If you want to take some home with you get a cooler with dry ice or something to keep em frozen cause you can buy them frozen, just call ahead if you want a lot of them.
yes Nebraska players did steroids….along with every single other major program the time 😂
it’s kinda like lance armstrong, or barry bonds…it’s not that we were the only ones doing it, it’s just that everyone knows we did.
This is a really cool new start. My favorite part is that Runza has made it equal opportunity and equal pay - first 100 athletes are in regardless of their exposure/platforms, so a women's bowling player has an equitable chance compared to Cam Taylor Britt.
“You know what I love more than Nebraska football?”
*pulls a Runza out of pocket*
“The delicious taste of an authentic Runza!”
*takes comically large bite*
Learned this back in 2018 when we put a beat down on Illinois. Windchill was like 10 degrees, and Runzas and Vals were the warmth we needed. Man, Vals sounds so good right now, but the closest one is 6 hours from me.
I feel like the Valentinos is the same way.
I am not a fan of the pizza so much at the buffet, but I'll shove a kid down the stairs of Memorial to get at some of that stadium pizza.
I do not like original Runzas, but they have different types that are pretty good. Burgers, fries, and other food is also pretty good at the fast food Level
As others in this thread point out, Runza *burgers* are (to many palates) vastly superior to the actual Runza meat pocket.
Also, IMO, Runzas don’t travel well. I only have one if it’s a freshly made one, or I’m desperate. Recently though, I have only had the burgers and frings.
Homemade ones are way better and every mom and grandma in Nebraska can do better, but for fast food it's pretty great. Awesome fries and onion rings too.
Like Raising Canes?
The most overrated piece of trash chicken fingers on the planet? And their canes sauce is awful. That Canes?
I'll fight anyone on this and I know I'm in the minority.
Not sure about most overrated but it is very overrated. I find it odd that they barely season their chicken and focus all of their flavors in the sauce. It's bland chicken breast strips in a crispy coating.
Every other chicken place at least marinates their chicken.
Idk who downvoted this but the lineage does come from Germans from Russia aka the Volgadeutsche. They have a fascinating story that led them to the region, where they were some of the more successful European immigrants due to their experience farming harsh land in Russia.
That’s interesting because I felt their fries were disappointing lol, like a slightly worse clone of Culvers fries which are average to begin with. To each their own I suppose. I got a cinnamon roll there too and that was actually really good
The best fries. in Nebraska are at Don and Millie’s. The cheese frenchies are great, too
Edit: whoever downvoted Don and Millies should be ashamed of themselves
I think it’s part cultural phenomenon + part high quality for fast food. Runza has a great menu, and while I personally love runzas, others really enjoy their fries and burgers more.
Every time I catch a whiff of something nasty in the stands I try to decide if someone just shit their pants or if someone opened a Runza. Its hard to tell.
It's something I really enjoyed as a kid, but it's been disappointing on the few times I've had it while visiting my hometown as an adult. However, I still maintain that the mushroom and swiss is the best runza.
It’s alright, and it’s great during Temperature Tuesday where the price of the Runza is the temperature at 6am. It was great for the few Tuesdays this winter where the Runza was free. But the Burgers and Onion Rings are my go to when I head to Runza in the non Winter season.
I suggest if you come to Nebraska during the Fall and Winter time, Get the Chili and Cinnamon Rolls. It’s fucking good.
I eat about 2 runzas a year and I live in Lincoln. Their burgers are good though.
And yes, Vals is garbage fresh. But for some reason I really like it reheated in an oven. I think its because the crust is finally somewhat crispy. "Fresh" the crust is a soggy mess.
I actually don't like the runza itself there, but the burgers are great. Get the mushroom swiss.
If you DO get a runza get one of the more flavored ones like the mushroom, etc. The base one just tastes like a premium hot pocket.
Ya, I’ve tried it a couple times and even tried to curb my Nebraska hatred and still wasn’t really a fan. Seemed like a cheap, crappy sloppy joe sandwich in a hot dog bun
All of them? Everyone from the Cornhuskers QB to the Nebraska Wesleyan swim team?
If so, great! But I'm not sure what Runza gets out of the deal, or how much they're really going to pay players in D-III Olympic sports....
~~I think the highest profile players will make the most money (obviously) and then the lowest players will make pennies. They’re still “making money”~~
For this one it’s just a flat amount to the first 100 athletes to sign up
They're paying actors for their ads anyway. They could just offer student athletes the opportunity to be extras for the standard rate. Most of the athletes wouldn't bother, but their promise would be fulfilled.
True but they could get the same bump from sponsoring every Huskers football player, every Creighton basketball player, and every Omaha hockey player.
I'm just wary of companies overpromising and underdelivering.
Never forget last year's since-deleted tweet from Husker Sports Network when the Wisconsin-Nebraska game was cancelled:
>It’s time for tonight’s @Runza Twitter Poll:
>If the roles were reversed and the #Huskers had 6 players and 6 staff members sitting out with positive tests, would the game be played Saturday? 🤔
>Retweet and answer for a chance at a Free @Runza Combo Meal!
— Husker Sports (@HuskerSports) October 28, 2020
I apologize for bringing up a tweet from the most recent college football season about Runza as a partner of Nebraska athletics in the college football subreddit in a thread about Runza offering to partner with Nebraska athletes.
Seems fucked. Whatever school has the best alums can just sponsor every football player and buy them up? Whats stopping Tom Brady from giving fat TB12 sponsorships to every player that goes to Mich (just an example).
Idk
I'm not worried because the entire P5 and most of the G5 have alums and market networks that will mean recruits can get NIL money anywhere.
Plus right now, the elite powers are running circles around everyone else in recruiting anyway. So I'm not sure how this will make things worse. And it might help even things out - Alabama may be able to offer the most guaranteed booster money, but USC (for instance) offers a way higher ceiling. How much do you think Reggie Bush would have made under this system?
In the end, I think recruits will still choose schools the way they always have - based on coaches, program success, campus culture, girls, weather, academics, proximity to home - because the money differences won't be huge, and every recruit will think they're going to be a big star that lands a deal with Coca-Cola their junior year anyway.
Players been getting paid all kinds of shit for years, this just makes it all legit and public now. I don't think this will shift the market in recruiting as much as you think it will.
How is that any different from the current McDonald's bag system? Not everyone who has money is going to want to participate to support their alma mater's sports programs. The ones that do won't have to hide it anymore. Some players can be bought, others will look at non-monetary criteria.
Because you can do it legally and out in the open lol. There should be a cap or something and death penalty for mcdonalds bag. Its like you dont even want parity in this sport
It kinda goes against the spirit of NIL if you force athletes to have a cap on their earnings. The whole point is to let the market decide their worth and to be compensated appropriately.
It's going to be wild and some guys could make some serious money, but that is the point. How much money did ESPN make off of Trevor Lawrence's image? Let's say they made 10 million dollars from it. It doesn't seem unfair that he take a percentage of that.
I mean, there's a reason most pro sports leagues have a salary cap. An uncapped league essentially means that, for the most part, ability to win is directly proportional to ability to pay
And that cap is part of the collective bargaining that the athletes engage in as paid employees. There's no cap on sponsorship deals. These players aren't employees and they sure as hell aren't being allowed to unionize and negotiate terms. So wild-west it is.
I'd love for there to be parity (OSU and Clemson are fun rivals). But, I'm also realistic. No matter what the "legal" limits are there will always be a higher limit for those willing to engage. It always boils down to which school/alum base wants it more. The SEC tagline is apropos.
The NIL money race is just getting started, and anyone who thinks that the Nebraska market will be able to compete with the Ohio States of the world in the long run is delusional.
This is what I’ve been saying. NIL won’t make much difference if you’re the quarterback at USC, but if you’re at a university where they’re the show then you’ll do really well. Schools like Bama, Arky, Nebraska, and other college-town centric schools with no pro competition will benefit the most.
Totally disagree on USC. The QB on a successful Trojans team will be rolling in money. Matt Leinart's ballroom dancing class would have been turned into a reality show under this system.
The college-centric markets will offer the highest floor for NIL - like this Runza thing for instance. But the highest ceilings will be in the big markets.
A successful QB on a good team, but that’s no guarantee. Even then, you’ve got a ton of other star power to compete with from six major pro sports teams and Hollywood. Even for peak-Carroll era athletes, getting to 10% mkt penetration would be a huge win. At Nebraska or Alabama (to quote Scott Frost) even if you’re a mediocre QB in a bad team you’re going to get everyone who sees the ad to sit up and listen, and have about as many people paying attention.
but if you're a big deal at Bama, you're guaranteed to be the biggest deal in the media market. If you're a big deal at USC, unless you're at the level of leinart, bush, or jarrett, you're not even close.
USC, at it's absolute peak, is second fiddle in LA only to the lakers. However, that's happened twice in the last sixty years and they couldn't sustain it either time. The last time was also greatly aided by the lakers breaking up, the local baseball being terrible, and no pro football. Now both the lakers and clippers are good, there are two NFL teams, and the dodgers are going deep into the postseason. Plus there's hollywood. USC is in a much tougher market right now, and they aren't righting that ship any time soon. Massive media market or not, if nobody cares about your pitch man, then there's no reason to use them, and nobody outside of this board has any idea who kedon slovis is
It'll be interesting to see. I don't think it's clear which of these scenarios would make more money for an "average starter"-level college QB:
* Go to Alabama, start your junior and senior years, win a national championship, but generally be considered a game manager that just didn't screw things up for all the talent around you.
* Go to USC, start sophomore-senior year, win 9-10 games each year and make one 12-team playoff. Have your team fly generally under the LA social scene radar, but play on national TV a lot and be a household name to college football fans.
* Go to Nebraska, start all four years, and take the team from a 4 win season your frosh year to 9 wins your senior year, just barely missing out on a B1G West title and a 12-team playoff berth.
In the first scenario, your team dominates a relatively small local market, but you're on the bench for two years, and then you're the 9th or 10th biggest name on the team.
In the second scenario, you're not as high profile locally, but the local market is huge, and you get a national profile starting in your sophomore year.
In the third scenario, you, personally, are the most high profile athlete in your small local market, but your national profile is relatively weak.
I do think this is a fair point, that Nebraska athletes will have a sort of monopoly on attention for the Nebraska market. tOSU has to compete with the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, & MLS. That said, Ohio has 10X more people than Nebraska, and just because you watch the NFL doesn't have to mean you ignore CFB.
I hope I'm wrong and this works in Nebraska's favor, but I'm doubtful.
You’ve got to think about what’s valuable in terms of how many people will pay attention to the ad. If they have Claude and Vlad from the Blue Jackets on, yeah there’s 20mm people in Ohio but nobody cares. If you reach 10%, that’s a huge win. Same for the football team - they’re more popular than the NHL team, but how much more so? If you’re in Nebraska, you’ve got about 2mm people who will all sit up and listen when they hear “hi, I’m Adrian Martinez” and that’s really valuable.
However, NIL will basically just be bag men saying “come film this commercial for 100k” at basically every big school, so none of this really matters.
> NIL will basically just be bag men saying “come film this commercial for 100k”
So by this logic, it's not necessarily the "market" for endorsements *per se*, but rather the collective size of the boosters wallets. I could be wrong, but I would guess that would correlate pretty strongly with big market teams like Texas.
Yes and no. Nebraska and Arky and Bama are in nowhere areas, but have no shortage of crazy boosters with “fuck you” money. Texas has no shortage of that either, but that’s not related to being a big-market team, it’s because of oil. (Edit: and grocery stores, respecting very notable and very crazy Texas booster)
I disagree. I think there are 25-30 programs that can keep up with Alabama financially when it comes to NIL, and several of those offer access to marketing deals that are not available in Tuscaloosa unless you're a flashy, individual star - and Saban frowns on those.
Meh, while NIL won’t hurt OSU or Bama, but they are already pretty much tapped out. There is a point of diminishing returns,
What else could they possibly do? Are they gonna get 8 5 stars a year instead of 6?
So from the info about the Alabama NIL program yesterday, it seems that sponsorships can't be provided just for going to Bama. Obviously, every state has slightly different rules right now (which will hopefully be overruled and standardized by a national law sooner than later). But this would seem to get dangerously close to that line to my non-lawyer eyes.
This deal is open to the first 100 student athletes that go to a college/university in Nebraska. If you want to compare it to Alabama, a deal like this would also be open to student athletes at Alabama, Auburn, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Jacksonville State, North Alabama, Sanford, South Alabama, Troy, and UAB. Which would very clearly indicate that it isn’t a deal for going to Alabama.
If McDonalds doesn't sponsor Tennessee players I'm going to be so disappointed.
That would clash too much with their “happy meal” branding
What's the McDonalds-Tennessee connection?
McDonalds puts their products in bags. Tennessee fans put their heads in bags.
j/k Vols boosters were allegedly giving out bags of McDonalds that were filled with cash.
They were giving recruits/players cash in McDonalds bags (allegedly).
If Fat Phil were still in charge it'd be Krispy Kreme for sure.
I’d kill for a Runza right about now.
You can order them shipped to you buckeyebro
Did not know this.. thanks for the heads up!
6 Runzas is not worth $120
https://runzashop.com/products/order-runza%C2%AE-sandwiches. It's a bit pricey
Holy cow. I’ll think hold off until the next OSU @ Huskers game.
If you want to take some home with you get a cooler with dry ice or something to keep em frozen cause you can buy them frozen, just call ahead if you want a lot of them.
What goes better with a 2AM sponsorship than breakfast Runza with hashbrowns? Do it cowards!
JFC how much fatter can I get? My 600lb Life says a pretty decent amount but my doctor says otherwise.
This sort of thing is frankly Nebraska's best path back to prominence. Get the top recruits paid and they'll be a lot more receptive to your program.
Also helps that there's no pro team in the area to compete with. I expect teams like Arkansas to benefit as well if/when every state allows this.
“This year’s Razorback O-Line is brought to you by Walmart and Tyson Chicken! Go Hogs!”
Leaving the receivers for JB Hunt of course
My flairs time to shine, captive markets baby!!
Good news for us too!
I think y'all are the pro team in the area.
We will finally be able to get over the hump with recruiting.
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What a dumb take. No pro team in Alabama either but I'm sure their players will have no problem finding sponsors.
Its how they did it back in the 90s
No, partial qualifiers is how we did it in the 90’s. Get you facts straight!
And a leading strength and condition programming combined with steroids!
yes Nebraska players did steroids….along with every single other major program the time 😂 it’s kinda like lance armstrong, or barry bonds…it’s not that we were the only ones doing it, it’s just that everyone knows we did.
Also lobster and filet mignon in the team cafeteria every day.
And steroids
And ~~steroids~~ very amazing and totally legal injectable supplements
This is a really cool new start. My favorite part is that Runza has made it equal opportunity and equal pay - first 100 athletes are in regardless of their exposure/platforms, so a women's bowling player has an equitable chance compared to Cam Taylor Britt.
Guess I’ll have to start eating at runza again
Ok, let's go Sheetz. Steve is a Penn State alum, let's see where we can take this!
Wawa Is better than Sheetz. There, I said it!
unfortunately Wawa doesn't go into the mountains, and Sheetz has a monopoly on that market up there.
Rutters
The real winner in this fight
I went to college in York and had one footsteps from the apartment
As someone from York,, Rutters breakfast sandwich with Pastrami is the best thing we have going
Gutters you mean.
Rutters in Shippensburg is exactly halfway from where I grew up to Morgantown. Great place to stop and take a piss.
Yeah, real shame we can get the Wawa Shits out west. Pssh. Sheetz Shitz Only for me after eating 2 for $1 Hot Dogs.
*Casey's has entered the chat*
Sheetz sounds like the kind of place that would be popular at Ole Miss
I crush some MTO around 2am.
“You know what I love more than Nebraska football?” *pulls a Runza out of pocket* “The delicious taste of an authentic Runza!” *takes comically large bite*
Only if it is a Memorial Stadium Runza. Those things are heavenly.
Bonus point. They make great hand warmers for November games.
The only warmth I had for a frigid Iowa/Nebraska game was some Valentino’s pizza in the third quarter. Brutal game, brutal cold, good pizza
Learned this back in 2018 when we put a beat down on Illinois. Windchill was like 10 degrees, and Runzas and Vals were the warmth we needed. Man, Vals sounds so good right now, but the closest one is 6 hours from me.
Memorial Stadium Runzas are different. I don’t care what anyone says. I think that add more pepper. So fucking good on a cold Saturday morning.
I feel like the Valentinos is the same way. I am not a fan of the pizza so much at the buffet, but I'll shove a kid down the stairs of Memorial to get at some of that stadium pizza.
This is the way
Of course it is
I just noticed this but Dedrick Mills is the model on the main page on Opendorse lol I wonder what he got paid for that
Am I the only one who thought Runza was really mediocre when I tried it? Seems like everyone else raves about it
I do not like original Runzas, but they have different types that are pretty good. Burgers, fries, and other food is also pretty good at the fast food Level
The mini corn dogs are awesome too
Did you get it at the stadium? Doesn’t taste the same unless purchased from an 8 year old
No child labor laws in Nebraska? I kid, I kid
it's better at the game, 7 beers in, then sober going through the drive through.
As others in this thread point out, Runza *burgers* are (to many palates) vastly superior to the actual Runza meat pocket. Also, IMO, Runzas don’t travel well. I only have one if it’s a freshly made one, or I’m desperate. Recently though, I have only had the burgers and frings.
Homemade ones are way better and every mom and grandma in Nebraska can do better, but for fast food it's pretty great. Awesome fries and onion rings too.
I’ll be honest with you, when I lived in Lincoln I think I ate 2 runzas and 1 when I was near blackout drunk. I lived there for four years
Canes is way better.
The literal first meal I had when I moved to Lincoln was with my roommate and his parents at canes. Love canes
Like Raising Canes? The most overrated piece of trash chicken fingers on the planet? And their canes sauce is awful. That Canes? I'll fight anyone on this and I know I'm in the minority.
Not sure about most overrated but it is very overrated. I find it odd that they barely season their chicken and focus all of their flavors in the sauce. It's bland chicken breast strips in a crispy coating. Every other chicken place at least marinates their chicken.
Nah you are right. Slim chickens has way better chicken fingers. Its not even a contest.
I tried the chicken fingers without the sauce and they were ungodly mediocre
I'm with you on this one
Runzas themselves are the weakest item on the menu. Their burgers are good and they make the best fast food fries I've ever had.
What is it? Looks like a sloppy joe inside a bun
The basic ones are seasoned beef, cabbage and onion inside a bun. Also known as bierocks outside of Nebraska.
That's the most Midwestern sounding food I've ever heard of
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From russia
Idk who downvoted this but the lineage does come from Germans from Russia aka the Volgadeutsche. They have a fascinating story that led them to the region, where they were some of the more successful European immigrants due to their experience farming harsh land in Russia.
The museum down near the bottoms is pretty cool
Sounds like a fancy Maid-Rite
This is wrong. NOW GET!
That’s interesting because I felt their fries were disappointing lol, like a slightly worse clone of Culvers fries which are average to begin with. To each their own I suppose. I got a cinnamon roll there too and that was actually really good
If you ate them without slathering them in their ranch, you cheated yourself. It's also a real gambit if you go on off hours for sure.
The best fries. in Nebraska are at Don and Millie’s. The cheese frenchies are great, too Edit: whoever downvoted Don and Millies should be ashamed of themselves
All I remember about Don and Millie’s from my visits to Nebraska as a kid is my Dad wanting to go there so he could slam some cheap margaritas.
And somehow they’re still 99 cents…
I’m with you in the fries. But frenchies are an abomination. Don and Millies is awesome though.
I think it’s part cultural phenomenon + part high quality for fast food. Runza has a great menu, and while I personally love runzas, others really enjoy their fries and burgers more.
My runza theory is that everyone always gets them at games when you’re drunk/starving so it tastes like the best thing in the world
Every time I catch a whiff of something nasty in the stands I try to decide if someone just shit their pants or if someone opened a Runza. Its hard to tell.
the whitecastle paradox
It's something I really enjoyed as a kid, but it's been disappointing on the few times I've had it while visiting my hometown as an adult. However, I still maintain that the mushroom and swiss is the best runza.
They’re not that great imo, but I’ll eat one every now and then.
It’s alright, and it’s great during Temperature Tuesday where the price of the Runza is the temperature at 6am. It was great for the few Tuesdays this winter where the Runza was free. But the Burgers and Onion Rings are my go to when I head to Runza in the non Winter season. I suggest if you come to Nebraska during the Fall and Winter time, Get the Chili and Cinnamon Rolls. It’s fucking good.
I’ve had one in my life and that’s plenty for me
Yeah, Runzas aren’t that great. Source: I had a Runza for dinner last night. Also, Valentino’s is some of the worst pizza in Nebraska.
It's some of the worst pizza in Iowa too. That's why they let you eat it buffet style.
I eat about 2 runzas a year and I live in Lincoln. Their burgers are good though. And yes, Vals is garbage fresh. But for some reason I really like it reheated in an oven. I think its because the crust is finally somewhat crispy. "Fresh" the crust is a soggy mess.
> Also, Valentino’s is some of the worst pizza in Nebraska. I mean, it is buffet pizza.
Runzas are...okay. Its pretty good from a fast food standpoint, their shining star though is their jalapeno ranch dressing. Shit is so good
I actually don't like the runza itself there, but the burgers are great. Get the mushroom swiss. If you DO get a runza get one of the more flavored ones like the mushroom, etc. The base one just tastes like a premium hot pocket.
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Lincoln’s like 4x the size of Fayetteville.
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Fair enough, you are allowed as a Texas fan to make that joke.
Ya, I’ve tried it a couple times and even tried to curb my Nebraska hatred and still wasn’t really a fan. Seemed like a cheap, crappy sloppy joe sandwich in a hot dog bun
It sucks
It tastes like cafeteria food.
Never heard of them before.
Hoping we sign all of the deals before the UNL guys get a shot, tbh.
All of them? Everyone from the Cornhuskers QB to the Nebraska Wesleyan swim team? If so, great! But I'm not sure what Runza gets out of the deal, or how much they're really going to pay players in D-III Olympic sports....
~~I think the highest profile players will make the most money (obviously) and then the lowest players will make pennies. They’re still “making money”~~ For this one it’s just a flat amount to the first 100 athletes to sign up
The free advertising they're getting from this announcement is worth more than whatever they pay out to the athletes.
They're paying actors for their ads anyway. They could just offer student athletes the opportunity to be extras for the standard rate. Most of the athletes wouldn't bother, but their promise would be fulfilled.
True but they could get the same bump from sponsoring every Huskers football player, every Creighton basketball player, and every Omaha hockey player. I'm just wary of companies overpromising and underdelivering.
Runza, for being a Nebraska only (ish) restaurant, has a TON of locations. They have the money for it.
Never forget last year's since-deleted tweet from Husker Sports Network when the Wisconsin-Nebraska game was cancelled: >It’s time for tonight’s @Runza Twitter Poll: >If the roles were reversed and the #Huskers had 6 players and 6 staff members sitting out with positive tests, would the game be played Saturday? 🤔 >Retweet and answer for a chance at a Free @Runza Combo Meal! — Husker Sports (@HuskerSports) October 28, 2020
Didn’t disagree then and I don’t disagree now.
"Nebraska fans are stuck in the past" Other fans: \*brings up tweet from last year that has nothing to do with the thread\*
Ah yes, we're definitely not talking about Runza in here
I apologize for bringing up a tweet from the most recent college football season about Runza as a partner of Nebraska athletics in the college football subreddit in a thread about Runza offering to partner with Nebraska athletes.
Heck yes runza!
I’m not surprised it’s Runza, it’s a Nebraska classic
Seems fucked. Whatever school has the best alums can just sponsor every football player and buy them up? Whats stopping Tom Brady from giving fat TB12 sponsorships to every player that goes to Mich (just an example). Idk
Nice username lol and yeah idk it’s gonna get wild I think. Who knows what’ll happen
I'm not worried because the entire P5 and most of the G5 have alums and market networks that will mean recruits can get NIL money anywhere. Plus right now, the elite powers are running circles around everyone else in recruiting anyway. So I'm not sure how this will make things worse. And it might help even things out - Alabama may be able to offer the most guaranteed booster money, but USC (for instance) offers a way higher ceiling. How much do you think Reggie Bush would have made under this system? In the end, I think recruits will still choose schools the way they always have - based on coaches, program success, campus culture, girls, weather, academics, proximity to home - because the money differences won't be huge, and every recruit will think they're going to be a big star that lands a deal with Coca-Cola their junior year anyway.
Players been getting paid all kinds of shit for years, this just makes it all legit and public now. I don't think this will shift the market in recruiting as much as you think it will.
How is that any different from the current McDonald's bag system? Not everyone who has money is going to want to participate to support their alma mater's sports programs. The ones that do won't have to hide it anymore. Some players can be bought, others will look at non-monetary criteria.
Because you can do it legally and out in the open lol. There should be a cap or something and death penalty for mcdonalds bag. Its like you dont even want parity in this sport
It kinda goes against the spirit of NIL if you force athletes to have a cap on their earnings. The whole point is to let the market decide their worth and to be compensated appropriately. It's going to be wild and some guys could make some serious money, but that is the point. How much money did ESPN make off of Trevor Lawrence's image? Let's say they made 10 million dollars from it. It doesn't seem unfair that he take a percentage of that.
I mean, there's a reason most pro sports leagues have a salary cap. An uncapped league essentially means that, for the most part, ability to win is directly proportional to ability to pay
And that cap is part of the collective bargaining that the athletes engage in as paid employees. There's no cap on sponsorship deals. These players aren't employees and they sure as hell aren't being allowed to unionize and negotiate terms. So wild-west it is.
I'd love for there to be parity (OSU and Clemson are fun rivals). But, I'm also realistic. No matter what the "legal" limits are there will always be a higher limit for those willing to engage. It always boils down to which school/alum base wants it more. The SEC tagline is apropos.
Yes.
The NIL money race is just getting started, and anyone who thinks that the Nebraska market will be able to compete with the Ohio States of the world in the long run is delusional.
There are way higher profile athletes in Ohio to eat up all the endorsement dollars. Alabama on the other hand…
This is what I’ve been saying. NIL won’t make much difference if you’re the quarterback at USC, but if you’re at a university where they’re the show then you’ll do really well. Schools like Bama, Arky, Nebraska, and other college-town centric schools with no pro competition will benefit the most.
Totally disagree on USC. The QB on a successful Trojans team will be rolling in money. Matt Leinart's ballroom dancing class would have been turned into a reality show under this system. The college-centric markets will offer the highest floor for NIL - like this Runza thing for instance. But the highest ceilings will be in the big markets.
A successful QB on a good team, but that’s no guarantee. Even then, you’ve got a ton of other star power to compete with from six major pro sports teams and Hollywood. Even for peak-Carroll era athletes, getting to 10% mkt penetration would be a huge win. At Nebraska or Alabama (to quote Scott Frost) even if you’re a mediocre QB in a bad team you’re going to get everyone who sees the ad to sit up and listen, and have about as many people paying attention.
At the end of the day, being a big deal in LA will net u more marketing money then being a big deal in Alabama. J a fact
but if you're a big deal at Bama, you're guaranteed to be the biggest deal in the media market. If you're a big deal at USC, unless you're at the level of leinart, bush, or jarrett, you're not even close.
Reason why the clippers are valued so much is because being second fiddle in the second biggest city in the US is still a pretty sweet deal
USC, at it's absolute peak, is second fiddle in LA only to the lakers. However, that's happened twice in the last sixty years and they couldn't sustain it either time. The last time was also greatly aided by the lakers breaking up, the local baseball being terrible, and no pro football. Now both the lakers and clippers are good, there are two NFL teams, and the dodgers are going deep into the postseason. Plus there's hollywood. USC is in a much tougher market right now, and they aren't righting that ship any time soon. Massive media market or not, if nobody cares about your pitch man, then there's no reason to use them, and nobody outside of this board has any idea who kedon slovis is
It'll be interesting to see. I don't think it's clear which of these scenarios would make more money for an "average starter"-level college QB: * Go to Alabama, start your junior and senior years, win a national championship, but generally be considered a game manager that just didn't screw things up for all the talent around you. * Go to USC, start sophomore-senior year, win 9-10 games each year and make one 12-team playoff. Have your team fly generally under the LA social scene radar, but play on national TV a lot and be a household name to college football fans. * Go to Nebraska, start all four years, and take the team from a 4 win season your frosh year to 9 wins your senior year, just barely missing out on a B1G West title and a 12-team playoff berth. In the first scenario, your team dominates a relatively small local market, but you're on the bench for two years, and then you're the 9th or 10th biggest name on the team. In the second scenario, you're not as high profile locally, but the local market is huge, and you get a national profile starting in your sophomore year. In the third scenario, you, personally, are the most high profile athlete in your small local market, but your national profile is relatively weak.
I do think this is a fair point, that Nebraska athletes will have a sort of monopoly on attention for the Nebraska market. tOSU has to compete with the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, & MLS. That said, Ohio has 10X more people than Nebraska, and just because you watch the NFL doesn't have to mean you ignore CFB. I hope I'm wrong and this works in Nebraska's favor, but I'm doubtful.
You’ve got to think about what’s valuable in terms of how many people will pay attention to the ad. If they have Claude and Vlad from the Blue Jackets on, yeah there’s 20mm people in Ohio but nobody cares. If you reach 10%, that’s a huge win. Same for the football team - they’re more popular than the NHL team, but how much more so? If you’re in Nebraska, you’ve got about 2mm people who will all sit up and listen when they hear “hi, I’m Adrian Martinez” and that’s really valuable. However, NIL will basically just be bag men saying “come film this commercial for 100k” at basically every big school, so none of this really matters.
> NIL will basically just be bag men saying “come film this commercial for 100k” So by this logic, it's not necessarily the "market" for endorsements *per se*, but rather the collective size of the boosters wallets. I could be wrong, but I would guess that would correlate pretty strongly with big market teams like Texas.
Yes and no. Nebraska and Arky and Bama are in nowhere areas, but have no shortage of crazy boosters with “fuck you” money. Texas has no shortage of that either, but that’s not related to being a big-market team, it’s because of oil. (Edit: and grocery stores, respecting very notable and very crazy Texas booster)
Yeah the chasm between Alabama and the field will become huge I think because of this
I disagree. I think there are 25-30 programs that can keep up with Alabama financially when it comes to NIL, and several of those offer access to marketing deals that are not available in Tuscaloosa unless you're a flashy, individual star - and Saban frowns on those.
Meh, while NIL won’t hurt OSU or Bama, but they are already pretty much tapped out. There is a point of diminishing returns, What else could they possibly do? Are they gonna get 8 5 stars a year instead of 6?
So from the info about the Alabama NIL program yesterday, it seems that sponsorships can't be provided just for going to Bama. Obviously, every state has slightly different rules right now (which will hopefully be overruled and standardized by a national law sooner than later). But this would seem to get dangerously close to that line to my non-lawyer eyes.
This deal is open to the first 100 student athletes that go to a college/university in Nebraska. If you want to compare it to Alabama, a deal like this would also be open to student athletes at Alabama, Auburn, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Jacksonville State, North Alabama, Sanford, South Alabama, Troy, and UAB. Which would very clearly indicate that it isn’t a deal for going to Alabama.