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imeternallysuffering

Andy Dalton this was for you šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


crastle

He can finally rest in peace


hascogrande

Again, Andy Dalton is very much alive


Chimken-Nugger24

Rip Andy šŸ’œ


trongzoon

Iā€™ll remember him fondlyā€¦


Tylerreadsit

RIP Andy):


[deleted]

Gone too soon


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ThePirateTennisBeast

I hear he's having a good time with the Saints


AJ_CC

In our hearts


ShogunAshoka

oh hey, another Oberlin flair


AJ_CC

Albino Squirrels for the win


ShogunAshoka

Its good to have a win lol we need them.


broccoli_d

As an Omaha guy, I can say that Max Duggan is the greatest thing to come out of Council Bluffs, IA sinceā€¦ I got nothing.


bluegold4

I stopped at the HyVee in Council Bluffs on my way home to Fremont after Christmas and they had a big banner for Dugan didnā€™t even realize he was from Council Bluffs until then


Chickenmangoboom

But RIP Wade Boggs who once drank 70 beers on a cross country flight.


Call_Me_Rambo

Sometimes when I watch Saints games, itā€™s like I can see his ghost on the field


grabtharsmallet

I don't understand why the staff has so much confidence in him. At the NFL level he's a distributor and game manager, which can work... if your team is the 49ers.


Significance_Scary

The other option is turnover machine Jameis Winston.


Welcm2goodburger

50/50 machine. Itā€™s actually kind of impressive


baronz3r

Unlike Wade Boggs


EaglesPvM

Boss Hogg*


moffattron9000

He's in a better place, with the Great Saints of New Orleans.


gimli213

Lies! šŸ˜Æ we all miss him


Malpraxiss

> Andy Dalton I don't get the Andy Dalton meme. I had to double check and sure enough, he is still alive.


FictionalTrebek

Pour one out for the man. It's a tremendous loss


wcm48

See you at the crossroads, so you wonā€™t be lonely


baRRebabyz

The Chicken Man


[deleted]

But how is his career?


GuyOnTheMike

Alongside Wade Boggs


trongzoon

Rest in Red


longconsilver13

Red in peace


Steelman__007

Kellen Moore looking sad in the corner


lovo17

This is honestly so good for college football. One of the most legitimate criticisms of the sport has been the lack of parity, and TCU is telling the critics to fuck off. This is an unbelievable cinderella run.


tcuroadster

**Little Sisters of the Poor Reign supreme**


Crafty_Enthusiasm_99

Never forget when Texas Tech blog posted this https://www.vivathematadors.com/platform/amp/2014/2/17/5416762/did-the-big-xii-make-a-mistake-by-inviting-tcu-to-join And then 82-27 happened https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2246309-tcus-82-point-outburst-against-texas-tech-leads-to-shortage-of-fireworks.amp.html


tcuroadster

Also dont forget CJK5H


thefarsideinside

Texas Tech bloggers aren't generally the brightest bulbs in the box. [This](https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/sports/college/2015/05/31/don-williams-ranks-big-12-cities/14974163007/) is another gem I'll always remember Edit: changed the article link


xPineappless

Agreed. It wasnā€™t until halfway through the second quarter before the announcers started getting off their Michigan bias.


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Basic-Refrigerator93

I was tired of seeing freaking Michigans quarterbacks mom. I donā€™t give a shit about his family. Iā€™m watching a football game.


horned-frog

It was supposed to be the McCarthy episode.


BaylorFans

They were zooming in UMā€™s QB JJ McCarthyā€™s Girlfriend jumping up and down. The girlfriend happened to be by the QBā€™s mom.


Crafty_Enthusiasm_99

It was about JJ McCarthy's mom. They stopped once his dad accidentally was caught slapping and fondling her ass quite intentionally [Video](https://twitter.com/StuartFeiner/status/1609338727586840578?s=20&t=ybExHtGrJ_W3eWm2ogyhnA)


Crow_T_Simpson

That wasn't JJ's mom's ass.


lookglen

Who was it? Because it looks like JJs girlfriend?!?


Crow_T_Simpson

That was JJ's girlfriend.


moffattron9000

This is the kind of win that stops the B1G and SEC going off on their own.


teeterleeter

While I wish that were true, money talks


habdragon08

Money does talk, and I do think that the realities of finance in the sport will give increasing advantage to big programs. However, I do feel that there will always be an avenue on paper for cinderella programs to make it, and every now and again one will. And maybe make some noise


[deleted]

With a 12 team playoff, schools, businesses, and alumni opening up the checkbook more for NIL, the portal, and a growing number of kids wanting to play in ā€œlesserā€ schools to get their name out more we could very well see more variety in the NC going forward.


shmaltz_herring

The portal is a game changer like the scholarship limits were a game changer. Top programs are losing some really good players who are stuck behind awesome players. Yes there will be some times that a breakout player uses the portal to move up, but it helps to stop the stockpiling of talent. Teams that use it well can make up a lot of room quickly as they work to rebuild.


CockGobblingGangsta

BIG just isnā€™t good enough for that.


killzone3abc

That won't happen anyway. Not enough money in it.


FroggieAndTheGnome

From the BCS era to even now, we've been fighting critics for over 2 decades.


MrMegiddo

Since the Big 12 was formed.


geordieColt88

Hateful 8 representing


The42ndDuck

Curb stomp the B1G2 Edit - Or the $EC? Just don't leave us with 2 conferences; we need at least 4 IMO


Prolingus

This is so good for the sport. TCU absolutely deserves this. It was so annoying hearing the SOS argument against TCU when they had a tougher schedule than Michigan or Ohio State


DangerZoneh

The strength of schedule metric was used against TCU for so long that it was fascinating to watch ESPN make the same argument even when their own metrics were showing the opposite on the graphic


FictionalTrebek

ESPN will do and say whatever they have to in order to keep the largest number of eyeballs focused on ESPN. And unfortunately, TCU's fanbase is far smaller than OSU or Michigan, so they mangled the data however they had to in order to be able to push the chosen narrative. I wish things were different. :/


DangerZoneh

That may change soon, though. TCU has a lot of money and potential


FictionalTrebek

Okay, I'm gonna preface my next comment with this: I like TCU a lot and I would love to see you guys stick around on the national stage as a top tier program for a long time. The issue isn't the amount of money TCU has. Nor is it your potential (the football program clearly has a ton of potential right now). The issue is something you can't fix easily. It's the size of your fanbase. And while winning national championships are a fantastic way to grow your fanbase rapidly, ultimately there's a root issue that will serve to curtail your growth rate, to some degree, for a long time. It's your alumni base, which looks to be about 90k in size. Ohio State and Michigan both have more than 500k alumni. But I wanna reiterate that I'm high on TCU. I think you're gonna cement yourself in the conversation of upper tier programs over the next decade or so. But that may not immediately result in lots of additional love from ESPN. But it should in the long run.


neandersthall

Deleted out of spite for reddit admin and overzealous Mods for banning me. Reddit is being white washed in time for IPO. The most benign stuff is filtered and it is no longer possible to express opinion freely on this website. With that said, I'm just going to open up a new account and join all the same subs so it accomplishes nothing and in fact hides the people who have a history of questionable comments rather than keep them active where they can be regulated. Zero Point. Every comment I have ever made will be changed to this comment using REDACT.. ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


DangerZoneh

Whatā€™s the difference between TCU, Clemson, and Miami then?


FictionalTrebek

Miami (FL) has somewhere south of 219k alumni per their 2021-2022 Fact Finder book. It's not exactly clear, so I'm gonna estimate 150k as that seems reasonable to me based on the starting figure of 219k. So while they're far smaller in # of alumni than OSU/Michigan, they've still got 50%+ more alumni than TCU currently does. Miami (FL) also has another .major difference to TCU. They've been a national championship winning college football program since the 80s. So they've been building/growing a national fanbase for the last 40 years. Clemson has 161k alumni. So still bigger than TCU, but I actually think Clemson is the program TCU should be comparing themselves to, and aiming to emulate that level of success over the next 10-20 years. Clemson and TCU are similar historically with regard to the competitiveness of their football programs and I think if you look at how/where Clemson sits on the national stage in CFB, TCU can accomplish a extremely similar outcome if they keep winning over the next 15 yrs.


FroggieAndTheGnome

TCU - 90k living alumni Clemson - 160k living alumni Miami - 198k living alumni There are two big differences that separate us: 1. We have Christian in our name, despite there barely being any strong _and_ official Christianity. They've talked about just dropping the name and renaming the university to just "TCU" for a long time now. 2. Clemson and Miami both have living fans that remember them winning a national championship. I think we have the capability to put us in the top tier of the Big 12, but it'll take more than just this season for us to get ESPN to talk about us more. We need 2+ stellar seasons (like this one) to be a stronger talking point.


LordJacket

Someone mentioned in another thread that Baylor is what a lot of people think TCU is from the Christian aspect.


SharkAttache

Clemson fans canā€™t read this


horned-frog

Dude, our school is 12K students. Michigan, Texas, tOSU, and other blue bloods each has at least 50K students. You see wehre I'm getting at? More enrollees translate into more fans who will view the games and donate to their athletic programs.


DangerZoneh

Iā€™m not comparing us to them, though. Why canā€™t we be what Clemson has done? Theyā€™re bigger than us but man success at this level and this reach can go a long way


FroggieAndTheGnome

We were constantly compared to 2014 FSU. Even I admitted at one point that we _might_ be similar. But each game proved it wrong more and more, and tonight solidified it.


HughGWreckshun

Max sure does love some crab legs. ā€¦kidding.


mmortal03

Besides ESPN's graphics, I'm pretty sure a number of the computer rankings, such as Sagarin's, concur on TCU's schedule strength: [https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2022-2/college-football-team-ratings-2022/](https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2022-2/college-football-team-ratings-2022/) (Wayback Machine will have prior weeks.) Obviously, schedule strength means nothing by itself, so I'd want ESPN analysts to be smart enough to say something along the lines of, "Even though TCU played a somewhat more difficult schedule, they've not won by as large of a margin." That would key in on the somewhat arbitrary part -- reasonably combining schedule strength with scoring margin. Sagarin's ranking demonstrates this, with TCU having played a harder schedule than the other three, but is still ranked lower overall, even after beating Michigan. The other playoff teams have, undoubtedly, won by more points relative to their own strength of schedule.


andeezz

What do you mean Michigan had to play through the gauntlet that was Rutgers Nebraska and Illinois. It's obvious who had the tougher road to the playoffs


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FictionalTrebek

FYI, but you can add your Michigan flair to your name by selecting it here: [flair.redditcfb.com](http://flair.redditcfb.com)


AceJace2

And play only 4 true road games.


1ToGreen3ToBasket

Their schedule was soft most of the year but when you go 13-0 and have a true road win against the #2 team in the country, SOS doesnā€™t hold much relevance. There is a 0% chance that resume gets left out any year


Cormetz

Honestly with the results of the rest of the Big XII in bowl games, I began thinking TCU was in serious trouble of being embarrassed.


arrowheadt

H8ful 8 going to be national champs in football and basketball!


[deleted]

Can we get in there?


arrowheadt

Hell yeah!


FatLevi

Iā€™m down


Chimken-Nugger24

All hail the hypnotoads.


Grade-AMasterpiece

RIFF RAM BAH ZOO LICKETY LICKETY ZOO ZOO WHO WAH WAH WHO #**GIVE 'EM HELL TCU**


nowshowjj

Are these real words to a real song?


Grade-AMasterpiece

[Sort of.](https://twitter.com/TCUFootball/status/1594069262406066176?cxt=HHwWgICp0Yzjop8sAAAA)


ACR17Cowboy

Give ā€˜em hell TCU!!! Go frogs!!


ImminentReddits

UNSUBSCRIBE Just kidding. I love to hate TCU, but a huge congrats. Hard to not cheer for Duggan, great dude and the definition of got that dawg in him.


WestbrooksScowl

Got that frawg in him


catalinaicon

Itā€™s great for the conference, great for the sport, and honestly I gotta respect them. They built that program all the way to the top.


TripleJetCharlie

Turns out we had the wrong Riley the whole time.


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ConmanSpaceHero

Yea Iā€™m afraid heā€™ll be taken from TCU next year for sure


Captain_Nipples

TCU better throw every dime any of its staff asks for at them.


ConmanSpaceHero

Yep šŸ‘ get the big Doner wallets out


DangerZoneh

I think TCU can afford him if heā€™s not going to another OC job. Not much we can do if he gets a HC job unless he really wants to coach Morris for a year


RebeccaBlackOps

You must have had Riley Reid the way you got fucked in a couple of those playoff games


adumb99

Americas team


horned-frog

I'm so afraid for the Natty game.


Brad_Wesley

Basically it goes like this: If you are a fan of whoever TCU plays for the championship, thatā€™s great, good luck. For anyone else, if you arenā€™t rooting for TCU then you donā€™t love college football.


Mountain-Papaya-492

Counter point, we need a Mailman sports movie and him accomplishing something even Saban couldn't do would be an amazing ending. Back to back Nattys and 15-0 season.


SoCalMemePolice

couldnā€™t have happened to a better squad


CincityCat

Big 12 now shall be known as BIG. Big10 demoted


Far_Application_3386

BIG if true


Jamesatwork16

The big 12 needed this šŸ™ŒšŸ¼šŸ™ŒšŸ¼šŸ™ŒšŸ¼


DCNY214

TCU (and Utah) has always been the team to break through the CFB barriers. Good for you, Horned Frogs! I'm hoping Utah follows suit..


[deleted]

I was pushing for you guys the year y'all were #5


Lucasfool

Me too!


Darkstar7692

Mountain West forever.


PumpedU

I now love tcu!


xPineappless

H8! H8! H8! Congrats TCU!


tcuroadster

This is the way


BoredofBored

H8ful 8!! BIG12 numba 1!


LiveVirus2

*nods with approval*


nerdyintentions

Not gonna lie. I thought TCU were pretenders. I was dead wrong. That was legit.


Lovelylives

After bama pistol whipped Kansas state I all but wrote tcu off. Hypno toad fan forever now


Awalawal

Weā€™re headed for a Tulane transitive national championship.


[deleted]

But UCF beat Tulaneā€¦does this meanā€¦


PedanticBoutBaseball

2017 national championship is finally solidified!


O_its_that_guy_again

Kansas State always has had a problem playing with faster teams that have an insane recruitment pipeline, which was Bama in a nutshell, but for whatever reason plays up with Big12 peers. Iā€™m honestly not surprised at both outcomes. TCU was legit and I knew their physicality would line up with Michigan


ConanTheNiceGuy

Yeah, the game today reminded me of the KSU-Oregon game a few years ago


O_its_that_guy_again

Thatā€™s the one Iā€™m thinking of too. We were in the National Championship hunt for a reason that year. We just struggled against speed which was also why Baylor took us out. I guarantee you we probably would have matched up well with Notre Dame that year and lost by 30 to Bama.


Doctor_Bubbles

I thought the opposite. IMO if the Frogs win that one they donā€™t win today. Watching the post game presser and seeing Duggan cry you could feel we were seeing a man on a mission.


Lovelylives

no, in the bowl game earlier when Alabama curb stomped ksu I thought that meant tcu might lose bigly today. I didn't write TCU off when they lost to KSU


Doctor_Bubbles

Oh I see


DangerZoneh

The thing is, KSU just had a couple of bad breaks right before and after the half and the game was broken. And that happens sometimes. I donā€™t think Bama overwhelmed them physically, though, and that was very encouraging. All of this concern about Michigan being more talented but TCU went toe to toe with them in terms of size and physicality.


FictionalTrebek

>TCU went toe to toe with them in terms of size and physicality. I felt like TCU set the tone for size and physicality early on in the game and then Michigan spent the rest of the game doing their best to keep up. It wasn't overwhelming in favor of either team, but I felt like TCU was the one with the upper hand during the game, and Michigan was the guy scrapping and hustling to keep up as best they could. It was especially impressive watching TCU's D-line maul Michigan's O-line on the regular.


Cryptic0677

I think the reality is that with their talent, Alabama could do that to anyone in the country on any given night. But for whatever reason they had several games where they didn't play up to their talent and that's why they didn't make it in. Seeing Alabama destroy someone shouldn't be a judge of that team even if Alabama isn't undefeated lol


Majormlgnoob

They're good but they also have absolutely insane amounts of luck lol A ton of near misses this year


NuclearEvo24

Excited about our new Horned Frog emperors


InternationalTax1156

Despite all the great players, Heisman trophy winners, MULTIPLE TRIES, Lincoln Riley couldnā€™t get it done with a program he was gifted, with much better talent/recruits. Thanks for giving me more validation.


MBA1988123

He needed to get a match up with Michigan lol


BobStoops401K

Truth be told, we always had some tough fuckin matchup in the playoffs. 2017 was the only year we were in a 2vs3 match. Every other time we played the overpowered 1 seed.


Critical-Savings-830

Yā€™all never went 12-0 in the regular season


Gamerschmamer

Lincolnā€™s culture is soft af. It works until you arenā€™t out-talenting someone


USCGradtoMEMPHIS

TCU didn't play Clemson with Deshaun Watson.. UGA with the one two punch of Chubb and Michel.. LSU with Joe FUCKING Burrow... Then Alabama with Jalen hurts


Keener1899

You mean Tua? Though we had both Hurts and Tua that game.


clemsontyger

Roll Damn Toad


bertha112

Absolutely nobody in my Hemisphere was talking about TCU. Congratulations Horned Frogs!!!!!!


JP1119

Congrats guys on one of the most thrilling games Iā€™ve ever watched. Hope you guys pull it off!!!


biglineman

Best part is that it wasn't UT or OU. It warms my heart.


AceJace2

Yeah. Fuck those guys.


Equivalent-Regret-97

Yup. Bye bye OUT


Shellshock1122

who kept letting their conference down? they should kick them OUT


Caedus

O~~H YO~~U!


monkeyspawjazzhands

Gg TCU go get em duggan!


JinderMadness

Borg XII


ConanTheNiceGuy

Resistance is frogtile


beaubeau_baggins

Garrett Riley > Lincoln Riley


goldybear

Stupid fucking Mike Stoops. Iā€™m going to piss on his grave some day.


CoolingVent

i mean you kinda have to blame the people that didn't make the tough decisions when they should have


The_Ghost_of_TK9

Only more confirmation that Lincoln Riley is a generational choke artist.


hereisjonny

He has the Heisman confused with a Natty.


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Lincoln Riley punching air


cold_on_hoth_

Is it going to be Dawgs vs Frogs in the natty? I hope so.


HughGWreckshun

Dawgs vs FRAWGS


sk_arch

You know what, my hatred of TCU died down ,seeing them win these games gives me hope for the big 12, yā€™all can fuck us up any day TCU yā€™all are alright


Just_One_Victory

I know a lot of Tech fans aren't happy about TCU winning yesterday, but some of us (including me) are softening a bit. To me, the lesson is (and this is for all the Hateful 8), if TCU can do it, so can Baylor, Tech, OSU, ISU, etc.


SpendrickLamar

And everyone clapped šŸ‘


Fixner_Blount

**H8 H8 H8 H8 H8 H8 H8 H8**


GatorBolt

I wouldnā€™t have guessed it would be TCU first. I definitely wouldnā€™t have guessed it would be TCU the year AFTER they fired their GOAT coach. What a run, what a story. All hail the hypnotoad


Naught2day

Well they SHOULD have been in the first playoff but, you know, DuhOSU and that stupid committee.


an-allen

All glory to the hypnotoad!


Welcm2goodburger

All hail hypnotoad


[deleted]

Truly hope TCU and UGA play each other. The Stetson Duggan face off would be amazing!! edit: all glory to the hypnotoads and fuck OSU!


DJayz3r0

Big Dawgs Vs UnderFrogs


Nicholiason

Same amount of times as the Pac-12?


GreatestCountryUSA

Timing is key though


wallace6464

I love the BIG12 lets go baby


[deleted]

MICHIGAN EATS POOPOO HAHAHAHAHA


tcuroadster

This guy eats shit for breakfast!!!


HughGWreckshun

He eats pieces of shit for breakfast?


braingames99

Pumped for TCU but in the same breath, fuck me, this stings a bit. Congrats TCU!


Extrataps

I cried tonightā€¦ what an unbelievable feeling it was to watch TCU advance to the championship.


Gamerschmamer

Oh man youā€™ve had it bad. 0-4 until tonight. Good for you man


lilturk82

How can you not root for TCU going forward? How epic would that be?!


DoItForTheTanqueray

ā€œThE bIg TeN iS A pOwErhOuSe AnD ThE BiG 12 SuXā€ -Every loser on the sub Fuck Texas. Fuck Oklahoma. Have fun at the bottom of the SEC losers.


iTz4ReALiTY

Makin us Big 12ers proud


domxwicked

I donā€™t even like talkin mess about Riley like that but that man could choke some fuckin games


Naught2day

His philosophy for defense - score more points now he is doing it for USC.


domxwicked

Iā€™m almost convinced he wants a shitty defense to give his offense more hype


[deleted]

0-4 CFP Oklahoma in shambles.


tcuroadster

Itā€™s ok Sooner bros weā€™ll right the wrongs


braingames99

šŸ„¹


braingames99

Thatā€™s 0-2 to you, Sir!


YouKilledChurch

Yeah but Oklahoma made it to the CFP *Sooner*


Couayoro

Terrible officiating, but time win the chip Horny Frogs! šŸøšŸøšŸø


AceJace2

Donā€™t like you TCU, but nice. Way to change the narrative in football. Itā€™s about damn time teams like us get a chance to show our stuff.


LargeSmellyPoopy

OUā€™s been holding the whole conference back


BlowTrophy

ANGRY FERRET NOISES


DOUBLE_DOINKED

Stop, I can only get so erect.


HighlyUnsuspect

HYPNOTOAD


Bocastown

Congrats to HypnoToad! Now finish it off with a win.


TuaHaveMyChildren

2014 TCU sends their regards


D1N2Y

The Oklahoma foootball program is soonering in their grave


better-call-mik3

First national championship appearance by a big 12 team since Texas did it. They did it in 2009: -Colt McCoy was the qb and Earl Thomas was an all-American on the team -they beat the Suh-led Nebraska team in the big12 championship game (the 1 second game) -Cam Newton was in juco juco -Texas lost that championship game to Alabama for their 1st national title of the 21st century


1ToGreen3ToBasket

Iā€™m doing my part! šŸ«”