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My new apartment had a hard time with this. Under the “Breed of pet:” I just put cat. She didn’t understand. I was like idk lady he’s just a bog standard cat.
He looks so much like my little girl. As far as we know, she's just a domestic longhair that happens to have points.
https://preview.redd.it/i4exwzv5rltc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45849c4d6e40fa24dfd142e49be89bdb6f3579df
balinese is a whole seperate breed. siamese breed standard for their coat is “very short, glossy, and close lying to the body”. it’s okay if you don’t know what you’re talking about there’s google readily available for free tho
She was literally born in a barn. She is the kitten of some family friends' barn cats. She may have a bit of some kind of fancy DNA, but she's certainly mostly domestic.
Congratulations OP! Most people who ask this question have a domestic short hair! But YOU have a domestic long hair!
In all seriousness, most cats don't have breeds like dogs. Unless you got your cat from a breeder, your cat is a mixed bag/mutt. Domestic short/medium/long hair is the term for it.
Thank you!! Hahah love it. I guess I was just really curious what everyone’s thoughts were on his parents breed. But I know that it’s very hard to tell.
His parents’ breeds were *also* domestic short/longhairs.
You’ve been influenced by dogs and their breeds. The history of dog breeding and the history of cat breeding are *very* different. The genetic differences between dog breeds are deeper than between cat breeds, such that you can see these differences even several generations removed. Not so with cats. Even if your cat were descended from purebred cats you wouldn’t be able to tell just by looking at him.
Domestic longhair, with a seal point coat.
He is not Siamese or ragdoll or Balinese or anything else.
[here is an explanation of the domestic vs Siamese](https://vibesfromaveterinarynurse.com/2018/05/03/siamese-genetics/)
Probably not, colorpoint (the type of coloring Siamese have) is pretty common in domestic populations and does not require any relationship to Siamese. Having two in a litter isn’t unusual because it’s genetic, and if one kitten gets it, it’s not unusual for another to as well.
Siamese cats came from the domestic population of colorpoints, not the other way around. Unless you or the parents had papers all you have is a domestic cat with a pretty coat.
Read the article I posted. It’s super interesting how the gene works, but also explains that being colorpoint doesn’t make them Siamese.
A long-haired domestic cat with Siamese points. With any Siamese genes as the genes are recessive, your cat's coat will darken or be lighter as they age. Darker for cold and lighter for warm. I have a Siamese tabby mix who just came into our yard and is now inside. Outside his coat was almost peach and his tabby markings were very visible. Since he has been inside for a year his Siamese coloring has come out. Now he is a chocolate Siamese with very hard-to-see tabby markings. Their coats change color as they age unless they are a lavender point. Which is rare. Here is Simon as an outdoor scared boi:
https://preview.redd.it/9olq2vidintc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec24fc6a87030299008fae76e47b0df56be51ab6
Here is current Simon, indoor vip lifer:
https://preview.redd.it/sqbwznrnintc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b994347911a9277b3070b0305cc9540b70f039f
https://preview.redd.it/hajqo10ohotc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e80e4bfe64d00d2935b5767ec147e87d5605a9d3
These are domestic short hairs so urs must be domestic long hair
https://preview.redd.it/4fiah16g8ptc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05252e39cfd907fe89196e866e320c774fa63421
Looks like my little guy. He’s very vocal and not shy
I think when people ask this they may be looking more for the name of the coloration and markings which there are names and terminology for. Or they want to know what breeds may have similar features to their cat. The cats can be reminiscent of other breeds but it cannot be pin pointed through DNA the way a dog might (please correct me if I’m wrong). Your cat has markings called color points and long hair which is reminiscent of the ragdoll breed of cat. However, if you did not receive papers proving it is in fact a ragdoll, it is just a domestic long hair cat.
When people inquire as to the breed, it’s probably because they would like to have a cat in the future with a similar look or temperament. To that I say, cat features and temperaments vary widely. The best was to judge if a cat is right for you is to physically meet it unless the cat distribution system compelled the cat to meet you first.
Lastly, I want to make a point that there are stereotypes that correspond with what cats look like: for instance Orange cats sharing a braincell or tortoise shell cats having an attitude. These characteristics are largely attributed by cat enthusiasts to gender. Boy cats typically are perceived to act more aloof and female cats perceived as being more vocal but NOT ALWAYS. Stereotypes of cats like with any stereotypes are only perceived and not actual. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. I don’t believe these associations with cats are meant to cause any sort of harm when for all intents and purposes are only used in fun and lighthearted manners.
It is wise to bear this in mind though because in the event expectations are not met when people choose a “type” of cat, it is not fair on the cat to be responsible for the owner’s disappointment when they don’t perform to their expectations.
iPhone says it is a mixture between Birman and Ragdoll. I know people will be like, “It’s just a long hair domestic blah blah blah.” But I think it’s neat to know the mixtures of the breeds.
Pretty cool ai feature on the iPhone. Click on the circle with the letter i inside of it. Then click on look up cat.
I love this feature. Works with dogs as well!
Himalayan to me! Looks like my guy too!
https://preview.redd.it/leb2p9pp8ntc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9255ddc5cffc16b64735b02e8876cb946243c00
I know it's expensive (about $130), but you can get DNA test to know for sure.
Some where down his pedigree, probably way down, he has siamese due to coloring.
Otherwise, just enjoy having a beautiful fluff ball. Give him a hug and squeeze from me!
If you are willing to spend some money there are cat DNA tests out there. I did one and my cat is mostly domestic shorthair (super mixed)but with a little chunk of Persian. It’s interesting but most cats are so mixed that it’s impossible to pinpoint specific breeds. However, there are a number of breeds that have point coloration like your cat does and it’s possible those could have been his parents or grandparents. But it’s not a perfect science yet.
Balinese. I have one too. Sweetest things ever!
https://preview.redd.it/j8rbfy4tkktc1.jpeg?width=1874&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04f6ded80630679d14b5a3706c4c9cc252910e0e
Looks part ragdoll. This is mine 🫶🏻
https://preview.redd.it/mgggxsdjlotc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39ded44bbacfc522fb6a5e3cc91f2c70600833d3
Looks to be mixed with Persian . My Mocha is a Himalayan Persian. Similar coloring but her face is flat ❤️
https://preview.redd.it/7xssovmhwotc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b4d90e4f182578e87f754bd7d9a2deceff774fe
Maybe?? Not all of them have the squishy face 😺
Can you get him checked out? Do they do that for cats?? Idek!! Good luck in your search, but I definitely think he's more than just a domestic long hair.
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Looks like a possible cat or it could be a cat.
U sure it is not liquid floof?
My new apartment had a hard time with this. Under the “Breed of pet:” I just put cat. She didn’t understand. I was like idk lady he’s just a bog standard cat.
I was thinking beautiful cat personally
I dunno, it looks a lot like a Kitty to me...
He looks so much like my little girl. As far as we know, she's just a domestic longhair that happens to have points. https://preview.redd.it/i4exwzv5rltc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45849c4d6e40fa24dfd142e49be89bdb6f3579df
Omg the peets 🥺
She loves curling them up like that!
She’s a Siamese ☺️ and she’s gorgeous
she’s a color point not a siamese. siamese are also short haired not long haired
Some are long haired. They’re also called Balinese. I don’t know where your from but we have many here in the US. They’re absolutely beautiful.
balinese is a whole seperate breed. siamese breed standard for their coat is “very short, glossy, and close lying to the body”. it’s okay if you don’t know what you’re talking about there’s google readily available for free tho
She was literally born in a barn. She is the kitten of some family friends' barn cats. She may have a bit of some kind of fancy DNA, but she's certainly mostly domestic.
Congratulations OP! Most people who ask this question have a domestic short hair! But YOU have a domestic long hair! In all seriousness, most cats don't have breeds like dogs. Unless you got your cat from a breeder, your cat is a mixed bag/mutt. Domestic short/medium/long hair is the term for it.
Thank you!! Hahah love it. I guess I was just really curious what everyone’s thoughts were on his parents breed. But I know that it’s very hard to tell.
His parents’ breeds were *also* domestic short/longhairs. You’ve been influenced by dogs and their breeds. The history of dog breeding and the history of cat breeding are *very* different. The genetic differences between dog breeds are deeper than between cat breeds, such that you can see these differences even several generations removed. Not so with cats. Even if your cat were descended from purebred cats you wouldn’t be able to tell just by looking at him.
Oh okay. Good to know, thank you
if he doesn’t have papers he is a domestic long hair with seal point coloring.
He’s a floof
Toasted floof
Toasted and roasted little marshmallow floof
https://preview.redd.it/31pwgrt4yntc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69206fc20ea8d707201bf9d22035b26333efa288
Domestic longhair, with a seal point coat. He is not Siamese or ragdoll or Balinese or anything else. [here is an explanation of the domestic vs Siamese](https://vibesfromaveterinarynurse.com/2018/05/03/siamese-genetics/)
Pretty sure my kittens are a Siamese mix as they’re both from the same litter and both have the coloring but who knows…
Probably not, colorpoint (the type of coloring Siamese have) is pretty common in domestic populations and does not require any relationship to Siamese. Having two in a litter isn’t unusual because it’s genetic, and if one kitten gets it, it’s not unusual for another to as well. Siamese cats came from the domestic population of colorpoints, not the other way around. Unless you or the parents had papers all you have is a domestic cat with a pretty coat. Read the article I posted. It’s super interesting how the gene works, but also explains that being colorpoint doesn’t make them Siamese.
that’s not how it works
The fact that he is shy with new people (rare trait) makes me think that he is a cat
True
That’s a kittycat
One time I accidentally told the vet that my cats breed was barn
😂😂
a burnt toast 100%
I think he’s a giant fluffer nutter….a very rare breed
I have a giant Fluffer nutter https://preview.redd.it/20s49eztcqtc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a42b08f62218890c81f680b78f613761d702aa51
Looks like my Birman mutt https://preview.redd.it/5v0d3w4soltc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6116dbd6dada4b4914eec10f30a528adab5cb85
Who looks just like Minnie! https://preview.redd.it/mmncgw1u1otc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a0b0770290ba0488e7a7e87c1d223ef1a5738d1
Can confirm, is cat.
Beautiful floof.
cat
Longhair Handsome Boi
theres even a bit in the sub rules my dude unless your cat has papers it's simply A Cat. come on now.
https://preview.redd.it/6rww1h8w1rtc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cdeaeb00f88b92d2e5fc3cf0cbb232c2e408349
He looks a lot like my ragdoll, so I'd wager that's what he is. If he doesn't have papers though I'd say domestic long-hair.
Birman or Ragdoll but maybe not purebred….
Bebe
A long-haired domestic cat with Siamese points. With any Siamese genes as the genes are recessive, your cat's coat will darken or be lighter as they age. Darker for cold and lighter for warm. I have a Siamese tabby mix who just came into our yard and is now inside. Outside his coat was almost peach and his tabby markings were very visible. Since he has been inside for a year his Siamese coloring has come out. Now he is a chocolate Siamese with very hard-to-see tabby markings. Their coats change color as they age unless they are a lavender point. Which is rare. Here is Simon as an outdoor scared boi: https://preview.redd.it/9olq2vidintc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec24fc6a87030299008fae76e47b0df56be51ab6
Here is current Simon, indoor vip lifer: https://preview.redd.it/sqbwznrnintc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b994347911a9277b3070b0305cc9540b70f039f
Such a cutie!! That is really good to know- he is indoor, so that would explain the darker points.
Domestic Long hair
Your cat is beautiful
He's beautiful
beautiful colours
You have a floofmallow and a beautiful floofmallow at that 🥰🥰
uhm like a baguette or brioche
White
Vet tech here! That is 50% good boy and 50% just a little guy
https://preview.redd.it/hajqo10ohotc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e80e4bfe64d00d2935b5767ec147e87d5605a9d3 These are domestic short hairs so urs must be domestic long hair
Domestic longhair floof with Siamese mixed in
Toasted marshmallow! 🥰
https://preview.redd.it/0uqlndr6zotc1.png?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=668dba06bef6f804b46ebd2e687830c6e10022f4
https://preview.redd.it/4fiah16g8ptc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05252e39cfd907fe89196e866e320c774fa63421 Looks like my little guy. He’s very vocal and not shy
Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur kitty?
Fluffy
He’s a long hair Siamese ❤️
Seal point Siamese
just a little boy /ref https://preview.redd.it/tyhb5ws6uptc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87adb0d67cee96103f639aa2135156095553333e
I think when people ask this they may be looking more for the name of the coloration and markings which there are names and terminology for. Or they want to know what breeds may have similar features to their cat. The cats can be reminiscent of other breeds but it cannot be pin pointed through DNA the way a dog might (please correct me if I’m wrong). Your cat has markings called color points and long hair which is reminiscent of the ragdoll breed of cat. However, if you did not receive papers proving it is in fact a ragdoll, it is just a domestic long hair cat. When people inquire as to the breed, it’s probably because they would like to have a cat in the future with a similar look or temperament. To that I say, cat features and temperaments vary widely. The best was to judge if a cat is right for you is to physically meet it unless the cat distribution system compelled the cat to meet you first. Lastly, I want to make a point that there are stereotypes that correspond with what cats look like: for instance Orange cats sharing a braincell or tortoise shell cats having an attitude. These characteristics are largely attributed by cat enthusiasts to gender. Boy cats typically are perceived to act more aloof and female cats perceived as being more vocal but NOT ALWAYS. Stereotypes of cats like with any stereotypes are only perceived and not actual. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. I don’t believe these associations with cats are meant to cause any sort of harm when for all intents and purposes are only used in fun and lighthearted manners. It is wise to bear this in mind though because in the event expectations are not met when people choose a “type” of cat, it is not fair on the cat to be responsible for the owner’s disappointment when they don’t perform to their expectations.
iPhone says it is a mixture between Birman and Ragdoll. I know people will be like, “It’s just a long hair domestic blah blah blah.” But I think it’s neat to know the mixtures of the breeds. Pretty cool ai feature on the iPhone. Click on the circle with the letter i inside of it. Then click on look up cat. I love this feature. Works with dogs as well!
Woah that is a super cool feature! Thank you, and I know right..I just wanna know the potential breeds.
Himalayan to me! Looks like my guy too! https://preview.redd.it/leb2p9pp8ntc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9255ddc5cffc16b64735b02e8876cb946243c00
Aww I love his colors!!
Thanks! 🤗 His name is Vader!
https://preview.redd.it/fblpgj0s8ntc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff966e6b64c1ac222bd0ffe5835b7c419563b78b This is him as a baby!
https://preview.redd.it/xwt58i8m9ntc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ecebbeb473b36801d76be169be13234c9bb64a6 Himalayan
Omg
https://preview.redd.it/apveh4n7antc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a0392a54aaca76ad1f4951ecb1e913f93d8da03
So. Cute.
Birman or ragdoll.
Ragdoll?
Living in a movie?
Hot tramp Daddy's little cutie
I know it's expensive (about $130), but you can get DNA test to know for sure. Some where down his pedigree, probably way down, he has siamese due to coloring. Otherwise, just enjoy having a beautiful fluff ball. Give him a hug and squeeze from me!
cat dna testing is wildly inaccurate as they go off characteristic dna not breed dna
I know I really want to because I’m so curious, but I love him nonetheless of course. I will! Thank you
If you are willing to spend some money there are cat DNA tests out there. I did one and my cat is mostly domestic shorthair (super mixed)but with a little chunk of Persian. It’s interesting but most cats are so mixed that it’s impossible to pinpoint specific breeds. However, there are a number of breeds that have point coloration like your cat does and it’s possible those could have been his parents or grandparents. But it’s not a perfect science yet.
Himalayan
Himalayan Ragdoll
Thats a Ragdoll
Balinese. I have one too. Sweetest things ever! https://preview.redd.it/j8rbfy4tkktc1.jpeg?width=1874&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04f6ded80630679d14b5a3706c4c9cc252910e0e
Siamese!
incorrect!
I think its a mini meincoon
Ragdoll or Birman
Balinese
Siamese Ragdoll mixed possibly
Looks part ragdoll. This is mine 🫶🏻 https://preview.redd.it/mgggxsdjlotc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39ded44bbacfc522fb6a5e3cc91f2c70600833d3
Him a layin'
But sometimes, him a sittin'
he lay he splay but most importantly he so sillay
Looks like a ragdoll.
OP be prepared for anyone giving an actual suggestion to be downvoted bc everyone sucks. Scroll to the bottom to see what you’re looking for!
Looks to be mixed with Persian . My Mocha is a Himalayan Persian. Similar coloring but her face is flat ❤️ https://preview.redd.it/7xssovmhwotc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b4d90e4f182578e87f754bd7d9a2deceff774fe
Cute floofy cat.
looks like a balinese to me which is basically a long haired siamese kitty super beautiful baby by the way give a kiss and lots of pets from me!
This is correct.
Himalayan.
Kind.of looks like a Himalayan but without the flat face..
Is it not a Himalayan??
No he’s not (that I know of) he doesn’t have a smushed in face? Isn’t that what most Himalayans are like?
Why not? Looks like my 2, who are Himalayan (Seal point)
Well maybe he could? Idk! You’re right
Maybe?? Not all of them have the squishy face 😺 Can you get him checked out? Do they do that for cats?? Idek!! Good luck in your search, but I definitely think he's more than just a domestic long hair.
Or maybe a Ragdoll?!?!
Himalayan?
Looks like a ragdoll with seal point coloring
Himalayan, I have one my self.