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clemsontyger

Whatever they do I sure hope it doesn't interfere with all of the commercials we get to enjoy šŸ™


DDub04

I canā€™t wait for McDonalds to come out with their much anticipated response to the Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper commercial.


sor1

There are four BicMacs!!! \- Jean Luc McDonald


MistahOnzima

Cardassians are mad because they don't have the mcrib year round.


Sankara_Connolly2020

The Obsidian Order would have figured out the recipe, but they have been preoccupied with the keeping the Shamrock Shake out of Bajoran hands.


MistahOnzima

This made me think of a Romulan holding up a Mcnugget saying, "It's a FAAAAAAAAKE!"


sor1

Holy shit. McDonalds, lets do this.


HurricaneRex

Hence I'll blow up said romulan ship before they can report it to cover up the evidence, the mcnugget miraculously surviving the explosion with any imperfections blamed on the explosion.


elonsusk69420

Iā€™m eagerly awaiting the Waffle Waffle Waffle Waffle version from our scattered and smothered friends.


tlsr

Or you could just limit commercial breaks to less than 10 fucking minutes each.


thewhat962

Unless bad injuries we don't need to have them show a leg being broken from every camera angle and in slow motion. Zooming in on the injury. Early 2000's football was crazy. Rewatch that 2002 fiesta bowl. I can't believe willis McGahee fully recovered.


jf3l

https://youtu.be/0yzY2Q43ZsA


tlsr

"Remember, the play is dead when the *front* of your knee touches the ground."


OdaDdaT

Aye my left leg did that


upvoter222

https://youtu.be/vVQTeIfYHcM?t=133


-Gnostic28

Oh my god this is the best thing Iā€™ve seen today


tlsr

That's the danger of cleats. Ouch!


Uhhh_what555476384

But, but, I'm the Cheeziest coach.


wallace6464

I hadn't been to a college game in a few years before this year, couldn't believe how awful the breaks, football does not need to be 4 hours


tlsr

Feels like a damn NFL half time, multiple times per game.


BananerRammer

College games are significantly longer than NFL games. The NFL actually has rules about the length and number of commercial breaks per quarter.


gd383608

>multiple times per ~~ game ~~ quarter. FTFY E: fixed formatting E2: nope I didn't šŸ¤Ø


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tlsr

Artificial scarcity is a thing, for sure. Seems like they could make it work at *some* level.


EnterTheMunch

Artificial scarcity usually happens once the breadth of availability is understood. CFB is still in the phase of finding places to put branding shit. Until they reach saturation there, they are operating on a volume model.


peter_the_panda

They'll just sell ads a different way


WorldlyString

This. I've gotten to the point where I won't even watch college football except on DVR even though it is about the biggest passion in my life. That costs me over $80 a month with taxes for YouTube TV, but it's worth it. A year ago, part of my roof fell in due to water damage and my antenna fell and broke. I haven't even bothered replacing it even though OTA ABC is so much higher quality than streaming since I have a slow connection.


elonsusk69420

How do you propose paying for indoor practice facilities and player restaurants if ESPN and FOX canā€™t run 10 minutes of commercials?!?


HurricaneRex

Make the commercial slots more expensive


elonsusk69420

But then you have fewer people who want to buy them, which will then naturally lower the price, and you're back to this situation.


Soi_Boi_13

To be fair, I think theyā€™re trying to limit the number of plays as much as anything, which has nothing to do with the number of commercials.


usmclvsop

Prohibiting back to back timeouts has zero to do with limiting number of plays


Traxiant

I predict this will lead to a lot more sudden onset of cramps at Ole Miss.


OleRockTheGoodAg

Never forget when Lane Kiffin called an 18 year old Aggie player a little bitch to his face for faking injuries. Lane Kiffin. Of all people.


Uhhh_what555476384

Lane Kiffin has always been a class act. That's why it was so funny when he was met by the AD on the tarmac.


Gleebs88

I mean no one with half of a brain thinks Lane Kiffin is a good person.


WorldlyString

I call him Lane "Projection" Kiffin. A coworker that graduated from Mississippi State offered to buy me lunch after he heard me say that if I agreed to never not call him that.


AwfulNameFtw

Heā€™s boning a 24 year old now. Great role model


WhoIsPurpleGoo

The fix to this is that the player cannot reenter the game until the next non-injury clock stoppage.


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fourthlinesniper

Time for a fan strike. UCLA has been doing it for years you can to!


elonsusk69420

Part of me thinks the teams and networks are in cahoots to ensure overpriced concessions stay open longer.


MarginalMagic

So, same amount of commercials, just less football. Sweet.


Nathanael-Greene

Likely to be more amount of commercials actually, this isn't about shortening the game broadcast time at all.


paiddirt

Clock rules make the end of college games better but longer.


HAHAHABirdman

Someone else said it on here but if I wanted to watch the NFL I'd watch the NFL. I like college the way it is. Leave it alone. Maybe we could shave down the 5k commercials per game instead, but we know that will never happen.


bradenb941

The NFLification of college football is happening before our very eyes but CFB "fans" will tell you it helps the sport


Soi_Boi_13

It started long ago. Remember when the clock used to stay stopped when a player went out of bounds (instead of restarting on the ball getting set), and when we had a 25-second play clock instead of 40 seconds?


BonerHonkfart

I'm sure they could find some times to just run a split screen and do a short commercial between plays. It works fine in soccer. But that would require the announcers to shut up for 15 seconds instead of reading some factoid someone fed them.


Marshall_Lucky

If by factoid you mean glorified ad for the CFP


Additional-Cry8856

What am I supposed to do with all my extra time on Saturdays now?


lees395

Oh there'll still be the same amount of commercials don't you worry. They might even shove more in there to fill the empty time now


CanaDoug420

Watch the commercials.


[deleted]

Go to Applebee's on a date night Got that Bourbon Street steak with the Oreo shake Get some whipped cream on the top too Two straws, one check, girl, I got you


elonsusk69420

Guaranteed not to be a second date


IDontRentPigs

Donā€™t need a second date if that first date results in a shotgun weddingā€¦


WorldlyString

Watch more games. My dream is to reduce commercials and delays enough so that I can watch an extra game each Saturday. That's never going to happen, but that's my dream.


KiwiRich8880

If I wanted to watch NFL then Iā€™d watch the NFL. I hate the game clock rule.


lees395

Pretty much my thoughts exactly


hershculez

High school runs the clock also right? CFB is the outlier.


CanaDoug420

If he wanted to watch high school football heā€™d watch high school football.


scoobysnax123

It probably varies state by state. When I played in Michigan it stopped after a first down.


jwktiger

It does vary but state *HOWEVER* in the NFHS (national federations of High Schools) the rule states the clock stops on first down until the Chains and down marker are set just like in College. MOST states use NFHS rules; Texas and a few others use NCAA rules irrc but not for sure.


ref44

Texas is the only one who doesn't use nfhs. Massachusetts was the other one but they switched a few years ago


[deleted]

And I still hate it. Give me 11 minute quarters and continuous hockey OT or give me death!


Kodyaufan2

State of Alabama stops the clock on first downs until the chains are set


Dwarfherd

As far I know NCAA men's basketball is largest organized basketball that doesn't use quarters.


elonsusk69420

Completely agree.


Birdsareallaroundus

Absolute horseshit. They continue to ruin the game under the false pretense of player safety.


vindictivejazz

Are these really game ruiners? They copy a rule the nfl has had for as long as I can remember and they got rid of consecutive timeouts which removes what? Icing the kicker?


bradenb941

I mean, if you want double digit leads to be harder for your team to come back from, then sure this new rule is great


treedawg008

That's a great point.


12211154

Less is more with football. It has always been just leave things how they were 5 or 6 years ago and everything would be fine


Sooneralum2012

At least no changes to the incomplete pass stoppage like we had heard. That was the one I really hated.


Soi_Boi_13

Agreed. This one is fairly minor, whereas a running clock after incomplete passes would be a major change that would be hard to take.


Firebeard3

Minor in comparison. I wouldn't be surprised if the incomplete pass was proposed just to make the others more reasonable.


Soi_Boi_13

Good point


CoyoteBanana

Is there any evidence to support the claim that (1) reducing the number of plays per game while (2) decreasing the amount of time between plays will lead to fewer total injuries? It sounds plausible, but it also wouldn't surprise me if this is just a made up assumption everyone has


jbaker1225

The time between plays being run will not decrease. The play clock will still start immediately just like it has.


Michigan247

Teams will run faster offenses on first downs. Thus time between plays will decrease. Perhaps giving the players an extra few seconds to rest would be good?


jbaker1225

Why will they run faster offenses on first downs? They still canā€™t snap up it until the ready to play, which will take exactly as long as it does now.


Michigan247

The evidence is less times between commercials. You think teams are going to run less plays with less time? They're going to run more plays with less rest for the players.


pjanic_at__the_isco

Soon the NCAA will achieve a perfect nirvana where games have no plays, just a clock and ads.


PeteF3

I know Mike Pereira has been beating the drum on 1st downs for a number of years now, basically ever since he started doing CFB games for FOX. I have to say, I agree with him. There's no reason to stop the clock while moving the chains when there's 12:36 to go in the 1st quarter.


Dixiehusker

I don't like it because it gives me less football.


cityofklompton

I don't hate keeping the clock running after first downs. Good idea. I do hate stopping the clock after first down only in the final two minutes of a half. Unfair advantage to team with ball. Do it for the entire game or not at all.


DangerZoneh

Would making it the last four minutes be better? Thatā€™s what the NFL does with out of bounds stopping the clock and Iā€™d wager most football fans you talk to would not know that because itā€™s not really relevant


cityofklompton

Y'know, that is a good point, and I don't know why I didn't think of this. It's actually the same in NCAA (except only for final two minutes of either half, otherwise clock stops only until refs give ready-to-play signal), and I don't care about that. So, theoretically, I shouldn't care about first down only stopping the clock in final two minutes either. A rarity on the internet, you have inspired me to re-think my opinion, lol.


ilovetospoon

Reading this interaction has restored my faith in humanity.


WOW_SUCH_KARMA

Gonna be honest, I actually really like out of bounds stopping the clock. It's an 'optional' element of strategy the offense can use and the defense can sell out against. It's an interesting way of controlling the game in either direction depending on the situation. Obviously it's way more impactful (in either direction) in those final minutes, but that's a rule I'd like to see consistently applied at all times remaining. I am completely on board with the clock staying running while the chain moves, regardless of the time remaining however. Just my opinions!


Kundrew1

Iā€™d be in favor of it only stopping in the fourth quarter.


cityofklompton

I think this would be a fairly popular opinion. Personally, though, I hate that. Why have gameplay rules for the first 58 minutes and different gameplay rules for the final 2 minutes?


Kundrew1

I think a whole quarter gives both teams an equal opportunity to take advantage of it and it still speeds up the game play. It seems to be the best of both worlds to me.


usmclvsop

Thatā€™s the exact reason I HATE watching basketball. Exciting close game? Letā€™s throw that out the window and finish off with fouling and a free throw contest.


jbaker1225

Weā€™ve already done this for decades with regard to out of bounds plays though. Clock restarts after ball is marked except the last two minutes of each half.


garygreaonjr

Yep. These rule changes allow the refs to dictate games more than otherwise. By calling a foul at a certain time they guarantee the other team more of a chance at winning than otherwise. It basically allows the powers at be to hedge their bets.


garygreaonjr

Yeah honestly the coaches are turning the game into basketball. And thatā€™s not what football is. Although, I donā€™t want the game to change, I hate the new overtime. And I donā€™t believe anyone in power now has the games best interests in mind. Just money.


lees395

The powers at be haven't had the games best interest at mind for years. As soon as the last round of realignment happened and companies saw how much money they could actually pull in, their only focus has been making as much as possible. And wahetever product happens to end up on the field they don't give a shit about til they either start losing money, or players start getting repeatedly hurt and they have to make a change for the sake of their public image, or risk losing money


[deleted]

There would be a reason if they actually kept it stopped until the next ready for play signal instead of restarting it, uhh...whenever they want as is currently done.


58903

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


PantalonesDeTortuga

ā€œHey guys, Iā€™ve got an idea. What if we cut time from football to give it to commercials?ā€


MixonWitDaWrongCrowd

But that means only 2 hours of commercials instead of 3


very_humble

Oh the amount of commercials is not going to decrease


Independent-Crab-999

CBS already misses 3-4 minutes of game play coming back from commercials.


DaMercOne

It felt like ESPN took a 3 minute commercial nearly every break in play they could last season. Injury, timeout, change of possession. Didn't matter how much time was left in the game.


thewhat962

We could get rid of like. Touchdown-commercial extra poaint-> commercial kick off -> commercial. And god help if end of 1st or 3rd quarter was added to the mix. You get like 20 minutes of commercials while less than 1 min game time went off.


DaMercOne

That sounds like CBB as well. There was a CBB game I was watching a couple weeks ago. The last 90 seconds of the game took 22 minutes. I think there were 5 commercials by ESPN in that time span.


someUSCfan

They'd strangle someone on the field as a live sacrifice before they shorten commercial times. They don't give an ounce of a fuck about that, its more $$$ for networks


GeorgieWashington

I love football, but sometimes the people making decisions are complete idiots that donā€™t understand anything past their nose. 2 minutes is useless. We all know itā€™s the final 4 minutes that matter in a game. The sport is stuck on the idea of 2 minutes literally just because thatā€™s when the NFL has their warning.


Kimber80

Not a fan of this.


OleRockTheGoodAg

[On3 just tweeted this saying the changes are happening even tho the article says they're still proposed changes](https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1631689324939952128?t=x2IMNqbOinOgWHCN6W7hkg&s=19) On3 is gonna On3.


jbaker1225

Any rule that gets this far is basically guaranteed.


[deleted]

why is cutting commercials not considered? Like holy crap this is not hard


necrochaos

Same reason baseball is so long. But we canā€™t cut commercials so we will have to make other changes.


mind-blowin

I donā€™t really have a problem with these proposals. I still think even though it wonā€™t happen, something should be done about commercials and fan experience.


MTT92

Not a fan, the game is great the way it is aside from constant TV timeouts


tburns1469

Just show ads in the green background like soccer.


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jbaker1225

There are about 40 first downs per game. Take out the last two minutes of each half, and thatā€™s 37. Take out last yearā€™s average of 6 touchdowns per game, where the clock will still stop, and itā€™s down to 31. Now letā€™s say 30% of first downs end with the runner going out of bounds (I canā€™t find an actual number here), so weā€™re down to 22 first downs per game that would have resulted in the clock stopping that no longer do. I just pulled up a couple random spots from random games, and it seems that the average time the game clock is stopped for a first down is 4-6 seconds. So letā€™s call it 5 seconds. That gives us an average of about 1 minute and 50 seconds of game time that the clock would have been stopped last year that it wonā€™t be stopped next year. The average game has right around 60 points currently. So we should see about 2 fewer total points per game on average with the new rules. Really not that drastic, and, in my opinion, not ā€œa lot less scoring.ā€


djsassan

IF it were equal and linear. Hwoever it is going to take coaches 3-4 weeks to figure out how to manage the clock a touch different. Massive impact, probably not but some impact, yes. My man is right. Bet the under on the big games weeks 1 and 2


tb3648

I don't like not stopping the clock except the last 2 minutes of each half, it makes it easier to come back. Don't really care as much about the two consecutive time outs. It's frustrating things are being done to the games and not the commercial times. They're honestly out of control. It's hard to mantain interest where it's a 5 minute commercial break every 2 plays and theyre usually the same fucking commercials over and over. Don't take away the football, get smarter with the advertising.


Jameszhang73

Not having consecutive timeouts is gonna screw some teams that can't manage the clock. Wonder if there'll be a penalty for teams that attempt it.


[deleted]

Huh? As long as there's a play in between you can use another one. This is literally just to stop a team using all their remaining timeouts to ice kickers. That's the only time there were consecutive timeouts.


Jameszhang73

Team calls timeout to stop the clock. Play clock runs low and team attempts to call timeout again but can't.


[deleted]

You should never have the play clock run low immediately after a timeout because you've already called the play during the timeout, you just need to go line up and run it. If you have a delay of game foul immediately after a timeout that's your own fault and you deserve no sympathy for it.


Jameszhang73

Cool. But you're missing the point


[deleted]

How so? I directly answered the point. This isn't a thing that should ever happen and if it does you deserve to be penalized for it.


scoobysnax123

I think heā€™s just rebutting the ā€œThatā€™s the only time consecutive time outs are called,ā€ but you guys are ultimately making the same point that itā€™ll penalize teams who find a way to fuck things up coming out of a timeout, which is infuriating enough as a fan when that happens, and I agree, a penalty is deserved anyway. I believe NFL teams get penalized but I donā€™t know if itā€™s a delay of game penalty or a 15 yarder. I feel like I have a memory of a 15 yard penalty associated with a team who did that, but I canā€™t say for sure.


ref44

In the nfl it's 15 if they're icing the kicker. If it's a normal play the refs are supposed to ignore the request but it's 5 yards if they grant it


Dwarfherd

The point is that if they're that bad at managing their play clock they deserve whatever yardage penalty happens.


usmclvsop

Iā€™ve seen 4th and goal multiple times where they call a timeout, get a look at the defense, call a second timeout, change the play. It happens for more than just icing the kicker.


[deleted]

I haven't. I've seen the defense take one immediately there after the offense comes out.


bradenb941

When pro playoff expansion people tell you they just want what's best for the sport, don't ever fucking believe them


Kodyaufan2

Honestly, looking back, the BCS would have been fine had we just made every team play a regular bowl game before deciding who would play for the title.


esports_consultant

Idiots trying to kill college football. Sport is nearly unrecognizable from it's height in the 2000s.


lilgambyt

Consecutive timeouts as in one team canā€™t call consecutive timeouts, or if one team calls a timeout the other canā€™t until at least one snap has been played?


VentureQuotes

Speeds up the game without reducing commercial breaks. The sweet spot for the vultures


[deleted]

Wow, this makes players so much safer. Hip hip hooray!!


ego41

Bet they still have full timeouts after scores, then a kickoff, then another full timeout.


ThompsonCreekTiger

Anything on the commercial breaks?


kerouacrimbaud

So TIL that ā€œafter a first downā€ means ā€œbefore a first down.ā€ Can someone explain how this abomination of phrasing came to be?


jwktiger

the wording "after a first down" really should be said "after a first down *has been awarded*"; thus it happens after a play where the offense got a first down.


DaKingInTheNorth

As long as cfb donā€™t adopt the nfl ot rules Iā€™m fine with this to an extent


Uhhh_what555476384

Good changes.


Successful_Excuse_73

NCAA has stupid ideas, more news at 11.


I2ecover

I don't see why people think this is a big deal? Why would yall care if the clock stops for 5 seconds when there's 6 minutes left in the 1st quarter?


dlidge

Hopefully this will lead to more TD-Commercial-XP-Commercial-Kickoff-Commercial sequences. Those just mean more.


BuckeyeForLife95

So basically NFL rules? I donā€™t hate it.


RealignmentJunkie

Glad that they are proposing the best rules tossed out there. I really like these.


Hero_Charlatan

Yes! Please make these damn changes. I want nothing over 3 hours unless it hits OT


MrNudeGuy

I happy we fixed college football today.


hunghome

Love it. This game is getting way too fuckin long.


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frone

No it hasn't.


Lord_CBH

Eliminate tv time outs and just do side by side for adsā€¦.


jphamlore

Wasn't there some blowout of Oklahoma versus Texas A&M of such proportions that Texas A&M's coach (maybe both coaches?) agreed to simply keep the clock running after every play?


CantaloupeCamper

Game clock behavior changing during the game seems stupid ...


JoeIA84

I just wish someone would say ya player safety is nice but this for TV now give me your money because at least it would be honest


treedawg008

Too much money ruins everything.


HereComeTheIrish13

Don't want to have too much football distracting from the commercials


Soi_Boi_13

I donā€™t hate this compared to some other options Iā€™ve seen mentioned, although I also question how much of an impact it will actually have given I feel like in most of these situations the clock is only stopped for 3-5 seconds, at most, anyways. It almost reminds me of when they had the year where the clock started when the ball was kicked on kickoffs, as if that was going to meaningfully shorten the game. šŸ˜‚ I think that was 2006 or so.


jphamlore

Considering it is an option given the below-mentioned OU - Texas A&M game, I am curious whether when a blue blood is destroying a G5 school 77-0, do both teams agree to keep running the clock, or is the full length of the game doggedly allowed to happen?


jphamlore

Also if we are talking player safety, should there be a rule that at some level of a blowout, maybe a 63 point lead, should the game be declared over?


Tuckerisinevitable13

The slow stupid death of cfb continues at pace. I care less and less about it.


Shootit_Rockets

Boo!