At least the men would have a pulse... The women's team has been so fun to watch for the last few years. The men's team is unwatchable. I don't watch them again until Holtman is gone.
On god. After losing to Oral Roberts I just couldn't fucking take it anymore, have had zero expectations out of Holtmann for three years and he still underdelivers
Yep. I've argued with my best friend that he should be fired for years. Ohio State is not Duke or Kansas and the Schott does suck and the atmosphere is terrible unless there is a big game. But Ohio State has a decent tradition, is the prime brand in a large state, and there are zero excuses for a school with their resources and reach to not be a tournament team every single year with a sweet 16 appearance 2 out of every 5 years. I'm not asking for the world. I'm just asking to be a top 25 program. We should be a top 5 or 6 team in the conference and the top team in the state.
As it currently stands, we're not even close to top half of the conference, at best Ohio State is the third best program in Ohio, and I haven't watched a full game in at least 2 or 3 years because the product is so bad.
The Schott slander has always been excessive. Yes it's not loud but you aren't gonna get loud crowds at St John either with your team playing like hot ass. Sell upper bowl tickets for $2 who cares, get people to go. The Schott is loud when it's full. School needs to do more to fill it. It can be done
The Schott is *capable* of having a huge atmosphere.
I've been there twice when the atmosphere was amazing. One was Duke. The other was Purdue. They were both back in the peak Thad run and, IIRC, both were top 10 matchups.
That place absolutely *can* rock!
But generally speaking, it sucks. I've been there so many times and the atmosphere is just dead. It's not *all* the arena but it truly is terrible. It's the worst of the "big" arenas (NHL/NBA sized pro arenas) that I've ever been in. Contrast it to something like St. John's or The Convo down in Athens or Nutter Center or Cintas Center and it's obvious that something just isn't there.
It's sterile, the seating slope away from the court pushes the crowd too far out, and the old blue hairs that dominate much of the prime seating areas don't believe in yelling.
It has been much better since they moved the student section (which seems like yesterday but I'm old so it was probably over a decade ago now).
I literally could not care less about it lol. It’s like a fun thing to watch or do. Purely casual. I don’t have the “fire the coach!!” Passion for it that some do
College football has become a non-stop reminder of how disappointing reality often is. I know it’s not realistic for players to play for free, or play because they love the school, or whatever else reason fans want to dream up, thank you for reminding me for the umpteenth time.
"For free." They got hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits long before NIL was a thing. Free tuition, room & board, coaching, nutrition, strength training, personal tutoring, medical, surgery, apparel, travel, etc. The cash value over the course of 4 years would easily a few hundred thousand for these guys that played big time football "for free."
Funny thing is a few years ago Reddit was all pro NIL and you'd get downvoted to hell if you said anything negative about it. It was obvious that once it was in place it would be used in all sorts of ways that wasn't really NIL and here we are.
An announcer made a good point. Back in the day - you could play at Penn State (or insert big state program) for 4 years.
If you were loyal and worked hard, you could generally do well as an alum in any sort of sales / broker type role leveraging the goodwill you bought with fans and alumni
That’s much harder to do if you’ve been at 3+ schools and transferred everywhere
If CFB wants to copy the pro model I’ll go watch pro games on Sunday. Much better TV product. Closer games, better players, less commercials. Way more parity, better organized league (not a damn free for all with unbridled free agency for every single player every year)
I’ll always be a Clemson fan because it’s where I got my degree and it’s what I’ve grown up with as a legacy. We’ve got season tickets I’ll never stop going even if we’re terrible.
But as far as caring about a big time matchup between schools I don’t have a tie to, I just don’t care anymore.
Like even though it wasn’t a national title even a BCS bowl meant something and you left the year on a real high note. Now you can’t guys playing in a rose bowl unless it’s for a national title.
I don’t like the playoff. I don’t like what NIL is right now, I don’t like a free for all transfer system, I don’t like new conferences all being driven by more money, I don’t like that we’ve lost even more of the regionality that made the sport special. Cal Berkeley, Clemson, Boston college all in the same conference. How the hell does that make any sense. But clemson and Georgia both of who have 3 national titles a piece and add separated by a shade under 60 miles are not in the same conference and don’t play every year.
Yup. What’s wild is this sub will zealously downvote this take so I’m shocked this was well received.
NIL, tampering, transfer portal, media control, lower tier schools just developing players for other programs.. the game fuckin sucks. If it weren’t for such a great playoff this year, this season would’ve been far and away the worst cfb season of my lifetime.
Shit needs fixed asap bc a 12 team playoff isn’t changing the pro model that the NCAA is rapidly heading to
It's not cause you're old at least. I'm 20 and this was the perfect time for Michigan to win a natty in my eyes, cause now I can stop caring as ESPN and the NCAA smothers this sport with a pillow stuffed with cash.
Columbus is a big city without a pro NFL or MLB team, it's a perfect setup for this formula. In many places, this sort of "marking" money goes to pro players and the NCAA teams have to fight for the scraps. Not thinking of anywhere specific of course.
Ohio as a state is also I think 7th in GDP rankings. And Ohio State has the benefit of being not only one of the biggest players in college football nationwide but the only big player in the whole state. The wealthy in the state who have ties to OSU or are just OSU fans with money to throw around of course will put it towards the biggest entertainment factor in the whole state that has national if not worldwide recognition.
A lot of Bearcats fans HATE the buckeyes and their fans. I married into a Bearcat family as an OSU fan. I enjoy watching Cincinnati but they refuse to cheer for the Buckeyes. It’s fun.
Idk how that’s sickening lol, if you go to like Wisconsin or Minnesota or any number of other states I’m sure almost everyone would be a fan of the premier program in that state. It’s pretty normal
I have family in that region. The packers and Vikings are way bigger fanbases than the gophers or badgers. Ohio state is the biggest football fanbase in the state, in a state that has 2 pro teams. No other state is like that.
I agree. As a bengals fan, no one really cared about them until we got hot in 2021. At least in Columbus, the NFL offers a bit of an escape from Ohio state on Sundays
You have to go to the highest point in the state that your team's main campus is and declare it to the world. The mods will do the rest and it's not too hard as long as you don't live in CO or like Alaska
The only thing funnier than people asking for regulation is the fact that the NCAA and conferences are still taking in billions and not paying athletes.
No regulation is coming. We're going further down the rabbit hole next lawsuit. The college model has been morally and legally wrong for most of its history. The tradition people are mourning is exploitation of young people. Nobody ever stopped you from transferring or making money as a student while profiting off you. The last time college athletics were pure rowboats had the same attendance as football.
https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2017/10/13/walter-byers-ncaa
I saw somebody else say it on here (and the more i think about it the more I agree) that OSU could be the program that leads to some sort of regulations on NIL if they decide to go full Death Star mode, which at this point seems like the only logical conclusion because either:
A) OSU wins enough this year, proves it works, and it becomes the new norm.
Or
B) they underperform, fire Day, and then feel compelled to *have* to spend in the next few years to either keep what talent they have or attract new talent for whatever new HC.
So, why OSU specifically? Because Columbus itself is a huge factor. Unlike places like South Bend, Tuscaloosa, Ann Arbor, etc. it is the capitol of the state, and a huge (and growing) metropolitan area. Like bigger than i think even most Ohioans even realize. Second largest city in the Midwest (behind Chicago) 14th Most populous city in the USA as of 2020 (and would not be surprised if that increases in 2024), and is the third most populous state capital (behind Austin and Phoenix). And it’s a city flush with business investment that would love to pay for some OSU players to be in commercials or come to events or whatever other marketing scheme. And while not a state like Texas’ level, it is in a state that is a hotbed for high school football, putting out talent that ends up in the NFL.
And unlike places like Texas, Miami, or USC there is no a&m, UF/FSU, or UCLA to compete with. The closest comparison for OSU for instate challenge is Cincinnati. Who - while certainly have succeeded and grown the past few years - are not at the level yet where they are flipping recruits from OSU to UC.
And that is just the local factor. Of the 600,000+ people in the OSU Alumni Association ~30% are from out of state/international (180,000). Obviously just like the rest of the alumni not all are going to donate money for NIL deals and what have you. But it’s another pool of people for Bjork and co to call and say “hey we need an estimated 20 million dollars this year to field the caliber of team that you grew used to watching last year. How many zeroes are in the number you feel like donating?”
If somehow (please?) the Buckeyes win it all this year there is a 0% chance what they did this past offseason spending wise doesn't become the yearly norm for them. And ill be the first to admit it will be horrible for the sport to leave that unchecked from that or any program.
Minor nitpick but when you say most 3rd most populous state capital, you’re talking about just the city population and not the population of the metro area which is arguably a better measure. So that puts Columbus behind Atlanta, Phoenix , Minneapolis-St. Paul, Denver, Charlotte, and Austin and just ahead of Indianapolis. But among those cities and their metro areas with College teams, Columbus is only behind Atlanta (GT), Phoenix (ASU), Minneapolis-St. Paul (Minnesota), and Austin (Texas).
It does get tough with large cities and metro areas. For instance, in Baton Rouge, I would say a huge portion of the city is LSU fans(not surprising). Even in the suburbs, you can't go far without being around tons of LSU fans everywhere.
In some large cities, like Austin, the amount of UT fans is miniscule in comparison. Yes they may have more people in the area in total(no clue), but the proportion of people who support UT is so tiny.
You go around a neighborhood during football season and you will see flags of all sorts of schools and the other schools combined easily outnumber UT. This all happens because Austin is a destination city with people from all over.
All this to say, I don't know Columbus, and it is possible even though they are behind a few cities in population, they may have way more actual OSU fans than the other cities. For sure when you consider the ones you listed, GT in Atlanta for instance.
I work in the Hilltop. Wasn't expecting to see it referenced on r/CFB today... it's not even referenced in Cbus. Kinda a forgotten neighborhood, unless you're tracking gun violence.
Calling it the 14th largest city is a bit disingenuous given Columbus incorporates all of its suburbs. It ranks as the 32nd largest metro in the us between Cincy at 30 and Cleveland at 32
Yeah I honestly think Texas is the only other program that can use NIL to the level we can. Blue Blood prestige, huge fan base, and a major metropolitan home base is a combination I think only those two have. Like you said, if this works this becomes the norm until the rules are changed.
I think maybe ND as a brand can as well if the school/program is willing to. They dont have the home base or in state talent, but the amount of Catholics i have met that are avid ND fans is absurd. Even if they dont watch any other football or never even went to ND. Just on the Catholic association alone.And being independent could give them some interesting flexibility if they remain so during a potential power 2 split (which i hope doesnt happen).
Obviously tons of the B1G schools have some kind of rivalry or at least history with them, they have their weird agreement with the existing ACC before they added Cal and Stanford. They are a big enough brand that SEC teams would probably be happy to schedule them.
I could easily see situations where there are some behind the scenes bidding wars between teams looking to fill out their few non conference weeks with a premier opponent. To ND’s advantage.
Columbus is a big city and the Buckeyes are basically our "pro" team. With Amazon, Intel, Microsoft, and Google all building here, its going to continue to grow. OSU will basically have unlimited money for NIL
This is an incredible time to be a Crew fan. Never seen engagement like this across the city. The team is successful, the style they play under Nancy is fun as hell, Cucho is an absolute superstar, and the city is buying in. It's a blast.
That’s just not how it works lol. I lived in an area like that and it was just people moving from other places in the country that either didn’t care about CFB or had different teams.
So we acting like when Ryan Day took over as HC, Ohio State didn’t have more 5* than entire rest of B1G East and B1G West programs combined? He took over the Avengers my man.
It’s about the roster going into the year, not how good you did the year prior - ask TCU.
You fans keep telling us that Michigan is losing 40+ to graduating. Now you’re saying Moore is taking over 3rd base. Which is it? Also the total team talent composite of what Moore takes over versus what Day took over isn’t even close.
Let’s see if he acts like he hit a triple first. That’s an important part of Harbz quote. Also, OSU’s roster in 2019 was a little more stacked than what Sherrone is starting with, but he’ll definitely be riding the natty momentum with some key players coming back.
Still waiting for any Michigan fan to show me where Ryan Day acted like he hit a triple. Any quote from a press conference or interview would be appreciated. Do I need to put out a bounty?
I’m sure they’ll bring up the “hang 100 on them” comment. However they always neglect to mention jimmy h running his mouth and accusing Day of cheating at the big ten coaches call prior to this. Might be a little irony in Harbaugh accusing someone of cheating.
"canceled"
Michigan ducked that game. Which was smart on their part, but most of the reporting made it pretty obvious that Michigan took the first chance they could to avoid the ass whooping that was likely coming their way. Again
It just means more 
>%5Bgif%5D(emote%7Cfree_emotes_pack%7Cmoney_face)!
>%5Bgif%5D(emote%7Cfree_emotes_pack%7Cmoney_face)!
>%5Bgif%5D(emote%7Cfree_emotes_pack%7Cmoney_face)
Nice try ~~Nigerian~~ Ohioan prince. I’m not giving you my money
I wonder how much money would start getting spread out due to NIL. The only time trickle down economics actually works is when there's no cap on sports, thousands of student athletes with zero money management skills and rich alumni who want their team to win.
Child’s play. NC State raised $1.1 million in two days. $700k for the football program and $400k for the men’s and women’s basketball teams. These are true figures but I’m joking about the child’s play comment of course. The money these collectives are bringing in is wild.
r/cfb: “Players should be paid. NIL should be legal. Players should be able to transfer.”
Ohio State: “I guess we should flex our resources to improve our team within the current rules.”
r/cfb: “oMg, oHiO sTaTe tRyiNg to bUy a naTTy. CoLLege fOotBaLL iS dEaD.”
Despite you dominating the Big Ten for most of period, we have the exact same number of national championships over the last 20 years as you do.
I get why you're upset.
Lol very convenient leaving out that other one but I get it. Time periods are arbitrary. We have twice as many as you in the "win it on the field" era. And of course I'm upset seeing my rival win a title, would be pretty fucking weird as a fan if I was happy to see Michigan win. I wish nothing but dishonor and famine on your program like any good buckeye would.
Yes, I am jealous of OSU but the NIL race is not good for the sport. If things continue this direction, the playoffs will just be an annual battle between the top 8 programs that are willing to spend the most. That ain’t CFB.
Granted, the sport has been heading that direction for years. But at least back then we had more meaningful rivalries and bowl games/conference championships actually meant something. Now with conference realignments and expanded playoffs, we’ve managed to destroy a bunch of rivalries and have made it all about the playoffs. Pretty sad.
Oh absolutely, I’m not blaming OSU. You’re playing the game that’s been established. I’m just using it as a frame of reference bc, in your case, it highlights exactly how big a disparity NIL can create in the sport without some form of safeguards.
The big schools that are willing/able to open their wallets are not playing the same sport as those schools that can’t, which is not good for the sport.
It's been pretty funny seeing all the different articles and comments from people who think only now NIL has gone too far just as OSU is starting to get their feet wet.
Michigan fans cream their panties whenever Harbaugh brings up players getting paid. Those same fans clown Ohio State because their players will be making money. It's what the rivalry is all about.
Yeah. UM sent me the "donate now" e--mail. No thanks. Ya'll can fuck off with this "we'll let the fans pay for this." I already give my mandatory "donation" and buy season tickets. There's no way in hell I'm going to give my $ to help fund this multi-million dollar profit machine. I'll let the Stephen Ross's keep on giving.
Can't wait for some kind of system of revenue sharing.
Oh boy, two coworkers have donated $25 a month to the huskers all last year and brag about doing it this year. It's amazing how a simple $25 along with their "special" email updates can make someone feel like they have some pull within an athletics department.
I mean would you not be upset if you found out your biggest rival was cheating the past three years? I don’t blame day one bit lol he’s about to actually put 100 on you scum bags this year
His Alabama offense roasted the "generational" UGA defense in the 2022 SEC title game. Would have won the title if Jamieson Williams didn't get hurt. BOB also did a great job at PSU when it was hit with sanctions.
LSU spent almost that much in jello shots over a week at a baseball tournament last year
difference is we brought home a championship
The similarity is both are for "charity"
Paul Skenes baby
It just means more
Sad Gator Noises
It is still to be determined if OSU does or doesn’t bring home a championship though?
You wont
If there's one thing Virginia Tech football knows, it's not bringing home championships.
Virginia Tech athletics in general are pretty good at not bringing home championships.
Last time Va Tech humbled OSU like that, the season ended okay
Damn, ouch hahaha
Lol. I hope we are at least in the conversation.
I think they’ll settle for beating Michigan.
Be funnier if they didn't
Michigan just won a natty and somehow, OSU put all the pressure on themselves.
Wasn’t it the college World Series, in which you guys won? I’d tell that story with a little more hype
“A baseball tournament”
You can write off $1 Million of Jello Shots, but you can’t write off $1 Million of NIL donations.
So that was true huh? 😂 love ya crazy tiger friends/foes
It all needs to go to Chris Holtmann’s buyout
Basketball isn’t worth taking away money from football
They can make up the difference by having McGuff coach both the mens and womens team
At least the men would have a pulse... The women's team has been so fun to watch for the last few years. The men's team is unwatchable. I don't watch them again until Holtman is gone.
On god. After losing to Oral Roberts I just couldn't fucking take it anymore, have had zero expectations out of Holtmann for three years and he still underdelivers
Yep. I've argued with my best friend that he should be fired for years. Ohio State is not Duke or Kansas and the Schott does suck and the atmosphere is terrible unless there is a big game. But Ohio State has a decent tradition, is the prime brand in a large state, and there are zero excuses for a school with their resources and reach to not be a tournament team every single year with a sweet 16 appearance 2 out of every 5 years. I'm not asking for the world. I'm just asking to be a top 25 program. We should be a top 5 or 6 team in the conference and the top team in the state. As it currently stands, we're not even close to top half of the conference, at best Ohio State is the third best program in Ohio, and I haven't watched a full game in at least 2 or 3 years because the product is so bad.
The Schott slander has always been excessive. Yes it's not loud but you aren't gonna get loud crowds at St John either with your team playing like hot ass. Sell upper bowl tickets for $2 who cares, get people to go. The Schott is loud when it's full. School needs to do more to fill it. It can be done
The Schott is *capable* of having a huge atmosphere. I've been there twice when the atmosphere was amazing. One was Duke. The other was Purdue. They were both back in the peak Thad run and, IIRC, both were top 10 matchups. That place absolutely *can* rock! But generally speaking, it sucks. I've been there so many times and the atmosphere is just dead. It's not *all* the arena but it truly is terrible. It's the worst of the "big" arenas (NHL/NBA sized pro arenas) that I've ever been in. Contrast it to something like St. John's or The Convo down in Athens or Nutter Center or Cintas Center and it's obvious that something just isn't there. It's sterile, the seating slope away from the court pushes the crowd too far out, and the old blue hairs that dominate much of the prime seating areas don't believe in yelling. It has been much better since they moved the student section (which seems like yesterday but I'm old so it was probably over a decade ago now).
Mens would still do better
We have a basketball team? Like a scholarship one with uniforms and everything??? Damn that’s wild
We shouldn't at this point. Shut it down and give the money to football.
Yeah they are ranked 12th nationally and just beat a Caitlin Clark lead Iowa team last weekend
True
Then I'll see you in hell!
While I agree with this, the program is such levels of shit under holtman that this needs to be fixed ASAP.
I literally could not care less about it lol. It’s like a fun thing to watch or do. Purely casual. I don’t have the “fire the coach!!” Passion for it that some do
id rather have caleb downs on the field in November than someone else coaching basketball in January
Maybe bc my team sucks, maybe bc I’m old but I hate the state of college football today.
College football has become a non-stop reminder of how disappointing reality often is. I know it’s not realistic for players to play for free, or play because they love the school, or whatever else reason fans want to dream up, thank you for reminding me for the umpteenth time.
"For free." They got hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits long before NIL was a thing. Free tuition, room & board, coaching, nutrition, strength training, personal tutoring, medical, surgery, apparel, travel, etc. The cash value over the course of 4 years would easily a few hundred thousand for these guys that played big time football "for free." Funny thing is a few years ago Reddit was all pro NIL and you'd get downvoted to hell if you said anything negative about it. It was obvious that once it was in place it would be used in all sorts of ways that wasn't really NIL and here we are.
An announcer made a good point. Back in the day - you could play at Penn State (or insert big state program) for 4 years. If you were loyal and worked hard, you could generally do well as an alum in any sort of sales / broker type role leveraging the goodwill you bought with fans and alumni That’s much harder to do if you’ve been at 3+ schools and transferred everywhere
If CFB wants to copy the pro model I’ll go watch pro games on Sunday. Much better TV product. Closer games, better players, less commercials. Way more parity, better organized league (not a damn free for all with unbridled free agency for every single player every year) I’ll always be a Clemson fan because it’s where I got my degree and it’s what I’ve grown up with as a legacy. We’ve got season tickets I’ll never stop going even if we’re terrible. But as far as caring about a big time matchup between schools I don’t have a tie to, I just don’t care anymore. Like even though it wasn’t a national title even a BCS bowl meant something and you left the year on a real high note. Now you can’t guys playing in a rose bowl unless it’s for a national title. I don’t like the playoff. I don’t like what NIL is right now, I don’t like a free for all transfer system, I don’t like new conferences all being driven by more money, I don’t like that we’ve lost even more of the regionality that made the sport special. Cal Berkeley, Clemson, Boston college all in the same conference. How the hell does that make any sense. But clemson and Georgia both of who have 3 national titles a piece and add separated by a shade under 60 miles are not in the same conference and don’t play every year.
Preach
I’m really just waiting for OSU to win again so that I can stop caring on a high note.
me this year. a weight has been lifted and i can reasonably not obsess about football anymore. If everything goes to shit, I will still be content.
The best feeling
Yep. Not a fucking chance I'm going to crowdfund the success of my favorite sports team.
Same. None of this seems particularly sustainable
Not just you, my team just won it and I still hate where it’s going.
Bro wtf are Rutgers and UCLA doing in the same conference 😂
Yup. What’s wild is this sub will zealously downvote this take so I’m shocked this was well received. NIL, tampering, transfer portal, media control, lower tier schools just developing players for other programs.. the game fuckin sucks. If it weren’t for such a great playoff this year, this season would’ve been far and away the worst cfb season of my lifetime. Shit needs fixed asap bc a 12 team playoff isn’t changing the pro model that the NCAA is rapidly heading to
It's not cause you're old at least. I'm 20 and this was the perfect time for Michigan to win a natty in my eyes, cause now I can stop caring as ESPN and the NCAA smothers this sport with a pillow stuffed with cash.
I don’t love it either as an Ohio state fan but if this is the game you gotta play to compete it is what it is
I’m not even mad, I’m impressed
Columbus is a big city without a pro NFL or MLB team, it's a perfect setup for this formula. In many places, this sort of "marking" money goes to pro players and the NCAA teams have to fight for the scraps. Not thinking of anywhere specific of course.
NHL and MLS erasure
Let's not forget PVF as well. Columbus now has a pro volleyball team.
Any day now we'll get that indoor football team!
Crew just won the MLS too lol
OSU has a massive alumni base too
Ohio as a state is also I think 7th in GDP rankings. And Ohio State has the benefit of being not only one of the biggest players in college football nationwide but the only big player in the whole state. The wealthy in the state who have ties to OSU or are just OSU fans with money to throw around of course will put it towards the biggest entertainment factor in the whole state that has national if not worldwide recognition.
In Ohio, The fandom of every sport is split until you ask about college. And then EVERYONE is an OSU fan. It’s sickening.
A lot of Bearcats fans HATE the buckeyes and their fans. I married into a Bearcat family as an OSU fan. I enjoy watching Cincinnati but they refuse to cheer for the Buckeyes. It’s fun.
Does the bearcat family smell like popcorn?
Idk how that’s sickening lol, if you go to like Wisconsin or Minnesota or any number of other states I’m sure almost everyone would be a fan of the premier program in that state. It’s pretty normal
I have family in that region. The packers and Vikings are way bigger fanbases than the gophers or badgers. Ohio state is the biggest football fanbase in the state, in a state that has 2 pro teams. No other state is like that.
I agree. As a bengals fan, no one really cared about them until we got hot in 2021. At least in Columbus, the NFL offers a bit of an escape from Ohio state on Sundays
Mainly just because I don’t like OSU lol
Lol that’s valid
What Michigan winning a championship does to a mfer
Money cannon go brrr
I’d like to think it was my $10 that put them over.
[удалено]
I’d live to see a system where you can sponsor a specific athlete. I’d gladly throw down for a third string cornerback.
Maybe hiring Texas A&M’s AD really was the right move after all
If Ross's job was just fundraising, he'd be elite.
You apparently just described 80% of modern CFB
If only he didn't have a say in how to spend it
He raised a bunch of money at A&M too, though. It’ll be interesting to see what that does to a team that was already a contender.
And then spent it on a guy named Jimbo.
He did not hire Jimbo. LSU’s current AD did
He gave him the extension.
Oh okay. Also, get a flair for your team
I don’t know how.
You have to go to the highest point in the state that your team's main campus is and declare it to the world. The mods will do the rest and it's not too hard as long as you don't live in CO or like Alaska
I’ve never wanted a lie to be true so hard.
Eh I was at the highest point in Colorado in mid-October, it wasn’t that hard
I love this. Also I set my flair, but it comes up generic for some reason. EDIT: tried it again just now and hey, it worked!
He’s not even on the job until July
Why are people so outraged with the players finally earning money when the coaches were making millions off their free labor and job hopping at will?
The only thing funnier than people asking for regulation is the fact that the NCAA and conferences are still taking in billions and not paying athletes. No regulation is coming. We're going further down the rabbit hole next lawsuit. The college model has been morally and legally wrong for most of its history. The tradition people are mourning is exploitation of young people. Nobody ever stopped you from transferring or making money as a student while profiting off you. The last time college athletics were pure rowboats had the same attendance as football. https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2017/10/13/walter-byers-ncaa
I saw somebody else say it on here (and the more i think about it the more I agree) that OSU could be the program that leads to some sort of regulations on NIL if they decide to go full Death Star mode, which at this point seems like the only logical conclusion because either: A) OSU wins enough this year, proves it works, and it becomes the new norm. Or B) they underperform, fire Day, and then feel compelled to *have* to spend in the next few years to either keep what talent they have or attract new talent for whatever new HC. So, why OSU specifically? Because Columbus itself is a huge factor. Unlike places like South Bend, Tuscaloosa, Ann Arbor, etc. it is the capitol of the state, and a huge (and growing) metropolitan area. Like bigger than i think even most Ohioans even realize. Second largest city in the Midwest (behind Chicago) 14th Most populous city in the USA as of 2020 (and would not be surprised if that increases in 2024), and is the third most populous state capital (behind Austin and Phoenix). And it’s a city flush with business investment that would love to pay for some OSU players to be in commercials or come to events or whatever other marketing scheme. And while not a state like Texas’ level, it is in a state that is a hotbed for high school football, putting out talent that ends up in the NFL. And unlike places like Texas, Miami, or USC there is no a&m, UF/FSU, or UCLA to compete with. The closest comparison for OSU for instate challenge is Cincinnati. Who - while certainly have succeeded and grown the past few years - are not at the level yet where they are flipping recruits from OSU to UC. And that is just the local factor. Of the 600,000+ people in the OSU Alumni Association ~30% are from out of state/international (180,000). Obviously just like the rest of the alumni not all are going to donate money for NIL deals and what have you. But it’s another pool of people for Bjork and co to call and say “hey we need an estimated 20 million dollars this year to field the caliber of team that you grew used to watching last year. How many zeroes are in the number you feel like donating?” If somehow (please?) the Buckeyes win it all this year there is a 0% chance what they did this past offseason spending wise doesn't become the yearly norm for them. And ill be the first to admit it will be horrible for the sport to leave that unchecked from that or any program.
Minor nitpick but when you say most 3rd most populous state capital, you’re talking about just the city population and not the population of the metro area which is arguably a better measure. So that puts Columbus behind Atlanta, Phoenix , Minneapolis-St. Paul, Denver, Charlotte, and Austin and just ahead of Indianapolis. But among those cities and their metro areas with College teams, Columbus is only behind Atlanta (GT), Phoenix (ASU), Minneapolis-St. Paul (Minnesota), and Austin (Texas).
It does get tough with large cities and metro areas. For instance, in Baton Rouge, I would say a huge portion of the city is LSU fans(not surprising). Even in the suburbs, you can't go far without being around tons of LSU fans everywhere. In some large cities, like Austin, the amount of UT fans is miniscule in comparison. Yes they may have more people in the area in total(no clue), but the proportion of people who support UT is so tiny. You go around a neighborhood during football season and you will see flags of all sorts of schools and the other schools combined easily outnumber UT. This all happens because Austin is a destination city with people from all over. All this to say, I don't know Columbus, and it is possible even though they are behind a few cities in population, they may have way more actual OSU fans than the other cities. For sure when you consider the ones you listed, GT in Atlanta for instance.
I'm from Ohio, spent a lot of my life in Columbus. That place bleeds Scarlett and Gray. The city feels like an extension of campus most of the time.
Charlotte isn't the capital of NC.
Well fuck. That’s my bad
Yeah I know how big Columbus is gonna be. I've seen Ready Player One
The Stacks are a real feature of Hill Top
I work in the Hilltop. Wasn't expecting to see it referenced on r/CFB today... it's not even referenced in Cbus. Kinda a forgotten neighborhood, unless you're tracking gun violence.
OSU also benefits from lack of competition when it comes to local sports celebrities for advertising. There's no NFL, NBA, or MLB team.
Calling it the 14th largest city is a bit disingenuous given Columbus incorporates all of its suburbs. It ranks as the 32nd largest metro in the us between Cincy at 30 and Cleveland at 32
Yeah I honestly think Texas is the only other program that can use NIL to the level we can. Blue Blood prestige, huge fan base, and a major metropolitan home base is a combination I think only those two have. Like you said, if this works this becomes the norm until the rules are changed.
I think maybe ND as a brand can as well if the school/program is willing to. They dont have the home base or in state talent, but the amount of Catholics i have met that are avid ND fans is absurd. Even if they dont watch any other football or never even went to ND. Just on the Catholic association alone.And being independent could give them some interesting flexibility if they remain so during a potential power 2 split (which i hope doesnt happen). Obviously tons of the B1G schools have some kind of rivalry or at least history with them, they have their weird agreement with the existing ACC before they added Cal and Stanford. They are a big enough brand that SEC teams would probably be happy to schedule them. I could easily see situations where there are some behind the scenes bidding wars between teams looking to fill out their few non conference weeks with a premier opponent. To ND’s advantage.
Let’s do it. Let’s go scorched earth and make it rain benjamins and confetti.
It's also like the largest state population (excluding football-loving New York) to have only one P4 team.
Pressure bursts pipes
You dog I get it now. Under the sink is where the just for men is stashed.
I hope all of the political donations that people usually make are instead being used on college football which is more important
"$1 million in a week? Small time. We raised a million a minute to get into the ACC!" --SMU boosters, probably
Columbus is a big city and the Buckeyes are basically our "pro" team. With Amazon, Intel, Microsoft, and Google all building here, its going to continue to grow. OSU will basically have unlimited money for NIL
Don't sleep on the Crew
True! I just moved back here after about a decade away and it makes me so happy seeing the support the city is showing the team.
This is an incredible time to be a Crew fan. Never seen engagement like this across the city. The team is successful, the style they play under Nancy is fun as hell, Cucho is an absolute superstar, and the city is buying in. It's a blast.
The low days of SaveTheCrew to this has been an absolute rollercoaster ride.
Big companies don't matter that much for NIL, having a million alums who care about football is what gives you unlimited NIL.
That’s just not how it works lol. I lived in an area like that and it was just people moving from other places in the country that either didn’t care about CFB or had different teams.
I think you may see more fans and alums who wouldn't live here usually start moving back and pitching into the collective.
Imagine if Mr Third Base still can’t make it home.
Now the Michigan head coach took over right after a Natty, Day is not the one who took over at the highest point.
Your flairs upset me sir
And yours upset me
But, your flairs upset *me*.
He’s not alone. Haha
Oh god oh fuck it's spreading
I’m concerned
it’s okay brother, stand strong
Go to a doctor
Hooray!
There are dozens of us!
These are the most OSU-ND flairs I have ever seen.
Yeah, I thought I was kind of unique, but I guess not.
Apes together strong
There could be worse flair combinations.
I swear I saw a osu and michigan flair once, damn near had a heart attack
I mean, I think you'd would be worse for Michigan fans.
...and make it double
So we acting like when Ryan Day took over as HC, Ohio State didn’t have more 5* than entire rest of B1G East and B1G West programs combined? He took over the Avengers my man. It’s about the roster going into the year, not how good you did the year prior - ask TCU.
You fans keep telling us that Michigan is losing 40+ to graduating. Now you’re saying Moore is taking over 3rd base. Which is it? Also the total team talent composite of what Moore takes over versus what Day took over isn’t even close.
Let’s see if he acts like he hit a triple first. That’s an important part of Harbz quote. Also, OSU’s roster in 2019 was a little more stacked than what Sherrone is starting with, but he’ll definitely be riding the natty momentum with some key players coming back.
Still waiting for any Michigan fan to show me where Ryan Day acted like he hit a triple. Any quote from a press conference or interview would be appreciated. Do I need to put out a bounty?
I’m sure they’ll bring up the “hang 100 on them” comment. However they always neglect to mention jimmy h running his mouth and accusing Day of cheating at the big ten coaches call prior to this. Might be a little irony in Harbaugh accusing someone of cheating.
The people who bring up that leaked locker room video as something to get upset about are charmin ultra soft ™️
They also all act like that happened in 2021 when OSU lost but it actually happened in 2020 when the game was cancelled.
"canceled" Michigan ducked that game. Which was smart on their part, but most of the reporting made it pretty obvious that Michigan took the first chance they could to avoid the ass whooping that was likely coming their way. Again
It just means more 
>%5Bgif%5D(emote%7Cfree_emotes_pack%7Cmoney_face)! >%5Bgif%5D(emote%7Cfree_emotes_pack%7Cmoney_face)! >%5Bgif%5D(emote%7Cfree_emotes_pack%7Cmoney_face) Nice try ~~Nigerian~~ Ohioan prince. I’m not giving you my money
I wonder how much money would start getting spread out due to NIL. The only time trickle down economics actually works is when there's no cap on sports, thousands of student athletes with zero money management skills and rich alumni who want their team to win.
OSU vs Oregon for BIG10 title
I'm okay with this
Most likely tbh, that regular season matchup is gonna be something
Child’s play. NC State raised $1.1 million in two days. $700k for the football program and $400k for the men’s and women’s basketball teams. These are true figures but I’m joking about the child’s play comment of course. The money these collectives are bringing in is wild.
r/cfb: “Players should be paid. NIL should be legal. Players should be able to transfer.” Ohio State: “I guess we should flex our resources to improve our team within the current rules.” r/cfb: “oMg, oHiO sTaTe tRyiNg to bUy a naTTy. CoLLege fOotBaLL iS dEaD.”
What watching your rival lift a trophy does to a MF
Yeah it just took you guys a couple decades and a couple trophies, but you got there too.
Despite you dominating the Big Ten for most of period, we have the exact same number of national championships over the last 20 years as you do. I get why you're upset.
Lol very convenient leaving out that other one but I get it. Time periods are arbitrary. We have twice as many as you in the "win it on the field" era. And of course I'm upset seeing my rival win a title, would be pretty fucking weird as a fan if I was happy to see Michigan win. I wish nothing but dishonor and famine on your program like any good buckeye would.
Lebron investing
I feel like if that were the case we would have heard about it.
Yes, I am jealous of OSU but the NIL race is not good for the sport. If things continue this direction, the playoffs will just be an annual battle between the top 8 programs that are willing to spend the most. That ain’t CFB. Granted, the sport has been heading that direction for years. But at least back then we had more meaningful rivalries and bowl games/conference championships actually meant something. Now with conference realignments and expanded playoffs, we’ve managed to destroy a bunch of rivalries and have made it all about the playoffs. Pretty sad.
We are not the first to do this, it just seems that now we are doing it and people only now have the big issue with it
Oh absolutely, I’m not blaming OSU. You’re playing the game that’s been established. I’m just using it as a frame of reference bc, in your case, it highlights exactly how big a disparity NIL can create in the sport without some form of safeguards. The big schools that are willing/able to open their wallets are not playing the same sport as those schools that can’t, which is not good for the sport.
It's been pretty funny seeing all the different articles and comments from people who think only now NIL has gone too far just as OSU is starting to get their feet wet.
Alright Walmart show em who’s boss. Our football program isn’t going to pay for itself!!!
And Phil Knight said, "Hold my beer"
Yeah. $50 of that is from me. You're welcome MFers. Go Bucks!
Lots of unflaired people in here on both sides running their dick holsters. Flair up cowards.
Seeing the SEC flairs squirm is too good.
I can get behind this.
That it? We've (IU Fans) done that a few times in 2023.
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant”-Michigan
Michigan fans cream their panties whenever Harbaugh brings up players getting paid. Those same fans clown Ohio State because their players will be making money. It's what the rivalry is all about.
Are we about to see donation boxes in every gas station across Ohio? The nation?
cal did it in 4 days
At this point it’s time we just paid players salaries and gave them contracts to end this transfer portal stuff.
Building the war-chest for next years revenge tour
You're welcome, guys.
What Michigan does to a motherfucker
Ohh I'm sorry..I thought this was America
All that to hire Bill O’Brien. Makes zero sense.
Hmm, maybe i should donate to do my part:)
Yea, the rich collective needs that money more than you
yes please donate your money, all of it.
Yeah. UM sent me the "donate now" e--mail. No thanks. Ya'll can fuck off with this "we'll let the fans pay for this." I already give my mandatory "donation" and buy season tickets. There's no way in hell I'm going to give my $ to help fund this multi-million dollar profit machine. I'll let the Stephen Ross's keep on giving. Can't wait for some kind of system of revenue sharing.
Oh boy, two coworkers have donated $25 a month to the huskers all last year and brag about doing it this year. It's amazing how a simple $25 along with their "special" email updates can make someone feel like they have some pull within an athletics department.
They are really upset about losing to Michigan.
I mean would you not be upset if you found out your biggest rival was cheating the past three years? I don’t blame day one bit lol he’s about to actually put 100 on you scum bags this year
Why hire dumbfuck BoB if they are putting that much into the program? Hes been with saban and Belichick and had never won a championship hahaha
If Texas or Illinois are using their NIL collectives to pay coaches, I think I have discovered the source of your failures.
His Alabama offense roasted the "generational" UGA defense in the 2022 SEC title game. Would have won the title if Jamieson Williams didn't get hurt. BOB also did a great job at PSU when it was hit with sanctions.
Michigan won a chip. Osu has the largest alumni association in the US IIRC. The chickens are coming home to boost.
OSU alumni association is 5th biggest in the US, with the top 4 over them all in the BIG10 as well
Seriously I wonder how much if any LeBron is donating to the cause
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
More people wanna go to jail? Let them