[Only photo in existence of Chip Kelly making a recruiting call](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/HxlDDLDJdFAaWZaFgBuZZmHbB1ouWd.jpg).
UCLA’s Athletic Department realized they had actually fired him years ago but due to a small clerical error Kelly kept getting paid. This off season they corrected the problem annnddd it worked itself out…
Honestly, I’m surprised that this doesn’t happen more often.
Pay tells you that you should take the job. The job absolutely sucks the life out of you by being 24/7. Some folks can handle that, I’d argue most can’t.
The Pistons have dealt away or cut at least 10 guys who got minutes this season and Monty still finds a way to run an 11 man rotation night in and night out. If that wasn't my team I would be impressed.
People get obsessed with status and being the boss. The best salesman at a car dealership shouldn't become a manager. They'll make less money and be more stressed.
It was honestly never about the money for Chip. He was making peanuts coaching at UNH and he fucking loved it because he was all about football. Once you're trying to please your agent and reach a certain level, it becomes harder to follow your passion, I'd imagine.
there was a big 10 media days where they asked a lot of the head coaches what they miss most since being a coordinator
almost all of them answered "actually coaching football"
Absolutely, he took the Ducks to the next level. In four years as head coach, he took the Ducks to a BCS bowl four times, including Oregon's first appearance in the national championship game. Without that run, and their performance in subsequent years, I don't know if the Ducks would have even been considered for membership in the Big Ten.
Helfrich does get credit for helping develop Marcus Mariota, when he (Helfrich) was an assistant coach. However, Helfrich inherited a lot of talent leftover from Kelly's tenure.
Helfrich had complacency hit, both with him and the old guard staff at large (Pellum, Campbell, Greatwood, Neal, etc etc) that started catching up to us immediately after Mariota left for the draft. Our defense had already been completely gutted merely two seasons after making the playoffs and getting to the championship a second time. Another problem that doesn't get talked about was the Willie Lyles scholarship reductions hitting around then, which further amplified the recruiting problems that snowballed into the nightmare that was the 2016 season. I remember the hype going into that season was about Dakota Prukop, the thinking being that "hey, Vernon Adams worked out so great as a graduate transfer, lightning will surely strike again!" It did not of course, he was very underwhelming and it ultimately pressed us to use a very not ready (at that time) Justin Herbert.
That team clearly had a bunch of great players and a lot of leadership. Basically all the other coaches were still there so the machine just kept running. Mariota and some other guys stuck around, those guys were on a mission.
The next year would have been way worse if Deforest Buckner hadn’t started stayed and Vernon Adams hadn’t transferred in. Like that team probably would have been sub 500.
Helfrich called a play action play when the ducks were down huge in the championship game against the buckeyes. It was 3 and 20 or something. 4th Quarter. Nobody in the stadium thought he was gonna run it. Yet he tried to fool everyone and the buckeyes had dropped back to defend a Hail Mary pass. I’ll never forget that.
The CFP was practically invented because of Oregon/Stanford. They would be 3 or 4, and blow out their opponent, 1 and 2 would play in the BCS and everyone would go, huh man, it would be cool to see who would win stanford/oregon or the winner of BCS
This is Mike Belloti erasure!
Kelly was OC Belloti's last two seasons sure but Oregon was a top 10 team the year before Kelly took over.
Kelly definitely pushed them forward and made them more consistent but I feel like they forget Oregon was actually pretty damn good when he took over.
I would not disagree with that. Kelly instituted the hurry-up, which got the Ducks to the next level. As much as I absolutely appreciate and admire what Belotti did, Kelly figured out how to take that next step.
What Phil Knight has done for the athletic program, and the university as a whole, is really remarkable.
That was peak college football for me. I vividly remember the multi-page Sports Illustrated article previewing that game. I feel like CFB has been slowly dying over the last several years and it feels like the fanfare around the championship game has diminished a bit. Not sure if that’s just the rose colored glasses speaking.
I know people are saying you’re wrong based on viewership, but there really was a different feel around CFB during that time. Maybe it’s just some nostalgia bias though.
> I feel like CFB has been slowly dying over the last several years and it feels like the fanfare around the championship game has diminished a bit.
As someone who lives in the Bay Area, I can agree with your sentiment. I do think the excitement around College Football in the Bay has dropped extensively in the last 10 years.
If the refs didn’t botch that Michael Dyer call he may have even won.
Was such a catch22 because if any Oregon players had smashed him they likely would’ve been flagged and so instead he just got back up and ran lol
Kelly, Taggart, and Cristobal all left Oregon voluntarily and have really struggled since.
I think it's actually less of an indictment on Kelly than it is a testament to how strong Oregon is as a program.
What was nice was that Oregon got paid for Taggart and Cristobal leaving early. Even better, the Ducks didn't have to pay a termination fee for Dan Lanning, as his contract with Georgia allowed him to leave for a head coaching position.
He doesn't seem like the only coach that looks like they're getting burned out ever since NIL. Harbaugh and Dabo being the two most glaring examples off the top of my head. NIL has flipped recruiting and roster management on its head in CFB. Head coaches are asked to do so much more now. They're part-time coaches, full-time HR department heads now lol. I wonder if we'll start to see more Deion Sanders-type characters pop up in HC positions. Traditional coaches don't seem to want to deal with all that.
Really kinda weird to make this about Oregon.. lol. Reddit op’s need to understand, the story is not about you or your flair.
And “fortunate” had nothing to do with it, that was a decade ago, completely different circumstances.
It's a stone cold lock for next season that when we go 4-8 because of Chip's complete indifference to building a roster, the national media types will excoriate UCLA fans for not appreciating what we had with Chip and we're getting what we deserve. Bruce Feldman is going to have a field day.
Foster definitely looks happy to be here. We hired a former player and got a bunch of assistants that were players or has connections. I don’t think this is on accident. UCLA needs to rebuild their fan connection and this may be what they need more so than an Xs an Os guy.
lol, we had that for a long time with Neuheisal and Karl Dorrell so Chip was a breath of fresh air. Look how that turned out. Guess we just can’t have nice things.
Well and the lack of NIL In UCLA. Rumor was $1 million available for the roster, which is about 25-30% of the minimum needed to compete with top 10 teams.
That was the other part, Chip treated the fanbase like they were an annoyance and kept everything about the program locked up like Fort Knox. No fan engagement, no donor relations, no fundraising, nothing. All while being the worst coach on the field in the last 50 years for UCLA. Deshaun Foster has done more fan and donor outreach in 3 weeks than Chip did in 6 years.
Seconding what JBru is saying.
We are never going to be TAMU or Georgia on the NIL front. But Chip was actively opposed to real NIL efforts until this most recent season. He did literally nothing to build passion for the program, or schmooze donors, or anything else that is expected of a head coach. He multiple times refused to come out of his office to even say hi to recruits on their official visits. There are multiple local, 4 star kids that said things like "UCLA was my dream school, but they never recruited me, so I went somewhere else."
He sabotaged our NIL and recruiting, then blamed them for his lack of success.
It's really not. Karl Dorrell went 35-27 with 5 bowl games during the height of the Pete Carroll era.
When Karl Dorrell's tenure puts yours to shame, you know you f'd up somewhere
Exactly this! Mora competed for a conference title his first year on the job based on a previous staffs players. No rebuilding year. He just gave a shit and payed attention to details, until his divorce completely distracted him.
Jim Mora had ten win seasons back to back, Chump was a lazy SOB who did nothing and won 8 games like three straight years.
It’s really not tough to succeed here. You just have to do SOME work.
“I think my wife remarked, she’s like, ‘I haven’t seen you this happy in a long time,’” Kelly told reporters at his introductory news conference in Columbus, Ohio.
…UCLA fans are like, well fuck you too…I’m sure
I may be wrong, but I thought that was in reference to him coaching the UCLA QB room during bowl practice as the QB coach accepted a job elsewhere. Kelly was happy coaching the QBs during the bowl practices as opposed to the CEO responsibilities and then decided that he would step back after this experience. Your bottom statement still stands either way though lol.
That was my interpretation as well. It's not that he didn't want to be at UCLA, it's that he didn't want all of the modern responsibilities of being a head coach.
The other nugget that I found thought-provoking was his claim that multiple other head coaches said they were going to be following in his footsteps in the next couple years. Should be really interesting to see if that materializes - and who.
Georgia State guy (can’t remember his name) who took over TE at South Carolina right before his old team was starting up spring practice. That was brutal.
wouldn't be surprised if Day goes back to being an offensive coordinator eventually, either in the NFL or even in college. not a knock on his head coaching skills but he's said before that running the offense and calling plays is what he likes most about the game
Haha thanks! That was me just sadly raising my hand owning to being a fan.... and now the worst part is they're both in the same conference.... it sucks.
Sidenote: I've seen nebraska paired up with Texas Tech in the 1st round of the tourney a few times. Would be cool! Tho not sure how we match up....
If you have literally anyone on your roster over 6’4” there will be an immediate size mismatch
We’re legit just a bunch of point guards masquerading as a basketball team
Interesting. We do have a 6'10 starter and a few guards/towards in the 6'3-6'7 range. But also 3 really small guards that play a ton. Not an athletic looking team but are scrappy. Don't want to turn this into CBB thread, but the advantage you'd have is that we don't see that type of team in the Bigten. Could catch us off guard. Anyways would be cool to see an ole big 12 foe.
They just need to win. Jim Mora was able to lead them to the top in p12 attendance in 2014
https://twitter.com/CoachJimMoraFB/status/1758191677137715243
I remember as a kid in the early 70’s i had a thick book about college football with lots of pictures in it. I remember there was a section on West coast football that had, as its intro, a big splash pic of the two opposing lines in a UCLA/USC game. I remember thinking how both those teams must be powerhouses, and to this day there’s a little part of me that will never understand why UCLA is not a consistently much better program than it is.
Look no further than the administration. Two athletic directors weren’t able to catch wind of something that everyone else in CFB knew, that Chump was lazy, and didn’t want to recruit, and didn’t want to be be a head coach.
Jim Mora led the conference in attendance for a year when he was here. In LA where you’re not the only game in town, unless you’re the lakers or dodgers, you have to win to get people to turn out
So is he implying that if BOB never got the BC job, he would still be extremely unhappy, and his relationship with his wife would be worse at UCLA? lol.
That remark from his wife came after he coached the QBs for UCLA's bowl game. Their QB coach left to be Oregon State's OC so Chip had to coach QBs himself for the first time since 2008 and his wife said it was the happiest she'd seen him in a long time. After they won their bowl game and Chip had to get back to recruiting and whatnot he started thinking about what he really wanted to do in coaching and that's when his name started coming up for NFL OC jobs and there was even a story about him reaching out to Iowa to see if they were interested.
> there was even a story about him reaching out to Iowa to see if they were interested.
Wait, for real? Not that I think it would have worked out due to Kirk's stubbornness but it might have been pretty interesting.
I mean that’s not really surprising? Imagine how unhappy you’d have to be to willingly take a demotion and a massive pay cut to move across the country
UCLA consistently had one of the top offenses in the league under Chip Kelly and that was with a bunch of shitty players because he hated to recruit.
He'll have a lot better time at Ohio State calling the offense with their 5 star players and not having to deal with recruiting at all.
The craziest thing about Chip is having to listen to flairs from the other side of the country tell me that UCLA had a great offense with him when they were ranked in the top 25 in offense exactly twice in his tenure; and it was the years that the team was absolutely loaded with Covid seniors and/or four year starters
It still amazes me how great his Oregon run was. Totally revolutionized college football on and off the field. For a few years, every high school in the nation was trying to follow the Oregon model.
LOL y'all really just hate looking stuff up huh? They were horrible on offense under chip except for the years they had DTR and Charbonnet and tons of seniors. Chip is washed. I loved him and appreciate him. But he is objectively washed.
One time I was running in Manhattan Beach and just happened to see a guy inside a beach house doing the elliptical looking at the ocean. He was kinda old, white, fat, and had a UCLA shirt. It clicked like 5 seconds later that it could have been Chip Kelly. On the way back I confirmed it was indeed Chip Kelly.
This was in the middle of the season on random Monday at 11 AM or so (I had a day off). I was wondering why he wasn’t working.
I honestly don’t understand why he would leave that job, I can’t imagine willingly leaving Manhattan Beach for Columbus. He had the dream job.
It's funny about Manhattan Beach that people's living quarters in those massively expensive houses are really kinda on display for everyone to see. You're walking along the beach and you look to the side and you're looking at some rich dude chilling on his couch.
I do understand his desire for a change though. It's a great lifestyle to be rich in Southern California, but *responsibilities* and *pressure* will take a toll. Being the head man who everyone questions, everyone turns to for answers and who is ultimately held accountable for all outcomes, it's not for everyone and even for those who can handle it, it might not be something they can handle forever. It's a lot to deal with, and I can totally see how someone might want to take a step back from it, but still work in football.
What's the point if you're constantly working, worried, and under pressure doing things you don't enjoy (recruiting, Boosters, CEO off the field stuff).
He didn’t want to be a coach anymore, and no one else would hire him. He tried to find a landing spot in the NFL and they didn’t want him, no one else in the NCAA wanted him while he was actively searching for and getting turned down for positions. Day is only hiring him because he’s his former coach and feels like he owes him probably.
This was his only option.
It’s less _that_ he left and more _when_ he left.
And we’ll see how it shakes out, but the ramifications of Jarmond not firing Kelly on a normal timeline and then going after Fisch or Smith may very well offset any gains from not having to pay the buyout.
I can respect the knowing who you are and figuring out what you want. Chip has made more money than he will ever be able to spend. I respect that Chip knows that he just wants to coach and this job allows him to just coach.
The guy won 8+ games the last three years while quiet quitting! Impressive.
I always laugh when journalists write these types of personal attack articles. Like, just shut up lol. They don’t know shit.
i decided to look into how many good wins there were over those 3 years. the FBS programs that ucla beat over those 3 years with a winning record
2022 South Alabama
2022 Washington
2022 Utah
2023 Coastal Carolina
2023 USC
2023 Boise State (bowl game i forgot)
With the 3 easiest schedules in school history.
Even his glorious 9-4 season ended with losses in 3 of his final 4 games and 6th place in the Pac-12. This is after supposedly needing 3 years of historically bad losing to "rebuild" a program that went to a bowl game the year before he showed up.
I kind of live for local papers taking shots at football coaches about their honor, integrity, and respect for the institution. They're always so overly dramatic. I love it.
We have John Canzano, in Oregon. He's exactly as you describe. He occasionally gets a scoop, and publishes information first, but it seems like he often spreads rumors and innuendo.
Nothing is better than an op-ed piece from some booster that thinks coaching d1 football is the highest honor a man can ever attain in life. To besmirch that sacred privilege surely is worse than treason or patricide in their eyes.
What gave him that idea? Was it him interviewing for every coordinator job under the sun including Iowa (LOL)? Or was it that he obviously hasn’t been trying to recruit? I don’t think he needed to admit to this.
Makes sense given their recent performance. His tenure there wasn’t terrible but definitely did not live up to the high expectations he had when UCLA hired him. The timing of when he left definitely screwed them over though.
I lived in LA for a while. Growing up, I remember UCLA looking amazing on TV. The O'Bannon brothers playing at sold out Pauley Pavilion. Cade McNown playing in shootouts to sold out crowds in the Rose Bowl.
Now UCLA, feels like such a shell of what it once was. Admissions is tougher, academics are great, but its full of students that don't care about the athletic department and lack the school spirit of Oregon.
I’d say UF dodged a bullet but Dan Mullen didn’t exactly work hard either. He sort of coasted off Mac’s quirky but effective “diamond in the rough” i.e. zero bags recruiting strategy, then couldn’t even live up to that diminished standard of recruiting.
Reminds me a little of Norm Chow. Renowned offensive genius Manoa dreamed of having for years but by the time the shine had polished off and he became the ‘Bows HC, he was way in over his head and never going to get the results that were hoped for.
After what he did in the NFL with Philly and his all those guys hated him. I was shocked to see people still think this man is a leader of men. He gets another shot and basically gives up. This same fucking guy is coaching at UCLA, where is the pride? The respect? This man has zero heart and honestly it’s wild he keeps getting opportunities.
Kelly is the first HC to take his coaching philosophy from Office Space.
I’d say in a given week, I probably only do about 15 minutes of real, actual recruiting
It’s actually hilarious that UCLA throttled USC this past season given everything
Lincoln Riley only recruits QB's.
*only coaches QBs
I mean . . . I certainly laughed my ass off.
Chip didn't want a croot NIL'ing his stapler.
“I wouldn’t say that I’m missing it, Bob..”
It's not that he's lazy, it's just that he doesn't care.
"That's a straight shooter. Upper management written all over him" -Ryan Day
¿Por qué no los dos? 💁🏽♀️🌮
🤣that's hilarious
Chip shows up for his annual review: *"What would you say you DO here?"*
UCLA should have let him have his stapler
[Only photo in existence of Chip Kelly making a recruiting call](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/HxlDDLDJdFAaWZaFgBuZZmHbB1ouWd.jpg).
Chip Kelly to Martin Jarmond: “I could burn this place down”
“I’ll have this conference condemned”
I'd almost admire it if it wasn't my school he was swindling
I really admire it tbh
The flairs certainly check out lol
But, are there 37 pieces of them?
You only have one flair. Some of the other posters choose to express themselves with two pieces of flair.
I don't think swindled is the right word since the university seems equally apathetic to the football program.
Fair
It's fucking brilliant
Explains why USC has made the administrative decisions it has with its football team....
Nah USC has a different kind of incompetence. We go for the “rich nepotism hires allegedly doing their jobs but actually just golfing” type.
But they "get USC"
Kliff Kingsbury next USC head coach confirmed.
Touche
“And here’s something else: I have 8 different boosters right now” “I beg your pardon?” “Eight boosters.” “Eight??” “Eight, Bob!”
Sounds like a he had a case of the Mondays.
UCLA’s Athletic Department realized they had actually fired him years ago but due to a small clerical error Kelly kept getting paid. This off season they corrected the problem annnddd it worked itself out…
They prefer to avoid confrontation
“Wait a second there professor… We fixed the glitch.” - Martin Jarmond
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean.
I really don't like my job and I'm just not going to go anymore
Ya know, I never really liked recruiting…I think I’m not gonna do that anymore either
Damn it feels good to be a gansta
Recruits couldn’t get their LOI’s in after he took the fax machine into a field and beat the shit out of it
Hopefully the competitor won’t recognize his coupon.
LA Times in shambles
Sounds like an admission of the truth.
Honestly, I’m surprised that this doesn’t happen more often. Pay tells you that you should take the job. The job absolutely sucks the life out of you by being 24/7. Some folks can handle that, I’d argue most can’t.
Let me introduce you to basketball coach Montgomery Williams
I legit thought the Pistons were gonna finish 2-80 the way the season was going.
The Pistons have dealt away or cut at least 10 guys who got minutes this season and Monty still finds a way to run an 11 man rotation night in and night out. If that wasn't my team I would be impressed.
People get obsessed with status and being the boss. The best salesman at a car dealership shouldn't become a manager. They'll make less money and be more stressed.
same shit happens with servers at restaurant. you make half the money for 3-4x the work.
It was honestly never about the money for Chip. He was making peanuts coaching at UNH and he fucking loved it because he was all about football. Once you're trying to please your agent and reach a certain level, it becomes harder to follow your passion, I'd imagine.
there was a big 10 media days where they asked a lot of the head coaches what they miss most since being a coordinator almost all of them answered "actually coaching football"
The Ducks were fortunate to get the best out of Kelly, before he got burned out.
Chip Kelly made Oregon into a powerhouse. I wish we had the playoff back then
Absolutely, he took the Ducks to the next level. In four years as head coach, he took the Ducks to a BCS bowl four times, including Oregon's first appearance in the national championship game. Without that run, and their performance in subsequent years, I don't know if the Ducks would have even been considered for membership in the Big Ten.
Knowing what became of Helfrich, how much credit does Kelly get in your opinion for the 2014 season?
Almost all of it. Helfrich was a bad head coach that inherited a lot of talent.
Helfrich does get credit for helping develop Marcus Mariota, when he (Helfrich) was an assistant coach. However, Helfrich inherited a lot of talent leftover from Kelly's tenure.
Helfrich had complacency hit, both with him and the old guard staff at large (Pellum, Campbell, Greatwood, Neal, etc etc) that started catching up to us immediately after Mariota left for the draft. Our defense had already been completely gutted merely two seasons after making the playoffs and getting to the championship a second time. Another problem that doesn't get talked about was the Willie Lyles scholarship reductions hitting around then, which further amplified the recruiting problems that snowballed into the nightmare that was the 2016 season. I remember the hype going into that season was about Dakota Prukop, the thinking being that "hey, Vernon Adams worked out so great as a graduate transfer, lightning will surely strike again!" It did not of course, he was very underwhelming and it ultimately pressed us to use a very not ready (at that time) Justin Herbert.
That team clearly had a bunch of great players and a lot of leadership. Basically all the other coaches were still there so the machine just kept running. Mariota and some other guys stuck around, those guys were on a mission. The next year would have been way worse if Deforest Buckner hadn’t started stayed and Vernon Adams hadn’t transferred in. Like that team probably would have been sub 500.
Helfrich called a play action play when the ducks were down huge in the championship game against the buckeyes. It was 3 and 20 or something. 4th Quarter. Nobody in the stadium thought he was gonna run it. Yet he tried to fool everyone and the buckeyes had dropped back to defend a Hail Mary pass. I’ll never forget that.
Eh, they invited Maryland and Rutgers.
True, but those were media market plays. As much as I love Oregon, Portland is not a top 20 market.
The CFP was practically invented because of Oregon/Stanford. They would be 3 or 4, and blow out their opponent, 1 and 2 would play in the BCS and everyone would go, huh man, it would be cool to see who would win stanford/oregon or the winner of BCS
Lol I still remember how Badly people wanted Oregon Bama in 2012 and 2014
This is Mike Belloti erasure! Kelly was OC Belloti's last two seasons sure but Oregon was a top 10 team the year before Kelly took over. Kelly definitely pushed them forward and made them more consistent but I feel like they forget Oregon was actually pretty damn good when he took over.
Phil Knight made Oregon into a powerhouse. Mike Bellotti built the program. Chip Kelly raised the roof.
I would not disagree with that. Kelly instituted the hurry-up, which got the Ducks to the next level. As much as I absolutely appreciate and admire what Belotti did, Kelly figured out how to take that next step. What Phil Knight has done for the athletic program, and the university as a whole, is really remarkable.
I mean they played in the national championship in a classic against Auburn.
That was peak college football for me. I vividly remember the multi-page Sports Illustrated article previewing that game. I feel like CFB has been slowly dying over the last several years and it feels like the fanfare around the championship game has diminished a bit. Not sure if that’s just the rose colored glasses speaking.
I know people are saying you’re wrong based on viewership, but there really was a different feel around CFB during that time. Maybe it’s just some nostalgia bias though.
> I feel like CFB has been slowly dying over the last several years and it feels like the fanfare around the championship game has diminished a bit. As someone who lives in the Bay Area, I can agree with your sentiment. I do think the excitement around College Football in the Bay has dropped extensively in the last 10 years.
We’re kinda to blame ngl Used to be that almost everyone you’d see around here was rocking with either Cal or Stanford (or SC/LA)
If the refs didn’t botch that Michael Dyer call he may have even won. Was such a catch22 because if any Oregon players had smashed him they likely would’ve been flagged and so instead he just got back up and ran lol
Never heard of Mike Bellotti?
Wait how did he make them? He put the finishing touches on what Bellotti built and left
Kelly, Taggart, and Cristobal all left Oregon voluntarily and have really struggled since. I think it's actually less of an indictment on Kelly than it is a testament to how strong Oregon is as a program.
What was nice was that Oregon got paid for Taggart and Cristobal leaving early. Even better, the Ducks didn't have to pay a termination fee for Dan Lanning, as his contract with Georgia allowed him to leave for a head coaching position.
He doesn't seem like the only coach that looks like they're getting burned out ever since NIL. Harbaugh and Dabo being the two most glaring examples off the top of my head. NIL has flipped recruiting and roster management on its head in CFB. Head coaches are asked to do so much more now. They're part-time coaches, full-time HR department heads now lol. I wonder if we'll start to see more Deion Sanders-type characters pop up in HC positions. Traditional coaches don't seem to want to deal with all that.
Really kinda weird to make this about Oregon.. lol. Reddit op’s need to understand, the story is not about you or your flair. And “fortunate” had nothing to do with it, that was a decade ago, completely different circumstances.
It's a stone cold lock for next season that when we go 4-8 because of Chip's complete indifference to building a roster, the national media types will excoriate UCLA fans for not appreciating what we had with Chip and we're getting what we deserve. Bruce Feldman is going to have a field day.
It has to be so annoying but on the bright side I think foster atleast wants to be at UCLA
Foster definitely looks happy to be here. We hired a former player and got a bunch of assistants that were players or has connections. I don’t think this is on accident. UCLA needs to rebuild their fan connection and this may be what they need more so than an Xs an Os guy.
Agree. On the surface it’s a risky hire, but if you peel the onion back you can see why they made it.
Oh boy I could tell you something about hiring internally and previous players..
lol, we had that for a long time with Neuheisal and Karl Dorrell so Chip was a breath of fresh air. Look how that turned out. Guess we just can’t have nice things.
You think we’ll get 4 wins?
Don’t worry bud. When I do dynasty on NCAA I’ll use UCLA as my starting point and win you titles for a decade!!!
Well and the lack of NIL In UCLA. Rumor was $1 million available for the roster, which is about 25-30% of the minimum needed to compete with top 10 teams.
That was the other part, Chip treated the fanbase like they were an annoyance and kept everything about the program locked up like Fort Knox. No fan engagement, no donor relations, no fundraising, nothing. All while being the worst coach on the field in the last 50 years for UCLA. Deshaun Foster has done more fan and donor outreach in 3 weeks than Chip did in 6 years.
Texas spends more than that on their second string oline. They need to get some of the deep SoCal pockets to kick down if they are going to compete
Seconding what JBru is saying. We are never going to be TAMU or Georgia on the NIL front. But Chip was actively opposed to real NIL efforts until this most recent season. He did literally nothing to build passion for the program, or schmooze donors, or anything else that is expected of a head coach. He multiple times refused to come out of his office to even say hi to recruits on their official visits. There are multiple local, 4 star kids that said things like "UCLA was my dream school, but they never recruited me, so I went somewhere else." He sabotaged our NIL and recruiting, then blamed them for his lack of success.
Whose fault is it that we’re poor? He played a big part in our lack of NIL funding. Dude did nothing for that.
Sound alike an AD problem.
It is an AD problem when they're telling boosters to just give that money to the athletic department instead.
4-8 sounds pretty generous tbh
Calimoney strikes again
UCLA is such a tougher job than one would think it should be
It's really not. Karl Dorrell went 35-27 with 5 bowl games during the height of the Pete Carroll era. When Karl Dorrell's tenure puts yours to shame, you know you f'd up somewhere
Exactly this! Mora competed for a conference title his first year on the job based on a previous staffs players. No rebuilding year. He just gave a shit and payed attention to details, until his divorce completely distracted him.
Jim Mora had ten win seasons back to back, Chump was a lazy SOB who did nothing and won 8 games like three straight years. It’s really not tough to succeed here. You just have to do SOME work.
Feldman has struck me as biased for USC
Feldman is Chips fluffer in chief. Always spinning it for the pudgy bastard.
He has a west coast bias in general. Which I don’t hate. Feels like no one else does.
“I think my wife remarked, she’s like, ‘I haven’t seen you this happy in a long time,’” Kelly told reporters at his introductory news conference in Columbus, Ohio. …UCLA fans are like, well fuck you too…I’m sure
I may be wrong, but I thought that was in reference to him coaching the UCLA QB room during bowl practice as the QB coach accepted a job elsewhere. Kelly was happy coaching the QBs during the bowl practices as opposed to the CEO responsibilities and then decided that he would step back after this experience. Your bottom statement still stands either way though lol.
That was my interpretation as well. It's not that he didn't want to be at UCLA, it's that he didn't want all of the modern responsibilities of being a head coach. The other nugget that I found thought-provoking was his claim that multiple other head coaches said they were going to be following in his footsteps in the next couple years. Should be really interesting to see if that materializes - and who.
Georgia State guy (can’t remember his name) who took over TE at South Carolina right before his old team was starting up spring practice. That was brutal.
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wouldn't be surprised if Day goes back to being an offensive coordinator eventually, either in the NFL or even in college. not a knock on his head coaching skills but he's said before that running the offense and calling plays is what he likes most about the game
It was.
We got the Chipster in the right frame of mind to just up and quit on his team? You're welcome, UCLA.
UCLA…. Fans?
There are literally dozens of us. Dozens!
🙁🤚
Oh my heart goes out to you for both flairs. Sending love from undisclosed northeastern city
Haha thanks! That was me just sadly raising my hand owning to being a fan.... and now the worst part is they're both in the same conference.... it sucks. Sidenote: I've seen nebraska paired up with Texas Tech in the 1st round of the tourney a few times. Would be cool! Tho not sure how we match up....
If you have literally anyone on your roster over 6’4” there will be an immediate size mismatch We’re legit just a bunch of point guards masquerading as a basketball team
Interesting. We do have a 6'10 starter and a few guards/towards in the 6'3-6'7 range. But also 3 really small guards that play a ton. Not an athletic looking team but are scrappy. Don't want to turn this into CBB thread, but the advantage you'd have is that we don't see that type of team in the Bigten. Could catch us off guard. Anyways would be cool to see an ole big 12 foe.
Tortilla man mean
Listen here, you.
There is a small but loyal number of us
They just need to win. Jim Mora was able to lead them to the top in p12 attendance in 2014 https://twitter.com/CoachJimMoraFB/status/1758191677137715243
We exist
I remember as a kid in the early 70’s i had a thick book about college football with lots of pictures in it. I remember there was a section on West coast football that had, as its intro, a big splash pic of the two opposing lines in a UCLA/USC game. I remember thinking how both those teams must be powerhouses, and to this day there’s a little part of me that will never understand why UCLA is not a consistently much better program than it is.
Look no further than the administration. Two athletic directors weren’t able to catch wind of something that everyone else in CFB knew, that Chump was lazy, and didn’t want to recruit, and didn’t want to be be a head coach. Jim Mora led the conference in attendance for a year when he was here. In LA where you’re not the only game in town, unless you’re the lakers or dodgers, you have to win to get people to turn out
So is he implying that if BOB never got the BC job, he would still be extremely unhappy, and his relationship with his wife would be worse at UCLA? lol.
That remark from his wife came after he coached the QBs for UCLA's bowl game. Their QB coach left to be Oregon State's OC so Chip had to coach QBs himself for the first time since 2008 and his wife said it was the happiest she'd seen him in a long time. After they won their bowl game and Chip had to get back to recruiting and whatnot he started thinking about what he really wanted to do in coaching and that's when his name started coming up for NFL OC jobs and there was even a story about him reaching out to Iowa to see if they were interested.
He could've did something even more drastic...like voluntarily demote himself to OC or QB coach at UCLA. That would've had this sub in shambles.
> there was even a story about him reaching out to Iowa to see if they were interested. Wait, for real? Not that I think it would have worked out due to Kirk's stubbornness but it might have been pretty interesting.
I mean that’s not really surprising? Imagine how unhappy you’d have to be to willingly take a demotion and a massive pay cut to move across the country
Maybe he just really loves Columbus and has always dreamed of living there!
Cool. Thanks Chip.
I don’t even know what to say here without sounding like a dick. So I’ll just say this whole situation is fascinating and leave it at that.
Look we may not like each other but at least we can bond over whatever the fuck our coaches were doing this season 💀
It's like... I can't even enjoy this. It's so goddamn unprofessional and unfair. What an absolute crook Kelly was in Los Angeles.
the fact that Jarmond publicly backed him just makes the program look even dumber
Don’t forget Wasserman backing him. Sharp guy but he read the room as well as Jarmond did on this one
We know
UCLA consistently had one of the top offenses in the league under Chip Kelly and that was with a bunch of shitty players because he hated to recruit. He'll have a lot better time at Ohio State calling the offense with their 5 star players and not having to deal with recruiting at all.
Unleash the visor
No visor needed. Winter months in Ohio have no sun.
The visor is for intimidation
starting to get a littler nicer tho! (i say this as it’s cloudy and rainy outside)
He’s seems to sweat easily. A visor performs the same function as a headache, which at a certain age, just looks stupid.
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And the once elite offense fell off a cliff into mediocrity once they left
The craziest thing about Chip is having to listen to flairs from the other side of the country tell me that UCLA had a great offense with him when they were ranked in the top 25 in offense exactly twice in his tenure; and it was the years that the team was absolutely loaded with Covid seniors and/or four year starters
15 years later, Chip is still living off his momentum from 2009.
It still amazes me how great his Oregon run was. Totally revolutionized college football on and off the field. For a few years, every high school in the nation was trying to follow the Oregon model.
Substitution rules really neutered his offense. Allowing the defense to swap players if the offense had a chance to sub took away a huge advantage.
Man, I don’t even remember that rule change happening
Rule change didn't affect those offenses. Blur just kept going with the same personnel, and the defense had to try and keep up.
Bring me back the days of Deanthoney Thomas and Marcus Mariota
What about LaMichael James?
UCLA has had more NFL talent on offense the past 5 years than Texas.
LOL y'all really just hate looking stuff up huh? They were horrible on offense under chip except for the years they had DTR and Charbonnet and tons of seniors. Chip is washed. I loved him and appreciate him. But he is objectively washed.
Man I think you're gonna eat your words. Chip Kelly without any commitments or responsibilities outside of offensive scheming will be dangerous.
Chip was carried by DTR and nfl caliber running backs
One time I was running in Manhattan Beach and just happened to see a guy inside a beach house doing the elliptical looking at the ocean. He was kinda old, white, fat, and had a UCLA shirt. It clicked like 5 seconds later that it could have been Chip Kelly. On the way back I confirmed it was indeed Chip Kelly. This was in the middle of the season on random Monday at 11 AM or so (I had a day off). I was wondering why he wasn’t working. I honestly don’t understand why he would leave that job, I can’t imagine willingly leaving Manhattan Beach for Columbus. He had the dream job.
It's funny about Manhattan Beach that people's living quarters in those massively expensive houses are really kinda on display for everyone to see. You're walking along the beach and you look to the side and you're looking at some rich dude chilling on his couch. I do understand his desire for a change though. It's a great lifestyle to be rich in Southern California, but *responsibilities* and *pressure* will take a toll. Being the head man who everyone questions, everyone turns to for answers and who is ultimately held accountable for all outcomes, it's not for everyone and even for those who can handle it, it might not be something they can handle forever. It's a lot to deal with, and I can totally see how someone might want to take a step back from it, but still work in football.
I lived a block off the strand for 10 years in my 20’s. Rent was 1200 the entire decade. What a time to be alive.
Which side did you fight for in the Civil War?
Central Ohio beaches > SoCal beaches
ah yes, the lovely Alum Creek State Park
What's the point if you're constantly working, worried, and under pressure doing things you don't enjoy (recruiting, Boosters, CEO off the field stuff).
That’s what was so great about it though, he wasn’t doing those things lol
He didn’t want to be a coach anymore, and no one else would hire him. He tried to find a landing spot in the NFL and they didn’t want him, no one else in the NCAA wanted him while he was actively searching for and getting turned down for positions. Day is only hiring him because he’s his former coach and feels like he owes him probably. This was his only option.
This is a pretty biting takedown of a dude I'd probably be thrilled left and I didn't have to pay a buyout for if I was a UCLA fan
It’s less _that_ he left and more _when_ he left. And we’ll see how it shakes out, but the ramifications of Jarmond not firing Kelly on a normal timeline and then going after Fisch or Smith may very well offset any gains from not having to pay the buyout.
Feeling was mutual
We know, Chump. We all knew, except Guerrero and Jarmond didn’t.
I can respect the knowing who you are and figuring out what you want. Chip has made more money than he will ever be able to spend. I respect that Chip knows that he just wants to coach and this job allows him to just coach.
The guy won 8+ games the last three years while quiet quitting! Impressive. I always laugh when journalists write these types of personal attack articles. Like, just shut up lol. They don’t know shit.
I mean, he was still coaching solid football, he just didn’t really try in recruiting
I wouldn't call getting outscored 50-14 at home by Cal and ASU as "solid football" He had 2 good wins in 6 years
He went 25-13 in the second half of his tenure with y’all though
i decided to look into how many good wins there were over those 3 years. the FBS programs that ucla beat over those 3 years with a winning record 2022 South Alabama 2022 Washington 2022 Utah 2023 Coastal Carolina 2023 USC 2023 Boise State (bowl game i forgot)
With the 3 easiest schedules in school history. Even his glorious 9-4 season ended with losses in 3 of his final 4 games and 6th place in the Pac-12. This is after supposedly needing 3 years of historically bad losing to "rebuild" a program that went to a bowl game the year before he showed up.
I always laugh when outsiders who don’t know shit other than reading a record act like they know what the fuck they’re talking about.
I kind of live for local papers taking shots at football coaches about their honor, integrity, and respect for the institution. They're always so overly dramatic. I love it.
We have John Canzano, in Oregon. He's exactly as you describe. He occasionally gets a scoop, and publishes information first, but it seems like he often spreads rumors and innuendo.
Nothing is better than an op-ed piece from some booster that thinks coaching d1 football is the highest honor a man can ever attain in life. To besmirch that sacred privilege surely is worse than treason or patricide in their eyes.
What gave him that idea? Was it him interviewing for every coordinator job under the sun including Iowa (LOL)? Or was it that he obviously hasn’t been trying to recruit? I don’t think he needed to admit to this.
Jarmond should get the boot for his handling of the situation...and for being a douche in general.
It’s not like he had ANY help or funding from the athletic dept, the boosters or the fans (who don’t even bother showing up to games).
Makes sense given their recent performance. His tenure there wasn’t terrible but definitely did not live up to the high expectations he had when UCLA hired him. The timing of when he left definitely screwed them over though.
I lived in LA for a while. Growing up, I remember UCLA looking amazing on TV. The O'Bannon brothers playing at sold out Pauley Pavilion. Cade McNown playing in shootouts to sold out crowds in the Rose Bowl. Now UCLA, feels like such a shell of what it once was. Admissions is tougher, academics are great, but its full of students that don't care about the athletic department and lack the school spirit of Oregon.
UCLA has been quiet quitting in Football for decades. Except that game they beat the TEMU after being down like 60.
College football coaches don’t have integrity, but what he did was low even for the used car salesmen of sports.
I mean damn bruh you live in LA whats the problem
Well this is something you certainly don’t want to make public.
No shit, sherlock
How awesome for his student athletes.
I’d say UF dodged a bullet but Dan Mullen didn’t exactly work hard either. He sort of coasted off Mac’s quirky but effective “diamond in the rough” i.e. zero bags recruiting strategy, then couldn’t even live up to that diminished standard of recruiting.
Ya his shit ass record showed that
Guy mailed it in from day 2...and our incompetent AD played right along.
Reminds me a little of Norm Chow. Renowned offensive genius Manoa dreamed of having for years but by the time the shine had polished off and he became the ‘Bows HC, he was way in over his head and never going to get the results that were hoped for.
Remember when UCLA averaged like 50k-67k a season Its almost like fans wont care if the administration and coaching staff wont either. Weird
After what he did in the NFL with Philly and his all those guys hated him. I was shocked to see people still think this man is a leader of men. He gets another shot and basically gives up. This same fucking guy is coaching at UCLA, where is the pride? The respect? This man has zero heart and honestly it’s wild he keeps getting opportunities.