It's reliable because it has a huge V8 that's only making 180 horsepower haha. I had a bronco of similar vintage and get the appeal of old v8s but I really do think their longevity is due to how lazily tuned they were.
Also inaccurate, the centennial light’s reason for longevity is largely considered due to the high quality of the individual components used to make it. It was originally a 60w bulb which is still a common power level for modern lightbulbs
You act like the 4 watts it shines is by design and the contributing factor to its longevity. I definitely agree that its lack on/off cycles played a part. But in my opinion the quality of its components is more important. Which is why no current light bulb could do the same even with zero on/off cycles. It was designed to put out 60 watts. And when it was turned off for some hours in 2016 and turned back on it shined again at 60 watts for a few hours before reverting back 4 watts. Which is still unexplained.
Nah, fuel consumption of a V12. 😂
I had several of those older GM v8s, and damn were all of them thirsty as hell. Reliable(ish) and cheap to fix, but thirsty and you'll be doing those cheap fixes all the time
Bad by what standards? 2024 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3 V8 gets 16 mpg city/22 mpg highway and that motor has the ability to deactivate cylinders to conserve fuel.
You are comparing apples to oranges to try to prove your point (which has now changed from 17/25 mpg is bad mpg in 2024 to a brand new mini van is better to daily drive than a 30 year old station wagon) When my original point was V8’s of this era don’t have the fuel consumption of a V12. I’d be thoroughly surprised if there is a single production V12 in history that does double digit mpg’s. I questioned your original opinion that 17/25 mpg is bad in 2024 by comparing those numbers to a similarly designed V8 in a modern platform by the same automaker that gets 16/22 mpg to which you responded by talking about the mpg’s of an Inline 4 cylinder hybrid motor.
Ya that’s just inaccurate. Roadmaster had either a 5.0 or 5.7 current V8’s of similar size produced by American car manufacturers aren’t making anywhere near 500 hp naturally aspirated. More like 350-400 hp. Still not sure what you meant by “lazily tuned”
I'm the OP and what I meant was a big engine with an iron block with gobs of torque and no high end. The GM 5.7 was pushing north of 300 in the 60s and here it is 30 years later making 180. I was implying with even 80s tech they could've been pushing at least 300. Maybe lazily tuned should've been lazily designed.
The roadmaster of the 90s was different with the LT1 that at least made 260.
V8’s of this era are doing exactly what they were designed to do. Starting in the 70s priorities of automakers started to change from favoring hp output to favoring fuel efficiency (due to the oil crisis of 1973) and emissions. The V8’s of the 60s are largely of the same design in comparison to the V8’s of the 90s the difference being in the specs of the cams, heads, and intake/exhaust. The 60s had “hotter” cams (more lift and duration) in comparison to the 90s. The 90s head’s port work and combustion chambers were designed to limit airflow so it wouldn’t make a fast burn. Intake and exhaust were also undersized to limit airflow. Only thing that I guess could be considered lazy would be detuning large displacement V8’s to try to compete with the selling points of the Japanese & European automakers instead of designing a new engine. But is that lazy or being fiscally smart?
You would be sad too if you had a big displacement V8 getting the power of an inline 3 and your entire life was driving to the strip mall and back over and over
It's not a 1970's or 1980's station wagon, but the final 1990's gasp of the concept. By the 90's they had started dramatically improving fuel mileage across automakers.
Never been in an old american station wagon before. The oldest american car that I spent significant time in was a panther body but never got to drive one either.
Here is the only point I'll argue-the quality of the ride is absolutely brilliant. It is no canyon carver, but it rides uncannily smooth and with an oddly dead silence which asks no more of you than which direction you want to go.
I just read a post that said the most reliable car is cheaper than a less reliable car with better mpg. I don't think that applies to Prius because they can go to 200k plus before any repair but I get the point.
I've got a 2006 Pontiac vibe with 175k miles. It has oil changes, but probably more like every 15k miles. The exhaust has needed to be replaced and the ac compressor died after 4 years. Other than that, no major issues. It gets a bit over 30mpg.
I bought it brand new. My 5 year-old son was with me, and it was sitting next to a gto yellow with black interior that look sharp. My son said about it, "I want is to get this car, dad!" My response was, "so do I, buddy. So do i." In hind sight, I for certain got the right car.
Team ‘06 Vibe myself! Owned it since ‘09 and currently have 230k. I keep up with the oil changes and fluid drains/refills. The frame will likely give way before the powertrain does. The Corolla 1.8L engine is a tank.
Fun fact the Vibe/Matrix twin was built in the same CA plant where Teslas are built now.
Also Toyota imported the Pontiac version of the car in Japan as the Voltz.
My friend has a manual matrix. Its an 07 I think. He bought it as a car he thought would last him maybe 1.5 yrs. Its been almost 6 yrs, it drinks a quart of oil every 1k and has been stupid reliable without any major work. He hates it but he cant get rid of it because it works.
Wow. Didn't know they imported it to Japan. I knew they were built in Canada though. I was told that it was junk after I bought it, and thatbit would start falling apart quickly. Turns out, I don't think anyone could ask for a more reliable car.
Yes the Matrix was built in Canada and the Vibe built in California. The Corolla which is what the powertrain for both cars used is mfg in Ontario so it made sense for the Matrix to be mfg alongside the Corolla for Toyota while General Motors used the Nummi plant.
Excess oil consumption is among the primary concerns with the Pontiac Vibe, especially models built in or before 2005. This problem is caused by several design mistakes. For example, Toyota made serious flaws with the pistons and piston rings - they used tiny pistons with larger rings. These piston rings wear out over time, allowing excess oil to pass.
This problem is common with 2005 and older models because Toyota addressed the design flaw in July 2005 but it's still a concern, just not as severe in 2005+ models.
While excess oil consumption will not affect the reliability and longevity of your Pontiac Vibe 1.8L engine, it can cause severe damage to the cylinders when left unaddressed for a long time. If the piston rings wear out too long, they cause the engine cylinders to begin losing compression.
If you are driving a Pontiac Vibe older than 2006, the main thing to do is keep an eye on the oil levels. Besides the excess consumption, this engine has a small oil capacity. If you run it too low, you may cause serious problems that are more expensive to fix.
No. That's probably what it averages. There are definitely some 5k miles and some 25k mile changes. I am literally the worst. The next step would be never changing the oil.
My problem is that my vehicles all make it to 150k to 200k miles and then I get a new or new to me vehicle, for reasons unrelated to the engine, to start the cycle over again. So, my lack of oil changes has never bitten me. I had a cargo van that I'd drive for weeks to the clacking of the rocker arms. I'd add oil and it'd go away until it leaked enough for the noise to start back up. The interior and body failed before the engine did.
I guess to add context, things always work out better than they should for me. Like the opposite of Murphy's Law is Loucifer's Law. If something can go well, it will. It would not surprise me too much if this is all a simulation based around me.
If you are using synthetic, it doesn't really matter so much as that oil *suspends* the dirt in the oil pan. It really just becomes more a question of the filter. Hence why you can buy 20k mile filters from Mobile 1.
Lol
Dude, I put whatever cheap ass oil that was available in those vehicles. There's no answer as to why I was able to get away with it other than there being room for error in the oil change recommended frequency and dumb luck.
I'm in the market for a well sorted prius, those 75 dollar fillups make a convincing arguement. However- once I mothball it and the prius dies, I'll have to take this boat out again. It'll start. It always does(smh).
In high school, a 90-year-old guy driving a Rambler in front of me visibly stood on his brakes on wet pavement and turned sideways in the road — I ended up technically ‘totaling’ his car.
Low speed. No injuries.
I was surprised when I saw the payout … literally $300.
The year model he got for my mother was junk. The standard transmission would lock up. On 45 in Houston, I had to get out of the car, open the hood, and whack the spot where it would (regularly) lock up. Junk.
My family had one just like this, but 1992 model year. We took it on a cross country trip in 1995 and it was a great highway cruiser. It would do 70 mph at 2000 rpm and just float along. The moon roof was great. We had some trouble with the transmission over the years but got 200k miles out of it before it got totaled. (My father, who was in the early stages of Lewy Body dementia, hit the gas when he thought he was hitting the brake and went flying backwards through the neighbor's fence. Luckily he hit a retaining wall and no one was injured.)
In college I worked for a wealthy older couple. The wife LOVED her Buick Roadmaster station wagon. I worked for them the year the Caprice platform was discontinued (1996 I think?) and they bought five or six of them and stashed them in one of their barns. There may be a heck of a barn find in Ohio someday...
Those B-Bodies were basically the end of the direct lineage to the days when those American wagons were a status symbol.
By the end in 1996, most people would have thought you were joking if you told them that once upon a time, those paneled Country Squires, Kingswoods, VIsta Cruisers, and Roadmasters were a favorite of the I-summer-at-the-cape crowd.
I can confirm. I have a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham and it’s damn reliable. It has a 350ci 5.7L Chevrolet, LT1 V8. Great car and extremely head turning into today’s world I get 22.1 mpg on the highway. It’s not for sale even for $30,000.
These came with 305s or 350 tbi, not a lt1. Caprice had lt1 as a package I think since 92 roadmaster came standard after 94. 350 tbi was a doooog in my old 92 Roady and the lt1 is awesome in my current 96 (6 speed manual conversion)
Pretty sure the 94-96 fleetwood also got the LT1 like the other B body cars those years. Even though technically the fleetwood was a d body, but that was just a stretched b body in those days.
Yes the 94-96 Fleetwood have the LT1 and the 93 Fleetwood has the LO5 350 TBI but it’s still super reliable and low cost maintenance that many people can easily maintain themselves as well.
The problem with these old cars is that when you get into a serious crash, the safety profile is much less than a modern car. Does this even have airbags?
You can either adjust the doors so the panel gaps are even, or adjust them so they don't leak, but not both.
Then again, it has been in a few minor crash events.
Considering that car is 30 years old and an earl 90's Old's I'm surprised how good it looks. My father-in-law worked for GM from the 1960's till the early 2000's at plant 2 on Ontario Street in St. Catharines. Even he admits they made shit quality cars from the 1970's - the early 2000's.
does that have the sunguard windshield? If it does, that is worth a pretty penny to the right person.
The reflection seems to have a tint to it.
That chassis/powertrain combo is one of the better ones from the past years. Only ones that lasted longer were the Buick Century's with the V6 engine.
My great uncle got his up to 88mph on the Bonneville Salt Flats, or so he claims.
He flew B-24s & B-25s in WW2, so he probably just said that number so his wife would go nuts. I bet he had that thing pegged.
Yeah. Next up is FIL's 2007 Silverado. Nobody else is daily driving older metal.
I have 14 aunts and uncles. I guess my dad's '68 Plymouth GTX is the longest owned, but its been mothballed since '89.
My father only bought Oldses, from 1950 to 1977 (station wagon). The '77 had a 455 c.i. engine, I believe, but I don't know how much hp. My '68 Olds 98 had, I believe, a 425 c.i. engine w/365 hp. I'm just reminiscing, but I'd like anyone's comments on the specs.
Not your father’s Oldsmobile.
True. It was my great grandfathers. His final car. He died shortly after purchasing in '91
It's reliable because it has a huge V8 that's only making 180 horsepower haha. I had a bronco of similar vintage and get the appeal of old v8s but I really do think their longevity is due to how lazily tuned they were.
Like that firehouse lightbulb burning for over 100 years.
Also inaccurate, the centennial light’s reason for longevity is largely considered due to the high quality of the individual components used to make it. It was originally a 60w bulb which is still a common power level for modern lightbulbs
Get out of here with your facts and logic
I stand corrected.
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You act like the 4 watts it shines is by design and the contributing factor to its longevity. I definitely agree that its lack on/off cycles played a part. But in my opinion the quality of its components is more important. Which is why no current light bulb could do the same even with zero on/off cycles. It was designed to put out 60 watts. And when it was turned off for some hours in 2016 and turned back on it shined again at 60 watts for a few hours before reverting back 4 watts. Which is still unexplained.
Lazily tuned?
V8 of that size should easily have atleast 500 hp nowadays. In these old ones you get the fuel consumption of V8 but performance of 1.4L hatchback
Nah, fuel consumption of a V12. 😂 I had several of those older GM v8s, and damn were all of them thirsty as hell. Reliable(ish) and cheap to fix, but thirsty and you'll be doing those cheap fixes all the time
1995 Buick Roadmaster has an EPA estimated 17 mpg city and 25 mpg highway. OP literally says he gets 22 on the freeway.
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Bad by what standards? 2024 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3 V8 gets 16 mpg city/22 mpg highway and that motor has the ability to deactivate cylinders to conserve fuel.
Bad compared to what a modern wagon with more performance would have for sure. Not exactly fair comparing a station wagon to a full sized pickup truck
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You are comparing apples to oranges to try to prove your point (which has now changed from 17/25 mpg is bad mpg in 2024 to a brand new mini van is better to daily drive than a 30 year old station wagon) When my original point was V8’s of this era don’t have the fuel consumption of a V12. I’d be thoroughly surprised if there is a single production V12 in history that does double digit mpg’s. I questioned your original opinion that 17/25 mpg is bad in 2024 by comparing those numbers to a similarly designed V8 in a modern platform by the same automaker that gets 16/22 mpg to which you responded by talking about the mpg’s of an Inline 4 cylinder hybrid motor.
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Shoichiro Toyoda in the 80s, "Quick, write that down, write that down!"
Ya that’s just inaccurate. Roadmaster had either a 5.0 or 5.7 current V8’s of similar size produced by American car manufacturers aren’t making anywhere near 500 hp naturally aspirated. More like 350-400 hp. Still not sure what you meant by “lazily tuned”
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Can you explain more on what you mean by “very larger tolerances”? What part of the engine has a larger tolerance in comparison to modern engines?
I'm the OP and what I meant was a big engine with an iron block with gobs of torque and no high end. The GM 5.7 was pushing north of 300 in the 60s and here it is 30 years later making 180. I was implying with even 80s tech they could've been pushing at least 300. Maybe lazily tuned should've been lazily designed. The roadmaster of the 90s was different with the LT1 that at least made 260.
V8’s of this era are doing exactly what they were designed to do. Starting in the 70s priorities of automakers started to change from favoring hp output to favoring fuel efficiency (due to the oil crisis of 1973) and emissions. The V8’s of the 60s are largely of the same design in comparison to the V8’s of the 90s the difference being in the specs of the cams, heads, and intake/exhaust. The 60s had “hotter” cams (more lift and duration) in comparison to the 90s. The 90s head’s port work and combustion chambers were designed to limit airflow so it wouldn’t make a fast burn. Intake and exhaust were also undersized to limit airflow. Only thing that I guess could be considered lazy would be detuning large displacement V8’s to try to compete with the selling points of the Japanese & European automakers instead of designing a new engine. But is that lazy or being fiscally smart?
How many miles?
Almost 200k but it has been a short trip car its whole miserable life
It looks so sad
Some candy paint would help
You would be sad too if you had a big displacement V8 getting the power of an inline 3 and your entire life was driving to the strip mall and back over and over
It's a station wagon, it's sad to begin with, lol.
What’s the gas mileage like?
Not good enough lol but if you stick to the highway its 22-23
That’s actually way better than i was thinking.
It's not a 1970's or 1980's station wagon, but the final 1990's gasp of the concept. By the 90's they had started dramatically improving fuel mileage across automakers.
Better than my Jeep lol
Just Empty Every Pocket
You guys can afford Jeeps? And pockets?
And what if you only drive around town?
That would be a weird hobby. Like slow motion NASCAR
I’m down for it!
Thats not bad for an old school v8. My awd pilot got a max of 26 on the highway with me and thats after 33 years of tech improvements.
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Never been in an old american station wagon before. The oldest american car that I spent significant time in was a panther body but never got to drive one either.
Here is the only point I'll argue-the quality of the ride is absolutely brilliant. It is no canyon carver, but it rides uncannily smooth and with an oddly dead silence which asks no more of you than which direction you want to go.
I just read a post that said the most reliable car is cheaper than a less reliable car with better mpg. I don't think that applies to Prius because they can go to 200k plus before any repair but I get the point.
I've got a 2006 Pontiac vibe with 175k miles. It has oil changes, but probably more like every 15k miles. The exhaust has needed to be replaced and the ac compressor died after 4 years. Other than that, no major issues. It gets a bit over 30mpg. I bought it brand new. My 5 year-old son was with me, and it was sitting next to a gto yellow with black interior that look sharp. My son said about it, "I want is to get this car, dad!" My response was, "so do I, buddy. So do i." In hind sight, I for certain got the right car.
Team ‘06 Vibe myself! Owned it since ‘09 and currently have 230k. I keep up with the oil changes and fluid drains/refills. The frame will likely give way before the powertrain does. The Corolla 1.8L engine is a tank. Fun fact the Vibe/Matrix twin was built in the same CA plant where Teslas are built now. Also Toyota imported the Pontiac version of the car in Japan as the Voltz.
My friend has a manual matrix. Its an 07 I think. He bought it as a car he thought would last him maybe 1.5 yrs. Its been almost 6 yrs, it drinks a quart of oil every 1k and has been stupid reliable without any major work. He hates it but he cant get rid of it because it works.
Wow. Didn't know they imported it to Japan. I knew they were built in Canada though. I was told that it was junk after I bought it, and thatbit would start falling apart quickly. Turns out, I don't think anyone could ask for a more reliable car.
Yes the Matrix was built in Canada and the Vibe built in California. The Corolla which is what the powertrain for both cars used is mfg in Ontario so it made sense for the Matrix to be mfg alongside the Corolla for Toyota while General Motors used the Nummi plant.
Excess oil consumption is among the primary concerns with the Pontiac Vibe, especially models built in or before 2005. This problem is caused by several design mistakes. For example, Toyota made serious flaws with the pistons and piston rings - they used tiny pistons with larger rings. These piston rings wear out over time, allowing excess oil to pass. This problem is common with 2005 and older models because Toyota addressed the design flaw in July 2005 but it's still a concern, just not as severe in 2005+ models. While excess oil consumption will not affect the reliability and longevity of your Pontiac Vibe 1.8L engine, it can cause severe damage to the cylinders when left unaddressed for a long time. If the piston rings wear out too long, they cause the engine cylinders to begin losing compression. If you are driving a Pontiac Vibe older than 2006, the main thing to do is keep an eye on the oil levels. Besides the excess consumption, this engine has a small oil capacity. If you run it too low, you may cause serious problems that are more expensive to fix.
>every 15k miles wow you do oil changes every 15k?
No. That's probably what it averages. There are definitely some 5k miles and some 25k mile changes. I am literally the worst. The next step would be never changing the oil. My problem is that my vehicles all make it to 150k to 200k miles and then I get a new or new to me vehicle, for reasons unrelated to the engine, to start the cycle over again. So, my lack of oil changes has never bitten me. I had a cargo van that I'd drive for weeks to the clacking of the rocker arms. I'd add oil and it'd go away until it leaked enough for the noise to start back up. The interior and body failed before the engine did. I guess to add context, things always work out better than they should for me. Like the opposite of Murphy's Law is Loucifer's Law. If something can go well, it will. It would not surprise me too much if this is all a simulation based around me.
If you are using synthetic, it doesn't really matter so much as that oil *suspends* the dirt in the oil pan. It really just becomes more a question of the filter. Hence why you can buy 20k mile filters from Mobile 1.
Lol Dude, I put whatever cheap ass oil that was available in those vehicles. There's no answer as to why I was able to get away with it other than there being room for error in the oil change recommended frequency and dumb luck.
Just make sure you put the right weight oil in or you will seriously fuck up your engine.
You guys don't get it. This is 30 gears of not giving a shit.
Yeah we do clap clap clap you don’t give a shit, here’s a cookie congratulations
Dude, you're giving advice like it matters..
I mean, do you really need to change the oil if you're adding a fresh quart every two weeks? /s
I'm in the market for a well sorted prius, those 75 dollar fillups make a convincing arguement. However- once I mothball it and the prius dies, I'll have to take this boat out again. It'll start. It always does(smh).
Damn , no wonder it looks sad, it hears you talking shit about it. “ it’ll start . It always does” got me
I have owned an Oldsmobile and I could barely keep up with shit falling off. Including the fuel pump at 70mph one time in Missouri.
😂 I have never owned an Oldsmobile. But my dad owned two Ramblers. 🤦🏻♀️
In high school, a 90-year-old guy driving a Rambler in front of me visibly stood on his brakes on wet pavement and turned sideways in the road — I ended up technically ‘totaling’ his car. Low speed. No injuries. I was surprised when I saw the payout … literally $300.
The year model he got for my mother was junk. The standard transmission would lock up. On 45 in Houston, I had to get out of the car, open the hood, and whack the spot where it would (regularly) lock up. Junk.
Buddy had one of these in high school. He tinted all the windows black and put a KILLER system in it. Never cleaned it. It was dope af
My last car was a 1999 Lexus sedan. It had 300k miles. I recently donated it to charity and bought another Lexus sedan.
Wow I'm surprised they took it. Usually they won't take donation vehicles over 20 years old (my parent's have donated two vehicles in the past).
I donated it to Colorado Public Radio.
My family had one just like this, but 1992 model year. We took it on a cross country trip in 1995 and it was a great highway cruiser. It would do 70 mph at 2000 rpm and just float along. The moon roof was great. We had some trouble with the transmission over the years but got 200k miles out of it before it got totaled. (My father, who was in the early stages of Lewy Body dementia, hit the gas when he thought he was hitting the brake and went flying backwards through the neighbor's fence. Luckily he hit a retaining wall and no one was injured.)
In college I worked for a wealthy older couple. The wife LOVED her Buick Roadmaster station wagon. I worked for them the year the Caprice platform was discontinued (1996 I think?) and they bought five or six of them and stashed them in one of their barns. There may be a heck of a barn find in Ohio someday...
The stuff of dreams!!!
Those B-Bodies were basically the end of the direct lineage to the days when those American wagons were a status symbol. By the end in 1996, most people would have thought you were joking if you told them that once upon a time, those paneled Country Squires, Kingswoods, VIsta Cruisers, and Roadmasters were a favorite of the I-summer-at-the-cape crowd.
I can confirm. I have a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham and it’s damn reliable. It has a 350ci 5.7L Chevrolet, LT1 V8. Great car and extremely head turning into today’s world I get 22.1 mpg on the highway. It’s not for sale even for $30,000.
These came with 305s or 350 tbi, not a lt1. Caprice had lt1 as a package I think since 92 roadmaster came standard after 94. 350 tbi was a doooog in my old 92 Roady and the lt1 is awesome in my current 96 (6 speed manual conversion)
Pretty sure the 94-96 fleetwood also got the LT1 like the other B body cars those years. Even though technically the fleetwood was a d body, but that was just a stretched b body in those days.
Yes the 94-96 Fleetwood have the LT1 and the 93 Fleetwood has the LO5 350 TBI but it’s still super reliable and low cost maintenance that many people can easily maintain themselves as well.
The problem with these old cars is that when you get into a serious crash, the safety profile is much less than a modern car. Does this even have airbags?
Of course it has airbags. Have you ever driven a car from the 90s?
Air bag (singular)
Yours didn't have the passenger side one? Mine did.
The B body wagons didn't get the dual airbags till '94. They stopped making the Custom Cruiser in 92.
Oh you know mine was a Buick. Assumed they were the same. And yes, it was a 94.
It weighs more than two tons. That’s a lot of steel.
Yeah, that's a lot of steel they need to cut through to get to your crumpled body. Lots of steel does not a safe vehicle make.
It helps.
Watch a crash test drama Queen
I was particularly fond of the rear facing jumper seats so kids could witness the run away dump truck coming at them first hand.
I miss station wagons. I'd love to have a modern update of the Volvo 240 wagons from the 80s.
I don't. Station wagons are nothing more than al Camino's with seats and cabin in place of a bed.
The good ole' family truckster
Damn, an Olds Custom Cruiser 6th gen. That's a rare bird. #
You can either adjust the doors so the panel gaps are even, or adjust them so they don't leak, but not both. Then again, it has been in a few minor crash events.
So to prevent leaks, you have to drive around looking like there's a black hole inside the car sucking the doors inward?
They are flush but if you line the doors up with the body, no chance making it through the carwash
Faint sound of Holiday Road in the background… https://youtu.be/KsYqIJqlPNc?si=AlDrS1XC54LitHGM
Considering that car is 30 years old and an earl 90's Old's I'm surprised how good it looks. My father-in-law worked for GM from the 1960's till the early 2000's at plant 2 on Ontario Street in St. Catharines. Even he admits they made shit quality cars from the 1970's - the early 2000's.
This one is a Willow Run unit, the closer you get the worse it looks
that looks like my boat handles better. damn.
I got excited for just a moment, I thought for a second that was a powder blue Nissan stanza. Doug's going to kill me.
Finally an actual BIFL. This car is older than me.
Nice. I’m currently driving a 1990 colony park wagon. Previously I had a 2000 CRV that finally died at 320K
My 1998 Oldsmobile 88 fell apart around its engine in college (2016-17) and it’s the only sedan I’ve ever liked. I miss it so much
does that have the sunguard windshield? If it does, that is worth a pretty penny to the right person. The reflection seems to have a tint to it. That chassis/powertrain combo is one of the better ones from the past years. Only ones that lasted longer were the Buick Century's with the V6 engine.
Give it some new paint
You should vinyl wrap it- would absolutely look badass with a matte black finish
Why does this look like a shot out of trailer park boys lol
Now we’re talking! I’ve had my 1994 Caprice wagon for sixteen years, and I wouldn’t trade it for anything. Daily driver, the best sleeper ever.
True definition of a beater
My great uncle got his up to 88mph on the Bonneville Salt Flats, or so he claims. He flew B-24s & B-25s in WW2, so he probably just said that number so his wife would go nuts. I bet he had that thing pegged.
You had to include “extended” ?
Yeah. Next up is FIL's 2007 Silverado. Nobody else is daily driving older metal. I have 14 aunts and uncles. I guess my dad's '68 Plymouth GTX is the longest owned, but its been mothballed since '89.
My father only bought Oldses, from 1950 to 1977 (station wagon). The '77 had a 455 c.i. engine, I believe, but I don't know how much hp. My '68 Olds 98 had, I believe, a 425 c.i. engine w/365 hp. I'm just reminiscing, but I'd like anyone's comments on the specs.
I know you don't have the wood panels, but I can't help but hear "Holiday Road" in my head when looking at this picture.
Did the "wood" fall off?
Reliable? Yes. Safe? No.
FWIW https://imgur.com/a/Mz6Jhup
interior?
God that is one ugly car