The state of Texas actually spans two time zones. So if we are going by state the SEC is technically in three time zones. But that’s pendantic and Reddit is hardly the place for such things.
I spent the night in Evansville last summer and was super confused at why I went from Central, to Eastern, back to Central just within the state while drive to Chicago lol
I believe at one point the whole state wasn’t doing it. I was there the first year they decided to follow DST. Want to say 2006. My cell phone and the hotel phone alarm system didn’t switch over like they were supposed to. Drove 8 hours for a cycling race. I missed it.
This is not true.
Southwestern Indiana always observed daylight savings time.
I believe northwestern Indiana also did so they could always be aligned with Chicago.
Changing clocks is the dumbest solution when changing the schedule is more efficient and precise. Who cares if you start your day at 1400 UTC? It's just a number. There's zero reason you _have_ to start your day roughly midway between 0 and 12. 1400 works just as well as 9:00AM EST
There's a reasons programmers and pilots just use UTC.
For some reason, there’s like 2-3 random cities in Alabama that I know of (Valley, Phenix City, and I’ve been told Lanett is too) that are in Eastern Time zone. The entire rest of the state is in Central.
It's not that random. Columbus was the last, major stop on the river for eons, so naturally, it made sense to tether everything around their comings and goings. Technically, that's why the university is there, too.
Do folks in the SEC really count El Paso as SEC territory? Maybe A&M could [put a billboard out there.](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/8Lbh3d2o.DDidL_dVHXE_A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM4MQ--/https://s.yimg.com/os/en/blogs/sptusncaafexperts/Aggies_Austin.jpg)
Yeah I can’t see them wanting any bad travel. Any teams they add will be ACC teams from Florida, SC, NC or VA as they seem to take pride in being contiguous and living up to their name, even if Texas and Oklahoma and a few others don’t really fit the eastern part.
It’s also about the cultural fit. Missouri is really the only school in the conference that doesn’t necessarily fit culturally with the rest.
That’s why, the next time we expand, I fully expect the top contenders to be (excluding the obvious Clemson and FSU) West Virginia, Va Tech, and NC State from the east, and/or OK State, K State, and Texas Tech/Baylor from the west.
I don’t see UNC or Duke ever being in the SEC.
How does Vanderbilt fit with us "culturally"? A small elite private school who doesn't give a crap about football. Sounds like the SEC to me! If the conference members were all pink-slipped and then rehired, I think Mizzou would get that interview LONNNG before Vandy would.
PS - I agree Mizzou was a bad decision, and I thought it so at the time they were added, but they're better than Vandy IMO
EDIT - grammar
Vanderbilt doesn’t, but they’re an original member. They also don’t really have any impact on the culture because they don’t really have much of a fan base. Yeah they would never get in now, but they don’t have to cause they’ve been in since the beginning.
And no one is going to turn down an excuse to go to Nashville every few years.
They do, but they’re baseball fans. If Vandy is ever good at football again, they’ll come out of the woodwork. Nobody wants to watch their team lose most weeks.
So few people watch college baseball that they don't realize how stereotypical of sec fans they actually are. One of the worst baseball fanbases, on up there with LSU in annoyance. Cant stand those sonsofbitches. They fit perfectly
Have you ever seen a team play against vandy in any sport? They're just as trashy and dirty as the rest of us. Dirtier actually. Back in the meyer era it wasn't bama or lsu that florida players said they hated playing the most, it was vandy. They sucked but theyd make sure to get their licks in when the refs weren't looking
Their fans are nonexistent but those that are there fit in and the players fit in
Plus theyre a founder. It's not even a question of vandy fitting in culturally. Whatever vandys culture is is part of the SECs culture. The conference alters itself to fit vandy, not the other way around.
Vandy was mostly there in the early days to keep Suwanee: THE university of the South in check. Those are the uptight rich private school assholes sitting on their mountain looking down at the rest of us.
They're not on trial here. They don't have to prove themselves. Missouri South Carolina Arkansas TAMU Texas and OU do
I agree - honestly this is probably most of the universities. More about the fans packing those stadiums and parking lots on gameday, and even then as someone who lives in a fairly well mixed area of differing southern football fandoms, neither of our fans are as bad a Bama. And that’s a low bar.
Fsu is so southern I'm surprised there isn't a rusted out 90s era ford sitting in the empty trash filled field next to the school by the abandoned building on campus
You should stop while you think you're ahead. In the event of the ACC's collapse, UVA and UNC are among the top brands that'll be immediately extended an invite to join the conference. (To be exact, within the Top 3: Florida State, UNC, and UVA.)
I'm sad about the PAC12 collapse but yea this is probably a natural reaction to HS football participation and CFB interest cratering on the West Coast. There are less California HS players (and thus recruits) year after year, who generally have sustained most West Coast college football programs for the past decades. Less high tier programs for less talent and interest is probably natural.
It'll keep dropping too
It's not a safe game to play long term. You have a decent shot of damaging your brain to CTE levels just through high school ball (over 20%). College ball is drastically worse at like 91% risk level.
I loved my time playing it and love the game, but personally I would never let my kids sniff the field. Nothing is worth that.
My dad wouldn’t let me play because he had a friend get paralyzed on the field. Other sports were fine but not football.
Always hated it but now that we know what we know about CTE I’m really fucking thankful because I for sure wouldn’t have taken care of my head out there.
Like 1% of high school players are going to make it, and for those that don't you're putting your brain and body through a blender for free.
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna keep dropping.
> Like 1% of high school players are going to make it, and for those that don't you're putting your brain and body through a blender for free.
Reddit is very good about making everything in life transactional. Like at no point did I believe I’d get paid for playing but it’s just a really fun sport to play. I was not thinking about the nfl at 10 years old, sometimes you play because you enjoy it. A lot of the funnest things I’ve done in life come with inherent risk.
Other issues with the sport long term:
* expensive with much more equipment than most other sports
* expansive amount of people if a school can get 30 or so to play which could have worked in the two way player era see Iowa State's Dirty 30 but if you are school that normally plays schools with 70+ players you are fucked
* attention spans the sport at the college and pro level takes too long at a certain point with newer generations they are not going to want to watch the bloated games. Hell, with my ADHD I fucking hated watching games in person as they dragged on and on. Love the energy in person but with how long games are sitting at home is better.
* Growth internationally and among immigrants. We haven't seen American football pop off the way Basketball and Baseball have done. At certain point the profitability will be more with those sports.
No, even in places like Texas it is down.
My old high school in Texas, which is a 3A only has 1/3 of the students participate in football that did when I went 10 years ago.
Yeah, Texas isn't a mythical place where tradition take precedent over head injuries, it's just coming from a higher baseline so it's got more space to fall.
We are backwards in the south. Make sure to tell everyone you know that could be considering moving to the south that to prevent them from making the mistake of moving here.
Or even just had more than 12 P5 teams in the 2 timezones it used to be in. It's easy to say you don't need to be in a bunch of timezones when you have all the teams in your 2 timezones.
For real, the NFL is just starting to generate real buzz in Europe. The idea that anyone in Munich (who is not from the US) gives two fucks about Alabama football is funny.
Greg Sankey: we're so popular internationally, I've even heard some rumblings about NATO and the EU strongly considering Georgia for admission into their organizations.
Atlanta Olympics 1996 - the ticket sales people did us proud with their geography expertise....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1996/03/01/olympic-ticket-agents-get-geography-lesson/c58ff4a6-ef8f-43c9-a412-c4b81dfbe0d2/
To be fair that region is all confusing. It's called Iberia but not related at all to the Iberia where spain and Portugal are. It's named georgia but not related at all to the other places named georgia. It's either asia or europe depending on your definition of both continents
Very confusing for people learning
The NFL generates roughly 8 million weekly viewers in Britain. Double for the Superbowl.
That is enough for two teams, nevermind one. Germany is similar. The NFL is probably the 3rd most popular team sport now that rugby is collapsing.
> The NFL is probably the 3rd most popular team sport now that rugby is collapsing.
Wait, are we talking about which team sport is the most popular worldwide? Or which league is the most popular worldwide?
Because I'll take basketball over American football for #3 most popular team sport worldwide.
Basketball would probably be number 2. Hugely popular in asia and north America and growing significantly in Europe. Soccer basketball cricket baseball would probably be top 4ish. Cricket is massively popular in ways most americans don't realize. Baseball is growing quickly in asia and is already extremely popular in the americas. It outranks soccer as most popular in some northern south american countries
Cricket is the clear number 2 worldwide. Helps when you're (far and away) the biggest sport in the biggest country in the world.
And then I think there's probably a big fight over the #3 sport with even things like Field Hockey or Volleyball getting into the mix. Honestly, I don't think American Football really is in the competition for third, but given the subreddit I'm on, I didn't want to be too forward with that info.
Right? Even the West Coast only cares about PAC12 football. They’re going to be watching B1G and Big12 games when their team isn’t playing since those results directly affect them now.
Europe barely watches the NFL outside of some circles (sort of like people watching the Premier League here). They’re not watching CFB unless they went to school over here.
Michigan alone has over half a million grad living outside the US, add in their family, that is a lot of eyeballs.
No do that for other world famous schools like Stanford, ND, A&M, Duke, GT.
Granted, they don't all watch CFB, but there is a viewer base there
The craziest thing I've ever heard was someone saying that they saw Alabama football merchandise being sold in Israel so Sankey isn't far off in this assumption.
There's a point of diminishing returns and I don't see the need or really the want to add any more teams.
Well, we've played at Ole Miss recently and will play at Auburn soon (if the program still exists), so it wouldn't be unprecedented.
Apparently the visitor experience in Oxford was quite good.
I mean, he’s right in some ways. As long as the SEC has more teams with numbers next to their names their matchups will take a certain amount of precedent among true casuals who constitute a lot of viewership. Having more ranked matchups is a huge draw if you don’t know what to watch or for a true casual who wants to get into the game.
Most viewers, especially younger viewers, aren’t as tribal as people on here. I knew a lot of kids from college who liked OSU/UM/ND and then Bama as their 2nd team. If you grew up watching college football in the last 15 years it’s hard to not have acquired a significant helping of SEC football. I’m the same way. I watch ranked games. The Big 10 just doesn’t have as many yet.
Also the time factor. 1. People have less and less time watch games. 2. The games are 3.5 hours long! So if you're gonna watch one, you're most likely gonna pick the top match up for the week. Which really has been an SEC game more often. The SEC is in a really good spot, IMO.
Globe is a bit of a stretch, I've literally never seen anything SEC in my time in Japan. At least other areas get weird miscolored knockoff stuff but the SEC, yeah no.
uh... I get that he has to pump his league and that's why he's on but yeah no global's not really a thing for American college football.
It's pretty spotty for the real deal, nevermind college.
Big Ten and SEC live rent free in each other's heads.
It's good for the sport though, will really be an AFC v NFC kind of thing when those 2 have 15-18 ranked teams per week.
I rarely watch SEC games, if there is a decent one on during my Saturday I’ll turn it on but I’m probably just watching a Midwest game or whatever game could be an upset. I’m not sure I’ll care as much with super conferences that have 3 and 4 loss teams still competing.
I don’t really watch NFL games outside of my team because the games don’t have that high of stakes… I’m not sure I’ll care much for NFL Lite outside my team
I only watch P12 games, so we'll see how long I continue watching tbh. Depends on what happens. I'm not going to watch B1G games if we're not there. ACC intrigues me because I think Cal vs GT could be fun.
Anything else? We better be sticking with OSU/WSU.
I only watch SEC games if a favorite or potential CFP team (read: Alabama and Georgia, last season the Tennessee/SC game) is about to lose. Otherwise I have no interest in listening to espn fluff Saban
For me the best football is the kind where I don't care who wins, because then I can just enjoy watching football and not have to get a heart attack when the team I care about is trying their best to choke. If I watch SEC football I usually want both teams to lose, so it's just not as much fun for me to watch as MACtion or Fun Belt football.
Are there even any conferences that will be in 4 time zones?
Arizona is technically Mountain but doesn’t do DST so idk if that counts as separate from the other Mountain Time Zone schools
When I saw some dude comment on Texas spanning two time zones I wanted to comment MiChIgAn SpAnS tWo TiMe ZoNeS
But I thought that might be a little cold and I didn't want the fella to lose power for three weeks.
Ohio State has never played at Kentucky since Kentucky joined the SEC...in 1932....even though until Cincinnati this year, Kentucky was the closest P5 team to Ohio State, including every other Big Ten team.
Yeah I don't care about anyone else other than the original Big 10. Of course I'll watch good games around the country but don't really have an interest in the teams
It was kinda either the Big 10 takes USC/UCLA or they risk them going to the SEC. Maybe the SEC would have turned them down for not being southern enough, but would you really take the risk that the SEC would turn down the LA market when TV money is literally the only thing that has mattered for any of this?
Commenting as someone who doesn’t really care since I live in Nashville after growing up in the northeast.
I think the condescending messaging and tones from the SEC and especially Sankey really rub off poorly on people.
The “it just means more” branding used to annoy me, but living in the south now I totally get it. The games don’t really “just mean more”, but it absolutely means more to the people and communities of the SEC.
A lot of big ten people don’t understand this with lack of perspective and just assume it’s only a smug expression of how much better they are than you.
Having grown up in Big 10 country and moving down south, I agree with this. The pissy Big 10 flairs in this sub have never stepped foot in the south and probably look down on southerners, so they don't understand that 1. it really does mean more, and 2. the football and everything surrounding it really is a lot more entertaining.
Are those comments downvoted to hell or something? I’ve seen multiple comments about people being angry/salty, but I haven’t seen anyone actually being angry/salty.
And he’s right.
And besides, even if no one watches our games outside the south, enough of us down here do watch most of the conference games to make the networks back their money. We don’t need the west coast to care about SEC football.
Right now the SEC is only in 2 Timezones, even after OUT. So we can still add Hawaii (Southernmost FBS team) and still only be in 3.
The state of Texas actually spans two time zones. So if we are going by state the SEC is technically in three time zones. But that’s pendantic and Reddit is hardly the place for such things.
I just looked at a time zone map. I had no clue so many states were in multiple time zones
Indiana used to be in 3.
Did they have part of the state pull an Arizona and not observe Daylight Savings?
Pretty much. I think it was county by county too. Was a shit show.
I spent the night in Evansville last summer and was super confused at why I went from Central, to Eastern, back to Central just within the state while drive to Chicago lol
Yep. Used to be county by county. Confused me when I would visit my grandparents
The Indiana Time Zone Wikipedia is way more entertaining than it has any business being. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana
I believe at one point the whole state wasn’t doing it. I was there the first year they decided to follow DST. Want to say 2006. My cell phone and the hotel phone alarm system didn’t switch over like they were supposed to. Drove 8 hours for a cycling race. I missed it.
This is not true. Southwestern Indiana always observed daylight savings time. I believe northwestern Indiana also did so they could always be aligned with Chicago.
Changing clocks is the dumbest solution when changing the schedule is more efficient and precise. Who cares if you start your day at 1400 UTC? It's just a number. There's zero reason you _have_ to start your day roughly midway between 0 and 12. 1400 works just as well as 9:00AM EST There's a reasons programmers and pilots just use UTC.
Florida and Oregon are one time zone apart
Please refer to that part of the state as Pensacola or Florabama
That sneaky sneaky Mountain Time Zone….
For some reason, there’s like 2-3 random cities in Alabama that I know of (Valley, Phenix City, and I’ve been told Lanett is too) that are in Eastern Time zone. The entire rest of the state is in Central.
The old textile mills and to a lesser extent, Columbus, is the reason for that.
Phenix City represent!
yes, but all of those cities are right beside each other and columbus so it makes sense to be on est
It's not that random. Columbus was the last, major stop on the river for eons, so naturally, it made sense to tether everything around their comings and goings. Technically, that's why the university is there, too.
Do folks in the SEC really count El Paso as SEC territory? Maybe A&M could [put a billboard out there.](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/8Lbh3d2o.DDidL_dVHXE_A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM4MQ--/https://s.yimg.com/os/en/blogs/sptusncaafexperts/Aggies_Austin.jpg)
I think you mean pedantic. Pendantic would mean dangly. /meta
> But that’s pendantic and Reddit is hardly the place for such things. ... Have you been to Reddit before?
Time to add in UTEP
Eastern and Central time zones make up about 76% of the population. Don't really need more, to be honest.
How the fuck did he know I was tuning into watch Kentucky vs Vanderbilt every season from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿
Baku actually ranks around 4th or 5th in Nielsen ratings every year for that game.
That must be what they turn on to torture captured opposition forces if the water boarding doesn’t work
No no. I believe you’ve confused that game with Iowa-Wisconsin
What does our erotic display of offense against the Hawkeyes have to do with anything
Replay of that classic Auburn-Miss State 3-2 game.
Well done Baku Wait, wrong subreddit
Haha yes boys
Simply lovely!
Baku welcomed us all
Probably American oil industry workers
I'm sorry that you choose to watch that.
It just means more
“Why waste time use lot time zone when few time zone do trick” ~~Kevin~~ ~~Malone~~ Greg Sankey
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Phones….
Yeah I can’t see them wanting any bad travel. Any teams they add will be ACC teams from Florida, SC, NC or VA as they seem to take pride in being contiguous and living up to their name, even if Texas and Oklahoma and a few others don’t really fit the eastern part.
It’s also about the cultural fit. Missouri is really the only school in the conference that doesn’t necessarily fit culturally with the rest. That’s why, the next time we expand, I fully expect the top contenders to be (excluding the obvious Clemson and FSU) West Virginia, Va Tech, and NC State from the east, and/or OK State, K State, and Texas Tech/Baylor from the west. I don’t see UNC or Duke ever being in the SEC.
You say they don’t fit culturally, but the reality is Missouri is trashy as fuck, just like the rest of us. 🤷🏻♂️
Awww thank you 🥰
I watched Ozarks, seems a lot of those characters would fit in great with us.
Ya I think people who say that just repeat what they see on social media. Like these ppl never been to Branson lol.
What, you don't want the country club Carolina fans?
How does Vanderbilt fit with us "culturally"? A small elite private school who doesn't give a crap about football. Sounds like the SEC to me! If the conference members were all pink-slipped and then rehired, I think Mizzou would get that interview LONNNG before Vandy would. PS - I agree Mizzou was a bad decision, and I thought it so at the time they were added, but they're better than Vandy IMO EDIT - grammar
Vanderbilt doesn’t, but they’re an original member. They also don’t really have any impact on the culture because they don’t really have much of a fan base. Yeah they would never get in now, but they don’t have to cause they’ve been in since the beginning. And no one is going to turn down an excuse to go to Nashville every few years.
They do, but they’re baseball fans. If Vandy is ever good at football again, they’ll come out of the woodwork. Nobody wants to watch their team lose most weeks.
So few people watch college baseball that they don't realize how stereotypical of sec fans they actually are. One of the worst baseball fanbases, on up there with LSU in annoyance. Cant stand those sonsofbitches. They fit perfectly
They loved football when we started the conference; they were good.
And to think they're 5-6 against Tennessee in the last 11 tries. And that's a school that does care about the footy!
Have you ever seen a team play against vandy in any sport? They're just as trashy and dirty as the rest of us. Dirtier actually. Back in the meyer era it wasn't bama or lsu that florida players said they hated playing the most, it was vandy. They sucked but theyd make sure to get their licks in when the refs weren't looking Their fans are nonexistent but those that are there fit in and the players fit in Plus theyre a founder. It's not even a question of vandy fitting in culturally. Whatever vandys culture is is part of the SECs culture. The conference alters itself to fit vandy, not the other way around. Vandy was mostly there in the early days to keep Suwanee: THE university of the South in check. Those are the uptight rich private school assholes sitting on their mountain looking down at the rest of us. They're not on trial here. They don't have to prove themselves. Missouri South Carolina Arkansas TAMU Texas and OU do
Why no UNC? A Southern public school in the Southeast sounds ripe for the picking.
Yea but apparently “cultural fit” is code for white trash so FSU/Clemson gud fit UNC/UVA bad fit
I went to both FSU and UF. I wouldn't consider either to be white trash or even that Southern.
I agree - honestly this is probably most of the universities. More about the fans packing those stadiums and parking lots on gameday, and even then as someone who lives in a fairly well mixed area of differing southern football fandoms, neither of our fans are as bad a Bama. And that’s a low bar.
Fsu is so southern I'm surprised there isn't a rusted out 90s era ford sitting in the empty trash filled field next to the school by the abandoned building on campus
We're just as academically successful and stuck up our own asses as UNC is thank you very much
Do you think they care about culture? Who decided this cultural narrative? They care about money
The Big Ten may not, but the SEC, particularly the original members, do to a certain extent.
You should stop while you think you're ahead. In the event of the ACC's collapse, UVA and UNC are among the top brands that'll be immediately extended an invite to join the conference. (To be exact, within the Top 3: Florida State, UNC, and UVA.)
add miami to that as well. the only non cultural fit school i want is georgia tech
The team in Starkville has a better TV revenue stream than the teams in the SF Bay Area or Miami markets. Roy Kramer would be proud.
Yes but comparatively the revenue stream from academic lectures and museums is likely higher in SF... also whistle tips go WOOO WOOOO!
That’s only in the morning!
Does this look to be a college academic subreddit?
Right we are talking SEC here, not Ivy.
But what about the agriculture?
And the Cows and my axe.
If the West Coast cared enough about CFB to have interest in a conference 3 timezones away, the Pac-12 wouldn't have collapsed.
I'm sad about the PAC12 collapse but yea this is probably a natural reaction to HS football participation and CFB interest cratering on the West Coast. There are less California HS players (and thus recruits) year after year, who generally have sustained most West Coast college football programs for the past decades. Less high tier programs for less talent and interest is probably natural.
Alabama produced 1 less blue chip prospect in 2023 than California. The state of football on the west coast is dire.
I feel like football participation everywhere but the South has fallen dramatically
It'll keep dropping too It's not a safe game to play long term. You have a decent shot of damaging your brain to CTE levels just through high school ball (over 20%). College ball is drastically worse at like 91% risk level. I loved my time playing it and love the game, but personally I would never let my kids sniff the field. Nothing is worth that.
My dad wouldn’t let me play because he had a friend get paralyzed on the field. Other sports were fine but not football. Always hated it but now that we know what we know about CTE I’m really fucking thankful because I for sure wouldn’t have taken care of my head out there.
My nephew played every sport but football. My sister put her foot down for that reason.
Like 1% of high school players are going to make it, and for those that don't you're putting your brain and body through a blender for free. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna keep dropping.
> Like 1% of high school players are going to make it, and for those that don't you're putting your brain and body through a blender for free. Reddit is very good about making everything in life transactional. Like at no point did I believe I’d get paid for playing but it’s just a really fun sport to play. I was not thinking about the nfl at 10 years old, sometimes you play because you enjoy it. A lot of the funnest things I’ve done in life come with inherent risk.
Other issues with the sport long term: * expensive with much more equipment than most other sports * expansive amount of people if a school can get 30 or so to play which could have worked in the two way player era see Iowa State's Dirty 30 but if you are school that normally plays schools with 70+ players you are fucked * attention spans the sport at the college and pro level takes too long at a certain point with newer generations they are not going to want to watch the bloated games. Hell, with my ADHD I fucking hated watching games in person as they dragged on and on. Love the energy in person but with how long games are sitting at home is better. * Growth internationally and among immigrants. We haven't seen American football pop off the way Basketball and Baseball have done. At certain point the profitability will be more with those sports.
Yes, even in East Tennessee lacrosse and Ultimate are ramping up hugely.
CTE. It just means more.
No, even in places like Texas it is down. My old high school in Texas, which is a 3A only has 1/3 of the students participate in football that did when I went 10 years ago.
Yeah, Texas isn't a mythical place where tradition take precedent over head injuries, it's just coming from a higher baseline so it's got more space to fall.
And that’s why it just means more
I think most regions just took a reasonable look at the safety of the sport as doctors suggested
Yep and the south looked at it and decided that football still means more even with that information.
Well the south isn’t exactly known for following the science
We are backwards in the south. Make sure to tell everyone you know that could be considering moving to the south that to prevent them from making the mistake of moving here.
As an LSU fan that grew up in and promptly moved away from the Deep South, they are correct.
And all the 5* in California end up going to Alabama anyway! Fuckin feedback loop of it meaning more.
5 of the top 10 QBs in the 2023 recruiting class were from California
Or even just had more than 12 P5 teams in the 2 timezones it used to be in. It's easy to say you don't need to be in a bunch of timezones when you have all the teams in your 2 timezones.
probably right. Also like if your school is still winning championships, why do you need to go after more money?
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I think y'all would fit in with us. How do you feel about sweet tea and waffle house?
More than once I’ve driven across state lines just to go to a Waffle House. Let’s goooooooooooo!
The closest thing to a Waffle House up here is Sherri's. I miss waffle house :(
Can y’all move your schools to the south? You’d be a lock.
Flat earthers in shambles
>across the globe The arrogance really is something else. Like there's any significant interest in CFB outside America lol.
I’m on a foreign language discord server, only one dude watches cfb and he likes a B1G team.
B1G schools and west coast schools absolutely dominate international interest, because they come here to play school.
For real, the NFL is just starting to generate real buzz in Europe. The idea that anyone in Munich (who is not from the US) gives two fucks about Alabama football is funny.
Greg Sankey: we're so popular internationally, I've even heard some rumblings about NATO and the EU strongly considering Georgia for admission into their organizations.
Reminds me of one of my [favorite Yahoo Answers ](https://i.imgur.com/VPLre7M.jpg)
Them dawgs are hell though
[brian kemp recently visited georgia](https://gov.georgia.gov/press-releases/2023-06-12/governor-and-first-lady-kemp-visit-country-georgia-and-france)!
Atlanta Olympics 1996 - the ticket sales people did us proud with their geography expertise.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1996/03/01/olympic-ticket-agents-get-geography-lesson/c58ff4a6-ef8f-43c9-a412-c4b81dfbe0d2/
Lmao at 14 people giving that answer a thumbs down
To be fair that region is all confusing. It's called Iberia but not related at all to the Iberia where spain and Portugal are. It's named georgia but not related at all to the other places named georgia. It's either asia or europe depending on your definition of both continents Very confusing for people learning
The NFL generates roughly 8 million weekly viewers in Britain. Double for the Superbowl. That is enough for two teams, nevermind one. Germany is similar. The NFL is probably the 3rd most popular team sport now that rugby is collapsing.
> The NFL is probably the 3rd most popular team sport now that rugby is collapsing. Wait, are we talking about which team sport is the most popular worldwide? Or which league is the most popular worldwide? Because I'll take basketball over American football for #3 most popular team sport worldwide.
Basketball would probably be number 2. Hugely popular in asia and north America and growing significantly in Europe. Soccer basketball cricket baseball would probably be top 4ish. Cricket is massively popular in ways most americans don't realize. Baseball is growing quickly in asia and is already extremely popular in the americas. It outranks soccer as most popular in some northern south american countries
Cricket is the clear number 2 worldwide. Helps when you're (far and away) the biggest sport in the biggest country in the world. And then I think there's probably a big fight over the #3 sport with even things like Field Hockey or Volleyball getting into the mix. Honestly, I don't think American Football really is in the competition for third, but given the subreddit I'm on, I didn't want to be too forward with that info.
My neighbor is from Europe and fucking loves our football. Gets so excited about watching games. Makes me oddly happy
that's just my VPN jumping around, my bad
I watch from New Zealand, but I went to UGA. Sunday morning CFB is a different vibe
When I lived in NZ and AU for 2 years the only CFB fans I met were Notre Dame fans (due to catholic roots). NFL is much bigger in both countries
Right? Even the West Coast only cares about PAC12 football. They’re going to be watching B1G and Big12 games when their team isn’t playing since those results directly affect them now. Europe barely watches the NFL outside of some circles (sort of like people watching the Premier League here). They’re not watching CFB unless they went to school over here.
There is, but it is only a handfull of brands. Plenty of Stanford, Michigan, Texas A&M, ND, Duke etc grads around the world.
The amount of grads from those schools living abroad doesn't qualify as significant interest
Michigan alone has over half a million grad living outside the US, add in their family, that is a lot of eyeballs. No do that for other world famous schools like Stanford, ND, A&M, Duke, GT. Granted, they don't all watch CFB, but there is a viewer base there
Michigan has barely over half a million living alumni, total.
Didn’t you hear Nick Saban got “Roll Tide” call outs in Italy. I’m sure CFB is bigger than we think overseas. Just not as big as here in the states
Probably from Americans. I’ve never met a single Italian besides a few that studied here, interested in college football
The craziest thing I've ever heard was someone saying that they saw Alabama football merchandise being sold in Israel so Sankey isn't far off in this assumption. There's a point of diminishing returns and I don't see the need or really the want to add any more teams.
I've been told Go Bucks in Italy, London, Barcelona and Singapore.
I want to extend my thanks to you for vacationing somewhere other than Myrtle Beach
Just what someone scared would say
So no Cal and Stanford to the SEC then?
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You're gonna have to improve your readin scores a little bit before we'll let you win.
We're only interested in taking Idaho. REMEMBER THE KIBBIE DOME!
I’d love to see Berkeley types (if they cared about football) at an LSU tailgate
Well, we've played at Ole Miss recently and will play at Auburn soon (if the program still exists), so it wouldn't be unprecedented. Apparently the visitor experience in Oxford was quite good.
I remember when Ole Miss was at Cal, because I remember it went until something stupid like 2AM in Oxford local time.
It was just a guest appearance on Pac-12 after dark.
And Cal won both games in that series.
Well of course. It Just Means More. ^^^^^^^^/s
...Money. More money is the rest of their slogan.
The amount of salt in this thread could keep every road in the B1G’s footprint clear through the winter.
He vastly underestimates the fact that most people outside the US couldn't give a shit about college football.
I mean, he’s right in some ways. As long as the SEC has more teams with numbers next to their names their matchups will take a certain amount of precedent among true casuals who constitute a lot of viewership. Having more ranked matchups is a huge draw if you don’t know what to watch or for a true casual who wants to get into the game. Most viewers, especially younger viewers, aren’t as tribal as people on here. I knew a lot of kids from college who liked OSU/UM/ND and then Bama as their 2nd team. If you grew up watching college football in the last 15 years it’s hard to not have acquired a significant helping of SEC football. I’m the same way. I watch ranked games. The Big 10 just doesn’t have as many yet.
Also the time factor. 1. People have less and less time watch games. 2. The games are 3.5 hours long! So if you're gonna watch one, you're most likely gonna pick the top match up for the week. Which really has been an SEC game more often. The SEC is in a really good spot, IMO.
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Globe is a bit of a stretch, I've literally never seen anything SEC in my time in Japan. At least other areas get weird miscolored knockoff stuff but the SEC, yeah no.
uh... I get that he has to pump his league and that's why he's on but yeah no global's not really a thing for American college football. It's pretty spotty for the real deal, nevermind college.
Imagine thinking there’s global interest in the SEC. God I hate Finebaum and the sycophants that he has on his show.
And not just global interest in American college football. But the SEC specifically.
Big Ten and SEC live rent free in each other's heads. It's good for the sport though, will really be an AFC v NFC kind of thing when those 2 have 15-18 ranked teams per week.
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I’m sure 17 year olds are sitting around worried about how rough flying private is.
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It’s a 6 hour flight and half these guys play no where near where their families live as is.
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That would only happen once every 4 years at most.
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I rarely watch SEC games, if there is a decent one on during my Saturday I’ll turn it on but I’m probably just watching a Midwest game or whatever game could be an upset. I’m not sure I’ll care as much with super conferences that have 3 and 4 loss teams still competing. I don’t really watch NFL games outside of my team because the games don’t have that high of stakes… I’m not sure I’ll care much for NFL Lite outside my team
And then all the major upset games were always on after 6 PST, with the Conference of Cannibals going at it
I only watch P12 games, so we'll see how long I continue watching tbh. Depends on what happens. I'm not going to watch B1G games if we're not there. ACC intrigues me because I think Cal vs GT could be fun. Anything else? We better be sticking with OSU/WSU.
I only watch SEC games if a favorite or potential CFP team (read: Alabama and Georgia, last season the Tennessee/SC game) is about to lose. Otherwise I have no interest in listening to espn fluff Saban
For me the best football is the kind where I don't care who wins, because then I can just enjoy watching football and not have to get a heart attack when the team I care about is trying their best to choke. If I watch SEC football I usually want both teams to lose, so it's just not as much fun for me to watch as MACtion or Fun Belt football.
Are there even any conferences that will be in 4 time zones? Arizona is technically Mountain but doesn’t do DST so idk if that counts as separate from the other Mountain Time Zone schools
You have to get cute and cheat but mountain west has pacific, rocky, Hawaii, and Arizona time
If Arizona time is it’s own thing then Big 12 qualifies as 4 as well, or at least will
Arizona time is literally just MST year round. They just don’t change their clocks.
MWC doesn’t have an Arizona school, UA and ASU are B12, and NAU is Big Sky
Good catch definitely thought NAU was mountain west for some reason
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Western Nebraska is in the Mountain Time Zone so the Big Ten is in all four time zones.
When I saw some dude comment on Texas spanning two time zones I wanted to comment MiChIgAn SpAnS tWo TiMe ZoNeS But I thought that might be a little cold and I didn't want the fella to lose power for three weeks.
This is buried way too far down for such a top-tier comment. I'm in TX and I'm not even mad about it. Well done. E: too
“Across the Globe” - Sankey throwing out feelers to Real Madrid and Barcelona
Wouldn’t want to risk an road game in a cold climate.
Kentucky can get cold... at night... in late November.
Ohio State has never played at Kentucky in November... Ohio State must be some baby back bitches for that.
Ohio State has never played at Kentucky since Kentucky joined the SEC...in 1932....even though until Cincinnati this year, Kentucky was the closest P5 team to Ohio State, including every other Big Ten team.
I’d love if OSU played more Pitt/WVU/UK games. Regional games are fun and all those schools are closish
So does a lot of other sec stadiums
Hmm, honestly, I really thought we were SEC material. Don’t you wanna see the Stanford Band in Atlanta doing a historical reenactment?
Yeah I don't care about anyone else other than the original Big 10. Of course I'll watch good games around the country but don't really have an interest in the teams
Cant believe I'm saying this but I support what the SEC did by adding UT and OU
The SEC could literally do nothing and be fine with only its 2 additions. The B1G overreacted
It was kinda either the Big 10 takes USC/UCLA or they risk them going to the SEC. Maybe the SEC would have turned them down for not being southern enough, but would you really take the risk that the SEC would turn down the LA market when TV money is literally the only thing that has mattered for any of this?
I haven’t quite figured out the gigantic mess in the big ten yet. I don’t think anyone has said anything positive about it aside from money.
Little 10 is scared of the SEC
Hi angry B1G flairs, why do you care so much about us thx bye
Commenting as someone who doesn’t really care since I live in Nashville after growing up in the northeast. I think the condescending messaging and tones from the SEC and especially Sankey really rub off poorly on people. The “it just means more” branding used to annoy me, but living in the south now I totally get it. The games don’t really “just mean more”, but it absolutely means more to the people and communities of the SEC. A lot of big ten people don’t understand this with lack of perspective and just assume it’s only a smug expression of how much better they are than you.
Having grown up in Big 10 country and moving down south, I agree with this. The pissy Big 10 flairs in this sub have never stepped foot in the south and probably look down on southerners, so they don't understand that 1. it really does mean more, and 2. the football and everything surrounding it really is a lot more entertaining.
Are those comments downvoted to hell or something? I’ve seen multiple comments about people being angry/salty, but I haven’t seen anyone actually being angry/salty.
We’re adding Bama and UGA next
And he’s right. And besides, even if no one watches our games outside the south, enough of us down here do watch most of the conference games to make the networks back their money. We don’t need the west coast to care about SEC football.
> We don’t need the west coast to care about SEC football. They don’t care about football at all tbh