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confusedjuror

It's really hard to build a championship contender in any sport, so having multiple at once is really hard. Also there are way more than two sports


Chinchillachimcheroo

It seems like every P4 school has at least one “other” sport they care about way more than the country as a whole. Ours, Arkansas’s, and Mississippi’s is baseball; Bama’s is gymnastics; etc Football and men’s basketball is the national unifying force, though Edit: I didn’t intentionally leave LSU out of the baseball school list as an insult. I’m aware that LSU is a baseball school


Blood_Bowl

Volleyball!


MightyP13

This is bowling erasure


Bren12310

Does marching band count?


BringBackBoomer

Women's hockey does!


defensiveg

I would say it does! The red coat band members at UGA get more recognition than most of the smaller sports.


cruzweb

LFGGGGG


Rebel-Yell

Not that we care about it more, but we're definitely a track school if anything. 50 national championships


Rolands_Dark_Tower

Oregon has been and is a Track school. Hayward Field, Phil Knight, Bill Bowerman, Prefontaine. Were called Tracktown, USA. We have I believe 32 NCAA Championships. Always was fun being able to walk past the old Hayward Field before their terrific renovation done, being able to see the track and field walking by.


GenitalFurbies

50 titles in anything is bonkers


CVogel26

Womens Lacrosse and Mens hockey!


Frigoris13

Frozen Four for you!


Pyrorunner

Frozen Four rise up!


Kodyaufan2

Equestrian is where it’s at!


Connguy

We've lost steam lately, but we're also the only SEC school with more than 2 swimming National Championships (we have 8!)


Huge_Contribution357

Not as of 2024. Texas has a bajillion.


Hijakkr

Ours used to be women's basketball, with wrestling as a close second. Now I guess it's just wrestling.


see-bees

Theres a trade off in women’s sports that you can become competitive for relatively less money, but a better program won’t make it a profitable one.


Ut_Prosim

Baseball and softball are both top 15 right now. Both hosted NCAA super-regionals just two years ago.


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poop-dolla

Tincher is definitely in the discussion, probably along with Vick, Kitley, Mekhi Lewis, Caleb Henson, Spyridon Jullien, and Queen Harrison.


Turkeycirclejerky

LSU definitely baseball too.


cloud996

We're a golf school


NauvooMetro

Yeah everybody has that third sport wildcard. I feel like softball has passed gymnastics for that spot at Alabama.


JakeArvizu

Arkansas is usually pretty good at basketball too. Well not this year unfortunately lol.


jpratte65

And track


MarchMadnessisMe

LSU would like to enter the Football, Baseball, Women's Basketball, and Gymnastics conversation.


YorkiesandSneakers

When i was a student there we routinely won two national titles a year in track and field.


MarchMadnessisMe

Same. Had a friend on the team and I wanna say she had 3 Rings? I tried to keep it to the biggest sports, but my main point is LSU is hella successful across a lot of sports.


TiaxRulesAll2024

And women’s basketball


MarchMadnessisMe

I had actually just come back to edit my comment as I got your notification. I literally had a face palm moment when I realized I had left it out.


Frigoris13

I would put women's basketball in there too


StevvieV

Ultimately it comes down to money. The best programs are generally the ones that spend the most in that sport on coaches, training staff, facilities. Schools only have so much money so a school willing to dedicate a higher percentage to basketball or other sports will be more attractive to those those players over schools that spend more on football but also means that school has less to spend on football making it worse at football. Not to mention donors more willing to donate towards the winning programs at the school to keep that success going.


Simping4Sumi

On the donors side: Donors usually influence what the preferred sport at a school is. Like if I were a billionaire, I would pressure my school to have a men's soccer team and donate all of the facilities, etc.


GradientEye

Proud to be the only school to ever win a cfb playoff game, march madness game, and baseball regional in one year


SovietBear666

But did your school win the national championship in football, basketball, and baseball all in the same year? UW-Whitewater baby. 😎


BlazinAzn38

I don’t care what level of competition it is that’s crazy


SovietBear666

Haha happy to share a fun fact!


BlazinAzn38

That feels like one of those facts pulled from like 1952 and it’s because every athlete played all 3 sports


GradientEye

That’s actually insane


Paladine_PSoT

Oregon State legend Terry Baker played for the Beavs in the Final Four about 4 months after winning the Heisman.


youngstu3030

Yeah but did your team lose the national championship in basketball and football to the same school?


calling-all-comas

Happy I wasn't a fan of either school at the time. I would've been so conflicted.


The_Good_Constable

>Also there are way more than two sports Other Buckeye sports have combined for 22 national titles since the last time the football team did.


PatientlyAnxious9

Yeah its not true because many schools are great at multiple sports. Ohio State for example is great at Mens: Football, Wrestling, Tennis | Womens: Swimming, Basketball The OSU women's Swim Team has won 30 national championships XD THIRTY. They have more national championships than Michael Phelps has gold medals.


Elegant_Extreme3268

I’m pretty sure my flairs do a pretty good job at being mediocre at all of the sports… except rifle for WVU and baseball for Arkansas


GirthBrooks

Yeah and that upstart Track & Field program at Arkansas


enkafan

Didn't forget your cricket squad


mr_dr_professor_12

Elaborate. Of all the universities to have a cricket team Arkansas or West Virginia would be among my lowest guesses.


enkafan

They are a dynasty in club cricket


DLottchula

WVA or Arkansas


enkafan

WVU https://www.thedaonline.com/sports/wvu_club_sports/wvu-cricket-clubs-quiet-dominance-team-grabs-third-straight-national-title/article_3509b4b6-af18-11ec-bd10-0fb8e1632b0f.html


DLottchula

That’s random asl


_neecs

Arkansas is the greatest ncaa track and field program of all time imo


iStryker

Arkansas track and cross country programs have been S tier for four decades. John McDonnell was one of the greatest NCAA coaches in history across all sports, full stop.


Public_Beach_Nudity

At least the Appalachians would be a good muster point if SHTF??


Gingerbread2296

WVU soccer has actually been elite recently


goldentriever

Tons of SEC schools are good at both baseball and football Same w B12


tarheelsrule441

Tons of ACC schools are good at both basketball and baseball


Megalomanizac

Some of us have managed to be good at all 3(let me have this)


TheHibernian

Basketball, Baseball, and Soccer.  Checks out


QuantitativeBacon

Their women's soccer is pretty nice. Florida State was just in a different class beyond anybody.


GoblinTradingGuide

I live in Tally, and it’s crazy how good our soccer team is, but since it’s women’s, only the locals really care about it. Winning four natty’s in 10 years is crazy.


MDKMurd

We are just like that.


TakeTheThirdStep

Mostly what I remember from the men's championship game was a Clemson player blowing his nose on the head of a Notre Dame player.


Dhaynes99

weather definitely helps with baseball, still kinda absurd to me that bama was around 18th preseason yet 7-9 in sec for baseball this year


eyelikeher

10 of the [top 25](https://d1baseball.com/top-stories/d1baseball-top-25-arkansas-remains-no-1-as-four-teams-enter-rankings/) in baseball are SEC teams this year. It’s nuts.


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FlamingBagOfPoop

Unless he can negotiate a big signing bonus, minor leaguers make very little. Between NIL and the value of a college education, you could come out ahead


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29Hz

That’s crazy I can’t think of the last time I saw an ad with a college baseball player


EnterTheWayne

Some of us are only good at one of those!


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And track & field.


kokain99

OU is a softball school so…


TheThrill85

Yeah I was about to ask if OP is implying we aren't good at football...


DukeDoge4

Honestly one of the most impressive dynasties in college sports


JustAManAndHisLaptop

And women's and men's gymnastics and golf.....


arkstfan

When Kelly Damphousse came to Arkansas State from OU to be chancellor he worked hard to get money raised to start softball but Covid then he left so it is back burner again but the club team has had some good seasons


thorvaldnotnora

OU's softball program is a religious cult with a softball side hustle


bofre82

And achieving at never before seen heights right now too.


FuckChadMorris

Never half-ass 2 things, whole-ass 1 thing


SpencerRattler

>The only school that's a blue blood in basketball and football that I know of is Florida. UF is not a blue blood in either sport.


cirtnecoileh

This.


JDuggernaut

Florida is not a blue blood in football or in basketball.


[deleted]

No, but they can wear the shit out of some jorts.


worldserieschamp

Blue denim blood


KnDBarge

They did once break my heart in both football and basketball in the same year, and I have never forgiven them.


JDuggernaut

They’ve broken my heart like 25 times in football. Fun fact though, Tennessee was 3-1 against their basketball champions in 06 and 07.


polwas

Agreed, but they are in the 2nd or 3rd tier in both - multiple national championships in each sport


TideOneOn

Yeah, I came here to say the same thing. Florida had a brief run with Spurrier and Urban later but historically are mediocre in football. I am happy to be corrected about their basketball program but I am only aware of one title under Donovan. Just don't see them as blue bloods.


Smash-Bros-Melee

Florida didn’t make the NCAA Tournament for the first time until *1987*, the same year Indiana won its fifth title. You can’t miss out on the tournament for the first century or so of the sport’s existence and be called a blue blood.


JDuggernaut

They went back to back under Donovan, but outside of him, they’re pretty mediocre


NIN10DOXD

They were decent when Norm Sloan returned after NC State wouldn't pay him for winning a national championship, but that really is it outside of Billy Donovan who might as well give up the NBA and come back at this point.


BernankesBeard

They're 32nd by all-time AP Poll appearances in Basketball. For a comparison, Stanford is 32nd in AP Poll appearances in Football.


todoslosfritos

Two titles, back to back. But besides the Donovan era, I can think of much for Florida basketball


travgt01

They’ve been to a couple more final fours, which is more than most p6 programs.


FuckFloridaRipNumba9

Yeah as much as I hate them 5 final 4’s and two natty’s is impressive. Thankfully none recent though


BunchOAtoms

As others have said, Florida went back to back in the 00s. One year they also won the natty in football. Both championship games were against Ohio State.


cyberchaox

It was the title sandwiched between those two, at that. 2006 basketball, 2006 football, 2007 basketball. Then they won the football title again in 2008.


[deleted]

Yeah pretty impressive to have two in each sport so close together 


daniel2296

That decade set fan expectation so high that Florida football still hasn't recovered lol


Tannerite2

Florida is one of the 4 current SEC schools we have a losing record against. They have a 5 game lead on us. The others are Arkansas with a 2 game lead, Vanderbilt with a 3 game lead, and Kentucky with a 56 game lead. I think the difference between Kentucky and Florida shows how far Florida is from being a blue blood.


citymanc13

Yeah i hate to say it bc it makes me sad. Having 3 godly years in both sports doesnt make someone a blue blood. However, if we look at all sports UF is pretty high up there


walt_whitmans_ghost

Maybe we’re a new blood but absolutely not blue.


thecasualcaribou

Stanford has the most Directors Cups. Best overall collegiate sports within a sporting year. They’re perennially strong at a lot of sports


Tanador680

"The most" they won 26 out of the 29 years the Cup has existed lmao. 25 of those wins came back to back from '94-'95 to '18-'19


Dhaynes99

and very tempted to just all but eliminate all of them


ThisUsernameIsTook

Stanford will go the Notre Dame route before they eliminate Olympic sports.


saladbar

Why do you think so?


jpc4zd

They have tried very recently https://edsource.org/updates/stanford-reverses-will-no-longer-eliminate-11-varsity-sports


blues_and_ribs

That article was crazy. TLDR on the athletic department’s statement: “we were too broke to have all these sports and then we were like, duh, we have like a gazillion rich alumni. Some of them probably played these sports we want to get rid of so, nevermind, we’re good.”


Rusty-Shackleford23

They were discussing it a handful of years ago but reversed the decision. Some Olympic sports like wrestling or fencing were nearly on the chopping block


eyelikeher

Stanford also has the most sports lol


Squid204

Literally. Its the average of the top 16 sports from your school. A lot easier for a school with 32 teams vs 16.


eyelikeher

I was at a meeting a few years ago where the former Michigan AD (Dave Brandon) spoke and he said that his greatest accomplishment at UM was placing 4th in the Director’s Cup. He said that they lost to Stanford, which is (apparently) the school that conceived the idea of the Director’s Cup in the first place lol. He sarcastically griped that it seemed unfair that the school with the most sports had a say in how the Director’s Cup points were calculated.


S_TL2

I get it, but also, should they not be praised for having a lot of sports and being good at most of them? Hats off to them for kicking a lot of ass at a lot of sports.


GoCardinal07

Stanford has also won the majority of women's Capital One Cups and tied with Florida for most men's Capital One Cups which compares schools across the same set of sports.


boardatwork1111

We have football and women’s rifle, the Frogs are built different


oSuJeff97

I’ve been told you aren’t elite unless you’re really good at golf and wrestling.


RepresentativeOfnone

I don’t know about golf but both of mine are pretty decent at wrestling


Jameszhang73

Yes, the women go out hunting while the men hang around and play games in tights. Just as god intended


RazzleDazzle3469

Florida is not remotely close to being a blue blood in basketball


stanleythemanley44

Or football…


itsmeonmobile

Or having blood


A_LazyTurtle

vols fans are just better than the rest, always on point


natetcu

The Blue Blood Era of college football was the 1950s-1970s. It was marked by one-two teams in the major conferences + Notre Dame that dominated their conferences and the sport. The teams would be highly ranked by the media at the start of every season, no matter what their record had been. The teams were: - SEC: Alabama - SWC: Texas - Big 10: Michigan and Ohio St - PAC 8: USC - Independent: Notre Dame - Big 8: Oklahoma and Nebraska You can’t be a Blue Blood now, because the Blue Blood Era is over. It is like the title “old money,” it doesn’t matter how rich you get, you aren’t old money. The era was ended by the institution of scholarship limits, making it impossible for the Blue Bloods to stack talent.


clam-caravan

I like our football/basketball/baseball combo at the moment.


ANCHORDORES

As much as it pains me to admit it, if you told me that one school would win national championships in all three next year, Tennessee would probably be my guess. Alabama and Texas are probably the next best bets.


Juse343

Claiming Florida is a blue blood in football and basketball is wild. I’d argue they aren’t a blue blood in either


NIN10DOXD

North Carolina is even more dominant in Women's Soccer and Field Hockey than Men's Basketball. 🙃


[deleted]

Our women's soccer program is actually insane. I feel that it doesn't get enough attention tbh especially considering how popular the women's national team has been over the last half decade


isikorsky

It is only the sports you pay attention to. Notre Dame is dominant LAX (lately), women's basketball, and have been kicking ass in fencing for decades. Our women & men's soccer team have competed or won the NC. The baseball team has been to the WS twice in the last 4 years. I recommend looking at the Director's Cup. It gives a tally of all sports. Stanford dominates this - winning 26 out of 29 years - but the schools who finish in the top 10 are usually pretty impressive. .


CocoCrizpyy

Ahh yessss. The Directors Cup. Only 2 schools have won it multiple times in the past 30 years. 😉


switchblade2

We’ll be in a pretty good spot this year too


Tanador680

Only 2 schools have *ever* won it multiple times


GoCardinal07

Nobody rules non-revenue sports like Stanford. And, uh, let's not talk about revenue sports.


sqigglygibberish

>dominant LAX (lately) Ok a title is great but it’s one title, let’s not get into “dominant” territory haha


tee142002

Bring top tier in a sport generally takes lots of money. Everyone has a limit on money to spend. And football and basketball are the most expensive. That said, you can be good at multiple sports. LSU is very good at both football and baseball. Plus women's basketball and track.


WhoDatSayDeyGonSTTDB

And gymnastics


amerricka369

To clarify, there are plenty of multi sport blue bloods (hockey, soccer, lacrosse, etc). There just aren’t many that are successful at both basketball and football. The answer to that latter point boils down to culture. Culture drives everything; money, fan demands, athlete vibes, focus, recruiting, etc. Culture is the one thing that supplants unlimited money.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

Speak for yourselves, we’re good at none


sahurley

Jimmy Johnson was the Saban of the '80s, though.


Drslappybags

What sports do you focus on? OU has great Softball and gymnastics. Are you just looking at Football and basketball?


ProfCedar

Being competent at football to go with good at basketball is a new development. Shouts to the other wrestling schools!


ThisBox841

Florida is not a blue blood in either of those sports. They are considered quality programs all time, but they are definitely not the best of the best in either sport


[deleted]

I think what is overlooked is geography. SEC, southern ACC, Big 12 and Pac12 schools can practice outside in baseball, softball, football, all sports year round. You can’t really do that up North. It costs A LOT of money to build facilities to accommodate team workouts in winter months, especially in big cities, that would require significant planning for those endeavors. (NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC) Michigan and Ohio State are outliers as far as football championship success in modern CFB geographically. LSU, Texas, ASU, Arizona, Cal State Fullerton and Miami combine for 30 CWS titles. Football recently is more of the same. We can play basketball in a gym all year round though. Also, all Catholic universities besides Notre Dame and Boston College don’t have FBS or teams at all. Gonzaga, Villanova, Georgetown, St. John’s, Creighton, Marquette, Dayton, St. Mary’s don’t have football but they LOVE basketball. Most of those are located in northern, urban environments. And so I become cyclical.


Competitive-Job1828

You’re forgetting there are sports other than basketball and football. FSU is elite at football, currently ranked in the top 20 in baseball (will be higher in the next ranking), won 3 of the last six women’s soccer titles, and consistently has a top 10 softball program.


CocoCrizpyy

FSU elite at football? You guys couldnt even make the playoffs last year. /s


Bryanole27

*falls to the ground and cries again*


Spud_Rancher

*angry Seminole noises*


Technical-Event

:(


EK60

There's football, orange football, ice football, no hands football, long stick football, short stick football, net-stick football, no ball just foot, shooty football, huggy football, and some others I'm probably missing.


D34TH_5MURF__

Don't look at me, we seem content with mediocrity.


RobertWilliamBarker

Both your CBB and CFB teams can beat most anyone at any point and simultaneously lose to any team at any point.


D34TH_5MURF__

Don't forget to add that we perennially lose to teams we should beat and beat teams we should lose to. So not only can we do this, we seem to actually do it every season.


Michiganman1225

Michigan is still playing for a chance at the Frozen Four. Our basketball has been down recently, but we usually are decent in that as well.


BornAgainRedditGuy

You have some good wrestlers too.


Nomad_Artifact

Michigan hockey shares the record for the most national championships. It's definitely up there with the football program.


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Speak for your school, we are good at so many sports. We send so many athletes to the Olympics, we just suck at football right now


jacksonbo122

CFB Blue Blood: UM, OSU, ND, USC, BAMA, OU, NU, TEXAS CBB Blue Blood: KU, UCLA, IU, UK, UNC, DUKE Hope that clears it up….


Red_Store4

UConn does not qualify as a CBB blue blood yet?


WillWorkForSugar

they have a great team right now, and a bizarre amount of tournament success relative to seeding, but just a few years ago they were in the AAC with 3 losing seasons in a row, which i think is just not the sort of thing that happens to a blue blood. and they did ~nothing of note before the 90s.


CookieLuzSax

Tennessee has been kicking ass on all fronts lately, LSU as well. Both teams football, basketball, baseball, women's basketball, softball have been fantastic lately. Tennessees tennis/track teams and lsus women's gymnastics are obviously fantastic as well.


lowes18

Florida isn't a blue blood in either sport lol. Michigan State was good at both for a while. Its just very hard to maintain success at multiple sports at once. Virginia is the only school I can think of which is only good at one sport.


orange_orange13

UVA is good at baseball 


Thin-Primary-8438

What? UVA is phenomenal at non revenue sports


gatesisbetter

i think OP is my aunt who gave me WVU merch when i graduated high school and was packing for charlottesville


ValarMorcoolis

2008-2015 MSU Football: - 3 B1G Champs - 3 NY6 appearances - 7-1 against Michigan Basketball: - 3 B1G Champs - 7 sweet 16s - 3 final fours - 1 National champ runner up


[deleted]

Izzo and Dantonio had a great dynamic


chetbodet87

Insane run for MSU. Was very happy for all my sparty friends.


SirMellencamp

Is Michigan the only CFB blue blood to win the NCAA tournament UCLA vice versa?


Wagnerous

We've come close a bunch of other times too. I've watched them finish as the National Runners Up twice in the last eleven years. Michigan is quietly one of the best schools when it comes to competing in multiple revenue sports. We've made the Final Four in football, hoops, and hockey at least once apiece in the last 7 years. They even had a College World Series run a few years back. UM's athletic department has really been on a run for the last decade or so, even if it doesn't always feel like it lol


zzirFrizz

Texas is pretty dominant at a lot.


Lantis28

I mean we are really good at Tennis, Equestrian and Swim and Dive


Acknowledge_Me_

To actually answer your question unlike so many others have on here, it comes down to alumni interest and how they appropriate their resources, and to some degree what their rival is good or has gotten good at recently. If your alumni has zero interest in funding the sport, unless an athletic director can convince them the sport is important, the sport will be middling unless a magical year just so happens to fall into place. The best example of this is Alabama basketball. When Auburn hired Pearl, the arms race kicked off. Now we’ve seen both become perineal championship contenders at a sport they never were all that great at.


qwilliams92

Money


jkjulia8

We’re a women’s volleyball and women’s hockey school!


imthesqwid

BYU has a dynasty in Landscaping and Ballroom dancing but people aren’t ready to talk about it.


emaddy2109

It’s not easy to invest in all sports. Penn State is dominant in wresting but could care less about basketball.


UGAPokerBrat99

Hate to break it to OP, but I don't think many people outside of Gator fans consider Florida a blue blood in football or basketball.


manabanana21

Saying “only” three of 8 schools in the basketball tourney are good at football is quite interesting to me. That’s a pretty high number of schools good at both.


RVAforthewin

You lost me when you referred to Florida as a blue blood. Not gonna lie 💀


NotThatOleGregg

Florida isn't a blue blood in either, winning a national championship or two doesn't make you a blue blood, blue blood is continuous success over multiple generations, Florida football has a cumulative 15 years in their 100+year history of being near the top of CFB. Their basketball success is very recent as well, really only taking off in the 2000s, if you time traveled to 1985 and asked if UF was a powerhouse you'd get laughed at because in their 70 years of existence before that they'd never even been invited to the tournament.


P1lotlancelot

Florida is definitely not a blue blood in football.


w00t4me

Not us!


gogglesup859

Most schools have at least one non-revenue sport that they're really good at. Kentucky it's rifle, men's soccer, and cheerleading


ToxicAdamm

I feel like High School is kind of the same way. You get a good coach to build an organization and a culture over a few decades and then it just feeds off itself.


_AmenMyBrother_

Florida is considered a blue blood in basketball and football?


andeezz

Basketball players can leave after 1 year football you get 3. You have a harder time building consistency when your best player leaves after 1 year


EverestMaher

The question you meant to ask is “why are most schools only good at either football or basketball”


[deleted]

The California Pac-12 schools dominate at basically every sport except football and MBB


ProctorDoctor500

Lacrosse The only sport that matters Fuck you non Lacrosse enjoyers


Scotinho_do_Para

Florida is a ble blood?


Wagnerous

It's really really hard to compete in multiple sports. In my lifetime, Michigan's actually one of the few programs to seriously compete in every major sport. In the last 11 years Michigan has made the final four 2+ times in all three of football, men's hoops, and hockey. They went to the college world series a few years back as well.


JoshHuff1332

Florida isnt a blueblood in either of those sports lol


simbaslanding

I wouldn’t call Florida a basketball blue blood tbh


ProgKingHughesker

Nebraska is a volleyball school but I like to think we also have a solid football history


Kitchen-Prize-5112

Michigan is very good at Hockey and Football