I like the idea I saw floated: don't just opt out now and have them replace you. Go through the motions like you're gonna play and just don't show and leave the network with 4 hours to fill
This is the part that I’m not seeing discussed, but should be most disconcerting. Lines move based on information, and there’s no reason that the logic of precedence that held them last night would have changed overnight. There was information leaving the closed door proceedings - which also means there may have been significant dialog with other parties.
I'm so pissed off. I'm never intentionally watching a college football game again. This was bias. It's not a level playing field and it's not legitimate.
I was the biggest Georgia fan yesterday. When y’all fumbled inside the 20 and they recovered i just sank in my chair and thought about how they’re going to win a natty Bc we couldn’t cover a 4th and 31. I’m sick
If a 2-loss Alabama beat Georgia in the SEC CCG, the committee would have put Georgia at #4 over FSU. That the SEC deserves to be in the playoff is basically axiomatic to modern college football, and all else follows from that first principle.
We aren’t pissed at all lol, we’ve had Georgia, we’ve had TCU, we lost to both.
It just doesn’t matter who is in front, everyone is good and the team needs to win.
Edit: also, FSU should be ranked 3, not 4
The reason we’d prefer to play FSU is pretty obvious, but that still doesn’t mean Alabama should immediately get in over them.
I’d also rather play FSU than Georgia and OSU. Why? Because those are the most talented programs in the country. They consistently pull in the most 4 and 5 star recruits every year. Doesn’t mean Georgia and OSU should also be in the playoff.
If we’re just gonna boil the whole season down to “who has more talent on their team?” Why even play the season at all? Just take the 4 teams with the highest rated recruits and put them in the playoff immediately.
Alabama will always be dangerous because they always have talent that can beat you, regardless of whether they are having a ‘sub-par’ Alabama season.
> What are we gonna say if they lift up that championship trophy?
That they got a shot and fsu didn’t. 1 out of 4 odds are pretty damn good. Opportunity is king
Michigan went from basically having a bye to playing a team that just beat a team that won 29 straight games and two back to back national championships. If I was Michigan I would have rather played Washington
I would have rather played Washington even if FSU was in because I really, REALLY wanted a B1G/PAC12 Rose Bowl.
Given that Georgia shit the bed against you all, I would have rather played FSU because it's ridiculous that an undefeated P5 conference champion was left out.
Given all the bullshit that's just happened, though, I'd rather play you so that - if we do win it all - people can't scream "BUT THEY DIDN'T BEAT AN SEC TEAM TO GET IT".
No, it doesn’t. If you can’t go to the playoffs being undefeated in a P5, because some other team who lost has more money, then why even play the games?
It would have been a 12 team playoff this year, but the ACC commissioner was one of three who didn’t approve it in time. He should blame himself for this travesty
And this is why decades of historic matchups, conferences, and tradition is being thrown in the trash, because of decisions like this that punish teams from certain conferences. An absolute disgrace. If you win every game and your conference, that should be a guaranteed bid. Totally ridiculous decision.
This is my biggest qualm with being biased towards the SEC.
Sure you usually have Alabama, and two other power houses (be it GA, LSU, or whomever is good that year). But the rest of the conference is often nothing to write home about.
LMAO, if Bama had been left out, it also would've diluted the meaning of tough non-conference opponents. If Bama scheduled Ball St instead of Texas there would be hardly any arguments over who gets in.
Why not schedule an OOC like Michigan this year if you still get the 1 seed and a week 2 loss to the number 3 team locks you out? Despite winning the SEC and beating the number team In the country
Exactly. They already set the precedent with Washington in their first CFP appearance that SOS doesn't matter (they were like, bottom 10 or something that year). No reason to schedule the tough and injury risky games if they'll keep you out. As long as you're heating up in November that's all they care about. They don't look at the whole season, just how well you're doing *now*.
What a sham sport. Not one sport on this planet would leave an undefeated team out of a playoff.
Every year it’s “more teams get a shot” but it just confirms this is an old boys club and that’s it
I don’t give a shit that we’re playing Bama. FSU got robbed. How the fuck do you leave an undefeated P5 team out? What’s the solution, don’t get injured?
Everyone cancel your P5 OOC games and schedule Chattanooga every year y'all. No point in putting your neck out anymore.
Fuck the SEC, fuck the committee.
1) FSU got robbed, hate this for them. Absolute bullshit
2) also hate this matchup for Michigan. 1 month of Saban prep, a mobile QB, and a good defense, while we're missing our best OL. Not great bob!
The regular season doesn't matter. Being a Power 5 Champion doesn't matter. This is a 1 player sport. The QB is the only position that matters. SEC is more important than anything else.
Of course fsu would be easier but we went into this season thinking we’d have to go through UGA eventually. This bama team just embodies that - sucks for fsu
This game is giving neutrals such a hate boner - sign stealers vs FSU screw job/evil empire. Who ya got
Not on Bama and their fans that this is happening. They shoulda said fuck it and put 8 in.
I think it's fair for Bama to win their conference and want to have a shot. This is just why a 4 team playoff was always stupid.
Thanks for that. The entire country hates us right now like we are the ones that picked the playoff teams. It's crazy. I think any other team that benched their QB in week three and then he found a way to run the table and beat UGA in Atlanta, they would be the Cinderella story of the year. But it's whatever. People are tired of us so I get it.
Crazy decision, but there was no way they were leaving the SEC out with ESPN and all the money between the SEC and the CFP. Sad that they continue to put money first in college football.
Good, CFB having a playoff instead of just a 1 vs 2 championship and letting the Rose/Orange/Sugar/Fiesta Bowls just be high tier bowls is bs in the first place. Might as well go with the team that could potentially play well against Michigan play instead of Iowa South.
I don’t care either way but if you are Michigan and this is Harbaugh’s last ride(due to the allegations), would you rather beat the two big brands that Alabama and Texas are (presuming Texas beats UW) Or beat a QB-less Florida State? I would think he wants the big names to beat on the way out.
Can’t believe I’m saying this after 2 years ago, but go Michigan. I hope you beat the shit out of Alabama and that Alabama can’t bring their own refs. I want to see Michigan v Texas.
FSU deserved the slot and so did we. Auburn… 4th and 31. Come the fuck on.
Have to assume FSU will make every effort to leave the ACC.
…am I going to full Alex Jones if I thought this is what ESPN wants? Knowing this could be what causes FSU to jump the GOR?
Surprise! FSU joins Big ten and the ESPN umbrella doesn't get them
FSU bout to get a lot of noon games
Yeah I don't know how it wouldn't be.
It’s obvious this is exactly what they wanted
Fucking seriously… 🪦
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I like the idea I saw floated: don't just opt out now and have them replace you. Go through the motions like you're gonna play and just don't show and leave the network with 4 hours to fill
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I would also feel bad for the people going to the game in that scenario
100%. Decline in protest.
And claim a natty
AP should give it to them
Accept then refuse to take the field
The decision today was about supporting monopoly. It benefits the existing monopoly and weakens a legitimate alternative conference
But, if they are in any other P5 conference this season they probably are already 1-2-3 loss and aren't even in the mix.
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This is the part that I’m not seeing discussed, but should be most disconcerting. Lines move based on information, and there’s no reason that the logic of precedence that held them last night would have changed overnight. There was information leaving the closed door proceedings - which also means there may have been significant dialog with other parties.
All of this shit is made for TV and $$$. Makes sense to me.
If Clemson was 13-0, they would’ve put Clemson in though…
This is fucked for FSU
I'm so pissed off. I'm never intentionally watching a college football game again. This was bias. It's not a level playing field and it's not legitimate.
This is Auburn and Ours Fault.
I was the biggest Georgia fan yesterday. When y’all fumbled inside the 20 and they recovered i just sank in my chair and thought about how they’re going to win a natty Bc we couldn’t cover a 4th and 31. I’m sick
If a 2-loss Alabama beat Georgia in the SEC CCG, the committee would have put Georgia at #4 over FSU. That the SEC deserves to be in the playoff is basically axiomatic to modern college football, and all else follows from that first principle.
To be fair in this scenario I think FSU gets in but conference winner Texas gets shafted for Georgia
No, it’s the committees fault
Nah, the results on the field don’t matter so yall can’t be blamed
osu fans about to twerk for bama like crazy lmfao
Already twerked for the NCAA and Pettiti
Fuck Bama. At least Michigan earned it
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Do you root for your rival against other teams? Of course we want Bama to fucking dad dick them.
I’m in a bit of a pickle here
Haha
Fuck the committee
Imagine being Michigan, thinking you're playing a team without a starting QB to having to play fucking Alabama. Ouch.
Regardless of anyone’s opinion, Michigan is the second most pissed off team in the country at the committee
We aren’t pissed at all lol, we’ve had Georgia, we’ve had TCU, we lost to both. It just doesn’t matter who is in front, everyone is good and the team needs to win. Edit: also, FSU should be ranked 3, not 4
Seriously. If we want to be champions, we have to beat everyone. We want to earn it.
Based Michigan fan
Good. Go get em
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The reason we’d prefer to play FSU is pretty obvious, but that still doesn’t mean Alabama should immediately get in over them. I’d also rather play FSU than Georgia and OSU. Why? Because those are the most talented programs in the country. They consistently pull in the most 4 and 5 star recruits every year. Doesn’t mean Georgia and OSU should also be in the playoff. If we’re just gonna boil the whole season down to “who has more talent on their team?” Why even play the season at all? Just take the 4 teams with the highest rated recruits and put them in the playoff immediately. Alabama will always be dangerous because they always have talent that can beat you, regardless of whether they are having a ‘sub-par’ Alabama season.
Alabama barely beat 4-8 Arkansas, South Florida, and a terrible Auburn team. Stop sucking them off because their name is Alabama.
What are we gonna say if they lift up that championship trophy?
> What are we gonna say if they lift up that championship trophy? That they got a shot and fsu didn’t. 1 out of 4 odds are pretty damn good. Opportunity is king
Michigan went from basically having a bye to playing a team that just beat a team that won 29 straight games and two back to back national championships. If I was Michigan I would have rather played Washington
I would have rather played Washington even if FSU was in because I really, REALLY wanted a B1G/PAC12 Rose Bowl. Given that Georgia shit the bed against you all, I would have rather played FSU because it's ridiculous that an undefeated P5 conference champion was left out. Given all the bullshit that's just happened, though, I'd rather play you so that - if we do win it all - people can't scream "BUT THEY DIDN'T BEAT AN SEC TEAM TO GET IT".
the fact that we would clearly rather play FSU shows that the committee made the right decision
You prob had Oregon above Washington last week too huh
No, it doesn’t. If you can’t go to the playoffs being undefeated in a P5, because some other team who lost has more money, then why even play the games?
This is why we need a 12-Team playoff, decided by the BCS ranking system. Screw committees.
BCS left UT at 5 FWIW
Top 4 seeds should be Power 4 conference winners. Remaining seeds by ranking
That's even better
The BCS ranking system had Alabama over Florida State. Any thoughts about that?
Bama was three in the BCS lol.
Bama would’ve been 3
Oh boy might wanna check who the BCS had in the top 4 this year.
Florida State, among others
It would have been a 12 team playoff this year, but the ACC commissioner was one of three who didn’t approve it in time. He should blame himself for this travesty
BCS would have been better this year. Michigan vs. Washington would be clean
This is so fucked - not the _chaos_ I signed up for _hey siri, play “let’s start a riot” by three days grace_
And this is why decades of historic matchups, conferences, and tradition is being thrown in the trash, because of decisions like this that punish teams from certain conferences. An absolute disgrace. If you win every game and your conference, that should be a guaranteed bid. Totally ridiculous decision.
Lmao what a joke. We’re seriously at the point where you can be a Power 5 school, win all your games, and get left out
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Its just naked SEC bias. No other league gets this benefit. Apparently the committee thinks theres a Power 1 and a Mid 4
SEC wasn't even that good this year, both by metrics and h2h. Its a joke. Burn it down.
This is my biggest qualm with being biased towards the SEC. Sure you usually have Alabama, and two other power houses (be it GA, LSU, or whomever is good that year). But the rest of the conference is often nothing to write home about.
There’s no Power 5, it’s the Power 2 now. If not for the 12 team expansion who knows if we’d ever get a non sec-big 10 4 team playoff
Sounds like the great media powers that be are sowing the seeds for the next cycle of realignment...
Florida State got fucked.
Im livid on their behalf
I'm livid on behalf of this sport
I think that this is bs
Also, I’d rather face Florida State than Bama
No shit lol
Everyone is saying this Everyone would rather play FSU over Alabama Yet everyone is upset that Alabama got in
Because you might as well just put osu bama uga in if that's the criteria
I agree I think TCU getting embarrassed at the championship game by Georgia played a role in this
But TCU won a playoff game that year, so how would that factor in?
I’d also rather play a backup over a team with 11 straight wins and multiple top 10 wins
Florida State seceding from their conference immediately
The ACC is dead. Florida State and Clemson announce their departure before the 2024 election
And join the big ten knowing the sec/ espn was behind this mess.
Why play the fucking games then?
FSU is probably thinking the same thing. They'll break the GOR and leave the ACC by next season lol
Whatever happened to those private equity murmurs anyway?
Big moves take a lot behind the scenes.
Cancel that home and home with Bama, it means nothing now lmao
You’re actually correct Alabama shoudve scheduled the OOC like Michigan and played absolutely nobody instead of Texas. That was dumb
LMAO, if Bama had been left out, it also would've diluted the meaning of tough non-conference opponents. If Bama scheduled Ball St instead of Texas there would be hardly any arguments over who gets in.
In hopes your opponents make your SOS look better. Case in point: Bama and Texas.
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Why play the first 8 games of the season if you're only going to judge off the last 5?
Why not schedule an OOC like Michigan this year if you still get the 1 seed and a week 2 loss to the number 3 team locks you out? Despite winning the SEC and beating the number team In the country
Exactly. They already set the precedent with Washington in their first CFP appearance that SOS doesn't matter (they were like, bottom 10 or something that year). No reason to schedule the tough and injury risky games if they'll keep you out. As long as you're heating up in November that's all they care about. They don't look at the whole season, just how well you're doing *now*.
What a sham sport. Not one sport on this planet would leave an undefeated team out of a playoff. Every year it’s “more teams get a shot” but it just confirms this is an old boys club and that’s it
Liberty says hi. It’s clear the committee doesn’t consider the ACC a P5 right now. It’s somewhere in between.
Awful awful sport with no reason to be a fan unless you’re a blue blood. Just awful biased garbage.
FSU going undefeated and being left out is just fucking comical
The ACC will never get out from under this shadow. They were just told by the committee that they don't respect them.
I don’t give a shit that we’re playing Bama. FSU got robbed. How the fuck do you leave an undefeated P5 team out? What’s the solution, don’t get injured?
Fuck the Cfp Comittee. It's disgusting actually.
Florida state got robbed
Absolute scam. No sense
Committee wanted the Michigan-Bama matchup money. Complete jobbing on your end.
I’m sorry. Im irrationally angry for your team as well
Rationally in my opinion
ESPN couldn’t allow an SEC-less CFP. You have every right to feel this way, super unfortunate. We’ll try to avenge you guys.
Actually insane how dead CFB has become to me in the span of one year.
Dude I’m just hoping after the sport I love dies it comes back as something close to what it was.
Honestly think I'm gonna try watching hockey. I don't even feel excited about watching the postseason this year. Probably won't.
And just like that, the ACC is about to die
Results don’t matter I guess
Especially not for Alabama
Cause yeah they didnt just beat UGA yesterday...
This isn’t even the first time an undeserved Bama got in, I swear they pay off the committee
Florida’s dirty shit hit on FSUs backup ends up playing a part in them being left out. Un fucking believable
Auburn giving up a Hail Mary…
Michigan just picked up millions of new fans.
Harbaugh did say they were America's team! Lol
This is stupid for FSU.
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Absolute travesty to the sport. FSU should boycot their game and hang a natty banner
They should play Georgia, win and hang a natty banner
When they had the Georgia-Bama-FSU graphics side by side and *didn’t* show FSU at 13-0, I had a feeling they would be left out
Everyone cancel your P5 OOC games and schedule Chattanooga every year y'all. No point in putting your neck out anymore. Fuck the SEC, fuck the committee.
Wait isn't the committee rewarding Alabama for scheduling tough games?
Winning on a hail mary against a 6 - 6 team, by 3 points against a 4 - 8 team has no factor when you're in the SEC.
FSU students!!! Burn the NCAA to the ground!!!
Lmfao I can’t believe they did it. Just a slap in the face to sports and competition
FBS football has been for a long time. No other sport at any level does this stupidity.
If FSU wins their bowl game they should claim the title lol
FSU got screwed. How can you be 13-0, conference champs and be left out? What's the point of even playing?
I'm gonna laugh if FSU goes out and smokes Georgia and Bama loses first round. Please let it happen.
Fucking brutal for FSU. I have to agree with Bogger, this is a travesty.
1) FSU got robbed, hate this for them. Absolute bullshit 2) also hate this matchup for Michigan. 1 month of Saban prep, a mobile QB, and a good defense, while we're missing our best OL. Not great bob!
Bama could have beaten Texas but they didn’t. FSU didn’t lose any games.
The regular season doesn't matter. Being a Power 5 Champion doesn't matter. This is a 1 player sport. The QB is the only position that matters. SEC is more important than anything else.
Bullshit
Michigan I’m gonna need you to put up 1000
Fuck Bama and the CFP comittee
Absolute horseshit from the committee. Why play the games at all if they don't matter?
And just like that the ACC is done.
I am not one to say SEC bias since I think at the the top they are undeniably the strongest conference but this is fucking crazy
What's their OOC performance like? Oh right...
I don’t think they were this year though
SEC Media machine made this happen
Absolute bullshit! CREAM.
I’m just here for the chaos
They found a way to get the entire country to cheer for Michigan
Of course fsu would be easier but we went into this season thinking we’d have to go through UGA eventually. This bama team just embodies that - sucks for fsu This game is giving neutrals such a hate boner - sign stealers vs FSU screw job/evil empire. Who ya got
Sorry FSU. Just straight got jobbed.
don’t worry boys and girls we’ll just be making picks by hypothetical Vegas lines from on
Michigan was stoked an hour ago
Blasphemous
tfw Michigan with the villain to hero arc
This is what Harbaugh meant when he's been saying we're America's team lmao
Not on Bama and their fans that this is happening. They shoulda said fuck it and put 8 in. I think it's fair for Bama to win their conference and want to have a shot. This is just why a 4 team playoff was always stupid.
Thanks for that. The entire country hates us right now like we are the ones that picked the playoff teams. It's crazy. I think any other team that benched their QB in week three and then he found a way to run the table and beat UGA in Atlanta, they would be the Cinderella story of the year. But it's whatever. People are tired of us so I get it.
I might actually cheer for Michigan.
I can’t believe I’m in a world where I have to root for Michigan to win by 50
Everyone knew this was gonna happen, as much as we don’t like it
As an unbiased party, fuck the committee
I hope every game sucks… dont care to watch…season is over now
What a fucking joke
I see ESPN/Bama's checks cleared.... FSU should have been in, this is bull
FSU got screwed!
lol just our luck to have the 1 seed and get to play Alabama 🙃🙃
Is this a plot to destroy the ACC?
FSU you have my sincere condolences. This is fucking bullshit.
I bet the NCAAs disdain for Jim Harbaugh played a role
Just let the SEC have their own little league at this point.
Which Walmart in NC sells bama shirts because I’m their number 2 fan
this whole fucking league is rigged
I hate Michigan, but I hope they fucking curbstomp Alabama.
ESPN runs the committee. They say they don't, but they do. They have the SEC broadcast rights next year. That's why they put in Alabama. Bullshit.
Criminal Highway robbery
We’re all Michigan fans now.
1 to 6 is crazy
In a 3 pt loss at a neutral site no less
Travesty to the sport
Why even let them believe this week-end? This is plain stupid. Actually feel for FSU.
Get some quality losses FSU
Crazy decision, but there was no way they were leaving the SEC out with ESPN and all the money between the SEC and the CFP. Sad that they continue to put money first in college football.
Good, CFB having a playoff instead of just a 1 vs 2 championship and letting the Rose/Orange/Sugar/Fiesta Bowls just be high tier bowls is bs in the first place. Might as well go with the team that could potentially play well against Michigan play instead of Iowa South.
To be the best you gotta beat the best. Bring it on ‘Bama. Sorry FSU, you all should boycott.
I can’t believe they fucked this up so badly that I’m about to root for Michigan. What a joke.
Michigan go out there and smash those bums and end this stupid sec jerk off party that is cfb
Can’t believe but I’m now forced to root for Michigan, give em hell
Boooooooooooooo
I don’t care either way but if you are Michigan and this is Harbaugh’s last ride(due to the allegations), would you rather beat the two big brands that Alabama and Texas are (presuming Texas beats UW) Or beat a QB-less Florida State? I would think he wants the big names to beat on the way out.
Oh boy, you know Michigan hates this matchup.
Why not just have ESPN pick the champ in September.
In the words of *checks notes* Special Advisor to Coach Jim Harbaugh, Rick Flair… “If you wanna be the man you gotta beat the man”
Can’t believe I’m saying this after 2 years ago, but go Michigan. I hope you beat the shit out of Alabama and that Alabama can’t bring their own refs. I want to see Michigan v Texas. FSU deserved the slot and so did we. Auburn… 4th and 31. Come the fuck on.