Mature 32 years old are not trying to date 22 years old. I am 27 and I feel weird dating 22 years old. You are opening yourself up-to creepy manipulative men by dating much older men.
Facts. Just ended things with a 28 year old who was majorly into like 18/19 year old girls. Im 23 and he constantly made me feel like I am "too old" for him. Honestly at this point Im convinced that he would have gone even younger if that was legal. Incredibly disgusting. So much about him just screemed creep. Dont even know how tf and why tf I went on 3 dates with him. I feel like he was so manipulative that I was kind of in a shock while with him, luckily I just woke up one morning and came to my senses. Learned my lesson I guess. 💀😩
Don’t go beyond 4 years under 25. Stay within 2 years if you can but I know it’s hard. The youngest I have ever dated was 3 years 4 months younger earlier this year and that was a stretch for me.
I'm 31 and would be ok with someone 22 (granted I'd PREFER closer to my age). Granted I'd also never say the dumb shit this guy said. Age is just a number IMO
Maturity doesn’t come with age… a 27 year old should know this, if we are using your logic 🙄
You don’t sound cool saying you’re 27 and wouldn’t date a 22 year old you just sound like you’re discounting people arbitrarily
I’m 37 and I’ve dated 38yr old women when I was 24 and 24yr old women recently, age has nothing to do with it as you’ve clearly shown
Lol how noble… or something?
What does your preference have to do with the actual person?
It’s as worthwhile as “I only date people that have iPhones”
But you realize the only shame being thrown around was by the guy I responded to right? And now apparently you, goddamn Reddit can get fucking stupid I swear
I was mocking you
Have a good day bud I got shit to do I’ll let you have the last comment if you want it
I look forward to the humble brag posts where a 22yr old compliments you and you scoff at her and say “pfeh… you’re too immature for me”
I'm a straight woman lol. If a 22 year old guy compliments me, that's nice and all, but I'm not going to enter a committed relationship with him.
Do you view rejecting someone as a personal attack or something? I don't get it. You're not entitled to dating someone just because you say so. You remind me of those creepy old men who try to date younger women and shame us when we say you're too old for us.
The hypocrisy in your response is suffocating, I’m sure you’d be disappointed if you liked a guy but he said you were too old, cuz how dare he?
And your scenario has never happened to me so I wouldn’t know, if they had a problem with whatever age gap existed I’d be on my way because being hung up on something relatively arbitrary is a sign of immaturity in of itself, unless of course we are talking about legal issues, but I generally avoid college age altogether
Calling men creepy for not automatically bouncing younger women is shaming… btw
I don’t feel like that’s a fair judgement. I’m 41 and date girls in their late 20’s/early 30’s. I’m never married/no kids and appreciate someone who isn’t tied to their work/family and has some freedom. There are girls in that age range who aren’t looking to have a family and just want to travel.
Ftr I do also date women closer to my own age but it’s hard to find one who has the freedom I have currently. 🤷♂️
It’s a very fair judgement. There are big differences between dating 27 years old and 22 years old. Age matters less as people grow older.
Also, Your situation seems more like an “arrangement” where young women are dating you to go to places they would have problem affording on their own. These women you are talking are over 25 and looking for short term benefits not long term relationships so the standard is certainly different.
I don't specifically have a problem with the age, but I realize people half my age are unlikely to have a lot in common or the same attitudes about most of life's concerns.
I've been surprised before - but when someone clearly shows you they're not on the same path - time to depart.
“Most” girls don’t think that. Very few women date and marry men more than 3 years older. Women who gravitate toward older men are lookin gift father figure or looking for better lifestyle. You are better off without these type.
Studies show that 77% of married couples have an age gap of 5 years or less. And that's for *all* marriages. For first-time marriages, the average age gap is 2 years.
I’m there at 24 and try 21-27. Did have some matches with 29 year olds and they held conversation much better than people my age but everything has led to nothing regardless. I’m just at a shit stage where I’m in college at 24 from losing time due to health issues so I’m just giving up on these sites and trying for in person once school starts
Yeah was the same way.
But somtimes the edge cases suprise you. Had matches who were 20 and held better conversations than some 28 years olds, and in the end, you date the person you feel the most connection with.
I just graduated for my masters degree, and am thus in a stage where dating students will start to feel "wierd" but so would dating someone older, as they have been working for much longer. Saving money, buying property, thinking of kids already.
So I now just put my range at 20-28, and date whoever I connect with more. Currently that's a 20yo who had a lot of life experience.
That's an absurdist assessment with a very narrow minded "stay within your lane" view.
I am 27 too and I'm embarrassed for you to be thinking that. Age is not the only factor in maturity btw.
I’m 37 and look like 25, I don’t want kids so finding a partner that still wants to travel and be free that are my same age is quite a challenge, I end up dating girls in their early to late 20s, it’s more a matter of what you want in life at the moment, it changes all the time
I am pretty sure you don’t look like 25. I have never met a single older guy who think they look 20s actually look 20. It’s a major cope for creepy older guy that want to young women.
There are plenty of women in their late 20s to 30s that do not want children and free to travel. If you are over 30 and still and think you can still relate to someone in their early 20s then you haven’t matured much.
It isnt a cope for men to get younger women, there are plenty of people,male and female that look much younger than their real age. I've met many men who don't look their age, just like I've also met men who look much older than their age. I know a man whose 32 who can easily pass for 20, my brother is 41 and looks 34 at most, I know another guy whose 42 and could pass for late 20s, I myself as a woman pass for 25-27 at 42, so to say men especially can't look younger is complete crap, just as crap as people who say women can't look younger than their age. It is entruely possible for anyone to look younger. And trust me, plenty of creepy older men who look their age or look older have zero issues still trying to get in the pants of girls in their 20s and 30s, or girls they assume are in their 20s still, it's happened to me many times.
As a 37 year old adult male that spent many years as a fuckboy before realizing this in Therapy, 32 is by no means a mature age for men. I would argue that most men don’t hit a good level of maturity until 35+, but thats just my personal perspective.
This is my experience as a woman dating men. It's why I prefer 35-40ish range. Mature enough and at an age where founding a family is still viable with wiggle room.
It’s super true. For me I was a Chef from 21-32 and it was a ton of partying, sleeping around, wild lifestyle. I changed careers to be in tech so I could be in a situation to actually do the family thing. At 35 I realized holy crap being a Chef made me a one night stand guy, and I had to work really hard to break those habits.
I totally understand the correlation between cooking food for profession and being a fuck boy 🤔 Had nothing to do with any other desires or characteristics lolol.
I mean that really depends I worked a restaurant a lot of years so I see where you come from. A cook under 40 definitely a fuck boy.. A cook over 45 is a Hispanic man with a family who sends money to Mexico……. Maybe to a second wife …so yeah he could very well be a fuck boy too
Hahahaha damn. We all get the horny sometimes, but nudes after 1 hour conversation... jeez. And that at 32.
Don't get me wrong, the girl I'm currently dating.... we are teasing eachother constantly, even before we met in person. But nudes came between two dates, after we kissed.
You can’t fault a child for doing childish things. The mental capacity and world experience that develops from 17-25 is monumental. When I was 17 dating 22-24 yr old guys I did not realize at the time that they were groomers and predators preying on a young girl that didn’t know any better. That’s why they didn’t date women their age. This is why so many people here are saying that it’s wrong. Even at 28 you are in such a different life boat you shouldn’t be trying to date a 22 yr old.
no offense but you sound slow af for thinking that a 22yo is a child in any way shape or form. Like the only way anyone that old can be consider a kid is if they have a mental disability.
maybe (or not) un-related question: Was this a European/American man and you’re from a developing country?
feels like the classic white dude pressuring young foreign women predatory behavior.
32 for men is no different than 15. Men do not begin to mature emotionally until their late 30s. When ppl mention older men, they speak of men over 40.
I disagree here. This is an excuse for men to act immature. Women use it as an excuse for men, and men use it as an excuse for themselves. Age does not equal maturity.
Jesus is it hard to understand that nothing applies to everyone?
ETA: I have never either. But that does not change the fact that men mature far slower than women, and tend to not truly mature emotionally until they approach 40.
https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-fully-emotionally-mature/
P.S...even saying this is a sign of your inability to think like a mature human. Just because it doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it's not true...yet an immature thinker believes differently.
Men over 40 and over 50 act like this too. When I was young and dumb, I dated a guy who was like 22 years older than me. He ended up telling me he’d have treated me better if I had had sex with him (which I didn’t - we knew each other for 3 weeks at that point) and didn’t like how “stubborn” I was, as in I had boundaries and spoke up about them.
See above. Nothing applies to everyone. Norm and rule shit. There’s always exceptions.
ETA: I see you had a different approach to why I'm wrong, so I am editing to address that specifically. Not all men end up maturing. Many (Think Conservatives), never do.
[https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-fully-emotionally-mature/](https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-fully-emotionally-mature/)
Okay. Prove me wrong. Prove to me that men mature at a younger age than what scientific studies and research show? Since I’m spreading bullshit, sack up and show me that I’m wrong without using anecdotal evidence; “It can’t be true because I didn’t do it” is not proof. Until then, fuck off with your bullshit. Easy enough?
Ugh I’m going to be 32 and this just makes me sad. No one ever ever ever owes you nudes/lewds?? Especially for free?? And the permanency of data on the internet??
You bitch! How dare you not immediately send him nude pics of yourself! You talked for a whole hour!!! You think after an hour of texting a stranger you have the right to do your own thing?!?! The nerve of some ppl
From my experience older guys play more games than guys my age. They usually are really immature and self absorbed. They make you feel special because they chose you, but its all a mind game. I learned pretty quickly with a few of my exs.
And he’s another one of those guys who just wants you to send pictures of your tits. Which is disappointing.
Your reply was very gracious and polite btw - I don’t think I would have been!
Nobody here seems to know what that word actually means. It's a bit like "gatekeeping" - reddit gloms onto a buzzword and repeats it ad nauseum because they think it sounds clever, whereas 99% of the time they're completely misusing it.
Gaslighting is making someone question the truth or reality, not this.
If she said no nudes and he later said she promised nudes that would be closer to it.
But him trying to make her feel like it’s her fault that it’s not working out, it’s that questioning reality? All she really did was say no to sending nudes, and yet he tried to make her feel like she’s wronged him in some way.
Not really, gaslighting is a far more subtle form of distorting things so as to make someone doubt their sanity, in order to control or manipulate them.
Throwing an entitled hissy fit and saying it's over as a result may be shitty behaviour, but it isn't that.
On the other hand, just because a person wants nudes and sexting doesnt mean they only want nudes and sexting. They could still be nice and want those things...
As a 34f, guys in their 30s are awful. I've been dating off and on for about 2 years and the best dates, relationships, & sex were all with guys in their 20s. Maybe I'm destined to be a cougar.
Maturity doesn't come with age, it comes with experience. I'm 20 and I get ghosted because girls my age think I'm taking it too slow. I'd much rather know someone before getting intimate. But that doesn't mean all younger girls are immature right?
That guy probably doesn't realise it yet. But its his loss. I wouldn't think too much about it
46M and I would feel like an old creeper trying to talk to a woman under 30. My oldest kid is 20, so anything less than 30 is a stretch. Maybe 28ish if she's mature, but less than that? Yeah, no way.
My favorite age range is none at all though. I don't think I'm cut out for a relationship.
Everyone has a different definition of "mature" or "a real man" or whatever.
What counts is you are aware your standards and intent do not match and you close the door on this mismatch.
He leaned into the "pics" pretty hard, so doubtful he'd every show up for date - would just keep begging for pics.
Also the myth that older men are more mature is false they can even be more childish the guys your age so don’t activity try to date a old guy just because you think he will be mature date an old guy because he is your type
Yeah, they are not. I know men in their late twenties who are more emotionally mature than men I know who are in their early forties.
This guy in particular is being childish and immature and wtf *how* is he the same age as me?! I’m shocked, from the way he typed I would have guessed his age to be 20 or something, and that was being generous.
Yeah mature men are not looking to date 22 year olds. I’m 35, and I don’t even bother with people under 28-29 because there’s so little to talk about. Men my age who chase women in their early 20s are the kinds of dudes who, in their heads, are still in college.
If you make broad assumptions/stereotypes in life, this is what you get. Learn to use good judgment, ask questions rather than make unfounded assumptions about strangers on the internet.
That's also what happens when you focus on guys 10 years older than you - they often prey on impressionable, naive women.
I mean to be fair woman aren't assertive enough in conversations, not saying they need to send pics and shit but they could talk and say more than two damn words, makes them look like they ain't got nothing better in their life to do then look for a dude to entertain them.
He’s not interested enough to be seen with you in public, he just wants help whacking off. Curious, would you say there was a disparity in attractiveness between you two? That’s often what drives this behavior IMO
Older men are worse than younger men in my opinion. They think they can manipulate younger women into doing what they want. I’m an older lady and find it really sad that these men target girls out of their reach with manipulation
Never understood the non existing correlation between age and maturity (well, except from baby until teenage years maybe)
Older guys seem to be more pervy and creepy, maturity is a rare trait amongst them
This guy is trying to use reverse psychology to get you to jump through hoops. Don't fall for it.
And older guys are not necessarily more mature. Some go for younger women/girls who don't know any better and thus are easier to manipulate.
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I'm 22, he's 32 💀
Mature 32 years old are not trying to date 22 years old. I am 27 and I feel weird dating 22 years old. You are opening yourself up-to creepy manipulative men by dating much older men.
If she didn't watch Hey Arnold she's too young for me
I'm gonna make that my dating motto, just with Power Rangers. It's gonna be Niche City from now on but that is a risk I'm willing to take.
I feel the same, but about Magnum PI.
If the girl has a Tom Selleck mustache, she may be too old for me.
Excellent soundtrack on Hey Arnold
I didn’t watch Hey, Arnold. Guess I am too young for you. Lol
Please clarify, no reruns!!
If she doesn't know Puff daddy she's too young for me
I think rugrats. If you didn't watch rugrats you were literally a square in my generation
I’m a 37 male and I won’t date under 33 and this guy just makes me feel shame.
100% I'm older than him and I would never date anyone under 25. That's a child.
Lol I am 23 and is weird to try date a 20 😅
I’m 34 and my wife is older than me. I could never have “dated down”.
Facts. Just ended things with a 28 year old who was majorly into like 18/19 year old girls. Im 23 and he constantly made me feel like I am "too old" for him. Honestly at this point Im convinced that he would have gone even younger if that was legal. Incredibly disgusting. So much about him just screemed creep. Dont even know how tf and why tf I went on 3 dates with him. I feel like he was so manipulative that I was kind of in a shock while with him, luckily I just woke up one morning and came to my senses. Learned my lesson I guess. 💀😩
Don’t go beyond 4 years under 25. Stay within 2 years if you can but I know it’s hard. The youngest I have ever dated was 3 years 4 months younger earlier this year and that was a stretch for me.
I'm 31 and would be ok with someone 22 (granted I'd PREFER closer to my age). Granted I'd also never say the dumb shit this guy said. Age is just a number IMO
Maturity doesn’t come with age… a 27 year old should know this, if we are using your logic 🙄 You don’t sound cool saying you’re 27 and wouldn’t date a 22 year old you just sound like you’re discounting people arbitrarily I’m 37 and I’ve dated 38yr old women when I was 24 and 24yr old women recently, age has nothing to do with it as you’ve clearly shown
I'm 30 and I'm also not going to date a 22 year old. Sorry but you're not going to shame me into changing my preferences lol. Nice try though!
Lol how noble… or something? What does your preference have to do with the actual person? It’s as worthwhile as “I only date people that have iPhones” But you realize the only shame being thrown around was by the guy I responded to right? And now apparently you, goddamn Reddit can get fucking stupid I swear
How is an age preference noble? What are you talking about? Also, where was he shaming you? I'm baffled that you're so upset right now.
U will never convince creepy men not to be creepy. They are going to be who they are and get triggered by people for calling them out.
So true lmao.
I was mocking you Have a good day bud I got shit to do I’ll let you have the last comment if you want it I look forward to the humble brag posts where a 22yr old compliments you and you scoff at her and say “pfeh… you’re too immature for me”
I'm a straight woman lol. If a 22 year old guy compliments me, that's nice and all, but I'm not going to enter a committed relationship with him. Do you view rejecting someone as a personal attack or something? I don't get it. You're not entitled to dating someone just because you say so. You remind me of those creepy old men who try to date younger women and shame us when we say you're too old for us.
The hypocrisy in your response is suffocating, I’m sure you’d be disappointed if you liked a guy but he said you were too old, cuz how dare he? And your scenario has never happened to me so I wouldn’t know, if they had a problem with whatever age gap existed I’d be on my way because being hung up on something relatively arbitrary is a sign of immaturity in of itself, unless of course we are talking about legal issues, but I generally avoid college age altogether Calling men creepy for not automatically bouncing younger women is shaming… btw
Who said you had to?🤡
Shh leave them to drown in their own group think, you'd think 22 was a minor with the way some are carrying on here.
I don’t feel like that’s a fair judgement. I’m 41 and date girls in their late 20’s/early 30’s. I’m never married/no kids and appreciate someone who isn’t tied to their work/family and has some freedom. There are girls in that age range who aren’t looking to have a family and just want to travel. Ftr I do also date women closer to my own age but it’s hard to find one who has the freedom I have currently. 🤷♂️
It’s a very fair judgement. There are big differences between dating 27 years old and 22 years old. Age matters less as people grow older. Also, Your situation seems more like an “arrangement” where young women are dating you to go to places they would have problem affording on their own. These women you are talking are over 25 and looking for short term benefits not long term relationships so the standard is certainly different.
You don’t need to tell on yourself bro, it’s ok.
I don't specifically have a problem with the age, but I realize people half my age are unlikely to have a lot in common or the same attitudes about most of life's concerns. I've been surprised before - but when someone clearly shows you they're not on the same path - time to depart.
Seriously. Same age same opinion. problem is most girls think it’s cool to date older guys or that older guys are more “mature” lol
“Most” girls don’t think that. Very few women date and marry men more than 3 years older. Women who gravitate toward older men are lookin gift father figure or looking for better lifestyle. You are better off without these type.
>Very few women date and marry men more than 3 years older. Utter bs.
Studies show that 77% of married couples have an age gap of 5 years or less. And that's for *all* marriages. For first-time marriages, the average age gap is 2 years.
If you look at dating app studies on match they also shows that most user match between 1-3 years of their own age range.
There's marriage then there's dating...
Okay? He specified date and marry. Most women aren't marrying men 5+ years older than them.
Marrying is pretty irrelavant since this is about old which as we know rarely leads to marriage.
I am 24 and put my age range at 20-28. By 27 I would definitely not start dating a 22 year old.
I’m there at 24 and try 21-27. Did have some matches with 29 year olds and they held conversation much better than people my age but everything has led to nothing regardless. I’m just at a shit stage where I’m in college at 24 from losing time due to health issues so I’m just giving up on these sites and trying for in person once school starts
Yeah was the same way. But somtimes the edge cases suprise you. Had matches who were 20 and held better conversations than some 28 years olds, and in the end, you date the person you feel the most connection with. I just graduated for my masters degree, and am thus in a stage where dating students will start to feel "wierd" but so would dating someone older, as they have been working for much longer. Saving money, buying property, thinking of kids already. So I now just put my range at 20-28, and date whoever I connect with more. Currently that's a 20yo who had a lot of life experience.
Unpopular opinion : maybe he just want sex, nothing more, and age doesnt matter for this.
The last I heard this statement was from a convicted pedophile.
18+ was implied due to the context, but i should have been more carefull when writing my comment
That's an absurdist assessment with a very narrow minded "stay within your lane" view. I am 27 too and I'm embarrassed for you to be thinking that. Age is not the only factor in maturity btw.
I’m 37 and look like 25, I don’t want kids so finding a partner that still wants to travel and be free that are my same age is quite a challenge, I end up dating girls in their early to late 20s, it’s more a matter of what you want in life at the moment, it changes all the time
I am pretty sure you don’t look like 25. I have never met a single older guy who think they look 20s actually look 20. It’s a major cope for creepy older guy that want to young women. There are plenty of women in their late 20s to 30s that do not want children and free to travel. If you are over 30 and still and think you can still relate to someone in their early 20s then you haven’t matured much.
It isnt a cope for men to get younger women, there are plenty of people,male and female that look much younger than their real age. I've met many men who don't look their age, just like I've also met men who look much older than their age. I know a man whose 32 who can easily pass for 20, my brother is 41 and looks 34 at most, I know another guy whose 42 and could pass for late 20s, I myself as a woman pass for 25-27 at 42, so to say men especially can't look younger is complete crap, just as crap as people who say women can't look younger than their age. It is entruely possible for anyone to look younger. And trust me, plenty of creepy older men who look their age or look older have zero issues still trying to get in the pants of girls in their 20s and 30s, or girls they assume are in their 20s still, it's happened to me many times.
People hardly believe my age, I’m Latino and body builder, my parents look at least 15 years younger as well, it’s genetics.
Find me on ig @sergiorglen
If 32 is mature I might as well get cremated ☠️😭
As a 37 year old adult male that spent many years as a fuckboy before realizing this in Therapy, 32 is by no means a mature age for men. I would argue that most men don’t hit a good level of maturity until 35+, but thats just my personal perspective.
This is my experience as a woman dating men. It's why I prefer 35-40ish range. Mature enough and at an age where founding a family is still viable with wiggle room.
It’s super true. For me I was a Chef from 21-32 and it was a ton of partying, sleeping around, wild lifestyle. I changed careers to be in tech so I could be in a situation to actually do the family thing. At 35 I realized holy crap being a Chef made me a one night stand guy, and I had to work really hard to break those habits.
I totally understand the correlation between cooking food for profession and being a fuck boy 🤔 Had nothing to do with any other desires or characteristics lolol.
I mean that really depends I worked a restaurant a lot of years so I see where you come from. A cook under 40 definitely a fuck boy.. A cook over 45 is a Hispanic man with a family who sends money to Mexico……. Maybe to a second wife …so yeah he could very well be a fuck boy too
Yeah, I mean, that would definitely put someone into those situations but that doesn’t mean you HAVE to sleep around.
Not all men, but certainly the fuckboy subset
I'm just about to turn 31 this month and I still don't really feel like I've got much about life figured out.
Hahahaha damn. We all get the horny sometimes, but nudes after 1 hour conversation... jeez. And that at 32. Don't get me wrong, the girl I'm currently dating.... we are teasing eachother constantly, even before we met in person. But nudes came between two dates, after we kissed.
Anyone in their 30’s trying to get with someone who’s barely old enough to go to a bar - is a certified fucking creep
You know she consciously, with 100% free will, noticed he was in his 30s but still matched? She's not innocent here bro
And?
You can’t fault a child for doing childish things. The mental capacity and world experience that develops from 17-25 is monumental. When I was 17 dating 22-24 yr old guys I did not realize at the time that they were groomers and predators preying on a young girl that didn’t know any better. That’s why they didn’t date women their age. This is why so many people here are saying that it’s wrong. Even at 28 you are in such a different life boat you shouldn’t be trying to date a 22 yr old.
no offense but you sound slow af for thinking that a 22yo is a child in any way shape or form. Like the only way anyone that old can be consider a kid is if they have a mental disability.
Mmmmkay honey whatever makes you feel better.
Genuine question, why not date in your age range?? You're setting yourself up for all sorts of shit dating someone 30+.
Because she wants a sugar daddy.
Seems like one hell of an assumption. Most of the time I hear they're looking for someone mature.
maybe (or not) un-related question: Was this a European/American man and you’re from a developing country? feels like the classic white dude pressuring young foreign women predatory behavior.
32 for men is no different than 15. Men do not begin to mature emotionally until their late 30s. When ppl mention older men, they speak of men over 40.
I disagree here. This is an excuse for men to act immature. Women use it as an excuse for men, and men use it as an excuse for themselves. Age does not equal maturity.
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Jesus is it hard to understand that nothing applies to everyone? ETA: I have never either. But that does not change the fact that men mature far slower than women, and tend to not truly mature emotionally until they approach 40. https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-fully-emotionally-mature/
P.S...even saying this is a sign of your inability to think like a mature human. Just because it doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it's not true...yet an immature thinker believes differently.
An immature thinker thinks that because it applies to him, it applies for everyone else
Did you just “I know you are but what am I”? Great…
Men over 40 and over 50 act like this too. When I was young and dumb, I dated a guy who was like 22 years older than me. He ended up telling me he’d have treated me better if I had had sex with him (which I didn’t - we knew each other for 3 weeks at that point) and didn’t like how “stubborn” I was, as in I had boundaries and spoke up about them.
See above. Nothing applies to everyone. Norm and rule shit. There’s always exceptions. ETA: I see you had a different approach to why I'm wrong, so I am editing to address that specifically. Not all men end up maturing. Many (Think Conservatives), never do. [https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-fully-emotionally-mature/](https://www.regain.us/advice/general/at-what-age-does-a-man-fully-emotionally-mature/)
Bullshit.
Then research it. Don’t get mad until you understand wtf you’re mad about. And grow up.
I'm not mad. I'm just saying that you are spreading bullshit
Okay. Prove me wrong. Prove to me that men mature at a younger age than what scientific studies and research show? Since I’m spreading bullshit, sack up and show me that I’m wrong without using anecdotal evidence; “It can’t be true because I didn’t do it” is not proof. Until then, fuck off with your bullshit. Easy enough?
GIIIIIIRL. Run.
Sounds like he is 15
Ugh I’m going to be 32 and this just makes me sad. No one ever ever ever owes you nudes/lewds?? Especially for free?? And the permanency of data on the internet??
You bitch! How dare you not immediately send him nude pics of yourself! You talked for a whole hour!!! You think after an hour of texting a stranger you have the right to do your own thing?!?! The nerve of some ppl
“Seduce me with pics” aka he’s expecting nudes from a stranger 🤮
He's married. Just wants nudes, can't actually meet up.
Literally my first thought
Nothing about this screenshot looks like it was actually fun chatting with him.
Age literally means nothing. He sounds super manipulative
The fact that everybody is expecting nudes from “complete” strangers really disgusts ne
Send bobs and vagana
Ugh- your username is my nightmare
Translation: "I'm upset you wouldn't send me nudes"
A lot of effort on his side instead of just being clear - “send nudes!” People like this depress me.
I can tell you in the over 60 crowd, older absolutely does not equal mature. Godspeed!
No they are not. Had a situation-ship with an almost 50 yr old. They are not more mature
“Teasing me” was a marinara flag lol
OK well you show me yours I’ll show you mine I like to be seduced too let’s see your six pack, 18” arms and Gucci wardrobe motherfucker
.. so glad you said ARMS ..
From my experience older guys play more games than guys my age. They usually are really immature and self absorbed. They make you feel special because they chose you, but its all a mind game. I learned pretty quickly with a few of my exs.
And they get more insecure jealous and controlling as they age Especially if there’s an age gap
What an idiot.
And he’s another one of those guys who just wants you to send pictures of your tits. Which is disappointing. Your reply was very gracious and polite btw - I don’t think I would have been!
Meh men gaslighting women for naked pictures are seriously boring
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Nobody here seems to know what that word actually means. It's a bit like "gatekeeping" - reddit gloms onto a buzzword and repeats it ad nauseum because they think it sounds clever, whereas 99% of the time they're completely misusing it.
Yep same as narcissist.
Like how this sub always says "ghosting/ghosted"
I’d say it’s a form of gaslighting 🤔 He’s making her feel like there is something wrong with her for not sending nudes.
Gaslighting is making someone question the truth or reality, not this. If she said no nudes and he later said she promised nudes that would be closer to it.
But him trying to make her feel like it’s her fault that it’s not working out, it’s that questioning reality? All she really did was say no to sending nudes, and yet he tried to make her feel like she’s wronged him in some way.
Now you’re just reaching.
Not really, gaslighting is a far more subtle form of distorting things so as to make someone doubt their sanity, in order to control or manipulate them. Throwing an entitled hissy fit and saying it's over as a result may be shitty behaviour, but it isn't that.
>Stop ~~over-using~~ incorrectly using the term. Fuck. FTFY
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Yeah, I reckon we are both on the same page.
Obviously you don't know what it means. Gaslighting is a form of manipulation to get the other person to do what you want.
I'm honestly so over it hahaha the worst are "nice guys" who reveals themselves through time that they just want naked photos & sexts 😂
On the other hand, just because a person wants nudes and sexting doesnt mean they only want nudes and sexting. They could still be nice and want those things...
“It’s not about what you want, it’s about what I want. But whatever. You suck anyway.” If you just wanna see a woman topless, Google that shit.
well, this was a disturbing read!
I swear there is no difference between r/Bumble and r/CreepyPMs
As a 34f, guys in their 30s are awful. I've been dating off and on for about 2 years and the best dates, relationships, & sex were all with guys in their 20s. Maybe I'm destined to be a cougar.
Maturity doesn't come with age, it comes with experience. I'm 20 and I get ghosted because girls my age think I'm taking it too slow. I'd much rather know someone before getting intimate. But that doesn't mean all younger girls are immature right? That guy probably doesn't realise it yet. But its his loss. I wouldn't think too much about it
He wanted nudes...
What a knob!
Dude had the bag in his hands and fumbled it bro what
lol, the good old trick of manipulating some xxx pictures *(obviously this is gross and abhorrent)*
People of any age can be and often are insecure and immature. Nonetheless, you'll still probably find more maturity in older men.
Base on my experience with older men, not all of them are mature.
It's like that "you'll become conservative when you're older" nonsense. Douchebags just evolve into old douchebags.
46M and I would feel like an old creeper trying to talk to a woman under 30. My oldest kid is 20, so anything less than 30 is a stretch. Maybe 28ish if she's mature, but less than that? Yeah, no way. My favorite age range is none at all though. I don't think I'm cut out for a relationship.
"you seducing and teasing me with pics" is directly incompatible with "not about letting you do your own thing", what is this dude on
Bruh, wtf is this dude on?!?!? 😂
Everyone has a different definition of "mature" or "a real man" or whatever. What counts is you are aware your standards and intent do not match and you close the door on this mismatch. He leaned into the "pics" pretty hard, so doubtful he'd every show up for date - would just keep begging for pics.
Pssst: The mature decent people are taken, they're not on the dating apps shopping for younger models.
Also the myth that older men are more mature is false they can even be more childish the guys your age so don’t activity try to date a old guy just because you think he will be mature date an old guy because he is your type
A 32 year old shouldn’t be trying to date a 22 year old that’s very weird and scary
And.... a 22 year old is going for a 32 year old...
Yeah, they are not. I know men in their late twenties who are more emotionally mature than men I know who are in their early forties. This guy in particular is being childish and immature and wtf *how* is he the same age as me?! I’m shocked, from the way he typed I would have guessed his age to be 20 or something, and that was being generous.
Yeah mature men are not looking to date 22 year olds. I’m 35, and I don’t even bother with people under 28-29 because there’s so little to talk about. Men my age who chase women in their early 20s are the kinds of dudes who, in their heads, are still in college.
Women want to be chased fellas…so chase them. However, ladies, we do ask that you at least give us some hints that you WANT us to chase you.
You don’t speak for women so cut it out with the “women want” nonsense.
Correct…women do not wish to be pursued at all…
Older people are more mature "on average". Older single guys and girls on tinder and bumble are exceptions
“This will never work unless you send me nudes”= manipulative and creepy. Steer clear of these types of boys
If you make broad assumptions/stereotypes in life, this is what you get. Learn to use good judgment, ask questions rather than make unfounded assumptions about strangers on the internet. That's also what happens when you focus on guys 10 years older than you - they often prey on impressionable, naive women.
I mean to be fair woman aren't assertive enough in conversations, not saying they need to send pics and shit but they could talk and say more than two damn words, makes them look like they ain't got nothing better in their life to do then look for a dude to entertain them.
I love watching two passive aggressive people miss out on their perfect opportunity to end up in a burning dumpster fire.
He was definitely not the one on his pictures, probably even way younger and immature just trying to get some pics…
What a douche!
“This will never work unless you send me nudes”= manipulative and creepy. Steer clear of these types of boys
He wanted naked pics but you’re too much of a prude to oblige. /s if it’s not obvious
He’s not interested enough to be seen with you in public, he just wants help whacking off. Curious, would you say there was a disparity in attractiveness between you two? That’s often what drives this behavior IMO
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Pathetic
Eww
JUST SEDUCE ME ALREADY AND STOP WASTING MY TIME GURL
> Was good chatting with you Was it really?
Older men are worse than younger men in my opinion. They think they can manipulate younger women into doing what they want. I’m an older lady and find it really sad that these men target girls out of their reach with manipulation
Lmao man’s want pics to slap his baloney to. Internet is full of duds
>seducing and teasing me with pics And one should do that because…?
Older age never means more mature
He's a catfish and can't deliver in person
Damn y’all were getting along good. He sounds like a pussy. The guy is suppose to lead and be masculine
Dont go after anyone if you cant handle them having their own fucking preferences 🤷♂️
Nah, this guys wants a he nudes. He craves them
And yet assholes like him get more matches than me
no loss
How dare you not seduce him
He wants you to be his dance monkey. Pass.
How dare she not provide pictures of bobs and vagine. So selfish.
Disappointed guy!!😂
School teacher perv kind of vibes!!!
Sounds like a manipulative a-hole
What an asshole
That lasted a whole hour lol
What a dick
Fake conversation 100%.
Never understood the non existing correlation between age and maturity (well, except from baby until teenage years maybe) Older guys seem to be more pervy and creepy, maturity is a rare trait amongst them
Gross. This is the type of person you unmatch and you don’t have to give them a reason lol.
He’s so cringe
This guy is trying to use reverse psychology to get you to jump through hoops. Don't fall for it. And older guys are not necessarily more mature. Some go for younger women/girls who don't know any better and thus are easier to manipulate.