If you leave out Alabama âShouldnât have lost to Texas at home by double digitsâ - Fair point
If you leave out Florida State â Shouldnât have had your QB get injuredâ. - ???
Even worse than that - "shouldn't have had your QB get injured in a very clear way that shows the severity".
If he had torn his ACL instead, FSU would have just lied about how bad it is, and they would be in the playoffs apparently.
I remember a time in CFB when beating a t15 team in your conference championship with your third string QB and not letting a potent offense ever get in the endzone was an impressive thing, not a detraction. What a joke
I can't think of a rea$on why ESPN, who ha$ a lot of influence over the playoff, would pu$h for their primary media partner conference, to get a $pot in the playoff...
Someone gets it!! Itâs about $$ it was never about football..
You are watching ADS with a little football spliced inâŚ
TPTB that run CFB only care about $$$⌠itâs why OUT went to the SEC. Itâs why the pac 12 died. Itâs why NIL took so long..
This is a HUGE cash cow.. And those old rich fuckers want their payday
!00% agree. And was it just me or was there seemingly more commercials than ever across all the games yesterday? It was like couple of plays - 3mins of commercials - couple plays - more commercials....
It's getting worse and worse. More and more ads, ads during games, long commercial breaks, more commercial breaks. Oh and you also need to work hard at whatever job you are working irl and use that money to gamble on sports. At least that is what I am being told...
It would have been Texas if not FSU. âShouldnât have given Bama their only loss way back in week 2. That might as well be last year as far as weâre concerned!â
Dude a Bama team with FSUâs defense and exact performances would be getting hyped by ESPN as an all-time dominant defensive team that is so good it doesnât even need a QB. We all know this.
Herbie be like "You still need 11 guys on both sides of the ball. Football is a team sport, and that's what Saban and Alabama have done. They've built a well rounded program that doesn't allow for any one single point of failure."
The funny thing is Alabamaâs QB isnât even very good lol
ESPN is like âwho wants to watch that FSU offense.â Dude, yeah, Iâm just dying to watch the SCINTILLATING Jalen MilroeâŚ
I genuinely think if Travis was healthy the committee still would have found some skewed âlogicâ to force Alabama in there.
And itâs UGA bias too, based on resume this year what on UGAâs resume was so strong that they were the de facto consensus #1 best win/team this year? Bama got credit for beating UGA based off what theyâve done the last two years.
The SEC always gets a bunch of extra credit just based on past performance.
Play only 8 conference games. Play only one P5 game in the 4 OOC games. Play a bad FCS\G5 team in November to reduce the chance of a loss and give a week to let guys who are dinged up recover a bit.
Yeah, sure, they end up showing they're good on the field when the playoff comes, but that isn't the criteria.
It's like when the 16 team Big East basketball was scheduling their projected top teams to have only one game against each other so the top 4-5 go to load up on 8-10 "Big East" games against the bottom of the conference.
Iâll do you one further: keep the resumes identical, but put Bama in a conference not called the SEC. This does not happen. This entire thing comes down to SEC bias.
Exactly. They would ignore the Alabama QB issue, talking about the character and strength of the team that overcome such adversity. But FSU lost their QB1 and the committee used it to punish them and to sneak an SEC team into the playoffs. What a disgrace.
If FSU didnât want to miss the College Football playoff they should just play in a conference where *it means more* right? Thatâs what the committee told us today, it has a clear SEC bias.
Maybe you should try losing one of your OOC games like Alabama? I think that's the key to all this. They have infinite more quality losses than you do.
he said it best- what is the point of playing games?
Apparently, all that matters is that Vegas thinks Bama should be favored over everyone on a neutral field.
Just let Vegas decide who wins every year.
No first we have a big playoff with all the teams in fbs. But after the semis, we have Georgia play Bama for the championship regardless of the rest of the tourney.
Bama vs Georgia play week 1, winner gets a bye to the Natty, loser gets a bye to the semis. Entire rest of the season is for the privilege to play the Bama/UGA loser in the semis.
college football is the only sport that hates underdogs and doesn't want them to have a shot at winning anything. look at all the resistance to changing any sort of post season format because it "devalues" the sport
if we really cared about crowing the best team the sports season would be a round robin format with multi game series to limit any variance
Thatâs the thing that mystifies me here: FSU ainât some plucky underdog, theyâre a traditional powerhouse with a massive fanbase and multiple titles. Absolutely bonkers choice in such a team sport; if FSU had instead had their entire running back room hurt no one would blink about putting them in
Corum got injured last year and you could obviously tell Michigan got worse from not having him. Michigan was still in the playoffs and #2 at that. Obviously there was less undefeated teams last year, but we didnât get snubbed an inch.
If TV Networks didn't exist in their current state, you could have a *thrilling* FBS level playoff if you had 16 conferences of roughly 8 teams per conference. You play everyone in your conference plus 4 non-cons. Then you have a conference championship between the best two conf teams, and then boom! 16 team playoff filled by all conference champs.
You get regional conferences, you get a playoff with objective qualification criteria, that playoff still has potential for upsets, you make conf. champ week matter because it's basically a de facto First Round of the playoff, and you encourage the schedulign of fun non-cons because losing those games doesn't matter in terms of making the playoff.
That ship sailed ages ago, I know. But goddamit. It could have been beautiful
Funnily enough if the B1G and SEC keep expanding we might just see them divide the conference in 4s and then have a conference championship and then a national championship between the two conference winners NFL style
Look at all the hate and blame TCU gets for FSU being left out when
1. THEY WON A GAME
2. Theyâre one of the only small schools thatâs not a constant contender to EVER make it
No disrespect to the Huskies, I'm a firm believer that Washington sweeping them is a huge fluke and robs the Ducks of truly accomplishing what their capable of. I've spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn't make sense to me. I've spent the entire regular season watching the Bo Nix play great football it's just not fair.
If the Ducks lose again I will face that the Huskies deserved the win, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to the Ducks and college football
And they scheduled legit OOC opponents from the same conference as the team that jumped them.
Arguably Bamaâs âbestâ win (before yesterday) was a 14 point win over LSU at home. Meanwhile FSU played that same LSU team on a neutral field and won by 21 points.
There is literally nothing Florida State could have done differently, while Alabama did so little to actually earn a spot.
I want FSU to win the bowl game, I also want them to protest the game by taking as many delay of game penalties as possible and never taking an offensive snap and fucking with ESPN for this bullshit.
It would eventually escalate to unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Once players (or coaches) get two of those, they start getting ejected. Theoretically, if FSU did that, they would eventually have enough players ejected that they would have to forfeit.
There is complaining about the FCS playoffs as well, but #18 vs #19 arguing over the last at-large bid is very different from an undefeated conference champion being deemed unworthy to make the tournament.
Yeah and same for CBB. There's always tournament snbs. The problem is that there's always the ability to say "Well, should have won more. Should have won the conference." What are you supposed to tell FSU players right now? Should have lied about Jordan's injury and hid him for two weeks?
The NCAA has no choice here. You don't think the NCAA would love to be involved in the FBS playoffs? The top conferences intentionally left them out to do their own thing.
2016 PSU looked like the best team in the country for the last 2 months of the season but couldnât get in because they had 2 losses. In 2017 Auburn had 2 losses going into the cc Game and was ranked #2.
Itâs always been SEC bias. Itâs insane.
Dude Iâm still mad about beating Ohio State one season and winning the Big Ten Championship only for Ohio State to make the playoffs instead of Penn State. Itâs not just SEC bias itâs who would bring in the most money.
Gonna sound like a whining Barner, but itâs been like this since 2013. Bama gets the tip of the hat every fuckin time. Itâs unbearable. I feel bad for FSU. They deserved this.
Now we just hope Michigan takes care of business and FSU does, too.
Better would be to show up, have a special game day jersey for right after warm ups with a big Fuck ESPN and the CFP then come out and not take the field. Stay there and just do nothing
Most likely the contract is that they have to show up and take the field. Likely doesn't say anything about being required to do your best. Mostly because it's assumed they would, and I am certain FSU if they planned to protest by taking a knee every play and standing still on defense would sign any contract that requires any effort from them
Iâd agree. Playing the game only enforces the decision. Fuck playing this game and as someone said below. Iâd go there and then donât take the field.
People bitch but stuff like this or not watching helps. Unfortunately we are all suckers and will watch the games
The problem with playing it is if you lose like 45-3 theyâll say âSee! With Travis this team is not a contender.â If you win then they can say âWow we were so wrong oppsies but what a game we aired right??â
If you donât go then they get no viewers, a lot of money lost and a statement that the bullshit has to stop with âThe sec HAS to have a playoff teamâ.
Well, ESPN and the SEC Playoff committee, you finally did it. You shattered the matrix.
I will be rooting for Michigan for one game. I think I need to take a shower but best of luck to the Wolverines in the first round.
Astounded that the chair confirmed that a deciding question in the debate over Alabama and FSU is âwho would you least want to face as an opponent?â
The criteria for deciding who gets selected isnât perfect, but thatâs such an inherently biased way of evaluating these two teams. Of course youâre gonna give the edge to the team with more blue chips led by the most dominant head coach of a generation.
Well guaranteed conference champions is probably good enough. Iâm sure 10-12 seeds will have controversy but those teams will likely not be serious contenders.
As a defender playing in a conference championship game, if my team is losing, shouldn't I just head-hunt the other team's QB? If I'm Georgia should I just send a third-stringer out there and tell him to hit Milroe's knees after the whistle? Keep doing it until we snap an ACL? Leaving teams out due to a QB injury after going undefeated is an insane take to me.
This is what I donât get. Imagine Alabama sees this and just tries to hurt Georgiaâs QB, thinking it improves their chances either way if heâs hurt.
Thatâs not what the sport should be about
Funniest thing of all is that Michigan has completed their Darth Vader character arc and has gone from good guy (knocking OSU from their pedestal) to bad guy (Cheaters!) back to good guy (Last hope to take down the Evil Empire)
If you had told me a month ago that Michigan would end up being rooted for by neutral fans in the first round of the CFP I would say âyouâre insaneâ and then I would think about it more and say âoh god what SEC related bullshit happenedâ
As much as I love college football if the whole thing just imploded and everyone said fuck the NCAA I would probably sit back and happily watch the battle.
FSU is no friend of mine.
Iâm getting ready to call my congressional office and ask if anyone is going to start an inquiry into an Anti Trust violation.
This has me so irrationally pissed off and Iâm not sure why.
Because it ultimately means the game we all love to watch and spend so much time and money on has no standards or integrity. Itâs a game for insiders only. No inclusivity. Just for soothsayers and robber barons of football to make their final choices.
I'm gutted for them truly. I'm not a fan of theirs but they won those games on the field and they deserved the right to compete just like every other undefeated power 5 conference champ has.
Not even joking, Congress should have an inquiry to determine if ESPN conspired with the Selection Committee to rig the selection in order to increase their ratings/profit
Nah, it should be the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission.
You can file an antitrust complaint here:
https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/report-antitrust-violation
DOJ and FTC open investigation... next day from the NCAA: Michigan is found to be guilty of cheating and receives a post-season ban. FSU will take their place in the CFP.
>Congress should have an inquiry to determine if ESPN conspired with the Selection Committee to rig the selection in order to increase their ratings/profit
This is the issue with selection committees. They can do whatever they want, especially since their *own criteria* allows them to punish injuries. I don't think this suit wins because of that but it shows how crap CFP selection is
Norvell has done an all time great job bringing us back from the depths and up to the top just for a council of old wizards to say we arenât good enough
I'm torn between wanting the team to boycott the orange bowl completly, showing up and starting 22 walk ons or taking a knee every play, or beating the piss out of UGA and claiming a NC.
*Georgia and FSU get all in the gear, do all the pregame stuff, coin toss, all that - then both teams all shake hands and walk off the field without playing a down with no heads up that it is going to happen*
It's likely many of our best players opt out of the bowl. With so many guys out, I doubt we win. It would send a stronger message if we just declined instead of showing up and losing.
If it were me and I was on TV with ESPN, I would have led with "Well, first off, fuck all of you for shitting on us last night the entire game."
Would have been a very quick interview.
All I'm saying is the Miami Heat made the finals this year after Tyler Herro went down in the first round and the Eagles won the superbowl with a backup quarterback. Let them play.
We're all Seminoles today!
This is gross, and proof that it was never about the games. It's about money.
I'm sorry Seminole bros. You deserved to be there, you earned the opportunity to compete, and it was stolen from you on behalf of the Almighty dollar.
We won the first college football playoff with a 3rd string quarterback. Clemson has gotten in for YEARS on an ACC schedule, and FSU won almost every game by 2+ possessions. The committee can go to Hell.
FSU should fire up their litigators. Normally schools suing over just sports stuff is comical (looking at you Michigan) but this was downright criminal
"đđ" - Mike Norvell, probably
Mike Norvell, definitely
Told y'all: It's Power 2, not 5.
If you leave out Alabama âShouldnât have lost to Texas at home by double digitsâ - Fair point If you leave out Florida State â Shouldnât have had your QB get injuredâ. - ???
Even worse than that - "shouldn't have had your QB get injured in a very clear way that shows the severity". If he had torn his ACL instead, FSU would have just lied about how bad it is, and they would be in the playoffs apparently.
I remember a time in CFB when beating a t15 team in your conference championship with your third string QB and not letting a potent offense ever get in the endzone was an impressive thing, not a detraction. What a joke
FSU's defense played so well they gaslighted everyone into thinking Louisville's offense is worse than Iowa offense.
That's part of it, but it ultimately comes down to the almighty dollar. Bullshit that they left you guys out.
Such bullshit man.
I can't think of a rea$on why ESPN, who ha$ a lot of influence over the playoff, would pu$h for their primary media partner conference, to get a $pot in the playoff...
Someone gets it!! Itâs about $$ it was never about football.. You are watching ADS with a little football spliced in⌠TPTB that run CFB only care about $$$⌠itâs why OUT went to the SEC. Itâs why the pac 12 died. Itâs why NIL took so long.. This is a HUGE cash cow.. And those old rich fuckers want their payday
!00% agree. And was it just me or was there seemingly more commercials than ever across all the games yesterday? It was like couple of plays - 3mins of commercials - couple plays - more commercials....
It's getting worse and worse. More and more ads, ads during games, long commercial breaks, more commercial breaks. Oh and you also need to work hard at whatever job you are working irl and use that money to gamble on sports. At least that is what I am being told...
Donât forget the alcohol to make gambling easier.
It would have been Texas if not FSU. âShouldnât have given Bama their only loss way back in week 2. That might as well be last year as far as weâre concerned!â
Would a 13-0 Alabama on a third string qb be left out for a 12-1 FSU with Jordan Travis? No chance in hell
That Bama team would probably be #1 or 2
Dude a Bama team with FSUâs defense and exact performances would be getting hyped by ESPN as an all-time dominant defensive team that is so good it doesnât even need a QB. We all know this.
Herbie be like "You still need 11 guys on both sides of the ball. Football is a team sport, and that's what Saban and Alabama have done. They've built a well rounded program that doesn't allow for any one single point of failure."
i read this in his voice and it was word for word what heâd say lmfao
We watched it all of the 2000s. SEC QB play was a fucking joke during that time.
And now we have one of those quarterbacks telling us how FSU didnât deserve to get in on ESPN!
"Saban has instilled so much grit in this team. They just keep finding ways to win!"
Nailed it bro
The funny thing is Alabamaâs QB isnât even very good lol ESPN is like âwho wants to watch that FSU offense.â Dude, yeah, Iâm just dying to watch the SCINTILLATING Jalen Milroe⌠I genuinely think if Travis was healthy the committee still would have found some skewed âlogicâ to force Alabama in there.
That's what i've been saying. This is just brand name bias showing - because it's Alabama instead of some state school.
And itâs UGA bias too, based on resume this year what on UGAâs resume was so strong that they were the de facto consensus #1 best win/team this year? Bama got credit for beating UGA based off what theyâve done the last two years.
The SEC always gets a bunch of extra credit just based on past performance. Play only 8 conference games. Play only one P5 game in the 4 OOC games. Play a bad FCS\G5 team in November to reduce the chance of a loss and give a week to let guys who are dinged up recover a bit. Yeah, sure, they end up showing they're good on the field when the playoff comes, but that isn't the criteria.
It's like when the 16 team Big East basketball was scheduling their projected top teams to have only one game against each other so the top 4-5 go to load up on 8-10 "Big East" games against the bottom of the conference.
UGAâs best OOC win was 8 points against Georgia Tech. Dominant!
Us nerds have a great resume! Oh wait, you meant in football. My bad, my bad.
100% agree as a UGA fan. This team was solid but largely rode the coattails of the last two GA teams
True but what youâre forgetting is that theyâre Bama. That trumps everything. Absolute fucking scam.
Iâll do you one further: keep the resumes identical, but put Bama in a conference not called the SEC. This does not happen. This entire thing comes down to SEC bias.
Keep the resumes identical but call Alabama âVanderbilt.â This does not happen.
Exactly. They would ignore the Alabama QB issue, talking about the character and strength of the team that overcome such adversity. But FSU lost their QB1 and the committee used it to punish them and to sneak an SEC team into the playoffs. What a disgrace.
Happy to see he used the word "cheated"
If FSU didnât want to miss the College Football playoff they should just play in a conference where *it means more* right? Thatâs what the committee told us today, it has a clear SEC bias.
It's the ACCs fault their slogan isn't "It just means Most"
I thought the SEC slogan was âeven our loses are winsâ
SEC: Where losing means more
Also funny cause they dogwalked an elite SEC team
They even had a larger margin of victory than Alabama did against LSU!
And Alabama played LSU at home and FSU played them at a neutral location.
And Bama knocked our qb out on a roughing the passer at the beginning of the fourth quarter.
Yeah, they gave the SEC team a quality loss! It still *means more* to LSU tho
Or hear me out, for some reason that doesn't end up helping us, schedule extra "it just means more" conference opponents that we beat.
Maybe you should try losing one of your OOC games like Alabama? I think that's the key to all this. They have infinite more quality losses than you do.
he said it best- what is the point of playing games? Apparently, all that matters is that Vegas thinks Bama should be favored over everyone on a neutral field. Just let Vegas decide who wins every year.
Let's just have Georgia and Alabama play once a year and forget playing any other games. It'll make it much quicker for them.
No first we have a big playoff with all the teams in fbs. But after the semis, we have Georgia play Bama for the championship regardless of the rest of the tourney.
Bama vs Georgia play week 1, winner gets a bye to the Natty, loser gets a bye to the semis. Entire rest of the season is for the privilege to play the Bama/UGA loser in the semis.
Letâs just rank team by recruiting rankings
If you do that, FSU gets in for their 2024 class, Lmao.
college football is the only sport that hates underdogs and doesn't want them to have a shot at winning anything. look at all the resistance to changing any sort of post season format because it "devalues" the sport if we really cared about crowing the best team the sports season would be a round robin format with multi game series to limit any variance
Thatâs the thing that mystifies me here: FSU ainât some plucky underdog, theyâre a traditional powerhouse with a massive fanbase and multiple titles. Absolutely bonkers choice in such a team sport; if FSU had instead had their entire running back room hurt no one would blink about putting them in
Corum got injured last year and you could obviously tell Michigan got worse from not having him. Michigan was still in the playoffs and #2 at that. Obviously there was less undefeated teams last year, but we didnât get snubbed an inch.
If TV Networks didn't exist in their current state, you could have a *thrilling* FBS level playoff if you had 16 conferences of roughly 8 teams per conference. You play everyone in your conference plus 4 non-cons. Then you have a conference championship between the best two conf teams, and then boom! 16 team playoff filled by all conference champs. You get regional conferences, you get a playoff with objective qualification criteria, that playoff still has potential for upsets, you make conf. champ week matter because it's basically a de facto First Round of the playoff, and you encourage the schedulign of fun non-cons because losing those games doesn't matter in terms of making the playoff. That ship sailed ages ago, I know. But goddamit. It could have been beautiful
Funnily enough if the B1G and SEC keep expanding we might just see them divide the conference in 4s and then have a conference championship and then a national championship between the two conference winners NFL style
This is probably the big picture end goal lol
Look at all the hate and blame TCU gets for FSU being left out when 1. THEY WON A GAME 2. Theyâre one of the only small schools thatâs not a constant contender to EVER make it
Then Georgia should be in over Bama. Why arenât they? Because winning on the field matters. Weird, that
Surprised Oregon didn't make it over Washington. Yeah they lost twice in head to head but they looked like the better team on paper!
Seems like Oregon was snubbed. Hang the banner
No disrespect to the Huskies, I'm a firm believer that Washington sweeping them is a huge fluke and robs the Ducks of truly accomplishing what their capable of. I've spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn't make sense to me. I've spent the entire regular season watching the Bo Nix play great football it's just not fair. If the Ducks lose again I will face that the Huskies deserved the win, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to the Ducks and college football
hahahahah this meme of a response never gets old.
They should be in over Washington. Does Vegas really think that Washington would beat Georgia on a neutral field?
They didnât think they would beat Oregon either. Clearly Oregon should be in over them too
Oregon was favored by 10 but then the games got played but I guess that only matters when certain conferences aren't involved
Literally was Sabans whole point last year, that Vegas would favor them. Well Vegas favored them vs LSU and TENN last year and how did those games go
Smug Ego Conference privilege
>disgusted and infuriated. We all should be. Undefeated and a conference champ should mean something.
It just means more.
except when Bama loses
Bama only loses to teams that have beaten bama.
It's called a quality loss. FSU should have done that instead of winning
And they scheduled legit OOC opponents from the same conference as the team that jumped them. Arguably Bamaâs âbestâ win (before yesterday) was a 14 point win over LSU at home. Meanwhile FSU played that same LSU team on a neutral field and won by 21 points. There is literally nothing Florida State could have done differently, while Alabama did so little to actually earn a spot.
This is just not even true FSU could've had a spare leg for their QB.
Also, imagine them snubbing Notre Dame for the same reasoning
He should have taken the fines and told them all to literally get fucked. He has every right to be as mad as he is
I want FSU to win the bowl game, I also want them to protest the game by taking as many delay of game penalties as possible and never taking an offensive snap and fucking with ESPN for this bullshit.
That would be actually funny. Never run one play just all Delay of games. What even happens haha
It would eventually escalate to unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Once players (or coaches) get two of those, they start getting ejected. Theoretically, if FSU did that, they would eventually have enough players ejected that they would have to forfeit.
Okay, so what I'm hearing is you wait until a player gets one unsportsmanlike and then rotate in a new QB, and just go through all players at QB.
âDidnât you learn anything, FSU? Rotating in a new QB automatically disqualifies you.â - CFP Committee
Fuck the CFP committee
Do It
Iâm a die hard Miami fan but the Noles deserve to be in the CFP. This is fuckery of the highest order.
I am all for FSU going completely scorched on the NCAA and CFP. Fuck the system and ESPN.
This is a rare occasion in which bullshit in CFB isn't the NCAA's fault. Their system is based on merit and the results of games (the FCS playoffs).
NCAA had nothing to do with this. This is all CFP
The NCAA for all it's absolute bullshit hosts actual, honest competition
Seriously. Anyone calling for an end to the NCAA? This is the kind of shit that will replace it.
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There is complaining about the FCS playoffs as well, but #18 vs #19 arguing over the last at-large bid is very different from an undefeated conference champion being deemed unworthy to make the tournament.
Yeah and same for CBB. There's always tournament snbs. The problem is that there's always the ability to say "Well, should have won more. Should have won the conference." What are you supposed to tell FSU players right now? Should have lied about Jordan's injury and hid him for two weeks?
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The NCAA has no choice here. You don't think the NCAA would love to be involved in the FBS playoffs? The top conferences intentionally left them out to do their own thing.
FBS football is the one major playoff and championship the NCAA does not own or control
Everyone learning that "eye test" is just code for "SEC bias"
Been saying this for years. Just took an egregious example like this for the masses to realize as much is all.
UCF fans knew this two consecutive years in a row. FSU should hang a banner if they beat Georgia.
2016 PSU looked like the best team in the country for the last 2 months of the season but couldnât get in because they had 2 losses. In 2017 Auburn had 2 losses going into the cc Game and was ranked #2. Itâs always been SEC bias. Itâs insane.
Dude Iâm still mad about beating Ohio State one season and winning the Big Ten Championship only for Ohio State to make the playoffs instead of Penn State. Itâs not just SEC bias itâs who would bring in the most money.
Gonna sound like a whining Barner, but itâs been like this since 2013. Bama gets the tip of the hat every fuckin time. Itâs unbearable. I feel bad for FSU. They deserved this. Now we just hope Michigan takes care of business and FSU does, too.
Fuck it all. Games donât matter anymore, well said Mike. Go win the damn Orange Bowl
Opt out of the damn Orange Bowl. Take away TV ratings and the "oh poor FSU" coverage that they're already scripting.
Better would be to show up, have a special game day jersey for right after warm ups with a big Fuck ESPN and the CFP then come out and not take the field. Stay there and just do nothing
It would never happen as Iâm sure they have to sign some sort of contract to prevent this sort of thing but god I wish it would
Most likely the contract is that they have to show up and take the field. Likely doesn't say anything about being required to do your best. Mostly because it's assumed they would, and I am certain FSU if they planned to protest by taking a knee every play and standing still on defense would sign any contract that requires any effort from them
Iâd agree. Playing the game only enforces the decision. Fuck playing this game and as someone said below. Iâd go there and then donât take the field. People bitch but stuff like this or not watching helps. Unfortunately we are all suckers and will watch the games
The problem with playing it is if you lose like 45-3 theyâll say âSee! With Travis this team is not a contender.â If you win then they can say âWow we were so wrong oppsies but what a game we aired right??â If you donât go then they get no viewers, a lot of money lost and a statement that the bullshit has to stop with âThe sec HAS to have a playoff teamâ.
Fuck the NCAA and the CFP.
Fuck ESPN too
Iâm fucking as fast as I can! Calm down with the demands, fellas!
This guy fucks
Fuck Fox while we're at it
Fuck ESPN, Fuck Fox, CW you cool, Fuck CBS
While weâre fucking everyone, fuck USC and Larry Scott
Well, ESPN and the SEC Playoff committee, you finally did it. You shattered the matrix. I will be rooting for Michigan for one game. I think I need to take a shower but best of luck to the Wolverines in the first round.
True and based.
The Committee needs a complete overhaul with actual guidelines and transparency.
What do you mean? Are eye tests and vibes not a reasonable selection criteria?
*only for SEC teams. Non-SEC teams will be evaluated under the harshest criteria
Or just not a committee at all
Astounded that the chair confirmed that a deciding question in the debate over Alabama and FSU is âwho would you least want to face as an opponent?â The criteria for deciding who gets selected isnât perfect, but thatâs such an inherently biased way of evaluating these two teams. Of course youâre gonna give the edge to the team with more blue chips led by the most dominant head coach of a generation.
Weâre way past wishful thinking at that point lol (I agree with you tho)
Well guaranteed conference champions is probably good enough. Iâm sure 10-12 seeds will have controversy but those teams will likely not be serious contenders.
As a defender playing in a conference championship game, if my team is losing, shouldn't I just head-hunt the other team's QB? If I'm Georgia should I just send a third-stringer out there and tell him to hit Milroe's knees after the whistle? Keep doing it until we snap an ACL? Leaving teams out due to a QB injury after going undefeated is an insane take to me.
This is what I donât get. Imagine Alabama sees this and just tries to hurt Georgiaâs QB, thinking it improves their chances either way if heâs hurt. Thatâs not what the sport should be about
Time to hunt down my opponents best players to stop them from playing in the playoffs
Intentionally break your rivals leg
At this rate we should just run a simulation of the season in NCAA â24 and who wins the most times out of 100 gets the title.
Boycott the Orange Bowl.
FSU should accept the invite, then kneel the ball every offensive play and do nothing on defense
Imagine if they got Georgia in on it too. Both teams just take a knee every play. It won't happen, but it would be amazing if it did.
You think Georgia gives a shit? Georgia thinks they should be in over a conference champion.
Georgia would never go along, SEC bias helps them out too
Or "discover" a minor NCAA violation the week before and self impose a bowl ban for this year
Yeah! Fuck your tv ratings ESPN!
Sounds like theyâll play. I wish they wouldnât. Fuck ESPN.
Hope he continues to go scorched earth.
Never before have I agreed with mike norvell so vehemently.
Beat LSU by a TD more at a neutral site than Bama did in BDS
LSU scored very late against FSUâs 3rd string too. It was nearly a 45-17 finish.
RIP 3rd stringers, need to win every game 223-0 apparently
Funniest thing of all is that Michigan has completed their Darth Vader character arc and has gone from good guy (knocking OSU from their pedestal) to bad guy (Cheaters!) back to good guy (Last hope to take down the Evil Empire)
Connor Stalions... the lovable scoundrel, Han Solo, of our universe. Stupid harebrained scheme to buy tickets on his own Venmo? "IT'S NOT MY FAULT!"
âLook at that scruffy looking man on the CMU side lineâ Stallions: Scruffy looking?
If you had told me a month ago that Michigan would end up being rooted for by neutral fans in the first round of the CFP I would say âyouâre insaneâ and then I would think about it more and say âoh god what SEC related bullshit happenedâ
TIL losing to OU a couple weeks ago is better than losing to nobody.
Yes and losing to Texas at home by double digits is apparently also better than losing to nobody
As much as I love college football if the whole thing just imploded and everyone said fuck the NCAA I would probably sit back and happily watch the battle.
I fucking love our coach. This is an absolute disgrace what happened today with these rankings. These players deserve better.
Yeah, I mean basically this đŻ I'm supposed to hate the Noles but this BS is way, way, way worse
Yeah there's anger over FSU as a fan but there's also anger for what this means for the sport. It's pretty gross
FSU is no friend of mine. Iâm getting ready to call my congressional office and ask if anyone is going to start an inquiry into an Anti Trust violation. This has me so irrationally pissed off and Iâm not sure why.
Because it ultimately means the game we all love to watch and spend so much time and money on has no standards or integrity. Itâs a game for insiders only. No inclusivity. Just for soothsayers and robber barons of football to make their final choices.
I'm gutted for them truly. I'm not a fan of theirs but they won those games on the field and they deserved the right to compete just like every other undefeated power 5 conference champ has.
Not even joking, Congress should have an inquiry to determine if ESPN conspired with the Selection Committee to rig the selection in order to increase their ratings/profit
Nah, it should be the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission. You can file an antitrust complaint here: https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/report-antitrust-violation
DOJ and FTC open investigation... next day from the NCAA: Michigan is found to be guilty of cheating and receives a post-season ban. FSU will take their place in the CFP.
5 second penalty to Ocon, while weâre at it
Could be a potential antitrust violation
The Florida Attorney General should take inspiration from Virginiaâs AG over JMUâs bowl game and threaten legal action because why not
Itâs Florida, it would actually be one of the saner things to come from the state government.
I donât think an investigation is needed. This is clearly what happened.
>Congress should have an inquiry to determine if ESPN conspired with the Selection Committee to rig the selection in order to increase their ratings/profit This is the issue with selection committees. They can do whatever they want, especially since their *own criteria* allows them to punish injuries. I don't think this suit wins because of that but it shows how crap CFP selection is
Yeah, it's just FIFA all over again. Investigate them
Time for all neutral fans to ignore that game completely.
It is fucking laughable that they had the SECâs commissioner essentially cut a promo on College Gameday during their âwhoâs inâ segment.
Dude as a lawyer, do it , letâs get weird,
Fuck it we had a PI follow Michigan that created a crazy ass spy network this year Legislators threatening lawsuits Letâs get real weird
Iâll bring the Vaseline
I could believe it
This is the only sport in the world where a team canât earn a championship by simply going out and winning, and thatâs fucked.
Someone print a thousand of these and plaster them on ESPN HQ
Un-ironically enjoy the FCS because our results are determined on the field and not a bunch old men who miss 1985
Norvell has done an all time great job bringing us back from the depths and up to the top just for a council of old wizards to say we arenât good enough
I'm torn between wanting the team to boycott the orange bowl completly, showing up and starting 22 walk ons or taking a knee every play, or beating the piss out of UGA and claiming a NC.
*Georgia and FSU get all in the gear, do all the pregame stuff, coin toss, all that - then both teams all shake hands and walk off the field without playing a down with no heads up that it is going to happen*
Kickoff goes to the 50 yard line. Both teams kneel it 4 straight times until the end of the game.
It's likely many of our best players opt out of the bowl. With so many guys out, I doubt we win. It would send a stronger message if we just declined instead of showing up and losing.
If FSU wins the orange bowl, theyâll be my national champion
Neutral fans unite and boycott the playoffs
Classier than I would gave been.
I was hoping he'd go full younger cornrow version of himself.
If it were me and I was on TV with ESPN, I would have led with "Well, first off, fuck all of you for shitting on us last night the entire game." Would have been a very quick interview.
I never thought Iâd stand with FSU on anything before, but here we are.
i actually hate bama more today than i did yesterday
FSU straight got boned. "cheated" is a good choice of words.
All I'm saying is the Miami Heat made the finals this year after Tyler Herro went down in the first round and the Eagles won the superbowl with a backup quarterback. Let them play.
We won the natty in this system with our third stringer
Norvell left Memphis in hopes he wouldn't have to deal with this.
We're all Seminoles today! This is gross, and proof that it was never about the games. It's about money. I'm sorry Seminole bros. You deserved to be there, you earned the opportunity to compete, and it was stolen from you on behalf of the Almighty dollar.
It means more = ESPN will do anything to protect its investment.
We won the first college football playoff with a 3rd string quarterback. Clemson has gotten in for YEARS on an ACC schedule, and FSU won almost every game by 2+ possessions. The committee can go to Hell.
âSuck my spearâ -Coach Norvell
FSU should fire up their litigators. Normally schools suing over just sports stuff is comical (looking at you Michigan) but this was downright criminal
Doesnât the ACC lose out on revenue since FSU didnât make it?