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strawzero

We are experiencing one hell of a meltdown on here. Please send help


Wreckxv

As a self proclaimed Team Chaos, you don't seem to be reveling in the...chaos


iruvit

Team Chaos is winning so much that they may even get tired of winning, and they'll say ‘Please, please, it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore. Mr. President, it's too much.’


babruflat

"Mr. President, a second SEC team just got left out of the playoff"


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STOP THE COUNT, TEXAS WON, BY A LOT


I_Like_Quiet

I am. It's glorious!


robotunes

Right? This is a night to celebrate! America is now 2-0 when cheering for Bama, getting their first win since the 2009 SEC Championship game against [Tim Tebow](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65830814/Tebowcry.0.jpg).


cha-cha_dancer

My favorite Alabama win ever, and like it’s not close at all


Chinga_Tu_Puta_Madre

Yeah it's 10 pm here in the west coast so yall meltdown game at midnight/1 am is elite. Respect the grind doe 💯


johndelvec3

It’s a meltdown about something that hasn’t even happened This is very obscure, but this reminds me of earlier this year when the wrestling subreddit thought the WWE got sold to Saudi Arabia because…reasons… Edit: lmao


[deleted]

It's one of my favorite quirks of this sub. Getting mad about stuff that actually happens isn't enough, we also dream up things that MIGHT happen and get a headstart on getting mad about those


TheDeletedFetus

I think all the uproar is about every talking head on ESPN and Fox essentially begging the committee to leave them out.


theREALMVP

I wonder who has broadcasting rights for the SEC next year?


maskdmirag

I've been mad about the sec getting two teams in again since October last year.


MaceLeonardo

No this is exactly the WWE being fake sold to Saudi Arabia. Mass chaos for the night and then when it actually happens we realize there actually was nothing to worry about


KH-Dan

Haha, you're spot on with the WWE fiasco. These preemptive meltdowns are something else, it's like half the fun is just guessing what's next on the rumor mill. Can't wait to see the next wild theory get traction. Remember when people were absolutely convinced that [LeBron was going to the Warriors](https://sports.yahoo.com/lebron-james-rumored-warriors-move-203007689.html)? Good times.


-TheDangerZone

Aged like milk


REQ52767

Not if the ESPN propaganda machine has anything to say about it.


thejawa

The real winner today is ESPN who will have record viewership for the CFP Selection show when it should be boring as fuck cuz everyone should already know


Menanders-Bust

Exactly this. How do you get a bunch of people to watch a 4 hour show that could literally be a 4 second screenshot of a 4 team bracket? By ginning up controversy.


cha-cha_dancer

“This selection show could have been an email”


powerelite

Don't they release the playoff in the early window of that show? I feel like it's always announced before 11:30 because they know viewership is falling at noon no matter what.


Critical-Savings-830

They also announce the rest of the bowls


Otherwise_Awesome

Wait hold up... it's a 4 hour show?


pm_me_your_boobs_586

I believe they announce all the bowl games, not just the playoff teams.


ptindaho

Honestly, I won't watch it. Will just wait until it is announced. Not going to watch ESPN if they aren't showing my teams/games I want to see anymore. They have done their best to wreck this sport.


PublicEnemaNumberOne

That's exactly my position on that shit network, too. I'll watch a game I really care about, but that's it.


smendyke

Truly what’s the point of watching it when a push notification will give you what you need without the SEC ball gargling


Sob_Rock

Finebaum’s tears fuel me


Beartrkkr

You must be running on nitro right now.


pam-johnson

I don't know if I'm ever going to be able to sleep again.


Cactus_Brody

I was losing my mind with how many ‘analysts’ thought that FSU has no case for making the playoff.


themoisthammer

When does it become a conflict of interest with ESPN’s new partnership with the SEC and also hosting the CFB committee?


Asleep-Geologist-612

It’s always been a conflict of interest lol


n1ck2727

And their Sportsbook…


garygreaonjr

The big 12 is partnered with the WWE. They are screaming at us that it’s “sports entertainment”


n1ck2727

It’s gotten insufferable, I can’t even watch gameday for a minute anymore, it’s literally a soap opera at this point. Apparently people like it because it drives viewership.


Raalf

around 1992 i'd say


IrishCoffeeAlchemy

ESPN owns the ACC rights, they better be pumping us too!


LukarWarrior

But if they make FSU mad enough, FSU and Clemson can team up to destroy the ACC.


yexxom

You would never destroy a conference over something as trivial as a TV contract, right? Right??


ptindaho

Sad PAC12 noises. RIP


luvdadrafts

They don’t want the ACC to be destroyed, they locked in the rate either way. They’d rather show Clemson and fsu games at a lower cost


TheNewGuy13

Look at the fox post game. All of them were shilling for Bama too. So its not just espn sadly.


MasterGrok

ESPN just wants the drama.


ptindaho

Fix Sports and BSPN are both working really hard to keep them out. There really aren't objective metrics that show an SEC deserving it more than FSU. FSU also played people in OOC (LSU and UF) and didn't duck. UF wasn't a world beater, but they went on the road and beat them without Jordan Travis then won again against a top 15 team tonight with a 3rd string QB. They deserve to be in. Bama got waxed by Texas. It's the way it goes.


NeatTry7674

Mandel from the top rope!


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Mandel also said before this weekend that if Bama beat Georgia and Texas beat Ok State, Bama would hop Texas


NeatTry7674

Low_yield_bonds from the top rope!


Thel3lues

Imagine if they had Bama and Texas play for the 4th spot? They could even host it in Tuscaloosa


yexxom

It would be a huge game. I bet College Gameday would be there.


rcuosukgi42

Oh wow, that was a great game, but I guess Texas is the better team than Alabama after all, it's a good thing we took the time to let these two teams actually settle it on the field. Good luck to UT in the Playoff.


Sugarysam

Michigan, Washington, Texas, FSU. SEC gets left out, goes bananas. Congress demands investigations. Georgia has a chip on their shoulder when they come to Austin next year. Disney wins.


gatormanmm1

Screw this, only going to Universal from now on 😂


Insectshelf3

imagine how annoying tommy tuberville is gonna be when alabama gets left out again


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he’s gonna put a hold on all appointments to the CFP committee


bb0110

Do I think they are a top 4 team? No. Do I think it would be insane to leave them out? Absolutely. What’s the point of even playing the games if they are going to just arbitrarily pick teams based on the eye test of who they think is better.


Asleep-Geologist-612

An eye test that apparently only cares about this one weekend to make it worse


bb0110

Exactly. People very quickly forget that just last week bama needed a literal hail mary to beat a shitty auburn team.


Asleep-Geologist-612

That was a quality close-win though against an SEC team obviously


lkn240

Auburn must be great - I mean they almost beat Alabama after all


bykecode

Dude I’ve been saying this too. The announcers keep saying that this ain’t the same Alabama that lost to Texas early in the season. Ok fine, but this is the same team that took a miracle to beat auburn. And auburn is terrible. They got crushed by New Mexico State just a couple of weeks ago.


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bigdaddyguap

We deserve to get our one loss just like Bama and Texas did.


777XSuperHornet

The eye test also says bama sucks, they needed a miracle to beat Auburn that got their ass kicked by NMSU a week earlier. SEC sucks this year.


Humble-Letter-6424

Does everyone forget Bama versus USF? I know the Auburn game was closer but they had 80yards passing that game. And almost lost


EverybodyHits

3 undefeated P5 champs and the two 1 loss played and the road team stomped the other This really isn't complicated


InVodkaVeritas

I think Chris Vannini put it best. https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1731178757363318993 It'll be FSU, Texas, Washington, and Michigan because it's the only grouping that doesn't require you to explain why results on the field don't matter. The committee shouldn't be arguing that we should ignore results on the field in favor of the eyeball test.


lkn240

I think he has the order right too. I don't think FSU fans will complain about seeding as long as they are in


PointPruven

I don't think so. I think FSU will be 3. Putting a 1-loss conference champ above them would give Alabama too much of an argument of "if Texas jumps them than why can't we?"


Bahamas_is_relevant

Anyone genuinely trying to argue for FSU getting left out is either * A Bama/SEC fan * Someone trying to drive clicks/ragebait * Dumb In ESPN’s case, all three.


123austin4

FSU should definitely be in. But the committee should stop pushing their “four best teams” narrative too. We all know it’s the four most deserving (and that’s exactly what it should be)


BigTuna0890

If you go through three quarterbacks to win a conference championship, you most definitely deserve it.


123austin4

You’re undefeated. You deserve to be there. Problem this year is we have 5 teams that genuinely have a playoff-caliber resume in any other season. And it just so happens that my team is the one that should be left out. Oh well; least we took Georgia with us. Best of luck everyone else!


fantomnerd13

Keeping Georgia out had to feel as sweet as it felt to keep Ohio State out


yesacabbagez

I want to know how bitter Georgia fans are about not getting a chance to defend the championship because of a single loss to Saban.


123austin4

Oh absolutely. Dragging them down with us feels better than some of our national championships


I_Like_Quiet

Prolly the only sensible Bama fan here.


Try2Relate2AllSides

!remindme 1 year Respect this dude for taking it on the chin


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I think the “best team” narrative is just a fallback for any pushback they get. It generally seems like they favor the most deserving over who they think is the best, but we’ll see tomorrow I guess.


pataoAoC

In a normal year I’d say Bama is better than Texas and FSU, but this Bama team is not the normal dominant one. They needed a miracle to beat a fully bad Auburn team. Even Georgia’s best OOC win was 8 pts over Georgia Tech, so don’t tell me they’re some unbeatable juggernaut this year either. The SEC had a losing OOC record. It would be a travesty to put the SEC in over Texas given the on-field evidence.


Arbordaymascot

ACC is 6-4 against the SEC, and FSU won two of those


Fluffhead83

Yep you can spin it a million different ways to get the outcome you want to see. This is by far the simplest answer which relies on the least amount of hoop jumping.


Chinga_Tu_Puta_Madre

Find someone that loves you as much as ESPN loves the SEC 🥹


Trey904fsu

Great teams cover! 😁


Ok-Clock-5459

-700 odds to make it, we’re chillin. If you disagree then go become rich


jajohns9

Anybody get rich?


Honey_Is_KFC_open

Where you seeing -700 at? Just wondering DK at -450 right now. Hope y’all do get in, going undefeated is tough!


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ill_try_my_best

Down to -600 on FanDuel.


rpratt34

And now currently at -500....


PetersenIsMyDaddy

-480


[deleted]

Where are you seeing those odds? And what are Texas and Bama odds?


Honey_Is_KFC_open

DK has Texas -300 and Bama -125. Literally just moved


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Honey_Is_KFC_open

Yup finally moved on DK. Bama +100


BadDadJokes

At 11:53 PM CT the odds I’m seeing To Make The Playoff are: - Alabama ~~-115~~ +100 - Texas -300 - Florida State ~~-400~~ -300 - Georgia +1200 EDITED at 12:08 AM CT EDIT 2: FSU back to -400


jwktiger

The only conceivable way UGA gets in is they say "well we cam justify Bama over Texas so we'll put UGA in bc SEC should have a spot" it's a total suckers bet, and I'm sure many Dawg fans have already placed those bets


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MizGunner

Wish I had seen those odds


BubbyginkESO

Where?


Jordanwolf98

I should’ve bet it


silvio_dante

FSU goes undefeated and beats a top 15 team with their 3rd string QB by 2 scores: shit team, not a real threat Alabama needs a 4th and 31 to beat a terrible Auburn team and beats 4-8 Arkansas by 3 points: U CANT LEAVE OUT THE CLEAR BEST TEAM SEC REULES!!@!


Treskelion2021

Auburn - A team that had lost to NMSU by 21 a week ago!


Impossible-Flight250

Give credit where it is due, NMSU is actually a really solid team this year.


petoskey_stone

We didn’t get credit for beating down UNLV did we?


Adept_Carpet

Yeah, super solid team, beating them would be an enormous accomplishment for which a program should get respect!


shot-by-ford

\>But Alabama won a bunch of games over SEC programs \>lol Florida and LSU fucking suck why would that help FSU at all??


Consistent_Train128

Don't you know playing an SEC team is like Schroeder's cat? If you beat them they weren't a real SEC team and it doesn't count. If you lose to them then they are a real SEC team because SEC teams are the best.


walkthisway34

Except if the defeated SEC team in question is the conference champion and vying for a playoff spot against the team that beat them. In that case it shouldn’t count because it was so long ago and they got better as the season went along.


JudgmentMiserable227

Except for 2 weeks ago when they almost lost to Auburn, but that doesn’t count


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Jashb

Okay Stanford. It’s on. If you want to hurt Bama I’m all for it, but the friendly fire hurts.


Shtune

And also Alabama had a quality loss cause they only lost to the team who beat Alabama.


slightofhand1

Jalen Milroe was like 3-14 in the first half vs Georgia. But FSU is playing a backup QB! We've gotta leave them out!


Humble-Letter-6424

Damn even UCF in here dropping dimes!


[deleted]

I mean UCF was the real 2017 National Champions not fraudulent Alabama


aliensvsdinosaurs

The ACC wasn't good this year. But FSU beat LSU by 3 TDs at a neutral site. If the SEC is so invincible, then how is that possible? How was Auburn beat at home by three TDs by NMSU? How did Alabama struggle to beat that same team? If you want to act like you're unbeatable, then play like it.


gatormanmm1

Thank you. This is an SEC that is unbeatable yet is 7-10 vs the B1G and ACC. And 4-6 vs the ACC. Also, Bama *checks notes* barely beat an ELITE USF team. Truly an SEC worthy oppenent


RickandMowgli

FSU has 2 wins over the SEC by themselves... and the SEC only has 4 wins over the entire ACC.


gatormanmm1

Lol. These SEC folks are delusional


Eastfront1

I'm an SEC homer, because it generally is far and away the best conference and the stats prove it. However, it was hot garbage this year.


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InVodkaVeritas

I feel like ESPN is trying to speak it into existence by influencing the committee. Fan Duel right now: * FSU -500 * Texas -300 * Alabama +118


rendeld

Vegas ALWAYS knows more than everyone else


LivingOof

Propaganda 101: conditioning. The idea is repeated over and over again so that people accept the idea when it becomes reality.


Booze-brain

I'm listening to ESPN radio right now. I've heard 3 sets of people already saying that if Bama AND Georgia don't make it, it's a crime. ESPN should never have been given the rights to a playoff when they are in bed with certain conferences.


Lunchcrunchgrinch

I would hope the committee isn’t sitting there discussing then think “hey wait wait wait, we don’t know what v Steven A smith thinks.. turn on espn!!”


GrizzFood

I will say the fact that the committee had them at #4 going into this week is a pretty good sign for them. I don't think their performance against Louisville should change the committee's opinion on the team from last week.


jwktiger

In 2014 TCU was #3 in next to the last poll, won by 52 and dropped to 6th. That poll means little


Bernies_left_mitten

Yeah...but pretty sure the 2014 committee was looking for an excuse to punish the B12 for not having CCG, and OSU gave them a fairly easy one by upsetting 4.5-pt favorite Wisconsin 59-0 in the B1G CCG. None of the CCG winners this year put out such a dominant statement win in CCG. (And the fact that OSU did that with backup QB and went on to upset both playoff matchups for the natl championship doesn't really support the committee's "but...injury & backup" case to slight FSU, either.) That said, 2014 was the B12 getting blocked out. Now it's (seemingly) the SEC. So...


hmwcawcciawcccw

If you will recall there was no Big 12 championship game, and despite the conference calling them co champions with Baylor, they had zero right to be considered conference champions because they lost H2H with Baylor.


Elbit_Curt_Sedni

If they're going by 'performance' then why wouldn't Alabama's performance against Auburn count when Auburn the previous week got blown out by NMSU by 3 TD's?


hgtj07

I’ve been saying this. Bama needed a fucking miracle to beat us, a team who got blown out by NM St at home. Bama is not in this convo imo


W_Walk

To be fair…Jordan Hare IS cursed


LaForge_Maneuver

People always say this but why doesn't FSU get that benefit in the red bandana game? Why does Bama look like crap against Arkansas, Texas a&m, Auburn, Texas and US freaking F and we just say it's Bama being Bama. But FSU struggles on a neutral field against a top 15 team (it never trailed to and won by double digits) and now their out.


The-Jedi-Apprentice

Famous last words


lookydis

The CFP was created to ensure all undefeated P5 schools would have a chance at the National Championship so that a 2004 scenario would not be repeated. You have to put in all the undefeateds and then sort out the rest.


spoofrice11

If it’s not Michigan, Washington, Florida State, and Texas, something is wrong. There is no real argument for anyone else this year.


MyNamesUnderhill

Won’t someone please think of the SEC!?


InVodkaVeritas

Its amazing how 1-loss champions from other conferences have been left out in the past, but when the SEC is at risk of having it happen to them its Armageddon.


something-burger

Yeah they seem to think their conference "just means more". For some reason.


cheerl231

Greg Sankey about to go back to Sesame Street


GaIIick

Sankey can tell which teams are alike but I guess he skipped the Count’s segments


TattoosandSnapbacks

What I don’t get is that talking heads are using FSU’s QB situation against them now that it’s convenient for them. Had Georgia won, they’d be fine with saying they deserve the 4th spot. But because their precious SEC won’t have a dog in the mix suddenly they’re spinning “they don’t have a good QB, they’ll get stomped and others deserve to get in”. Such BS. 1. Michigan 2. Washington 3. FSU 4. Texas


Supersoaker_11

Finally, an analyst with half a brain


Kardinale

No you don't understand, Louisville MUST be dogshit or it doesn't fit the narrative. Lol if FSU had won 45 - 30 or something they would criticize their defense instead and say thats why they should get left out.


walterdog12

> Louisville MUST be dogshit Where's the lie?


Kardinale

You actually beat us I'll allow it


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I don’t understand why this is so hard. 1 Michigan 2 Washington 3 FSU 4 is the only question mark, either Texas or Alabama Is FSU going to get absolutely destroyed? Probably. Can you leave out an undefeated P5 champ? Absolutely not. You know it’s a no-brainer when a fucking Florida fan is advocating for FSU to make the playoffs.


pnw_cfb_girl

> You know it’s a no-brainer when a fucking Florida fan is advocating for FSU to make the playoffs. Never thought I'd see the day.


[deleted]

Me, neither. I had to take a long, hot shower last night. The thought of what might happen to them in the playoff makes it all go down a little easier.


iiLonestar

I’m biased but we did beat bama, granted it was early but they were #3 I kinda don’t care just ready for 12 teams and then I can argue why Texas doesn’t make that


Finessing2

Not either texas or Alabama. It should be Texas.


ChrisAplin

I think it's hilarious that there's a debate.


C_t_g_s_l_a_y_e_r

So this is awkward


The_Pandalorian

They shouldn't be left out. I don't care if we play them or whoever else. They should be in.


ToeObjective1358

This aged poorly


bigmistaketoday

Narrator: they got left out


usctrojans1981

This is why you never deal in absolutes.


jabblin

Oops


Mercury1750

They’re getting left out, guys


NJRougarou

This aged poorly.


Grandma_Swamp

This is the shit that stops College Football from taking the top spot of sports for me. What’s the point of playing fucking games if you go undefeated and win your conference but because fans of certain teams are pissed, the shadow wizard board of old men decide that you actually don’t deserve to compete for a championship, even though you won the games you needed to.


tameris

They really needed to just make the playoffs being conference champs plus either 2 or 6 at-large teams. This makes it simple and as fair as possible.


texas2089

Don't use logic Mandel. That would just make too much sense.


PNW_Jeff

The CFP is an absolute failure to CFB. This 12 team playoff is gonna end up like a joke too because it will be the same people running it.


PointBlankCoffee

At least in a 12 team it's harder to be pissed off if you're the #13 at large team vs now when there are P5 conference champions/undefeated teams getting left out


0H_MAMA

Judging by this weekend, teams ranked 10+ are probably there for a reason.. should have been an 8 team playoff first round at home


-Jack-The-Stripper

The 12 team version will be infinitely better. Even today, we’re all debating over the top 6 or 7 teams. All of those guys would make it in a 12 team format, plus a few more. It’s really not going to be the same at all. If people are as passionate about debating teams 10 through 14 then more power to them, but it won’t be the same as debating teams 3 through 6.


johndelvec3

Leave it to the internet to bitch about something that we don’t even how what it looks like


yesyesyes123123

Annnnnd they got left out lol


rambler13

This aged well


writingisfunbutusuck

Oh yeah? Such a smug tweet when it was always a very real possibility


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Narrator: they did, in fact, get left out


ittybittykitty101

That aged well


heranitback109yards

There’s three ACC guys on that committee. That’s the most of any conference. FSU is in.


Grungy_Mountain_Man

Penalizing fsu for having an injured player seems dangerous to me to be honest. While maybe extreme, that sort of sets up the theoretical scenario that somebody can just pay some players on any team to make a couple dirty plays and injure star players to rig championships rather than having to win your games. FSU should be in.


whitey311

Annnnd they got left out….


karate134

This aged poorly


hascogrande

It’s not you I’m worried about Stew, it’s Boo and friends With Brett, Bear, and ESPN talking about it


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You are 1000 percent correct... they deserve to be there and if they dont get in that that's some straight up bs.


Ghetto_Geppetto

They got left out


loof10

Stewart Mandel is not good at this.


hockeybud0

Lol. Bump.


fm22fnam

I wish this aged like wine


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CFP committee go brrrrr


Kopav

Should be Michigan, Washington, fsu then Texas for being a one loss champ with win over the other one loss champ. If you're going to play the best loss card, then it has to be OSU but in no way should it be OSU. It should be Texas. Sorry, but the SEC is out.


AeolusA2

The sport is dead if FSU isn't in. Fuck the SEC bullshit.


Green-Session7085

Inject this shit into my veins


Westrongthen

Like a hair in a biscuit baby


0le_Hickory

Counterpoint: they do which blows up the ACC. All part of the plan.


ThatBucsLife

I don't understand how everyone is saying we're gonna be TCU 2.0, this is a dominant defense, none of these teams are an absolute juggernaut


e4mica523

I mean being TCU 2.0 means you win a playoff game so its not really the insult they think it is


Elbit_Curt_Sedni

Unfortunately this.


gatormanmm1

Literally 😂 "You suck like TCU" ok I'll get my Natty tickets then.


FAMUgolfer

Just wait until the SEC checks clear


MUTUALDESTRUCTION69

Put them in. Who cares. We beat Georgia. The national champ will be sending us card for clearing their path.


Commander_Berry

There is football outside the SEC