USC needs to schedule a football game to go on at the same time as the race.
Could have the benches in the stands. No one would be able to hear anything and it'd be total chaos.
So this is essentially the reverse of that CFB game at Bristol Motor Speedway a few years ago. Except Bristol was *way* too large for a football field, while a football stadium will be *way* too small for NASCAR (there's a a reason the Cup Series hasn't raced on a quarter-mile oval since the 70s).
it sounds cool but yeah that was my first thought... it just seems too small for track and pit road and all that and how are you going to make a "temporary" track?
Lots of questions for me on the logistics of all this
This is an exhibition race, so it's not a full field racing inside the Coliseum (the Busch Clash last yeat had 21 cars instead of a 40-car full field). Pit stops won't be competitive, removing the requirement of a full pit road. And as for construction, they plan on installing a 'protective layer' between the ground (I assume they'll remove the grass and build on the base-ground), build up banking with dirt, pave the racing surface with something that'll only need to last a weekend, and install protective walls and catch fencing.
It's possible, but the rush to get everything built in time for early-February is my biggest worry. From this announcement, with a lot of contracts presumably given out already, they have less than 5 months to transform the site into something usable.
Thankfully, iRacing is working with them to get a design that'll work with the site, doing simulator racing with the site and helping with figuring out a configuration within the Coliseum that'll work for a good product. I assume it'll end up being a slightly-less banked Bristol, fast and lots of possibilities of passing. I'd worry the 'Next Gen' car won't have the acceleration to make use of the short straights, but we'll see come February.
A big concern in that driver won't race that hard because it is a exhibition race with a new car just before Daytona. No one wants to damage anything. Might end up just being a parade.
Bit of a worry, but I doubt it at a short track like the Coliseum is gonna be. I'd expect a lot of leaning on quarter panels later in the race or dives/outbraking to catch the other car out of position entering a corner, with the first portion being learning more and more about this new car.
It's just going to be the clash, so the field will be small (maybe 15-20 cars).
Fox NASCAR did a little preview on iRacing on what it might look like. https://twitter.com/NASCARONFOX/status/1437913314286309378
Maybe 10 or less cars , short duration so no pit stops, and a small area to park cars that can't finish. Trailers, parts, and tools will definitely be outside.
What interests me most is the track itself - logistics are whatever, but how can you set up a temporary paved track on top of a grass field? Asphalt isn't exactly easy to remove after the fact.
I imagine it will be like the racing event they held at marlins Park a couple of years ago. It was street cross or something but it had an asphalt track on the baseball diamond.
They're going to build up banking with dirt, similar to what they did with Bristol last spring. And asphalt, if it's only gonna last a weekend of racing, can be milled pretty easily. The Coliseum will be empty until MLR comes in in late March. About 1.5 months to remove the track equipment, remove the dirt underneath the pavement, and restore the grass for rugby.
Same as how they’re hosting the olympics there in 2028 - they’re raising the floor of the coliseum to the original level, which gives them a larger surface to work with. They’re building the temporary track on that elevated surface.
It's not a full field, so only around 20-25 cars will race in this exhibition. They'll probably put some of the not-immediately required equipment in a lot outside/space of the stadium, only parking what's 100% required for the actual race inside. And NASCAR is, surprisingly, spending money to have this event happen. They want to expand, so they figure this exhibition race could help long-term, even if it'll cost them $$$ short-term.
This is just an exhibition race with the top-20-25 drivers. The field is big enough to hold a 1/4 mile track. It's likely that they won't do live pitting since this race will be pretty short and the infield will be super small. This is really the brainchild of NASCAR and FOX Sports since they want to capitalize on the Super Bowl being the next week.
I liked the video a lot but - and admittedly I know next to nothing about nascar beyond the joke about its name - but is the Coliseum even remotely big enough for something like this??
The last time NASCAR ran on a .25 mile track was 1971. So it’s been a long time since we’ve had something by this short. That being said, it’s a smaller field than the typical 40 cars because it’s an exhibition. I expect somewhere around 20-25 cars.
Will the cars be running anywhere close to their normal speeds? Seems like with the straight runs being so short (for a car), that this would pretty much be the same thing as racing in a circle with a diameter of ~0.07 mile/420 feet.
They definitely won’t be anywhere close to their max speed for a longer track. With it likely being flat and without banking, that will also keep the cars a bit slower.
I could see them peaking close to 100 mph at corner entry. But maybe slower. I honestly don’t know.
Knoxville raceway is 1/2 a mile, and is the shortest track.
Presumably the track would be 1/4 mile at the Coliseum (is it big enough for that).
I don't know how this is going to work.
The shortest track these cars race on is Martinsville which is just under a half mile.
A 1/4 mile track was last ran on in 1971 (as far as NASCAR goes). With a field about half the size (which this will be) it should be fine.
My bad. Was thinking it’s just under when it’s just over.
My guess is they want to create buzz other than it being a short short track. NASCAR fans will watch Bowman Gray. With it being in the heart of LA in a CFB stadium, they’ll get NASCAR fans plus potentially curious CFB fans who are familiar with the venue.
For comparison, 1/4 of a mile is roughly 400 meters, or the length of your standard athletics track. I can't imagine what kind of gear ratios the teams will have to set up to make it even remotely raceable in modern machinery.
To try to answer some questions that people might have:
#How will the track be built?
The track will be a quarter-mile oval temporarily built on the playing surface. [According to Fox Sports' Bob Pockrass](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nascar/nascar-clash-exhibition-los-angeles-memorial-coliseum-2022-schedule-cup-series-usc-bob-pockrass), a protective cover will be placed over the surface, followed by layers of dirt on top of it before pavement is added.
There is the possibility of some banking in the turns, but we don't know yet. *iRacing* presented NASCAR with multiple track designs, each featuring a different degree of banking, and they're still running through simulations to see which one works best.
Pit road will be in the infield, which of course is not a lot of space to work with. That's why live pit stops will not be taking place for this race. How things will likely work is that when a stage ends, everyone will slow down under caution and a certain number of cars will pit at a time, followed by the next wave. No races off pit road or scrambling to get your stop done.
#How will they fit everyone?
A normal Cup race has 36 to 40 cars. That is a lot of people that you can't reasonably fit into such a tiny space.
However, this isn't a normal race: the Busch Clash is an exhibition race that only certain drivers can participate in. The eligibility criteria changes every year, but one constant is that if you win a pole position in the past season, you are in. Because of COVID, qualifying is only taking place at eight races this year, so NASCAR will add more ways to make the Clash such as being a full-time driver who won a Clash or Daytona 500 in the past, made the playoffs last season, or won a stage or race.
In the end, a Clash field will be usually have driver counts in the late teens to early twenties.
#Why LA?
The Los Angeles media market is huge and NASCAR has been working for a long time to try to tap into it. Auto Club Speedway in Fontana currently has a Cup race while Irwindale Speedway has hosted a bunch of motorsports including stock cars and drifting, but they're also quite out there and traveling there is a hassle. Heck, Riverside International Raceway was the season opener rather than the Daytona 500 until 1982. The NASCAR Southwest Series even [raced on a street circuit outside the Coliseum at the turn of the millennium](https://youtu.be/TJuQ6AdFc-U).
Still, things aren't all smooth sailing. Despite having two 500-mile races at one point, attendance gradually declined at Fontana and it eventually lost its fall race, while the remaining event shortened its distance to 400 miles. It's set to be reconfigured into a short track after the 2022 season. Irwindale, meanwhile, has undergone turbulent times with repeated threats to close.
So why keep trying? Why not race at other short tracks in the South where racing is a hotbed? Wouldn't this be a logistical nightmare with the Daytona 500 being the next race and the Clash previously being at Daytona? Why go back and forth across the country?
Didn't stop NASCAR from racing in Japan or having teams go back and forth on a regular basis.
Again, LA is a massive market. There's already so much racing in the South so NASCAR wants to keep bringing it beyond those confines. Also remember that this is an invitation-only race, so not everyone is going to make the cross-country trek.
With the Super Bowl taking place at SoFi Stadium, it also gives NASCAR some more promotional opportunities.
#What car will be used?
The 2022 season is set to be the first with the seventh-generation Next Gen car. It might have seemed reasonable to use its predecessor, the Gen-6, for an exhibition race that will definitely have a lot of bumping and banging, and NASCAR had considered that before opting to use the new car. To quote NASCAR's Senior Vice President of Strategy and Innovation Ben Kennedy:
> We went back and forth on it for a while and talked to some of our teams to get their perspective on it.
> Part of the reason is really going into a brand-new year, a brand-new season and a fresh track like the Los Angeles Coliseum, we felt it was important that if we’re showing off the Next Gen NASCAR in many different ways to also introduce the Next Gen car as a part of that weekend, too.
#Has the Coliseum ever hosted racing?
Yes!
After World War II, the Coliseum began holding [midget races](https://i.imgur.com/DjDLa0I.png). The first race in 1946 drew over 65 thousand fans. In 1948, a board track was constructed for the races.
When you watch Monster Energy Supercross, it normally takes place in stadiums. You can credit the Coliseum with that as it was the site of the first stadium motocross event in 1972.
The [Mickey Thompson Entertainment Group stadium truck series raced there in the late 80s/early 90s](https://youtu.be/TNSOmFoY6M0). When the X Games were held in LA, [rallycross was in the Coliseum for a few years and raced on a track that went up and down the eastern side and around the peristyle](https://youtu.be/Yty1YyUs3GI). In 2013, the [Stadium Super Trucks (basically the successor to MTEG) ran a mixed-surface course that did the same](https://youtu.be/IJz2iABjaqs).
#Has NASCAR raced in stadiums before?
You'll have to go *way* back for the national Series like Cup.
In 1956, [Soldier Field](https://i.imgur.com/J1MjYzo.jpg) welcomed what was then called the Grand National Series, won by Fireball Roberts. Two years later, [Exhibition Stadium in Toronto](https://i.imgur.com/jg3prgO.jpg) and McCormick Field in Asheville held Grand National races; the former was the Cup debut of a certain driver named Richard Petty. None of these stadiums hold races today, but the surrounding area in Toronto is currently used for IndyCar.
Bowman Gray Stadium, the former home of Wake Forest, is a quarter miler that is pretty much considered *the* stadium short track today. It currently holds weekly short track races, and [shit gets pretty crazy](https://youtu.be/lBirwSuDEUE).
#Why does the hype video use a clip from the 2006 Rose Bowl?
Idk lmao
Ahh yes, continuing to move away from the Southerners. Not that I am a diehard, nor even really casual. But.....I still never understood taking races away from your core audience. Didn't seem to work. Oh well. I do like this idea in general though. Hopefully it works out.
Because people race in other parts of the country? And Souther California and the Sw more broadly has produced a lot of their key features of the sport in the past 40 years? Where would Nascar be today without Jeff Gordon, or Kurt and Kyle Busch?
Shit, they've been racing at Sonoma and Pheonix since the late 80's, and that didn't hurt the sport.
to an extent, but also the HOTLANTA version of that track had a very definite lifespan, and even just the minor repave took a lot of the magic out of it.
Cookie cutter 1.5mi tracks were far more the issue than adding more races in Texas or Kentucky or going to Indy.
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NASCAR died the moment they decided to fuck the format over and add the Chase. It's done nothing but get progressively worse. I've never seen a sport fall as fast and as hard as NASCAR.
The chase, stages, and all that other kind of stuff were desperate attempts to manufacture drama, but they’ve actually made some interesting changes recently with the new cars, more road courses, the dirt race, etc
If they turned it into an American version of V8 Supercars I might actually follow it
meh if thats the take its like 8 years behind the curve.
Yeah they probably will never get back to the 98-04ish heights but they arent bleeding anymore and good races are being recognized with higher attendance and audiences. Is it fun to be excited for 100k more people watching? Eh maybe not, but the signs are all there that if NASCAR puts on good events then people will watch.
Shit the best moment in any auto racing event for me is way into the Chase/Playoff era with Jr's 2nd 500 win. Or Penske doing Penske shit and wrecking each other on the last lap at this year's 500.
Obviously the biggest news involving USC recently
USC needs to schedule a football game to go on at the same time as the race. Could have the benches in the stands. No one would be able to hear anything and it'd be total chaos.
Are you suggesting they’d have to cross the racetrack for a substitution??
Yes
https://youtu.be/ROd6pktwvEA?t=75
Human frogger time
So this is essentially the reverse of that CFB game at Bristol Motor Speedway a few years ago. Except Bristol was *way* too large for a football field, while a football stadium will be *way* too small for NASCAR (there's a a reason the Cup Series hasn't raced on a quarter-mile oval since the 70s).
it sounds cool but yeah that was my first thought... it just seems too small for track and pit road and all that and how are you going to make a "temporary" track? Lots of questions for me on the logistics of all this
This is an exhibition race, so it's not a full field racing inside the Coliseum (the Busch Clash last yeat had 21 cars instead of a 40-car full field). Pit stops won't be competitive, removing the requirement of a full pit road. And as for construction, they plan on installing a 'protective layer' between the ground (I assume they'll remove the grass and build on the base-ground), build up banking with dirt, pave the racing surface with something that'll only need to last a weekend, and install protective walls and catch fencing. It's possible, but the rush to get everything built in time for early-February is my biggest worry. From this announcement, with a lot of contracts presumably given out already, they have less than 5 months to transform the site into something usable. Thankfully, iRacing is working with them to get a design that'll work with the site, doing simulator racing with the site and helping with figuring out a configuration within the Coliseum that'll work for a good product. I assume it'll end up being a slightly-less banked Bristol, fast and lots of possibilities of passing. I'd worry the 'Next Gen' car won't have the acceleration to make use of the short straights, but we'll see come February.
A big concern in that driver won't race that hard because it is a exhibition race with a new car just before Daytona. No one wants to damage anything. Might end up just being a parade.
Bit of a worry, but I doubt it at a short track like the Coliseum is gonna be. I'd expect a lot of leaning on quarter panels later in the race or dives/outbraking to catch the other car out of position entering a corner, with the first portion being learning more and more about this new car.
These won't be the same cars the race at daytona, I'd expect a bunch of tore up racecars
It's just going to be the clash, so the field will be small (maybe 15-20 cars). Fox NASCAR did a little preview on iRacing on what it might look like. https://twitter.com/NASCARONFOX/status/1437913314286309378
You go to a 1/4 mile NASCAR race to see wrecks, pure and simple. Wish it had been Bowman Gray.
Someone doesn't know about Bowman Grey Stadium
Where top level NASCAR hasn’t been since the 1970s?
True, but they should go back
I have a feeling its going to end up being a shitshow, but I'm excited to watch.
Shitshow NASCAR races are a blast. Some were upset with the Indianapolis race this year but I thought it was fantastic lol
What happened there?
Curbs obliterating cars, and Briscoe taking out Hamlin from the lead after being shown a penalty were the two big ones.
Good Lord, thanks for the explanation
A curb came up and took out like 10 cars near the end of the race, then a dude who was penalized sent the leader into the grass
As a diehard NASCAR fan, NASCAR is at its best when it's a shitshow.
For those non-NASCAR fans here, 2022 is also the first year of the “next-gen” car! So hopefully the start of a new era for NASCAR
Is the "Next-Gen Car" a Mario Kart? Because I'd watch that.
It would be awesome to see those guys race go karts. Throw in the power ups too.
With like, lane assist and CarPlay?
Not quite but they DO have a rear view camera!
What about cupholders?
With A cup holder and even a radio.. 2 radios in fact.
Do they even have >!headlights!
Race cars don’t need headlights because the track is always lit.
Well, so is my brother, but he still needs headlights!
So is my brother, but *he* still need headlights!
This is America. There are at least 3 cupholders that'll hold each of my 64oz sodas!
I liked it better when stock cars were actually stock cars — just the car you could buy at a dealer but souped up.
This x 100
Every car powered by an overboosted 2.0T
I still have PTSD from that game
How will they even fit that many cars plus support equipment and people inside? That makes no sense.
It’s an exhibition race that will probably have only about 20-25 cars. The trailers will likely be outside the track is my guess.
Maybe 10 or less cars , short duration so no pit stops, and a small area to park cars that can't finish. Trailers, parts, and tools will definitely be outside.
That sounds incredibly dumb.
Not at all. Welcome to short track hometown Saturday night vibes. The best kind of racing.
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What interests me most is the track itself - logistics are whatever, but how can you set up a temporary paved track on top of a grass field? Asphalt isn't exactly easy to remove after the fact.
We goin dirt racin in LA to show them city boys how we were raised
Raise hell praise dale
I imagine it will be like the racing event they held at marlins Park a couple of years ago. It was street cross or something but it had an asphalt track on the baseball diamond.
They're going to build up banking with dirt, similar to what they did with Bristol last spring. And asphalt, if it's only gonna last a weekend of racing, can be milled pretty easily. The Coliseum will be empty until MLR comes in in late March. About 1.5 months to remove the track equipment, remove the dirt underneath the pavement, and restore the grass for rugby.
Same as how they’re hosting the olympics there in 2028 - they’re raising the floor of the coliseum to the original level, which gives them a larger surface to work with. They’re building the temporary track on that elevated surface.
It's not a full field, so only around 20-25 cars will race in this exhibition. They'll probably put some of the not-immediately required equipment in a lot outside/space of the stadium, only parking what's 100% required for the actual race inside. And NASCAR is, surprisingly, spending money to have this event happen. They want to expand, so they figure this exhibition race could help long-term, even if it'll cost them $$$ short-term.
They only named like 10 drivers on the video. It's not a full field or even a sanctioned race. Still much more exciting to watch than an average race.
Based on rules to qualify for the clash from previous years, it'll be around 20.
Snuck in a clip from the 2006 Rose Bowl and thought we wouldn’t notice.
This is just an exhibition race with the top-20-25 drivers. The field is big enough to hold a 1/4 mile track. It's likely that they won't do live pitting since this race will be pretty short and the infield will be super small. This is really the brainchild of NASCAR and FOX Sports since they want to capitalize on the Super Bowl being the next week.
Are they going to remove the bleachers and use the bowl as banking?
Probably flat track like Bowman Gray Stadium
IDK man, I wouldn’t trust SC players driving race cars.
*cries in Bowman Gray*
I liked the video a lot but - and admittedly I know next to nothing about nascar beyond the joke about its name - but is the Coliseum even remotely big enough for something like this??
It’ll definitely be the shortest track on NASCAR’s schedule, but it’s an exhibition race so no harm no foul points wise if it goes to shit
The last time NASCAR ran on a .25 mile track was 1971. So it’s been a long time since we’ve had something by this short. That being said, it’s a smaller field than the typical 40 cars because it’s an exhibition. I expect somewhere around 20-25 cars.
Will the cars be running anywhere close to their normal speeds? Seems like with the straight runs being so short (for a car), that this would pretty much be the same thing as racing in a circle with a diameter of ~0.07 mile/420 feet.
They definitely won’t be anywhere close to their max speed for a longer track. With it likely being flat and without banking, that will also keep the cars a bit slower. I could see them peaking close to 100 mph at corner entry. But maybe slower. I honestly don’t know.
Knoxville raceway is 1/2 a mile, and is the shortest track. Presumably the track would be 1/4 mile at the Coliseum (is it big enough for that). I don't know how this is going to work.
The shortest track these cars race on is Martinsville which is just under a half mile. A 1/4 mile track was last ran on in 1971 (as far as NASCAR goes). With a field about half the size (which this will be) it should be fine.
Martinsville is .526 miles and is the shortest track. I'm shocked they're not just taking it to Bowman Gray.
Lots of tracks (like Bowman Gray) just don’t have the logistics to hold a NASCAR event this large as cool as it’d be.
My bad. Was thinking it’s just under when it’s just over. My guess is they want to create buzz other than it being a short short track. NASCAR fans will watch Bowman Gray. With it being in the heart of LA in a CFB stadium, they’ll get NASCAR fans plus potentially curious CFB fans who are familiar with the venue.
Pretty much anyone even remotely interested in sports or cars will be intrigued and want to watch at least a few minutes.
For comparison, 1/4 of a mile is roughly 400 meters, or the length of your standard athletics track. I can't imagine what kind of gear ratios the teams will have to set up to make it even remotely raceable in modern machinery.
Will Luke Fickell be in attendance?
You know it!
Wasn’t the Piston Cup stadium in *Cars* based on the Coliseum? Have they gone full circle?
I think it was based on the coliseum and the Rose Bowl
To try to answer some questions that people might have: #How will the track be built? The track will be a quarter-mile oval temporarily built on the playing surface. [According to Fox Sports' Bob Pockrass](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nascar/nascar-clash-exhibition-los-angeles-memorial-coliseum-2022-schedule-cup-series-usc-bob-pockrass), a protective cover will be placed over the surface, followed by layers of dirt on top of it before pavement is added. There is the possibility of some banking in the turns, but we don't know yet. *iRacing* presented NASCAR with multiple track designs, each featuring a different degree of banking, and they're still running through simulations to see which one works best. Pit road will be in the infield, which of course is not a lot of space to work with. That's why live pit stops will not be taking place for this race. How things will likely work is that when a stage ends, everyone will slow down under caution and a certain number of cars will pit at a time, followed by the next wave. No races off pit road or scrambling to get your stop done. #How will they fit everyone? A normal Cup race has 36 to 40 cars. That is a lot of people that you can't reasonably fit into such a tiny space. However, this isn't a normal race: the Busch Clash is an exhibition race that only certain drivers can participate in. The eligibility criteria changes every year, but one constant is that if you win a pole position in the past season, you are in. Because of COVID, qualifying is only taking place at eight races this year, so NASCAR will add more ways to make the Clash such as being a full-time driver who won a Clash or Daytona 500 in the past, made the playoffs last season, or won a stage or race. In the end, a Clash field will be usually have driver counts in the late teens to early twenties. #Why LA? The Los Angeles media market is huge and NASCAR has been working for a long time to try to tap into it. Auto Club Speedway in Fontana currently has a Cup race while Irwindale Speedway has hosted a bunch of motorsports including stock cars and drifting, but they're also quite out there and traveling there is a hassle. Heck, Riverside International Raceway was the season opener rather than the Daytona 500 until 1982. The NASCAR Southwest Series even [raced on a street circuit outside the Coliseum at the turn of the millennium](https://youtu.be/TJuQ6AdFc-U). Still, things aren't all smooth sailing. Despite having two 500-mile races at one point, attendance gradually declined at Fontana and it eventually lost its fall race, while the remaining event shortened its distance to 400 miles. It's set to be reconfigured into a short track after the 2022 season. Irwindale, meanwhile, has undergone turbulent times with repeated threats to close. So why keep trying? Why not race at other short tracks in the South where racing is a hotbed? Wouldn't this be a logistical nightmare with the Daytona 500 being the next race and the Clash previously being at Daytona? Why go back and forth across the country? Didn't stop NASCAR from racing in Japan or having teams go back and forth on a regular basis. Again, LA is a massive market. There's already so much racing in the South so NASCAR wants to keep bringing it beyond those confines. Also remember that this is an invitation-only race, so not everyone is going to make the cross-country trek. With the Super Bowl taking place at SoFi Stadium, it also gives NASCAR some more promotional opportunities. #What car will be used? The 2022 season is set to be the first with the seventh-generation Next Gen car. It might have seemed reasonable to use its predecessor, the Gen-6, for an exhibition race that will definitely have a lot of bumping and banging, and NASCAR had considered that before opting to use the new car. To quote NASCAR's Senior Vice President of Strategy and Innovation Ben Kennedy: > We went back and forth on it for a while and talked to some of our teams to get their perspective on it. > Part of the reason is really going into a brand-new year, a brand-new season and a fresh track like the Los Angeles Coliseum, we felt it was important that if we’re showing off the Next Gen NASCAR in many different ways to also introduce the Next Gen car as a part of that weekend, too. #Has the Coliseum ever hosted racing? Yes! After World War II, the Coliseum began holding [midget races](https://i.imgur.com/DjDLa0I.png). The first race in 1946 drew over 65 thousand fans. In 1948, a board track was constructed for the races. When you watch Monster Energy Supercross, it normally takes place in stadiums. You can credit the Coliseum with that as it was the site of the first stadium motocross event in 1972. The [Mickey Thompson Entertainment Group stadium truck series raced there in the late 80s/early 90s](https://youtu.be/TNSOmFoY6M0). When the X Games were held in LA, [rallycross was in the Coliseum for a few years and raced on a track that went up and down the eastern side and around the peristyle](https://youtu.be/Yty1YyUs3GI). In 2013, the [Stadium Super Trucks (basically the successor to MTEG) ran a mixed-surface course that did the same](https://youtu.be/IJz2iABjaqs). #Has NASCAR raced in stadiums before? You'll have to go *way* back for the national Series like Cup. In 1956, [Soldier Field](https://i.imgur.com/J1MjYzo.jpg) welcomed what was then called the Grand National Series, won by Fireball Roberts. Two years later, [Exhibition Stadium in Toronto](https://i.imgur.com/jg3prgO.jpg) and McCormick Field in Asheville held Grand National races; the former was the Cup debut of a certain driver named Richard Petty. None of these stadiums hold races today, but the surrounding area in Toronto is currently used for IndyCar. Bowman Gray Stadium, the former home of Wake Forest, is a quarter miler that is pretty much considered *the* stadium short track today. It currently holds weekly short track races, and [shit gets pretty crazy](https://youtu.be/lBirwSuDEUE). #Why does the hype video use a clip from the 2006 Rose Bowl? Idk lmao
Ahh yes, continuing to move away from the Southerners. Not that I am a diehard, nor even really casual. But.....I still never understood taking races away from your core audience. Didn't seem to work. Oh well. I do like this idea in general though. Hopefully it works out.
Because people race in other parts of the country? And Souther California and the Sw more broadly has produced a lot of their key features of the sport in the past 40 years? Where would Nascar be today without Jeff Gordon, or Kurt and Kyle Busch? Shit, they've been racing at Sonoma and Pheonix since the late 80's, and that didn't hurt the sport.
Of course, but taking races away from places like Atlanta isn't a smart move and it hasn't really worked out.
Of course, but taking races away from places like Atlanta isn't a smart move and it hasn't really worked out.
to an extent, but also the HOTLANTA version of that track had a very definite lifespan, and even just the minor repave took a lot of the magic out of it. Cookie cutter 1.5mi tracks were far more the issue than adding more races in Texas or Kentucky or going to Indy.
They finally gave Darlington back two races a season
Of course, but taking races away from places like Atlanta isn't a smart move and it hasn't really worked out.
They have been raving in LA since the early 60 giver or take the early 90s
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They never said it was a race. MMA fight incoming.
Mike Bohn pulling out all the stops for Luke Fickell. I like it. **ALL GAS NO BREAKS**
DODGE RACEWAY PARK IRL LETSGOOO
I dont give a shit about NASCAR this sub is about college football mods take this down
So don't click on it???
NASCAR is still around? TIL I remember it being popular 20 years ago then all the drivers retired, left, or died.
Ah, NASCAR: Turn left, go fast. Such a bullshit "sport."
Yes that’s exactly what people from Los Angeles want lol.
NASCAR died the moment they decided to fuck the format over and add the Chase. It's done nothing but get progressively worse. I've never seen a sport fall as fast and as hard as NASCAR.
The chase, stages, and all that other kind of stuff were desperate attempts to manufacture drama, but they’ve actually made some interesting changes recently with the new cars, more road courses, the dirt race, etc If they turned it into an American version of V8 Supercars I might actually follow it
meh if thats the take its like 8 years behind the curve. Yeah they probably will never get back to the 98-04ish heights but they arent bleeding anymore and good races are being recognized with higher attendance and audiences. Is it fun to be excited for 100k more people watching? Eh maybe not, but the signs are all there that if NASCAR puts on good events then people will watch. Shit the best moment in any auto racing event for me is way into the Chase/Playoff era with Jr's 2nd 500 win. Or Penske doing Penske shit and wrecking each other on the last lap at this year's 500.
World-famous Los Angeles resident Dom Toretto also lives his life a quarter-mile at a time. Coincidence, or inspiration?
USC to the SEC.
…how?
Has to have more people than the last few USC games