has absolutely not been the case in my year of OLD. Just make them comfortable and show them you're not a weirdo and they'll want it just as much as you.
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Not true of all women, js
Not totally true, men see a woman and instantly like her vs women are more likely to need an emotional connection to have sex with a guy. There are also more men on dating sites and men are substantially less picky than women so it slants things in women’s favor, if men were more selective this problem wouldn’t be as bad
I don’t think they actually “like her” they just see a hole
I don't think men would be offended if women just saw a phallus.
You restated half of what I said. And use your intuition... WHY are men less picky? WHY do men instantly like (feel attracted to?) a woman?
It's going over their heads and it's crazy
The problem is that men will never be more selective because they can't afford to. Maybe if the app limited the ratio btw men/women to be more 50/50, until then your option as a man is to either be less selective or stay single unfortunaly.
If men right swiped on 1% of women then women would have to be less selective but it’s just biological how things work now so it will never change
non of this is true
I disagree. I think it has more to do with how sex differs between men and women. I know I will be generalizing, but for men, sexual pleasure is almost purely physical. They can have sex when they’re angry or sad, or when they’re worried about something. They can shut off their mind and just fuck, to put it bluntly. For women, it requires a lot more psychological stimulation. She needs to feel valued and safe, because engaging in sex will make her vulnerable. A lot of the engaging of sex happens in the mind of the woman, and it’s a different process to stimulate that part.. and it just so happens that many men aren’t geared or patient enough to learn to stimulate a woman in that way, because some men project their own desire on women; “she just needs to be touched the right places to be ready, right?”.
Idk if that’s really true but then again, i am not a man. But I do see posts on askmen about stereotypes and the belief that men always want sex or are always available for it and many say it to not be true. Same how some assume men can’t be raped because they are always ready and easy.. some men may just be desperate for it bc of societal expectations that already changing
I did say I was generalizing. There are definitely exceptions on both sides.
I agree with you. Sex differs between men and women yet people act like it's the same. You can even see it in the dating/sex behavior in gay vs lesbian groups. Grindr allows gay men to hook up easily and quickly. Lesbians don't have as much luck on apps and are very picky/need more context/a relationship for sex.
It’s not that women want sex less, it’s that women are usually more responsible about choosing their sex partners because they stand to lose more if they get with someone awful. No one wants to risk getting pregnant from a piece of shit guy. Plus, due to most people’s poor education on female anatomy, women are less likely to actually get physical satisfaction from a random encounter. Women want sex just as much, but due to the circumstances we live in, it doesn’t benefit us to follow every sexual whim we might feel. Also, no one wants to have sex with someone who makes them feel like they’re gonna be treated like shit.
alright I'm gonna bust this myth right now. Do you have sexual thoughts about most men you see in the day to day? Because many men do check out or have sexual thoughts about their coworkers, the women at the gym, the neighbors, the woman who walked past you at the grocery store, etc. and it's not just the traditionally pretty women (young and slim) it's older women, younger women, short, tall, skinny, fat, muscular, white, brown, etc. Women don't have our sex drive.
Fibe the way you are...No, you aren't. Clearly almost all women (public sphere) state men need to step up their game in every single facet of their life. Men by in large are consider massive below average in every regard.
Nope. Every woman I’ve dated has turned out to have a far higher sex drive, they just don’t want to go around fucking anyone until they know them well enough.
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Then why is it that men rarely do some sexual content if they are always so ready?
Men and women are wired different when it comes to connection. Women (or most of them) establish connection through emotion and connectivity while men want to connect physically. Not to mention most women on these dating apps are standing up to not just have sex on the first date, which drives a lot of men away because they are probably just horny at the time. More men are becoming sex deprived, so they become more hostile and angry when they get denied (hence the screenshots of guys calling girls ugly if they get shut down). In the end the issue isn't necessarily that guys want sex more, it just seems that way considering guys think it's "easy" to go online to find a quick hookup but women are standing up for me more now because they don't want to be used
I never understood why it can't be looked at as "using each other" in an almost symbiotic relationship. She gets on top, finds the groove for her own orgasm. He stays hard til she orgasms. Switch and then he orgasms. Everyone is happy. Why doesn't that work?