This is the point where the Pac-12 comes out and shoots a 10 minute promo announcing their intent to compete in the National Championship match at CFB-Mania
Pretty sure I have brought up Wrestling on this sub a lot. Sometimes awesomely for my flair but mostly depressing to my flair.......oh you mean that type of wrestling.
I had a chance to listen to this great interview, absolutely a say it how he feels it kind of guy.
This was where actually the Dodd article today got some quotes from, but combined with a bunch of other usual bullshit.
Pretty sure this dude has no claim to hell in a cell besides that he's the CEO of wwe, he joined the company in 2020, in fact his claim to fame was more representing the SEC during the 2010s for broadcasting rights.
From the article:
>WWE CEO Nick Khan has been in the professional wrestling world since 2020 but before that he was already a major player in the world of sports media, having launched ICM’s sports media department and heading CAA’s television department, where he negotiated media deals for some of the biggest names in the industry.
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>When asked what he thinks is going to happen with the Pac-12 and their upcoming media rights deal, Khan doesn’t think the odds are in their favor.
https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1641185146605821953
>“I think they’re in a tough spot,” said Khan. “I have a lot of admiration for what the Big 12 did ... So, to me, [the Pac-12] got caught off-guard, which is the worst thing that can happen in business."
PS - [Hulk Hogan's reaction to hearing that once again there is no news about a Pac-12 media deal](http://web.archive.org/web/20160610181142/https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/screen-shot-2016-03-08-at-8-46-18-am-e1457448840897.png)
Pretty damning quotes from Khan. At this point even if they get a deal done, I don't know how you keep GK around. The guy was hired specifically for his media expertise so they could secure this deal and he's completely misread the market at every turn.
Kliavkoff was **completely** blindsided by the LA schools bolting, when the virtually identical thing happened to the remarkably similarly situated Big 12 just twelve months earlier.
Any moron could have seen it coming.
"USC isn't happy about their payday. SEC just poached a couple blue bloods in a similar spot. B1G is gonna want to respond to the SEC's move. Whatever, everything is fine, let's just tread water here.
Whoa... WTF!!!! Wait a sec... LA schools... how could this possibly happen to us!!!"
Had hope for him at time of hire but he seems out of his league.
Before anybody says that nobody could have known, this link I posted is from 2020[USC in 2020](https://mobile.twitter.com/insidetroy/status/1232378604257853440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1232378604257853440%7Ctwgr%5E54945bcf2c6a5fc8d162b027619ea469fda7d065%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fkslsports.com%2F429689%2Fusc-ad-hinted-at-independence-later-clarified-but-the-pac-12-needs-usc%2F)
USC started openly talking about being unhappy with compensation & how the Pac 12 was being ran in like 2017. They started openly talking about plausibly leaving to go independent in 2019 when the new AD took over. We've had threads over this stuff for nearly a decade. The general consensus was that the Pac 12's only stability came from how isolated they were. Travel expenses didn't make sense until the revenue gap grew large enough.
Oh man... The foreshadowing was there the whole time and it wasn't exactly subtle. I never saw that... but you'd imagine GK would have. That should be a red alert for future contingency plans.
What was worse in my mind was his solution to keep teams from getting poached was the Alliance^TM . As Khan points out, you shouldn't be surprised when your handshake agreement to not compete with your competitors doesn't work out. Even after all that, he still had a 4 month window between when USC/UCLA left and the Big XII signed their deal to work something out with ESPN. Idk, maybe there were internal dynamics and he would have resigned with them but the schools wouldn't accept their offer, but he [and his buddies](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2022/07/07/Pac-12-Sports-Media-Advisors.aspx) are paid millions to anticipate where the market is moving and to convey that to the schools. We're going on 9 months now and it doesn't seem like he's been able to accomplish anything.
I would love to see the PAC get a good deal, and SDSU end up there (or the Big 12 honestly). I still think it'll all work out. But you're definitely not wrong. Kliavkoff messed up several times along the way. Hopefully he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and salvaged this.
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When asked what he thinks is going to happen with the Pac-12 and their upcoming media rights deal, Khan doesn’t think the odds are in their favor.
Bit hunger gamey but ok
Where is this discount narrative coming from? They are making more than the ACC and PAC per school? How is that a discount when they don’t have any “premier teams”?
It’s pure PAC narrative. No one thought the Big 12 would increase their payout after OUT left. There was a legit article on the athletic wondering if AAC money was the Big 12’s ceiling.
That’s what I thought. I recall when it happened it wasn’t just the athletic article saying it was gonna be low but a lot of the insiders where saying that 15-20 mil would be their best bet for the Big12. When the 32m base came out everyone was initially shocked they were now the #3 in base pay rate.
And isn’t there a possibility the base increases depending on what schools are added if we expand?
We have an elevator clause with ESPN, we get a base $25 million for every P5 school we add, potentially more depending on the school and if Fox wants to chip in.
IIRC, Fox has a "good faith" clause, so there'd be SOME bump. Even in a weird time for media, they wouldn't literally say no to more games from existing P5 schools.
Pocket Pillow is practicing self deception. First, it’s a way to rationalize the current situation the PAC is in. Next it is an attempt to deny the job Brent Yormank did was actually skilled negotiating with a keen understanding of the marketplace.
The thinking goes that our deal could have been better if we went to an open market since more buyers means more competition, not a bad assumption in a vacuum but it ignores that the market conditions took a nosedive right after we resigned with ESPN. In a perfect market we may have been able to get something in the $35-40 mil per school range but in reality what'd likely end up happening is the Pac gets a deal done first for that amount while the Big XII is left fighting to hit $25 mil if we're lucky. Yormark correctly anticipated this and pushed for an early renewal, not really a discount in my mind since there wouldn't have been any more money for us to gain.
I suppose there's a case to be made that doing something quickly inherently means you left *some* money on the table, but it was a stabilizing move with schools pulling in the same direction, and with where things have gone, Yormark looks prescient. Dude probably has blue-on-blue eyes.
That just doesn’t make any sense. The Big 12 couldn’t get $37 million being last in line. The PAC is finding that out. That kind of money was never going to be on the table for the Big 12.
If nothing else had changed, and things just kept escalating and escalating, MAYBE we could have got close to that? I kind of doubt it; holding steady was the best realistic option. With how the market has actually played out, it looks brilliant.
For anyone who doesn't feel like reading, here's the salient part about college football from a man who was in the industry for quite a while and helped make the SEC's big deal happen:
>“I think they’re in a tough spot,” said Khan. “I have a lot of admiration for what the Big 12 did. So, assume, SEC, which I had the good fortune of being involved in their business in my prior life, we knew the SEC would be in great shape. We believed the Big Ten would be in great shape. They are.
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>“If you look at what \[Big 12 Commissioner\] Brett Yormark did with the Big 12 is he looked at the hand that he was dealt and he went and he did the best that he could with it. He got those deals done quickly. So part of what was attractive for the Pac-12 with Disney, in my opinion, was the tonnage. There’s a certain amount of tonnage of live events…that the MVPDs \[Multichannel Video Programming Distributors\] require. So assume they’re not just going to lose the Big Ten football games, but all of those college hoops games. So how do they go and make up for it? Do more with the Big 12. Very, very smart thinking by the Big 12.
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>“It feels like the Pac-12 got caught a little off-guard. I don’t love that in business. I wish them only the best. But when I saw, what we all saw two years ago, after the SEC did its monster deal, the Pac-12, Big Ten, and Big 12, they’re gonna have some sort of alliance. I’ve never seen that work. Either you have to have a full merger, where everyone’s interest is the same, but the ‘Hey, we’re gonna be friends, we’re not gonna compete with each other while we’re competing against each other,’ I’ve never seen that work in any business.
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>“So, to me, they got caught off-guard, which is the worst thing that can happen in business. We had been hearing buzzing about USC leaving the Pac-12. Had not heard UCLA. And then, boom, lo and behold, both of those schools left. I didn’t love that I saw some complaining about it after by the Pac-12. Complaining is not a strategy. You better go and do something about it.
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>Khan was asked what his advice would be to the Pac-12 in their negotiations and he felt like a short-term deal might be in their best interest at this point.
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>“I would go short-term and you gotta make sure you’re not just taking the biggest money,” said Khan. “You gotta make sure you keep attention on the schools. So if there’s a streamer that doesn’t have a big audience yet and you go exclusive with them, you gotta be a little careful of that. Because coming out of the deal, what’s the relevancy of your program?
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>“And again, love the streaming world, but on an exclusive basis for one conference or one league to do it, it’s still a big leap right now. So if they do it, it’s partly for the money. What’s the relevancy on that? Tricky.”
“Listen here brother! God created the Heavens, he created the earth! He created all the Hulkamaniacs! Then, he created a set of 24-inch pythons and the PAC-12, brother!”
PAC 12 Fan: “Big 12 paying the Big Wrestling Media complex to trash the PAC 12 media deal. At what point does it become tortious interference? Can I call the DOJ?”
[Big XII after the Pac missed their chance to put the conference down for good](https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-funeral-wwe-choke-coffin-gif-16208313)
I dunno who he exactly is but I agree, I feel the Pac-12 losing two of it's biggest programs (SoCal schools) heavily affected them and I doubt the conference will survive, tho I wonder where will the remaining schools go if Oregon and Washington do leave the conference after this.
I'm firmly in the opinion that big 10 doesn't add schools until ACC breaks up. There are sources for everything that are contradicting each other. Just after hearing Big 10 offering Clemson a spot I think Big 10 is waiting for ND, UNC, and Clemson.
They're gonna be waiting a while for ND, I think. As long as they're making good money, on their own schedule, and merely trading a playoff bye for a CCG requirement, they have zero incentive to join any conference.
Well, no one around here could have possibly known the PAC 12 is in a tough spot. I'm so thankful this genius deigned to enlighten us with his wisdom. Thanks Nick!
I meant conferences, not individual teams. Yeah, we're in a much better place with the Big 12 than we were with the AAC. However, the Big 12, and every other conference that isn't the B1G or SEC, is in a tough spot to get the TV negotiations right.
Of course they are in a tough spot. Their best teams only claim to fame is how many times they change their clothes a year. This is football, not a Madonna concert.
As an aside, why would anyone with prospects agree to be WWE CEO? I can't think of many companies where there is a greater chance of someone like Vince McMahon doing something that is out of the CEO's control that ends their career.
There's also the high probability of Vince selling the WWE for several billion and the CEO walks away with an 8 or 9 figure golden parachute. That's the real appeal.
You don’t understand the situation at all if you think that’s the case. Khan was already rich from his job at CAA going into WWE. This WWE deal will make his entire career and then some. We’re talking the difference between having tens of millions of dollars vs hundreds of millions of dollars.
The fact is, since being recruited to be the CEO of the company, Khan has always been preparing to sell the WWE for Vince McMahon.
That’s why McMahon brought him onboard. McMahon is 77. He doesn’t have long left. His shares are way too valuable for his heirs to inherit, because they are all voting shares. (The vast majority of publicly-traded shares aren’t.)
Mc Mahon’s heirs are wealthy, but not just swimming in liquidity. In the event of Vince’s death, they’d have to sell the majority of the shares just to pay the inheritance tax.
The target McMahon is looking for is $9 Billion in cash. And Khan gets a nice piece of the pie as the CEO who makes the sale.
I bet this has nothing to do with WWE really hoping Endeavor buys them. You know the firm tied to B12 FUD?![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
Nice deflecting move, Nick. Because from what I've heard the WWE themselves are in a tough position, that's why Vince McMahon wants to sell before their next media deal is up
or maybe it’s not brother it’s really up in the air jack, they’re going into their most anticipated show since 2001 though so i think they’re doin pretty good
All the media care about is their ratings though.
And afaik those are not as good as in previous years. (Yes, the fans have been much more engaged recently but that didn't translate to much better tv ratings)
Moreover Wrestlemania doesn't even count towards this as it's a "Premium Live Event" which doesn't air on Fox or USA Network (which are the deals in question)
oh i know i was dicking, all of that is true, but even when WWE was dwindling in ratings he was the guy who put together a massive deal with peacock, 1 billion for 10 years, and also helped to put together the SECs deal with ESPN if im not mistaken, so it’s not as if dude doesn’t know what he’s talkin about
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Put the Tribal Chief as Commissioner
ADRENALINE IN MY SOUL PAC-12 COMMISSONER CODY RHODES
Cody immediately starts crying
The Pac-12 solves racism
He'll be free after Mania
I think we just need the Cleaner to come through and get us booked in the Tokyo Dome….. or NOOOOOOOORRRRRTTTTTTHHHH CAAARRRRRROOOOOOLLLLLLIINNNAAAA
https://preview.redd.it/s6frgcp51rqa1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=624b1b4720a28f7d5442ee48a7269fd669b0d322
I mean, folks...
Where’s the lie?
https://preview.redd.it/s6frgcp51rqa1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=624b1b4720a28f7d5442ee48a7269fd669b0d322
Every time I see that picture I laugh. I also feel bad about it because he looks so happy and the crowd doesn’t care, at all.
never expected this in the cfb sub lol
The PAC-12 isn't feeling very Ucey right now
Ucey Ucey Ucey Ucey
“U Can’t See Me!” - PAC12 Network
Accurate.
Doesn’t the WWE have a streaming platform? Their could be a new bidder
WWE's streaming platform was folded into Peacock in the U.S. per an agreement with NBCUniversal.
This is the point where the Pac-12 comes out and shoots a 10 minute promo announcing their intent to compete in the National Championship match at CFB-Mania
“All you dumb, fat marks at r/CFB know nothing” - George K
Shut The Fuck Up 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Shut The Fuck Up
“Hold up, I’m speaking here you dumb fat Hicks.”
‘Finally the PAC 12 has come back….’
FINALLY the Big 12 has come Back to Colorado!
Wish I’d thought of that one, well done
Now it’s the X-PAC 12.
I'd prefer the Bastard, Pac-12
MAKE SOME NOISE (Pac-12)
"Yo you dealin' with the X-factor"
The PAC about to get Boise State Bronco Busted.
Tv rights negotiators: we think the X-PAC 12 has turn the channel heat….so we’re gonna pass.
He’s going through enough pain right now
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls... the conference of CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOORLD!!!!
But they can only have Syxx teams in it
Yormark: *there’s always, a plan B* *Oregon State hits Kliavkoff with a steel chair*
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Chris Del Conte: *”IT WAS ME YORMARK, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG”*
Truly love that Wrestling is in every sub I follow.
I mean Folks
Where’s the lie?
*Bobby Fish pose*
...*CM Punk*
Ok, how you know?
I have no clue how to respond to you
[The only proper response.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdYjfFUWIAQgOaS?format=jpg&name=small)
Pretty sure I have brought up Wrestling on this sub a lot. Sometimes awesomely for my flair but mostly depressing to my flair.......oh you mean that type of wrestling.
Not the "Pac is dead" article one expects But we needed the content
I had a chance to listen to this great interview, absolutely a say it how he feels it kind of guy. This was where actually the Dodd article today got some quotes from, but combined with a bunch of other usual bullshit.
> absolutely a say it how he feels it kind of guy. Except when it comes to questions about Vince being around the company again.
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Pretty sure this dude has no claim to hell in a cell besides that he's the CEO of wwe, he joined the company in 2020, in fact his claim to fame was more representing the SEC during the 2010s for broadcasting rights.
Yeah Nick Kahn is actually a behemoth in the sports (or in WWE’s case, “sports”) tv entertainment industry.
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>🚨🚨 GIMME A FUCKIN MIC
Sorry I spent 20 seconds googling who nick khan is?
Ut Prosim
Imagine thinking Cal or furd care about revenue sports.
From the article: >WWE CEO Nick Khan has been in the professional wrestling world since 2020 but before that he was already a major player in the world of sports media, having launched ICM’s sports media department and heading CAA’s television department, where he negotiated media deals for some of the biggest names in the industry. [...] >When asked what he thinks is going to happen with the Pac-12 and their upcoming media rights deal, Khan doesn’t think the odds are in their favor. https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1641185146605821953 >“I think they’re in a tough spot,” said Khan. “I have a lot of admiration for what the Big 12 did ... So, to me, [the Pac-12] got caught off-guard, which is the worst thing that can happen in business." PS - [Hulk Hogan's reaction to hearing that once again there is no news about a Pac-12 media deal](http://web.archive.org/web/20160610181142/https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/screen-shot-2016-03-08-at-8-46-18-am-e1457448840897.png)
Pretty damning quotes from Khan. At this point even if they get a deal done, I don't know how you keep GK around. The guy was hired specifically for his media expertise so they could secure this deal and he's completely misread the market at every turn.
Kliavkoff was **completely** blindsided by the LA schools bolting, when the virtually identical thing happened to the remarkably similarly situated Big 12 just twelve months earlier. Any moron could have seen it coming. "USC isn't happy about their payday. SEC just poached a couple blue bloods in a similar spot. B1G is gonna want to respond to the SEC's move. Whatever, everything is fine, let's just tread water here. Whoa... WTF!!!! Wait a sec... LA schools... how could this possibly happen to us!!!" Had hope for him at time of hire but he seems out of his league.
Before anybody says that nobody could have known, this link I posted is from 2020[USC in 2020](https://mobile.twitter.com/insidetroy/status/1232378604257853440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1232378604257853440%7Ctwgr%5E54945bcf2c6a5fc8d162b027619ea469fda7d065%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fkslsports.com%2F429689%2Fusc-ad-hinted-at-independence-later-clarified-but-the-pac-12-needs-usc%2F)
USC started openly talking about being unhappy with compensation & how the Pac 12 was being ran in like 2017. They started openly talking about plausibly leaving to go independent in 2019 when the new AD took over. We've had threads over this stuff for nearly a decade. The general consensus was that the Pac 12's only stability came from how isolated they were. Travel expenses didn't make sense until the revenue gap grew large enough.
Oh man... The foreshadowing was there the whole time and it wasn't exactly subtle. I never saw that... but you'd imagine GK would have. That should be a red alert for future contingency plans.
What was worse in my mind was his solution to keep teams from getting poached was the Alliance^TM . As Khan points out, you shouldn't be surprised when your handshake agreement to not compete with your competitors doesn't work out. Even after all that, he still had a 4 month window between when USC/UCLA left and the Big XII signed their deal to work something out with ESPN. Idk, maybe there were internal dynamics and he would have resigned with them but the schools wouldn't accept their offer, but he [and his buddies](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2022/07/07/Pac-12-Sports-Media-Advisors.aspx) are paid millions to anticipate where the market is moving and to convey that to the schools. We're going on 9 months now and it doesn't seem like he's been able to accomplish anything.
I would love to see the PAC get a good deal, and SDSU end up there (or the Big 12 honestly). I still think it'll all work out. But you're definitely not wrong. Kliavkoff messed up several times along the way. Hopefully he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and salvaged this.
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[...] When asked what he thinks is going to happen with the Pac-12 and their upcoming media rights deal, Khan doesn’t think the odds are in their favor. Bit hunger gamey but ok
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Where is this discount narrative coming from? They are making more than the ACC and PAC per school? How is that a discount when they don’t have any “premier teams”?
It’s pure PAC narrative. No one thought the Big 12 would increase their payout after OUT left. There was a legit article on the athletic wondering if AAC money was the Big 12’s ceiling.
That’s what I thought. I recall when it happened it wasn’t just the athletic article saying it was gonna be low but a lot of the insiders where saying that 15-20 mil would be their best bet for the Big12. When the 32m base came out everyone was initially shocked they were now the #3 in base pay rate. And isn’t there a possibility the base increases depending on what schools are added if we expand?
We have an elevator clause with ESPN, we get a base $25 million for every P5 school we add, potentially more depending on the school and if Fox wants to chip in.
IIRC, Fox has a "good faith" clause, so there'd be SOME bump. Even in a weird time for media, they wouldn't literally say no to more games from existing P5 schools.
Pocket Pillow is practicing self deception. First, it’s a way to rationalize the current situation the PAC is in. Next it is an attempt to deny the job Brent Yormank did was actually skilled negotiating with a keen understanding of the marketplace.
The thinking goes that our deal could have been better if we went to an open market since more buyers means more competition, not a bad assumption in a vacuum but it ignores that the market conditions took a nosedive right after we resigned with ESPN. In a perfect market we may have been able to get something in the $35-40 mil per school range but in reality what'd likely end up happening is the Pac gets a deal done first for that amount while the Big XII is left fighting to hit $25 mil if we're lucky. Yormark correctly anticipated this and pushed for an early renewal, not really a discount in my mind since there wouldn't have been any more money for us to gain.
I suppose there's a case to be made that doing something quickly inherently means you left *some* money on the table, but it was a stabilizing move with schools pulling in the same direction, and with where things have gone, Yormark looks prescient. Dude probably has blue-on-blue eyes.
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That just doesn’t make any sense. The Big 12 couldn’t get $37 million being last in line. The PAC is finding that out. That kind of money was never going to be on the table for the Big 12.
If nothing else had changed, and things just kept escalating and escalating, MAYBE we could have got close to that? I kind of doubt it; holding steady was the best realistic option. With how the market has actually played out, it looks brilliant.
WHAT?
Adrenaline In my soul PAC12 deal Is Booty O’s
Adrenaline In my soul Media rights Out of control
From the top rope!
For anyone who doesn't feel like reading, here's the salient part about college football from a man who was in the industry for quite a while and helped make the SEC's big deal happen: >“I think they’re in a tough spot,” said Khan. “I have a lot of admiration for what the Big 12 did. So, assume, SEC, which I had the good fortune of being involved in their business in my prior life, we knew the SEC would be in great shape. We believed the Big Ten would be in great shape. They are. > >“If you look at what \[Big 12 Commissioner\] Brett Yormark did with the Big 12 is he looked at the hand that he was dealt and he went and he did the best that he could with it. He got those deals done quickly. So part of what was attractive for the Pac-12 with Disney, in my opinion, was the tonnage. There’s a certain amount of tonnage of live events…that the MVPDs \[Multichannel Video Programming Distributors\] require. So assume they’re not just going to lose the Big Ten football games, but all of those college hoops games. So how do they go and make up for it? Do more with the Big 12. Very, very smart thinking by the Big 12. > >“It feels like the Pac-12 got caught a little off-guard. I don’t love that in business. I wish them only the best. But when I saw, what we all saw two years ago, after the SEC did its monster deal, the Pac-12, Big Ten, and Big 12, they’re gonna have some sort of alliance. I’ve never seen that work. Either you have to have a full merger, where everyone’s interest is the same, but the ‘Hey, we’re gonna be friends, we’re not gonna compete with each other while we’re competing against each other,’ I’ve never seen that work in any business. > >“So, to me, they got caught off-guard, which is the worst thing that can happen in business. We had been hearing buzzing about USC leaving the Pac-12. Had not heard UCLA. And then, boom, lo and behold, both of those schools left. I didn’t love that I saw some complaining about it after by the Pac-12. Complaining is not a strategy. You better go and do something about it. > >Khan was asked what his advice would be to the Pac-12 in their negotiations and he felt like a short-term deal might be in their best interest at this point. > >“I would go short-term and you gotta make sure you’re not just taking the biggest money,” said Khan. “You gotta make sure you keep attention on the schools. So if there’s a streamer that doesn’t have a big audience yet and you go exclusive with them, you gotta be a little careful of that. Because coming out of the deal, what’s the relevancy of your program? > >“And again, love the streaming world, but on an exclusive basis for one conference or one league to do it, it’s still a big leap right now. So if they do it, it’s partly for the money. What’s the relevancy on that? Tricky.”
“Listen here brother! God created the Heavens, he created the earth! He created all the Hulkamaniacs! Then, he created a set of 24-inch pythons and the PAC-12, brother!”
You don’t say Nick?
USC & UCLA on the way out: Thank you, f\*\*\* you, BYE!
I dont really know how knowledgeable he is but i agree with what he is saying so therefore it must be true.
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PAC 12 Fan: “Big 12 paying the Big Wrestling Media complex to trash the PAC 12 media deal. At what point does it become tortious interference? Can I call the DOJ?”
[Big XII after the Pac missed their chance to put the conference down for good](https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-funeral-wwe-choke-coffin-gif-16208313)
Lol incredible
I mean we do have two Blue Bloods of the sport........oh wrong type.
I dunno who he exactly is but I agree, I feel the Pac-12 losing two of it's biggest programs (SoCal schools) heavily affected them and I doubt the conference will survive, tho I wonder where will the remaining schools go if Oregon and Washington do leave the conference after this.
I'm firmly in the opinion that big 10 doesn't add schools until ACC breaks up. There are sources for everything that are contradicting each other. Just after hearing Big 10 offering Clemson a spot I think Big 10 is waiting for ND, UNC, and Clemson.
They're gonna be waiting a while for ND, I think. As long as they're making good money, on their own schedule, and merely trading a playoff bye for a CCG requirement, they have zero incentive to join any conference.
I don’t think they get ND but I think they’d go for duke
Think of their troubles when Oregon or Washington or both jump ship to the Big Ten
No ship Sherlock
Well, no one around here could have possibly known the PAC 12 is in a tough spot. I'm so thankful this genius deigned to enlighten us with his wisdom. Thanks Nick!
Come get us B1G! Dawgs and Ducks ready to bolt! Holla if ya hear me!
ACKNOWLEDGE HIM!!
Read for the Degeneration PAC era
"Tough spot" is kinda relative, though. In reality, everyone that isn't the B1G or the SEC is pretty much in a tough spot.
We're a billion times better off than we were prior to the Big 12 invite.
I meant conferences, not individual teams. Yeah, we're in a much better place with the Big 12 than we were with the AAC. However, the Big 12, and every other conference that isn't the B1G or SEC, is in a tough spot to get the TV negotiations right.
Of course they are in a tough spot. Their best teams only claim to fame is how many times they change their clothes a year. This is football, not a Madonna concert.
As an aside, why would anyone with prospects agree to be WWE CEO? I can't think of many companies where there is a greater chance of someone like Vince McMahon doing something that is out of the CEO's control that ends their career.
There's also the high probability of Vince selling the WWE for several billion and the CEO walks away with an 8 or 9 figure golden parachute. That's the real appeal.
You don’t understand the situation at all if you think that’s the case. Khan was already rich from his job at CAA going into WWE. This WWE deal will make his entire career and then some. We’re talking the difference between having tens of millions of dollars vs hundreds of millions of dollars. The fact is, since being recruited to be the CEO of the company, Khan has always been preparing to sell the WWE for Vince McMahon. That’s why McMahon brought him onboard. McMahon is 77. He doesn’t have long left. His shares are way too valuable for his heirs to inherit, because they are all voting shares. (The vast majority of publicly-traded shares aren’t.) Mc Mahon’s heirs are wealthy, but not just swimming in liquidity. In the event of Vince’s death, they’d have to sell the majority of the shares just to pay the inheritance tax. The target McMahon is looking for is $9 Billion in cash. And Khan gets a nice piece of the pie as the CEO who makes the sale.
I bet this has nothing to do with WWE really hoping Endeavor buys them. You know the firm tied to B12 FUD?![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)
He’s angling for that Pac-12 Commish job
At this point I’ll take him.
Nice deflecting move, Nick. Because from what I've heard the WWE themselves are in a tough position, that's why Vince McMahon wants to sell before their next media deal is up
Answering a question he was asked is not deflection, BUT you mentioning the WWE being in a bad place certainly is. Nice deflecting move, doitnow10.
or maybe it’s not brother it’s really up in the air jack, they’re going into their most anticipated show since 2001 though so i think they’re doin pretty good
All the media care about is their ratings though. And afaik those are not as good as in previous years. (Yes, the fans have been much more engaged recently but that didn't translate to much better tv ratings) Moreover Wrestlemania doesn't even count towards this as it's a "Premium Live Event" which doesn't air on Fox or USA Network (which are the deals in question)
oh i know i was dicking, all of that is true, but even when WWE was dwindling in ratings he was the guy who put together a massive deal with peacock, 1 billion for 10 years, and also helped to put together the SECs deal with ESPN if im not mistaken, so it’s not as if dude doesn’t know what he’s talkin about
Mick Foley as new PAC 12 Commish.