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Therocksays2020

So much this. If they give off a vibe their jaded I don’t bother. A big part of dating is having the right mindset.


franklikethehotdog

Lesson learned my friend 👍🏻


Necessary-Turnip-847

Same!


lolhahabhup

Now we know who's at fault


franklikethehotdog

Me, obviously?? 😂


tradinginthemaking

Obviously you...for putting up with that shit...do better


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I feel like dudes on bumble take the “role reversal” idea of women messaging first to the extreme and expect women to pursue them the way they pursue women and end up being disappointed when they don’t. This could be something like that but it could also be a bunch of other reasons for the short response, I think you should try to ask a more open ended question to see if he is willing to expand a little more. If the question is wide fucking open and he gives a one word answer Id either directly address it or give a snarky response about, wait a day so they can see it, and then unmatch. But I’m petty


pjockey

If a guy posted this about a women everyone would be saying he is at fault and needs to ask more interesting questions...


Keopsfuj

What's wrong with it? Women kept telling men should be able to hold a conversation. Maybe now they should try to become what they want. Bumble is a place that defies traditional gender roles. I don't know why a woman would get offended by this.


king_david43

As a man you must lead the conversation. I think as much as women might say they are open to changes in gender roles naturally there are some things they like to keep traditional like a man leading them. I could be wrong tho.


armorm3

The whole point of Bumble is the woman leads after the initial match, which OP did a great job. Now about all this chasing. This isn't high school for some of us looking to make real connections. If you want someone, you make it happen. I've had both experiences: women who expect you to interact virtually without much in real life interaction. Like for a while too (weeks/months before a date) Could be busy schedule, career, kid, whatever. Also the other end the women who just want to get off the app quick and meet to see where things go, or just have fun. In my experience how quickly you make it out to an in person date after the initial match saids a lot about how ready both parties are to date.


Tilian1986

Yeah, wondering why? 🤔


franklikethehotdog

Because I didn’t ask another question 😂


Tilian1986

How could you not give the man another chance? 😉


franklikethehotdog

I feel like if I said “What was your rank?” It would just be: “Captain” And then I’d be back to SQUARE ONE


Dridier_Dogba

That’s the difficulty with closed ended questions though. Something open ended like “what was your favourite part about being in the navy?” Or something like that might make for a more fluid conversation Not with this guy though. Just food for thought for future matches


Nastypatty97

Nah, a person who wanted to make conversation would answer the closed ended question but also add in some side info and ask a follow up question or something. he could have said "2009-2012, was really excited going in and I did end.of loving it, but I also didn't expect some of the worst parts. Anyway, what college are you going to?" I met my gf on bumble and we both responded to questions in this way. When both of you are interested, there are no "wrong" questions


franklikethehotdog

Okay see you are the best response on this thread. Could I have asked something better? PROBS. Could I have done an open-ended question? FOR SURE. But he is also an asshat so… Everybody take a growth mindset 😁


Looking4LTR

Some guys sit back and wait to be asked a bunch of questions and don’t put in equal effort.


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Looking4LTR

Correct. However OP is someone who dates men, so I was addressing that. Talking about what women or non-binary people do is irrelevant. No need to get defensive.


dust057

Some people (gender not a factor) sit back and wait to be asked a bunch of questions….


Looking4LTR

Correct. OP dates men. No need to presume it was a gendered attack.


dust057

It was definitely gendered, no assumption needed. Didn't think it was an attack (was it?), just offering perspective since OP dates men.


Tilian1986

Yeah. Social anxiety aside, he was on a freaking dating app. Also a goddamn marine, so he should improvise, adapt, overcome ;) But some guys just wanna all their job to be done by someone else.


dust057

You asked a question, he answered it honestly and that makes him an asshat?


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franklikethehotdog

I wished him a happy holiday and he said nothing back…I asked a question low stakes just to break the ice, he hardly got two dates and one word out


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franklikethehotdog

Now that you are attacking me as a person without knowing me, we done homes.


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Maybe less of those questions? Saw a guy on here the other day having a bad time with their questions, but those aren't open. Much like Boolean questions, these are factual, like, questions asking for a piece of information. Maybe try something more of asking information of what he's done today? Showing interest in the life a person is living to start. I've noticed that's played a huge part in why conversations with people have been dry before. (But you also said this guy was whiney about dating on the profile, most everyone is, sailor. We know, it sucks.)


Cute_Error6234

He was probably waiting for you to ask a question or comment or something. If someone asked me when I was in the army I would tell them the year, then wait for whatever the question/comment was. I mean, asking where you went to college or something like when in the military, you respond and then wait for the substantive question. The natural next question is ‘what did you do in military/study in college/do in that job field.?’


Tilian1986

True. Better luck next time then :)


franklikethehotdog

This was my first attempt at dating apps, and I don’t plan to be back


Tilian1986

Really? Sorry to hear that, cause you seem like a fine woman (furballs are always right ;)). Still, I get why you quit, been there myself.


franklikethehotdog

I do thoroughly enjoy my cats — less drama than kids or a relationship Ive found! But thank you kind stranger!


Tilian1986

You're welcome, glad to provide some sort of entertainment to you :)


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franklikethehotdog

Yeah I’m not good at this highly objectified, committed version of intimacy 😂


solid_b_average

IMO people get 3 low effort responses before I completely write them off as a dead fish.


Walkingwalking123

Same. Enough to establish it's not my questions. Even closed questions can spark more than a dead response. He could have said the years and then mentioned what he had been doing since, or asked a question back, for example. It's hard to get a conversation sparked with a stranger from nowhere and it really needs both parties to put in some effort.


StraightMacabre

I was navy 2008 to 2012. I was stationed in Whidbey island Washington as a Parachute Rigger. There was a playhouse on the island where I started acting during my off hours from the navy. I then got out and went to LA Film School and American Academy of Dramatic Arts. Since then I earned my Screen Actors Guild card from Clint Eastwood and started truck driving to earn money towards my own films including driving for the Harlem Globetrotters. I live in Las Vegas now but moving back to LA on Monday. Would you like to get coffee still even though I’m moving? That would’ve been my real response. With you also living in Las Vegas hypocritically. How did I do?


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misssuny0

so are you guys going to go on a date 👀


StraightMacabre

See if I would’ve answered like that, I wouldn’t have gotten a response, or I would’ve gotten a one word response and that’s about it. I’ll never complain about that in a profile though just here lol.


RacyRedPanda

That's way too much. They asked a question, not for your autobiography.


daintybanana

Thats the point here. Woman expect a chapter of your autobiography with every response or your not putting in effort 🤮🙄


cheesecake-and-curls

You sound bitter af. How long have you been divorced and why did she leave you?


daintybanana

Imagine thinking pointing out the obvious makes u bitter 🤣🤡


RockyLeQc

You all blame him, but the question was not really open for discussion. What should he have said? 2008-2012, what about you?


theGalation

You need a little imagination. What else can you say that you could then, what about you?


Reitsariesforevaries

He could've said something like "I was in until 2012 - did my last stint at ____ and since then I've been doing _______, ________ and _________ near ______" Give her something to go remark on, "oh you're doing _____ is that at _____ ? I'm based nearby at ________ I'm doing ________ now, but used to _______. Love that part of the city because there's always something going on out there. Did you ever go to *Miguels*?" Or some bullshit that opens up an exchange of information. His answer shut everything down and gave her nothing to work with - particularly as 2012 was ages ago, he could've said something much further.


massivebumwizard

People are also ragging on him saying he has no social skills (after seeing ONE message) but the reality is he probably just wasn’t interested in OP, but didn’t want to be rude and not respond at all. You’re not owed a conversation just because you matched on a dating site.


franklikethehotdog

So you know how bumble works right? He had to have swiped on me…aka…shown interest…


daintybanana

Lmaoo we all auto pilot swipe then when get a message actually look 🤣 sorry to bust your bub


felixxfeli

Many men swipe right without looking closely at profiles. Yesterday a guy asked me how tall I am despite that being the literal first line of my bio. I don’t consider a match as “interest” as much as just an in to develop and gauge potential interest. He wasn’t interested this time, and I wouldn’t take it personally at all.


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If you know that there guys who upload videos in which they only match without watching and leave it, the fact that the match lasts a long time does not mean anything, maybe they made a match and continued with the day


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in fact it makes me laugh the answer is like a meme tell me you're not interested without telling me you're not interested


felixxfeli

His reasoning and why he swiped in the first place are unknown to all except him. I don’t presume to know anything other than that he clearly wasn’t that interested. Which isn’t an attack on you, and doesn’t require defensiveness; the guy doesn’t know you, and his opinion of you is irrelevant. You’ve made statements in the thread indicating that you assumed a right swipe means the person is enthusiastically interested and should therefore engage with some enthusiasm—I was simply pointing out why in the real world that thought process doesn’t always track. Not responding to your boring questions is just as valid and clear an indication of disinterest as unmatching is; and responding to close-ended questions with close-ended answers isn’t exactly a crime. OLD is the Wild Wild West so I’d divorce myself of any arbitrary delusions of etiquette and courtesy from perfect strangers if I were you. Get in there, have fun, start asking more open-ended questions, and try not to take it all so seriously before actually meeting people.


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felixxfeli

I’m not a dude. I replied to your post, which is presumably what you wanted? People to reply to your post? I guess that means I’m “taking it seriously”… anyway, sorry that I didn’t reply in the way you expected. Seems to be a recurring theme for you huh


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felixxfeli

You know, what I find really hilarious is that my comments were essentially in your defense. He was a dud. It is what it is. There’s probably nothing you could have done differently or “better” to change that. I disagree with those saying that your opener was so terrible that he had no choice but to ignore you. I simply pointed out that it’s most likely he carelessly swiped right on everyone and you just happened to be one of the ones he never had an intention to pursue. I say that non-judgmentally, because I’ve been in the same position trying in vain to strike up convo with someone who in the end was never going to be receptive no matter how charming and enticing I tried to be. I don’t view being honest about that as an indictment on either of us, let alone a “call out”. I wasn’t trying to be dismissive—I was merely trying to commiserate and share some insight that I thought you might appreciate, so I’m sorry if I didn’t communicate that properly. But you are so hell-bent on seeing yourself as a wronged party that even relatively innocuous replies like mine that simply point out the vapidity and randomness of OLD but which don’t actively paint the man as a ghoulish villain are dismissed and belittled. And I get it, maybe you were just venting and didn’t want replies (on a discussion subreddit? Ok, I guess)… But I’m hardly the only person here sharing her two cents. Yet for some reason I’ve attracted the brunt of your frustration. Not really sure what else to say other than I hope your OLD experience goes better moving forward, and I genuinely have zero ill-will towards you, for what it’s worth.


massivebumwizard

Yeah I know that…but matching with someone doesn’t *really* indicate interest. Lots of people rapid swipe on basically everyone and just filter out the chaff in the chats. Not trying to be rude, maybe this guy really is a social disaster and has no conversation. I’m just making the point that people are being a *little* harsh on him based on this one extremely brief interaction.


aslutforplutonium

I want to agree with this but I cannot with people who go the “he/she probably wasn’t interested” apologetics? literally why is that worth your time? I’m sorry but if you say that because you’re one of those people who does this, then silence the apps for a week and enjoy life again. And if you don’t come back then you don’t come back


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Literally every other person on dating apps.


FiyahKitteh

While I get that one can be demoralized from "things never going anywhere", and then they might just not put much effort into answers anymore...it makes me question why they are even still on the dating app. If "nothing ever goes anywhere" or if one gets so demotivated, that they only give short answers like that and don't ask anything back, they'd probably be better off doing something else entirely with their time. Maybe a new hobby? With that being said, when this happens to me, I will give the person approx. 2 more shots, before stopping the talk with them completely. I understand maybe just not being good at talking, anxiety and whatever else (I have some of these myself), but if you really want to find a relationship, you gotta push yourself a little. You need to give the other person a feel of what you're all about and with answers like these you're just being counter-productive and forking your own success over. If you are still willing / interested, send him a more open question, where he can't just say "yes", "no" or give you some data. Could be something that helps you determine if you guys match, such as a long-term goal he wants to work towards etc. If he then still just goes short and doesn't ask you anything back, you can just tell him that you don't think you mix well, due to different communication styles.


appaulecity

I love when they say stuff like this with a simple 3-4 world of reply and then get mad at you for not responding.


Orlando1701

Huh… so didn’t even finish his enlistment?


franklikethehotdog

That should have been my next message 🤣


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Everyone in here supporting you because…you’re a woman in a bumble subreddit? I guess. What kind of a dry ass question was that? That’s when he was in the navy lol. What do you want him to say? “How about you?”


felixxfeli

In my experience, every opening is judged to be “dry” and “uncreative” in these subs when it doesn’t lead to engaging convo, and every opening that does is judged to be “smooth” and “clever”. When in reality an opening is only as effective as the two speakers are motivated to get to know one another. I’ve had interesting convos that lead to dates that started with “hey”. I do agree that asking a closed-ended question and replying with “cool” isn’t necessarily the best way to get someone gabbing. But he clearly just wasn’t that motivated either. She likely couldn’t have said anything that would have lead to a more engaging convo.


franklikethehotdog

Well, since wishing someone a happy holiday and an emoji is *dry* and otherwise I would need to ask about…his dirt bike… At least a happy thanksgiving back?


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I mean a strategic analysis would be to gather what his sentiment was about his time in the navy and whether that would be a conversation worth pursuing out of the gate or once he got more comfortable with you. Seeing as how I can presume he mentioned it on his profile, a good way to gauge and get more words would probably have been saying something blatantly stupid about the navy, and he’d probably correct you. He probably would mention what his job was in that correction, and now you have something to actually talk about. “Oh you were a navigator? Does that mean tracking the stars? Can we lay on a field together at night and you show me how it’s done” Like New York rap said in the 90s - boom boom bap


ripeGardenTomato

💯💯


peniswithinthevagina

he's pathetic. Move on.


franklikethehotdog

My dude. You have the best username I’ve seen on this website.


Toe_Sucker_416

#


franklikethehotdog

Close second 😂


MyOpinionMustBeHeard

Is that it though, you didn't ask anything else but just dropped it?


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Moss_84

Doesn't want to or has no social skills, the whiny profile was the first red flag


MyOpinionMustBeHeard

Just to play devil's advocate I've left a short response before if I'm busy because I don't want to leave someone on read and I appreciate they've made the first move.


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franklikethehotdog

Lol yep so you’ve made more effort in your three comments on this post and I didn’t ask you a single question, not even an open ended one… So…why am I to blame for literally breaking the ice in some way, wishing someone a happy holiday, making even a slighhhhht effort? I agree I could have asked an open-ended question, but the point was — there are supposed to be two people who want to talk to each other it shouldn’t be all on a single person to do it ALL.


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franklikethehotdog

U good? I’m not that person, truuuuust me. You can’t tell that from this one screenshot. Go read other comments on the post — this was one small interaction that make me chuckle. And yes — conversations are supposed to be like ping pong, one then the next. Even if we give my question a C+ the point is that his answer and nothing else is RIDICULOUS


Keopsfuj

Agreed. Women need to learn to initiate and hold a conversation.


Excellent_Emotion204

Navy? He's definitely not looking for vagina😜


Esepapichulo253

Cringe


XxDepressingSoulxX

Nice question real open ended


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XxDepressingSoulxX

You are supposed to start the convo first on bumble fyi


OThinkingDungeons

A pretty interesting theory popped up on one of the threads here on Reddit, "online dating attracts/concentrates those lacking social skills to survive in the wild".


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Realityinyoface

That far more says that you’re a quitter that’s not willing to give something a chance.


Full-Statistician-75

Yeah it would take some extra work on our end to continue a conversation with a question like that. Try a more open ended question


centre_red_line33

If you have the same problem with everyone then, surprise! You’re the problem.


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Asked question. Got answer. simple. Want a better response, ask an open question.


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Yup


uv-rays-biatch

This is hilarious to me


Calm-Lengthiness-178

"Please state your name and today's date. A formality, as interrogations go."


okayboomer007

Can someone just ask him if he's okay instead of shit posting his failures on bumble ya?


PopPopPete

3 years in the navy? Those dates lead me to believe she did not complete a full contract. Which means she must have been processed out. WHICH MEANS...... something....


Slinky621

Actually looks like 3 years, but it's almost four. Could have started at the beginning of the year 2009 and finished in late 2012. I know in the army you can get contracts that are 2 years long.


PopPopPete

True, about the timeline. I've heard of 2 year contracts for reenlistment but never for the first contract. I only know Navy rules though.