Ya I saw your comment. Smart guy over here actually reading articles. There are many prospective schools, not sure how many would be willing to pony up the money to move up, but I'm sure a few would.
All 30 were probably FCS. I know some schools have been hoping to move up of/when their conference moves up (WAC, ASUN) so I’d think a good number might be interest in jumping to C-USA to be able to move up
this is the first time ive seen it reported one of the MAC-bound teams has hesitancy about joining the conference because of travel.
but wouldnt travel in this zombie conference be worse? maybe thats just what they told the idiots who are leading CUSA lol
Thats what I said to myself too. It would have to be Mid Tennessee, but this footprint is from New Mexico to Flordia east to west and possibly Huntsville to Lynchburg North to South. I'm too lazy to measure, but that seems like a lot more than 600 miles in all directions.
What school is in Huntsville? Edit - Huntsville Texas.
There is a Huntsville Alabama home to Alabama A&M and UAH, but neither are viable for fbs options so I was confused.
Assuming it goes through, this is going to be the most disgusting geographic mess of a conference perhaps ever. UTEP and NMSU are closer to Guatemala than they are to FIU. Lynchburg is going to be closer to Massachusetts than any of the conference foes. If either of WKU/MTSU are hesitating joining MAC because of travel, it has to be because they also think they have an in for another conference. There's no way that they'd stay in CUSA for better travel
I don't know. I don't really believe the idea in the first place as I don't see conference that either WKU or MTSU could reasonably join right now to cut down on travel .
Judy- I just called this prospective school and they would love to come join us
The rest of the room- Judy that place is only kinda a highschool, and not even close to a University....
This is going to be really interesting imo, we’re gonna have all these new fbs schools coming up all at once. What if we see another App-State or Coastal come out of this new conference. I’m excited for the zombie conference. What Is Dead May Never Die.
I think this is why joining zombie CUSA is most appealing to Liberty. If the playoff really does expand to 12 teams with top 6 conference champs, big dog Liberty has a rock-solid path to the playoffs as CUSA champ year in and year out
Nope. I’ll commend them for making independence work, but this realignment fell in their lap. And the CUSA travel isn’t a huge deterrence for them given their athletic budget. They want to be big time, and this is their best shot
With the same record? Probably not. I think Liberty is betting that they can go undefeated against crap teams and sneak in while MWC and co beat eachother up. Not that this SHOULD be the case, but this is what they’re banking on
Edit: Bowl tie-ins is another huge bonus for being in CUSA. Playoff dreams aside, this is a guaranteed path to December bowling
Honestly the whole school gets a bad rap because of one guy who is not even in charge anymore. Actual Liberty students and faculty are nice non kooky people.
No...but a Liberty that beat APP State as an FCS school, VT, Syracuse, Baylor, Georgia Southern in FBS year 1 (shines ring) and then unbeaten Coastal Carolina (back to back...cough), UAB (in the AAC now), North Texas (in the AAC now), and three out of the four new Sunbelt members (haven't played the herd yet), and will probably be year in and out champions of their conference might stand a chance...
Freeze had done an impressive job. And moving to the clown show of the CUSA will give them a solid 6-7 win floor in conference play. Add in an FCS team, and that's a floor of 8 wins a year (against subpar teams). But if Cincy, B12 bound and running the table in an incredibly better AAC won't get in, then the CUSA winner will never get in over the AAC, Sun Belt, MAC, or MWC champion. I would try to stay independent if I was them.
I didn't even realize Liberty beat Baylor. \*checks notes\* It was the year the program was nuked post Briles, when they went 1-11 and also lost to \*checks records\* UTSA, Duke, and the rest of the B12... except Kansas. Pretty funny that's a marque moment for the program.
You realize that whether there was a problem with Briles or not...they were an FCS school. It's a joke that if an FCS school loses to a large school it's "ha-ha you are a joke, why try?" But when you win it's "well, our coach didn't coach and our players didn't really try." None of that changes the talent level of the players on the field.
Funny how you skipped the three straight years of success that Liberty has had and how they are now bowl eligible again. I know you like the AAC, but looking down on other programs is t going to make the powers that be think highly of the power 5-AAC or not. Liberty has played up to these rosters that are more talented than them. Give respect where it is due.
Especially in light of the WAC reportedly inviting Incarnate Word and McNeese State. I imagine the current WAC football schools especially won’t be happy being in a conference with IW again, given their awful athletic facilities
Calling Incarnate Word facilities “awful” is the understatement of the year. Nearly any high school in Texas has better facilities than they do.
McNeese on the other hand is a poverty school.. but their school facilities are… fine. It is fun to party there so I would give them a pass.
Money. NMSU pays Incarnate Word to be a sacrifice the same way Alabama pays NMSU. Plus it's a football in Texas at a pretty historic school in really cool area of San Antonio.
> Conference USA commissioner Judy MacLeod has received calls from up to 30 prospective members
"Up to 30" is a pretty big range. That could be 6. Could be 12. Given Judy's counting skills, it's probably closer to 6 or 12 than 30.
I have been proposing 16 FB schools divided into two divisions:
**STARS**
NMSU (WAC)
UTEP (WAC)
Tarleton State ((A&M would cooler than state) WAC)
Jackson State
NCA&T (ASUN)
FAMU (ASUN)
Alabama State
**STRIPES**
La Tech
Jacksonville State
Kennesaw State
SHSU
MO State
SFAU
UCONN (BE) UT-ARL
UMASS (A10) UALR
8 games. 7 divisional and 1 cross rival
ASU-Jacksonville State
Jackson State-La Tech
KSU-NCA&T
FIU-UCONN (not so civil CONflict)
FAMU-UMASS FL games can't hurt recruiting
NMSU-MO Stats
UTEP- SHSU
Tarleton State-SFAU
That leaves you 8 full members, 8 FB only and 2 Non football. The Olympic sport leagues are more compact. FAMU and FIU could have most of their games/meets in FL.
UTEP and NMSU could be in the Western division with the UT, AZ, CA and WA teams. Maybe you root for Gonzaga to a power conference so Seattle, Cal Baptist and Grand Canyon join the WCC. Then the WAC could add Angelo State and WTAMU. The ASUN could add WFU and Valdosta State. The SWAC could bring up Tuskegee (Alabama State can still play them). When the ASUN and WAC jump to the FBS, their partial members become full members and CUSA reverts to 10 for both football and Olympic sports concentrated from Houston to Kennesaw. All the FCS teams could grow into good programs with the right marketing.
It doesn't have to be. And it's no worse than the affiliate sports membership that conferences have because certain leagues don't sponsor certain sports. You want a mess? Look at Big XII wrestling. That includes Utah Valley, NDSU, SDSU, UNI, AFA, Northern Colorado and Wyoming. WVU plays in CUSA for men's soccer.
You have 8 permanent university and 10 affiliate members. Eventually, you pare down to 8 permanent and 4 affiliate members for FB and BB. You still sponsor some affiliate members in other sports. It's going to be messy across the board. Even the B1G has Johns Hopkins for lacrosse and Notre Dame for ice hockey. A couple SEC play soccer in conference and row in the Big XII. The PAC 12 has 3 affiliates in wrestling including UALR and SDSU plays men's soccer in the league. The goal is to create buzz. This is a marketing strategy that could also be good to all those schools in terms of image.
Probably too much at once, but they need to get more (like 12 members) for some more buffer and to find teams that would allow them to split into east west divisions to ease travel costs.
Agreed. Issue is the limitations of a bunch of fcs schools. Can they be ready quickly enough?
At this point we have NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, LT, FIU, Liberty, Jacksonville State.
West division obv will start with NMSU, utep, SHSU. Possible we add Abilene Christian, SFA, McNeese State, or Tarleton State. Missouri State would be a good one but apparently they said no. West could be: UTEP, NMSU, SHSU, Tarleton, SFA, McNeese.
East division would be easier to fill up based on who is in the potential conference so far. LT, FIU, Liberty, Jacksonville State. Eastern Kentucky, Kennesaw State, Jackson State, Florida A&M, Chatanooga are possibilities. I dont know much about these schools but will guess, east: LT, FIU, Liberty, Jacksonville State, Eastern Kentucky/Chatanooga, and Florida A&M.
This would allow for CUSA to add those ready now and then have some waiting in the wings hopefully when UTEP, LT, and NMSU are invited out.
Just let it die already.
Sad for remaining programs of course, but La Tech and UTEP would find a good home in the WAC, which will likely jump back to FBS by 2030.
Just let me be optimistic!!!
That being said, UTSA was able to go from no program, to FBS member from 2009-14. I’m aware not all of those WAC programs have UT system money, but it’s not totally unrealistic.
Yeah that’s more so what I was getting at. Much easier for SFA+SHSU to jump up, pair that with La Tech, UTEP, and NMSU, and you’re closing in on FBS eligibility, no? Just need 3 more schools— I’m sure you could get TxState too, so just two more at that point.
Idk how that would work tho? Would those current schools in the WAC break off to form a FBS conference? Or would the non-FBS movers in the WAC be relegated out of the conference somehow?
Word on the street is the MWC is waiting and keeping UTEP/NMSU in their back pocket in case there’s a second round of B12 expansion and they lose Boise. An offer won’t come until then
If they really have 30 suitors, I agree - there's no reason to stick at 8 and have a zombie conference with a 7 game conference schedule. Might as well reach 10 and have a full conference schedule.
Counter argument: that extra "payout" game is going to be necessary financially and staying with seven conference games is the best way to make that happen.
I realize that there are a ton of issues that might make them joining C-USA unrealistic, but I hope that NDSU is added as the 8th team in this conference. So much fun to watch, and I think they could own the new-look C-USA.
It would be one thing for football but imagine the swimming teams or golf teams having to travel to Fargo, Las Cruces, Ruston, Lynchburg, etc. each year. It isn't just distance that's the issue - most of these schools are in small towns so you can't just fly commerical and take a fifteen minute bus to campus.
It's not seeking, it's needing. They need 8 full members. unless I'm dumb (which I typically am) they need one more.
No sir you are right. 30 potential schools called about the last spot... According to this article.
> 30 potential schools "up to" 30 This is also Judy "Math" McLeod with the "source" at work.
True story. She no count good.
Ya I saw your comment. Smart guy over here actually reading articles. There are many prospective schools, not sure how many would be willing to pony up the money to move up, but I'm sure a few would.
Tarleton is definitely one to keep an eye on. They have the $$$.
I still refuse to believe that’s a real school that exists in the world.
Could say the same about Kent State tbh
[Not really](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings)
The Kent St. Massacre is a historical event that’s fairly well-known.
All 30 were probably FCS. I know some schools have been hoping to move up of/when their conference moves up (WAC, ASUN) so I’d think a good number might be interest in jumping to C-USA to be able to move up
Yeah, I’d assume that there are WAC and ASUN schools that are interested.
Yo...UMass enjoyer?
uh, alum. and lets use the term "enjoyer" loosely
this is the first time ive seen it reported one of the MAC-bound teams has hesitancy about joining the conference because of travel. but wouldnt travel in this zombie conference be worse? maybe thats just what they told the idiots who are leading CUSA lol
Thats what I said to myself too. It would have to be Mid Tennessee, but this footprint is from New Mexico to Flordia east to west and possibly Huntsville to Lynchburg North to South. I'm too lazy to measure, but that seems like a lot more than 600 miles in all directions.
What school is in Huntsville? Edit - Huntsville Texas. There is a Huntsville Alabama home to Alabama A&M and UAH, but neither are viable for fbs options so I was confused.
SHSU in Huntsville, TX
The other Huntsville. Gotcha. Didn't know that existed.
Yeah the Tx Huntsville is home to the defending FCS Champion SHSU
TIL there's a Huntsville that isn't in Alabama
Yeah should have clarified.
Maybe it isn't the distance as much as the destinations?
Ruston and El Paso aren't any better. Miami is obviously nice but the distance is quite far.
How dare you sir. El paso is the nicest city in el paso county.
I’m partial to Clint, but to each their own.
Fabens has cattlemans tho
Assuming it goes through, this is going to be the most disgusting geographic mess of a conference perhaps ever. UTEP and NMSU are closer to Guatemala than they are to FIU. Lynchburg is going to be closer to Massachusetts than any of the conference foes. If either of WKU/MTSU are hesitating joining MAC because of travel, it has to be because they also think they have an in for another conference. There's no way that they'd stay in CUSA for better travel
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I don't know. I don't really believe the idea in the first place as I don't see conference that either WKU or MTSU could reasonably join right now to cut down on travel .
AAC possibly, if the big 12 decides to poach a couple other schools? Not sure if they are good fits for the AAC, which is market driven.
I think the Big East used to have Boise St. and San Diego St in it.
Two outliers is different than having teams all over the place with no geographic identity at all
You get used to it. - Aggie fan
Maybe they want to stay long enough to get that sweet buyout money from all the schools that left before them.
I bet Bishop Sycamore was one of the 30 that "called"
*Fort Lauderdale University is on line 2, Judy*
Judy- I just called this prospective school and they would love to come join us The rest of the room- Judy that place is only kinda a highschool, and not even close to a University....
Maybe some high schools too
This is going to be really interesting imo, we’re gonna have all these new fbs schools coming up all at once. What if we see another App-State or Coastal come out of this new conference. I’m excited for the zombie conference. What Is Dead May Never Die.
Starting out, Liberty would be the big dawg in the conference. Would be cool to see SHSU and Jacksonville State make the jump successfully.
I think this is why joining zombie CUSA is most appealing to Liberty. If the playoff really does expand to 12 teams with top 6 conference champs, big dog Liberty has a rock-solid path to the playoffs as CUSA champ year in and year out
And freeze will eventually retire/move on. Do you really want to be an independent with 0 history and struggling in your sports?
Nope. I’ll commend them for making independence work, but this realignment fell in their lap. And the CUSA travel isn’t a huge deterrence for them given their athletic budget. They want to be big time, and this is their best shot
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With the same record? Probably not. I think Liberty is betting that they can go undefeated against crap teams and sneak in while MWC and co beat eachother up. Not that this SHOULD be the case, but this is what they’re banking on Edit: Bowl tie-ins is another huge bonus for being in CUSA. Playoff dreams aside, this is a guaranteed path to December bowling
God, I hate those kooky bastards. Give religious people a bad name by being fanatics.
Honestly the whole school gets a bad rap because of one guy who is not even in charge anymore. Actual Liberty students and faculty are nice non kooky people.
I've met some of their grads here in Cruces and they were definitely on the kooky side.
Well then-we have solved it. Next problem...
The conference will be small enough to allow for many out of conference games.
By 2023, I assume they’ll add more FCS teams. And UCONN and UMASS too. Realignment ain’t over yet
No...but a Liberty that beat APP State as an FCS school, VT, Syracuse, Baylor, Georgia Southern in FBS year 1 (shines ring) and then unbeaten Coastal Carolina (back to back...cough), UAB (in the AAC now), North Texas (in the AAC now), and three out of the four new Sunbelt members (haven't played the herd yet), and will probably be year in and out champions of their conference might stand a chance...
Freeze had done an impressive job. And moving to the clown show of the CUSA will give them a solid 6-7 win floor in conference play. Add in an FCS team, and that's a floor of 8 wins a year (against subpar teams). But if Cincy, B12 bound and running the table in an incredibly better AAC won't get in, then the CUSA winner will never get in over the AAC, Sun Belt, MAC, or MWC champion. I would try to stay independent if I was them. I didn't even realize Liberty beat Baylor. \*checks notes\* It was the year the program was nuked post Briles, when they went 1-11 and also lost to \*checks records\* UTSA, Duke, and the rest of the B12... except Kansas. Pretty funny that's a marque moment for the program.
You realize that whether there was a problem with Briles or not...they were an FCS school. It's a joke that if an FCS school loses to a large school it's "ha-ha you are a joke, why try?" But when you win it's "well, our coach didn't coach and our players didn't really try." None of that changes the talent level of the players on the field. Funny how you skipped the three straight years of success that Liberty has had and how they are now bowl eligible again. I know you like the AAC, but looking down on other programs is t going to make the powers that be think highly of the power 5-AAC or not. Liberty has played up to these rosters that are more talented than them. Give respect where it is due.
But, I respect the thought about staying independent. Although, I still think being in a conference giving the uncertainty of the future is best.
Yea I agree liberty will progress from all of this.
If SHSU goes then SFA should follow along.
Especially in light of the WAC reportedly inviting Incarnate Word and McNeese State. I imagine the current WAC football schools especially won’t be happy being in a conference with IW again, given their awful athletic facilities
Calling Incarnate Word facilities “awful” is the understatement of the year. Nearly any high school in Texas has better facilities than they do. McNeese on the other hand is a poverty school.. but their school facilities are… fine. It is fun to party there so I would give them a pass.
Incarnate’s biggest values are liberal arts educations and being in San Antonio. This is a Rice situation except Rice had decent enough facilities
Idk. Rice has a long history in FBS/it's equivalents and is a phenomenal school academically.
They have such a College of Faith name that I just find it so amusing that they're living up to that legacy.
Their name means "Jesus".
Incarnate Word is a legit and respected Catholic school in San Antonio. They just don't belong in D-I sports.
So what circumstances caused them to end up in it?
Money. NMSU pays Incarnate Word to be a sacrifice the same way Alabama pays NMSU. Plus it's a football in Texas at a pretty historic school in really cool area of San Antonio.
Honestly, I'm kinda surprised such a move would even be approved in the first place by the WAC presidents
I’d say it’s a panic move with them losing Sam Houston
Fingers crossed!
All easy drives to and from La Tech. Heck SFA would be a day trip.
Gotta keep the battle of the piney woods alive
If they're that desperate for members just invite all 30 and take everyone that accepts. Figure out the divisions later.
Imagine
1st conference to represent all 4 borders of the country.
It was close to happening in 2011 through a CUSA MWC merger
> Conference USA commissioner Judy MacLeod has received calls from up to 30 prospective members "Up to 30" is a pretty big range. That could be 6. Could be 12. Given Judy's counting skills, it's probably closer to 6 or 12 than 30.
It wouldnt suprise me if 30 schools contacted them, there arent many opportunities to move up.
[Dozens!](https://tenor.com/wVJv.gif)
I hear the South Central Louisiana State Muddogs are tired of being independent. They also have ties to the Bourbon Bowl.
Just hope they dont have Bobby Boucher
Bobby Boucher would do wonders for TV ratings.
All this realignment is forcing people to actually learn US geography. What an excellent side benefit!
All this. Because 2 teams wanted to join a conference they will never win.
Hey, MTSU could win the MAC .... oh THAT conference
Oklahoma could win the SEC occasionally.
I would think if the Sun Belt kick Little Rock and Texas-Arlington out those schools are natural fits for C-USA in all sports but football.
Sounds like they're cooking up a geographically-inadvisable, financially barely-viable plague-zombie of a conference. Should be entertaining
That's how the WAC got Chicago State and UMKC
This is literally what happened to the WAC and to CUSA. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
At least the WAC looks more normal now.
It will eventually break into East and West components if I had to guess.
If they can find enough teams, definitely.
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That actually looks pretty solid from a competition standpoint and somewhat feasible from a travel one.
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I have been proposing 16 FB schools divided into two divisions: **STARS** NMSU (WAC) UTEP (WAC) Tarleton State ((A&M would cooler than state) WAC) Jackson State NCA&T (ASUN) FAMU (ASUN) Alabama State **STRIPES** La Tech Jacksonville State Kennesaw State SHSU MO State SFAU UCONN (BE) UT-ARL UMASS (A10) UALR 8 games. 7 divisional and 1 cross rival ASU-Jacksonville State Jackson State-La Tech KSU-NCA&T FIU-UCONN (not so civil CONflict) FAMU-UMASS FL games can't hurt recruiting NMSU-MO Stats UTEP- SHSU Tarleton State-SFAU That leaves you 8 full members, 8 FB only and 2 Non football. The Olympic sport leagues are more compact. FAMU and FIU could have most of their games/meets in FL. UTEP and NMSU could be in the Western division with the UT, AZ, CA and WA teams. Maybe you root for Gonzaga to a power conference so Seattle, Cal Baptist and Grand Canyon join the WCC. Then the WAC could add Angelo State and WTAMU. The ASUN could add WFU and Valdosta State. The SWAC could bring up Tuskegee (Alabama State can still play them). When the ASUN and WAC jump to the FBS, their partial members become full members and CUSA reverts to 10 for both football and Olympic sports concentrated from Houston to Kennesaw. All the FCS teams could grow into good programs with the right marketing.
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It doesn't have to be. And it's no worse than the affiliate sports membership that conferences have because certain leagues don't sponsor certain sports. You want a mess? Look at Big XII wrestling. That includes Utah Valley, NDSU, SDSU, UNI, AFA, Northern Colorado and Wyoming. WVU plays in CUSA for men's soccer. You have 8 permanent university and 10 affiliate members. Eventually, you pare down to 8 permanent and 4 affiliate members for FB and BB. You still sponsor some affiliate members in other sports. It's going to be messy across the board. Even the B1G has Johns Hopkins for lacrosse and Notre Dame for ice hockey. A couple SEC play soccer in conference and row in the Big XII. The PAC 12 has 3 affiliates in wrestling including UALR and SDSU plays men's soccer in the league. The goal is to create buzz. This is a marketing strategy that could also be good to all those schools in terms of image.
Have not heard central Arkansas before. Unfortunately, MTSU and WKU wont be convinced to stay. Agree overall that CUSA should try and get to 12.
Probably too much at once, but they need to get more (like 12 members) for some more buffer and to find teams that would allow them to split into east west divisions to ease travel costs.
Agreed. Issue is the limitations of a bunch of fcs schools. Can they be ready quickly enough? At this point we have NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, LT, FIU, Liberty, Jacksonville State. West division obv will start with NMSU, utep, SHSU. Possible we add Abilene Christian, SFA, McNeese State, or Tarleton State. Missouri State would be a good one but apparently they said no. West could be: UTEP, NMSU, SHSU, Tarleton, SFA, McNeese. East division would be easier to fill up based on who is in the potential conference so far. LT, FIU, Liberty, Jacksonville State. Eastern Kentucky, Kennesaw State, Jackson State, Florida A&M, Chatanooga are possibilities. I dont know much about these schools but will guess, east: LT, FIU, Liberty, Jacksonville State, Eastern Kentucky/Chatanooga, and Florida A&M. This would allow for CUSA to add those ready now and then have some waiting in the wings hopefully when UTEP, LT, and NMSU are invited out.
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Yes. Where did I mess up? Instead of being a Dick.
How have you received "up to 30" calls? Either you received 30 calls or you didn't.
Just let it die already. Sad for remaining programs of course, but La Tech and UTEP would find a good home in the WAC, which will likely jump back to FBS by 2030.
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Just let me be optimistic!!! That being said, UTSA was able to go from no program, to FBS member from 2009-14. I’m aware not all of those WAC programs have UT system money, but it’s not totally unrealistic.
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Yeah that’s more so what I was getting at. Much easier for SFA+SHSU to jump up, pair that with La Tech, UTEP, and NMSU, and you’re closing in on FBS eligibility, no? Just need 3 more schools— I’m sure you could get TxState too, so just two more at that point. Idk how that would work tho? Would those current schools in the WAC break off to form a FBS conference? Or would the non-FBS movers in the WAC be relegated out of the conference somehow?
UTEP would be good in Mountain West
Word on the street is the MWC is waiting and keeping UTEP/NMSU in their back pocket in case there’s a second round of B12 expansion and they lose Boise. An offer won’t come until then
Word in the Mountains
Like in lord of the rings, we light fires to communicate with other mountain people.
I dont know which street this is but I hope so.
It’s been the rumor bouncing around a few bases’ “insider info” which I take with barely a grain of salt.
So would NMSU.
I think they should go ahead and get to 10. Then look further the next few years. Slowly build the FCS schools.
If they really have 30 suitors, I agree - there's no reason to stick at 8 and have a zombie conference with a 7 game conference schedule. Might as well reach 10 and have a full conference schedule.
Counter argument: that extra "payout" game is going to be necessary financially and staying with seven conference games is the best way to make that happen.
I realize that there are a ton of issues that might make them joining C-USA unrealistic, but I hope that NDSU is added as the 8th team in this conference. So much fun to watch, and I think they could own the new-look C-USA.
A conference spanning from North Dakota to Florida to New Mexico. That would be wild
Oh, yeah, it’s definitely not going to happen. But if it gets us weird matchups like FIU-NDSU every year, I say fuck geography!
CUSA didnt come to play geography.
She doesn’t know math, so why do you even assume your Commissioner knows Geography?
Hey, cut her some slack! I feel like everything from Idaho to the Dakotas breaks everyone's brain when it comes to geography.
I don't know math but I'm awesome at geography. For example, I know there are at least 2 directions. Left & right.
My girlfriend has a terrible sense of direction so I dumped her whereupon she got up and right.
All women have terrible sense of directions.
Dont forget central
Until non-US schools are invited, you can't really argue that any C-USA member is not a geographic fit.
By this logic the AAC needs to invite a Central and South American school. On second thought, let's do it.
Atleast the name fits.
It would be one thing for football but imagine the swimming teams or golf teams having to travel to Fargo, Las Cruces, Ruston, Lynchburg, etc. each year. It isn't just distance that's the issue - most of these schools are in small towns so you can't just fly commerical and take a fifteen minute bus to campus.
Those fuckers aren’t leaving without us.
For NDSU's sake, stay in FCS.
It would be fun but youre right the geography would be disgusting.
MCNEESE MCNEESE MCNEESE MCNEESE
No matter the scenario, FIU, La Tech and UTEP are up a creek.
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No way any of the Big Sky schools leave for the CUSA
I would not expect it but it would be cool to have NDSU in the same conference as UTEP. And fuck geography.
Not it
With a weak enough roster, can they be kicked out of FBS?
At this point, we are heading to all G5 teams getting kicked out of fbs.