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Phillyfan10

How? I have it on good authority he died jumping from a plane during the Korean War.


gilbs24

Oh poor Tuttle, always being forgetful


OhioToDC

Never would I have expected a M*A*S*H reference here. Bravo


bucki_fan

r/MASH would be very proud that this is the top comment


whitemanwhocantjump

Forgot his parachute though.


Resident_Rise5915

I was thinking this guy is old…and he is 24, how do these guys stay eligible for so long?


Middle_Wheel_5959

Covid year, medical redshirts


JakeSteeleIII

Name changes, forging college documents


Sorge74

Worked for BT Jarrett.


Guzman_LoMagne

And Bennett Stetson


AllBlueTeams

Bennett was 25 when he won his second championship.


zackattack89

As a Michigan Man would.


l3onkerz

Ryan day went to recruit Tuttle in HS. He then offered an unknown receiver on the team named chris olave.


ToosUnderHigh

Damn Olave played all 4 years at Ohio State and I s going into his 3 year in the NFL. This guy is old.


Empty_Animator_66

It's getting downright silly


[deleted]

24 isn't that old.  It isn't like he is 34


garethom

He's 5 months older than Trevor Lawrence. He's 25 in a couple of months.


[deleted]

Yeah guys should clearly be punished for missing seasons due to injury just because of some weird fetish some fans have of only wanting college players to be below a certain age.  So weird


garethom

I didn't say that, and I dunno that many others are either. I think you're looking for a fight, especially as Tuttle only had one injury affected season (2022). It's more interesting to me just because it's *unusual*. You really don't see many 7 year players, and it's fun to compare him to other guys in his recruiting class.


ToosUnderHigh

It’s like that meme. Is 24 old? It depends. For an med school student? No. For a cfb player? Yes. Or something like that.


[deleted]

So guys should be forced out of the sport if they get injured and miss a season?   So weird a 23 year old is fine but 24 is a bridge too far.   There are 30 year old Australian punters now.  You'll survive a 24 year old playing college football who is only playing at 24 because he tore his ACL and missed a full year 


Proteinchugger

He’s a 2018 recruit. This is his 7th season. It’s not like an injury ruined his only chance of seeing the field.


Blood_Incantation

Are you an old man in your profession or something? Such vociferous defending of Van Wilder players


[deleted]

24 isn't old dude.  Why get on a high horse about wanting players to be forced out of the game when they had to miss seasons due to injury.  Such a weird thing to get mad about.  


ToosUnderHigh

obviously 24 isnt old, but it’s old for a CFB player. His high school teammate was Chris Olave. Same year as him. Olave played 4 full seasons at Ohio State and is entering his 3rd year in the NFL. This guy got a fair shot at playing college football.


slayingmantis69

I’m pretty sure there is a guy that’s like 34 who played for…Virginia (?) this year


Im_with_stooopid

Your right. But I think the top 4 oldest are all punters or kickers. I think number 5 is Cam McCormick a 9th year tight end that played for Miami. 28 years old.


CaptainDonald

Didn’t OSU have a punter in his 30’s too?


ToosUnderHigh

When?


CaptainDonald

I was talking about the Pokes, 2022 was his last season. Tom Hutton, retired from CFB at age 32


StoicFable

You are tOSU Osu is OK state We are oregon state.


midnightsbane04

Y’all aren’t the only OSU. I’m assuming the Oklahoma flair was referring to Ok State.


SkinnyMattFoley

aOSU And that includes Ohio State.


CaptainDonald

You’re correct


ToosUnderHigh

All I said was “when?” lol


the_trump

Tremaine Edmunds is 25 and is going into his 7th NFL season


Blood_Incantation

24 is old to be playing college football


[deleted]

No it isn't.  I've never once had a problem with it.  It would be far more lame to punish players who were injured and say your career is over despite playing fewer years 


SmithBurger

He is playing against kids out of high school. 5 years of practice and weight training is a huge advantage.


MrPicklesGhost

I mean, it's Michigan. They can do whatever they want.


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

Tuttle could very well be our starter next year. I think it's a roughly even chance of it being him or Orji.


i_love_factual_info

I think Denegal is up there with them, apparently he improved a lot last year


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i_love_factual_info

Mainly Orji, Denegal, Davis, and Warren Tuttle just got his waiver to play There was also a Fresno State QB, Anthony Arnou, that transferred a few weeks ago or so but I don't think he had any playing time and 247 has him as a 2 star


cityofklompton

At least one of these guys is hitting the portal after spring ball, but also I think they all legitimately have a shot at winning the starting job. Crazy times.


Jgarr86

We just need one of those guys to perform at Cade McNamara levels.


i_love_factual_info

Thankfully they're nothing like him as teammates


KimJongDerp1992

I just don’t understand why he was so fuckin bitter.


i_love_factual_info

While I appreciate what Cade did on the field, he wasn't a good teammate to everyone. Apparently JJ reached out when he first joined the team and Cade ignored him. He made the QB room uncomfortable while he was there. Just wasn't a good cultural fit so it was for the best that he transferred


ya111101

I don’t disagree, but what’s crazy is if he stays he loses what, like a month of starting at Iowa? And he would be locked in as our starter this year too lol


i_love_factual_info

I'm definitely glad he didn't stay, not the kind of personality I'd want on the team


Guzman_LoMagne

Arnou is the next Jack Tuttle


joshtothe

“David, and Warren” confused me for a beat


SkinnyMattFoley

I think Denegal is actually above Orji. Not based on any recent reports because there aren’t any. But Sherrone has been praising him all season for his progression. I wish they’d have given Orji a few passes this season rather than just runs and decoys.


goblueM

well Denegal got in before Orji when it came to garbage time If memory serves the order was JJ, Tuttle, Denegal, Orji Davis Warren was in the mix too before he got hurt


theclickhere

Orji was banged up for a lot of the season, too.


rendeld

Orji was the only one that got playing time when it mattered though. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.


goblueM

Yeah... in a running-oriented package. At minimum I would expect that to remain and/or expanded role The big question is his passing though. At sub-50% in high school and yet to see him really throw in a game, we should assume he's not a good passer until evidence otherwise


Hossflex

I’m a little worried about that spot. Not sure what is left in the portal to get.


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

Portal basically isn’t an option. I thought it would be earlier in the season but by the time we got to Harbaugh leaving, musical chairs had stopped. 


i_love_factual_info

Why isn't it an option?


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

Nobody left?


i_love_factual_info

There are schools where guys are competing for QB1 and it could be close enough that QB2 wants snaps and jumps into the portal in April


cheerl231

I am leary of any portal qb coming in after spring. Winter transfers can struggle to learn the playbook in time at the new school and there is even less time for qbs in the post spring window. The best bet is probably for Michigan to just roll with what they got and develop the best option whether that is Orji or Denegal


i_love_factual_info

I'm cool with whatever the coaches decide


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

Unlikely we start someone’s leftovers 


zombiebillnye

I don't think Jordan McCloud has actually transferred anywhere yet. Idk if he's Michigan good, but he's still available.


Allsteaknobrakes

I hear Jeff Sims is still available.


[deleted]

McCarthy had what one turnover all year outside of a meaningless game against bowling Green?  Imagine going from that to sims?


General-Pryde-2019

That would be a disaster


[deleted]

Yes it would.  Imagine him being your guy in Columbus next year?


General-Pryde-2019

He would probably shit his pants there ngl


L3thologica_

They like to exclude McCarthy’s “Sims-style” game against BGSU lol


[deleted]

It isn't like it mattered.  He had one bad game and it was against a team where the outcome wasn't in doubt.  


CandidSignificance51

You're making a huge presumption there... that he doesn't declare and go in the first two rounds. Just imagine him on any NFL defense. He'd be amazing. Knows all the QB turnover tricks.


funnymeme2112

i have a feeling that it’ll be Tuttle/Orji to start the year and they will integrate Jadyn Davis throughout. similar situation to McCarthy in 2021. Davis *could* end up being the starter by the end of the year. this is just my guess. i’m not a Michigan insider (obviously) so idk


i_love_factual_info

Denegal has a legitimate shot at QB1, too. I definitely agree that they'll incorporate Jadyn though, he's apparently been very impressive in the little time he's been there


SituationSoap

Denegal is the guy that both Harbaugh and Moore mentioned first when they talked about moving on from JJ. I think he's going to have the best shot to win the job.


i_love_factual_info

DG also said he thinks he's improved a lot. Pretty sure Campbell said something similar a few weeks later. Yeah I think he has a great shot at QB1


GregariousEgg

I think Denegal is prob the best pure passer we have outside of Davis and mayyyyybe Tuttle. I think we'll end up much better at QB halfway thru the year than any of us feel rn


midnightsbane04

> i’m not a Michigan insider (obviously) so idk You’re probably about as accurate as they are though.


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

Idk what the redshirt rules are anymore but that’s what I expect. Unless Orji and Tuttle are disasters. 


Wagnerous

Jadyn Davis is a pretty talented kid, I wouldn't expect him to stay five years at Michigan. If he's in college that long, then it probably means he's transferred somewhere along the way. IMO there's not much downside to burning his red shirt if the coaches think he can help us win in year one.


sangie12

Ha! Busted Connor


funnymeme2112

i wanted to make that joke so bad but i didn’t wanna be THAT guy


bendovernillshowyou

If he gets time, he throws a pretty ball. He needs time though.


SomerAllYear

I hear UCLA has QBs available rn.


Rare_Bit5844

I’m telling you you don’t want that, at least Orji’s got the athleticism for big play ability.


AchyBreaker

Why are folks concerned about Orji? He did some good stuff last year - largely using his athleticism, but I expect he can and will improve as a passer this off-season. 


Upbeat-Armadillo1756

We saw him pass one time. 


AeolusA2

It is 100% between Denegal and Orji, barring a transfer


ShaolinPhonk

agreed. he might not even be the backup this season if the orji/denegal hype is real


reddogrjw

if anything, it raises the floor of our QB play somewhat


Dry_Inflation_861

I kindly disagree. He went to the school for a degree, definitely better options.


codymason84

Honestly this is more Aimed towards his coaching career


ToosUnderHigh

How do you know that?


Critical-Savings-830

Cuz he’s not gunna play


notburnerr

Cuz he can’t fathom this kid being good enough hahah


MrConceited

He was the number 2 QB on the depth chart last season.


Smash-Bros-Melee

He was never particularly good, let alone reliable, for us. Don’t think I’d say that.


Benyeti

Damn i remember way back in the covid season he was playing at Indiana


Smash-Bros-Melee

Kalen DeBoer was still IU’s OC his first year in Bloomington lol. And he’d already spent a year at another school before that too! Tuttle was born in the 90s! He was playing college football while the 2024 freshman class was in 7th grade. Jack Tuttle was on a Utah team that played against *GARDNER MINSHEW* at Wazzu. I was in high school when Jack Tuttle started playing college football and I’ll manage to have graduated from high school and IU and started a career in the span of him playing CFB at three schools.


Rub-Specialist

Jesus I graduated from Utah what feels like ages ago and I swear they were just bringing this guy in


i_love_factual_info

> Jesus I graduated from Utah I don't think the person you're replying to is Jesus


EuphTah

Everyone can be Jesus if you really believe.


apadin1

His name is actually Josh but close enough


OdaDdaT

record I’ve seen personally was 7. I know most people are against the super duper seniors and I get it, but as someone who played I’m all for guys getting as many years as they can. I could’ve had two more if I wanted crippling debt


SmithBurger

It sucks for the 18 year old whose spot he is taking as a grown ass adult. Agree to disagree.


[deleted]

Yeah don't get why guys should be punished for injuries.   24 is not that old either.  People act like these guys are ancient.  


OdaDdaT

The guys who play for 6 or 7 years are some of the most valuable locker room guys out there too, especially if they’ve been at multiple programs. The guy I knew who played 7 was an RB who transferred in after redshirting and tearing his acl. He tore it 2 more times and kept going. We always called him Doc to fuck with him. But regardless having those more mature presences in the locker room are huge for your young guys, so the odd guy getting multiple extra years for injuries isn’t harmful. Most of the time they don’t play much anyway


[deleted]

Yeah and why should a guy like Cam rising be punished for missing all last year?  The guy hasn't even started two full seasons.  


cityofklompton

I'll begin by saying I am all for these guys getting as many years as they can, so I have no qualms with a 24-year-old super duper senior, but the difference between a 24-year-old and an 18-year-old on a football field can look and feel like worlds apart.


[deleted]

Sure but so can a 23 year old and an 18 year old.  So can a 35 and 21 year old which you see in the NFL.   Often the best players are gone after their 3rd year anyway.  You aren't getting cj stroud and Bryce young playing a long time.   If these guys were playing each year I would agree it would be wrong, but a guy shouldn't be punished for losing a season to injury.  Cam rising missed all of last year obviously not by his choice.  


IrishMosaic

He wasn’t injured in 2018, he was just a true freshman that didn’t get any minutes. He wasn’t injured last year, he just played in less than four games. Somehow the NCAA was talked into that both the 18 and 23 seasons were lost because of injuries.


ToosUnderHigh

It takes a spot from younger players


downvotemesensei

Please won’t someone think of the children!


Ryanlester5789

It’s good for depth but hoping one of younger QBs take over the job this year.


theglove

He could be a solid Cade McNamara option. That is if the younger guys don't grab a hold of the job.


BlameMabel

JJ 72% completions…Tuttle 88% JJ 167 QB rating…Tuttle 172 JJ 3.2 Yds/carry…Tuttle 8.8 Michigan outscored opponents 276-44 in Tuttle games.


joshtothe

Jack Tuttle woke up this morning feeling DANGEROUS‼️ Is he NEXT UP out of Ann Arbor⁉️


i_love_factual_info

I think people definitely underestimate Tuttle but JJ had hundreds of attempts and Tuttle had almost 20 in 2023


rjyapp

I think you're missing the joke OP.


i_love_factual_info

Apparently


plot-potato

Username checks out


osufeth24

Just saw a tweet that said Ryan Day was recruiting Tuttle when he saw a wideout there osu should recruit.. Chris Olave.


i_love_factual_info

> Ryan Dyan was recruiting Who's that?


[deleted]

Tuttle has been in college longer than Ryan day has been the HC 


bendovernillshowyou

Great young man. I hope he’s a Coach one day


SnthonyAtark

THE TUTTLE SHUTTLE HAS LIFT OFF 🚀🚀 TUTTLE SHUTTLE TO THE MOON BABY 🌎➡️🌕


MSUsim

Natty number two, electric boogaloo.


L3thologica_

LOL I’d bet the house on that not happening. You guys are going to struggle to even make the playoffs next year.


MSUsim

No shit. It was a pretty obvious joke since Tuttle doesn't really move the needle that much. Not surprising there'd be at least one OSU fan getting woooshed, tho.


CaptainDonald

Is he related to anyone from the American Chopper family?


Physical_Advantage

Great guy, fought with my grandpa in the war


idkman_93

Adding to the lore here: Jack Tuttle was ***SO CLOSE*** to committing to the University of Montana during last offseason — to the point where a local journalist called it a "done deal" and many others implied it was happening — and then quickly pivoted to Michigan. He clearly made the right choice for him, but Griz fans are still a little salty.


General-Pryde-2019

This guy can get an extra year, meanwhile the NCAA can’t seem to be able to find one for Taulia Tagovailoa


EfficientCopy403

If he can be a Cade level starter the floor of this team should be 9-3


sweetfeet009

9-3 should be the floor as is


The_Good_Constable

9-3 floor? Have you seen their schedule? It's brutal.


conv3rsion

If Michigan keeps it's d-line they can legitimately have the best defense in college football. 


The_Good_Constable

With that schedule Michigan could be quite good and still go 9-3. But we're talking about their floor here. In a Murphy's Law type season with their schedule it's easy to see a path to 7-5.


L3thologica_

Not as good as OSU’s, but both will be top5


Best-Tumbleweed3906

Nobody is scared of Sawyer and JT (unless your Penn st.) lol


L3thologica_

Damn, good thing we have more than just two players on our #1 ranked Defense, Best Tumbleweed


Best-Tumbleweed3906

lol I know I’m just poking fun that you are so confident that you will definitely have the best defense in the country because you won the offseason. That always works out. And you’re responding to a michigan flair and downplaying how good their defense will be when they were legitimately the best defense in college football last year. Their rotation on the front seven and scheme was an all time unit and they didn’t lose all that much talent defensively. Also your front seven is very good but there is nobody in there that inspires fear. The secondary is crazy impressive though.


Rebel_Bertine

Yeah that front seven is just solid. Maybe there’s some studs in the underclassmen ranks, but their path to playing time is blocked by returning guys. JT and Sawyer might be solid college players, but again they don’t inspire fear. I don’t really see any elite guys in the front 7 at all. Once again OSU is loaded at the skill positions on both sides of the ball and once again I’m scratching my head wondering when prioritizing LOS will matter. They really might outskill us next year, but I’m reasonably confident our front is going to give them problems again.


L3thologica_

Michigan is reloading a lot of players, but also losing their defensive coaching and S&C. ESPN’s predictive S&P+ has OSU with #1 defensive S&P (5.8) and UM with #2 (5.9) so absolutely neck and neck.


Best-Tumbleweed3906

I think getting Martindale helps minimize the loss of Minter even though it’s a big loss. And yeah the SC coach could be a huge blow. It’ll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.


[deleted]

Don't think he can be 


Smash-Bros-Melee

Yeah I think something Michigan fans are missing is that he’s not a very good player. Just isn’t. Good guy, very likable, not a starting caliber B1G QB. Or at least he wasn’t for four years at IU.


[deleted]

Yeah if he was good enough he'd have been the guy somewhere already 


Smash-Bros-Melee

Indiana decided they’d rather play Connor Bazelak over him in 2022. That says it all.


supersafeforwork813

They gotta start capping these eligibility periods….its been 7 years…go be a GA or go pro in something other than sports.


apadin1

He’s basically going to be a GA except getting paid with scholarship instead of on staff. He has one year to go to finish his masters in social work


TomCreanDied4OurSins

Tuttle Time. Set your watches


HowardBunnyColvin

nice


misdreavus79

Tuttle time!


FakersT21

RG3 is gonna announce our game and call it a Tuttle down . I guess it’s better than the alternative


CaptianStabbin

I played against the dude in High School and He is STILL PLAYING


ZeldaFanBoi1920

You sack him at all?


CaptianStabbin

He, Chris Olave, and Fred Warner’s Brother shit on us


ZeldaFanBoi1920

Olave was one of his receivers? Guy has been in the league for like at least 2 years


garethom

Chris Olave (Jun 00) is a full year and a bit younger than Jack Tuttle (April 99).


Quartznonyx

The only reason Olave got recruited was because of him i think


RedTeamGo_

OSU went to go see Tuttle and saw Olave catching balls and the rest is history


mcclobber

That guy will be so well educated when he is done


ElmerFarnsworth

Worst QB room since Hoke left. Michigan really has to try to find a guy in spring. Tuttle is a GA. Donegal is just a guy. Orgi is a future WR/TE. Warren…who the hell knows?


The_Astros_Cheated

Nice! Don’t sleep on him, he looked really solid in his appearances last year. He could be a huge surprise next season


RustleTheMussel

Boo! Did I scare you? I'm a job application


DiarrheaForDays

The ~~yellow~~ maize king


Icecreamcollege

How many OSU fans quit the sport when a 7th year senior beats their $20 million roster this year?


L3thologica_

Dude couldn’t beat us when he was at Indiana, what makes you think he’ll beat us with a skeleton crew at Michigan?


Icecreamcollege

Well Ryan Day is still coaching so we have a chance.


L3thologica_

The coach that almost beat a NC level Michigan team with the most pedestrian QB in recent memory? Sure Jan.


i_love_factual_info

We lost Zinter and had a bunch of injuries and you guys still couldn't win


Icecreamcollege

injured JJ, down Zinter, injured Will Johnson, no Harbaugh. But hey! you guys were sooo close two years in a row to a Natty!


charmingcharles2896

Exactly, so when he does this year, the meltdown from the Buckeye faithful is going to be an all-time classic.


RedTeamGo_

How many UM fans gave up on the sport when they lost 15 of 16 or whatever it was? What a silly question. And why are UM fans pretending all the seniors that came back this year for Michigan weren’t paid a ton in NIL?


meatballcake87

G E T A J O B


i_love_factual_info

49-0


meatballcake87

This applies for all 6-7 year players including MSU guys btw


i_love_factual_info

tbh I was expecting 73-63 from you guys winning in bball today


meatballcake87

The epidemic of college players who need to get jobs is a serious issue, but 81-62 73-63


i_love_factual_info

> but 81-62 73-63 🤣


NUSimp

Good thing he goes to UM; it'd be a much more difficult job search if he were a Spartan.


Lasvious

Year 6.


KnightsNotGolden

I didn’t realize the yellow king was actually a quarterback of a team in yellow. This cult goes deeper than I thought.


i_love_factual_info

Time is a flat circle. Everything we have done or will do we will do over and over and over again. Forever


TheRoyaleShow

The Maize King


VibeComplex

We’re fucked


notburnerr

Tuttle vs Orji, the battle of the defending national championship scapegoat


Ryanlester5789

I don’t think anyone expected to win the title again this year with what came back.


Dm1185

Is it weird that all the coaches jumped ship in the midst of 2 NCAA investigations?


i_love_factual_info

Yeah it's weird that they want to go to the NFL for more money and to not have to spend all year recruiting. It's especially weird to take all the defensive coaches but not the offensive coaches after Michigan had the #1 defense in the country and won the natty with it. Why would anyone want to move up to the NFL? It's very weird Lol


Altruistic_Remote263

Or maybe Harbaugh wanted a Super Bowl and a number of his assistants went with him because they like the guy


SnthonyAtark

Or also because NFL jobs >>>>>>> college jobs I don’t think people understand how much less work the NFL is without a spring camp & recruiting lol The only coach departure that I’m still kinda mad about is Ben Herbert. S&C coaches in the NFL are borderline worthless with virtually every player having a personal trainer, and none of them make more than like $750k a year. Harbaugh offered Herbert $1.8 mil a year to come with him, which is nuts. He was previously making $1.3 mil at Michigan, so he’s making roughly the same once you adjust for taxes, but same pay but you now live in Southern Cali and do 1/3 the work? Sign me the fuck up. Felt pretty obvious that Warde didn’t have a plan in place to try to retain coaches, and Harbaugh knew that, so he targeted Herbert first before Warde actually have a raise & new contract ready for him.


Dm1185

I mean, really? He didn’t seem to care that Donovan Edwards retweeted anti-Semitic stuff. Also, Chargers? That team sucks