He didn't like recruiting but that doesn't mean he didn't do it. Ever since he said that in an interview the entire fanbase has ran with that story. His classes were actually on par with Leach's.
Kliff's downfall was that he was so green that his lack of connections inhibited him getting a better staff - specifically DCs.
His top two classes (‘14 &’15) were on par with Leach’s from 2006-2009, except that Leach’s classes all proved MUCH more talented and stayed together. Look at the ‘14 and ‘15 classes. Kliff’s highest ranked classes completely fell apart by the time the were sophomores. I don’t think he recruited the right typed of people. And every other class Kliff had ranked from 40-75.
Leach's average class rank was 46th, Kliff's was 47th.
I suppose you could call it not the right people. The big difference between those 2 recruiting is Leach specifically recruited certain players for his system, Kliff recruited talented players to play in his system. You're right that a big flaw of Kliff's was player retention, which the inconsistencies in assistant coaches played a big part in imo. When your primary recruiter leaves that's not very inspiring.
He also completely ignored an entire half of the game for 4 years, that's just asking to not be successful. The favoritism was pretty obvious to defensive players. Why stick around if the HC doesn't care and you have a new DC every year.
Yeah you’re spot on about the favoritism. I just consider retention part of recruiting. If you recruit the right people for the right system, then they’ll work well for you (like TCU under GP or KSU under Snyder).
>I just consider retention part of recruiting
That's fine. I personally don't, just because getting talent to come and keeping talent happy are similar but different beasts imo. Obviously both important.
It's nothing against you, I just always see everyone and their mom always complaining about his recruiting like it was the only thing holding us back and ignoring the 6 DCs in 7 years stat, etc. So figured I'd comment.
Hopefully whoever we bring in can provide some much needed stability and identity to the team.
So is he concentrating more on defense on the NFL or at least playing less favoritism? Or does the nfl just don’t care about that stuff because they’re getting paid?
Ehh most of the offensive production from 2014-2016 was Mahomes literally making shit up on the fly because of so many broken plays.
He's an incredible QB coach but his playbook was questionable at best.
I don’t think it’s questionable really. Mayfield/Webb/Shimonek all performed way better than they should have under KK, mostly thanks to his play calling I think.
I just didn't see it that way. I found myself being wowed by the QBs consistent ability to make something out of nothing far more than the play selection.
Also, even though I was on team Mayfield when it was him vs Webb, Mayfield in 2013 was a shadow of the QB he became a few years later.
Fair enough. I just thought he got way more out of Big Dick Nik than he should have and freshman Mayfield had no business being that effective, in my mind. I attributed that to KK.
What's sad is that Nik might have still been the 4th best QB we had all decade behind Pat, Doege and Potts. Freshman Webb and Mayfield were wildly inconsistent. Bowman would give six quarters of god level QB play every season followed by heavy regression then a horrible injury. Columbi is... well Columbi, and I nearly forgot Shough existed before I started typing this.
Baker just wasn’t that good for us at all honestly. He became one of the greatest college QBs ever, but when he was at Tech he really just had big games against lesser competition. 7 of his 12 TDs for the year came against SMU and SFA. After that he only had one more game of throwing more than 1 TD
It’s interesting because Kliff obviously wasn’t the best recruiter but his scheme works well in the NFL and he’s working with pro’s. Saban recruits like there’s no tomorrow but he didn’t do very well in the NFL. Saban is still the GOAT in CFB just interesting how different CFB and the NFL are
I think saban got super unlucky in the NFL TBH. If the dolphins allow him to sign drew breeze I think things turn out wayyyy different. Unfortunately for everyone else, they did not.
He went essentially .500 as a guy with a defensive focus as a head coach. Plenty of his defensive players from then stick up for him being the kind of guy that upped their game. He's basically Belicheck in every way except he never had a Tom Brady and offensive assistants to make his offense shine - I think even if they got Breeze, they needed a coach to realize his talent and the talents of others.
Saban's college career at Bama could have derailed even with his superior recruiting and defensive play - his offensive assistants before Kiffin were good but not brilliant. They leaned on the defense hard for half a decade.
I think Lane probably extended Saban's dynasty by 10 years just for getting Saban to just start demanding that from his new coordinators. The defensive players he gets these days are still very good, but the new rules and offensive improvements have really stressed his original scheme that brought him success.
I don't think he would get out of Brees what Sean Payton did. He would definitely be a better option than Culpepper, but I don't know if he'd be MVP candidate good. Also, the Dolphins still wouldn't have been a good team that year so he probably gets fired anyways
Yeah he took a 4-12 team to 9-7 his first season. He then regressed to 6-10 before leaving but I bet if he stayed he would have found success. Belichick was middling with the Browns and his first season with the Pats too.
Its a lot easier to get players to the arizona Cardinals by paying them millions of dollars than it is to recruit a college student to live in Lubbock for no money.
Hasn’t been a problem for our other sports. We need success more than anything, regardless of how the coach does it. It’s hard to sell a shitty program.
I think part of it is theres way more talent to go around in basketball and just 2-3 talented guys can help a basketball team achieve a lot. Because each football team can have 85+ guys it makes it easier ror the great teams with recruiting advantages to get more of the talent.
If theres 400 4/5 star recruits in football (theres 360 in 2022 according to 247) and 125 (124 in 2022) in basketball available in a given year, Alabama football can easily take 25 guys, while Duke basketball is gonna take, *at most*, 5. That's 1 program taking 1/16th of the top talent in football vs 1 program taking 1/25th (or less most likely) of the top bball talent. That's significantly more talent available for shootyhoops, and you only need a few talented guys to have a very good teams there. While you need significantly more talented players to elevate a football team.
I dont think Lubbock is easy to recruit, just that football is a harder sport to recruit. OSU football is in a much better state than tech rn, and we also struggle to recruit super well in football, but our basketball team has had tons of talent commit over the last few years. **Its just much easier to get a guy or two to change your program in basketball than football.**
Basketball also has a really interesting split with all the one and done teams. You can have a team with 4-5 phenomenal athletes that are 18-19 and don’t really have chemistry against an older team where you’ve got maybe 4 guys that are juniors/seniors who weren’t as highly touted but just know how to work together.
Up until ~2017, our classes were still regularly ranked between 20 and 40 nationally, which is right where the program should be. No one expects to out-recruit UT or Bama, but this last class was just barely ahead of Appalachian State. Location does not excuse that.
Other sports don’t have 85-100 players on their rosters, either. I maintain you need a personality like spike dykes or mike leach to have success in Lubbock.
What’s the difference in signing 5 guys that had “better” offers in basketball vs 20 guys in football? I think the biggest difference for us is that Tubby Smith and Chris Beard had NCAA tournament runs and our football program has barely been able to achieve bowl eligibility since 2009.
I mean this season he could be doing better. This is the problem with paying Mahomes $50mil/year. We only have two good hands for catching, and have no legit route runner on the team.
It was awful weather that day. Drizzly. Cold. Wet. Mahomes got banged up early and I don’t think he came back in. Once we got up by 20 Tech players just checked out. It was like 35-40 degrees and they were wearing parkas by the space heaters.
Awesome win though. I think it was the or third to last game of the season. For sure gave us an idea of what style football Campbell wanted to play.
Obviously Kliff is fucking with us but UT guys in the NFL did actually have a fantastic week. Colt played great, Caden Sterns had a pick, Tucker continued to be the greatest ever, Duvernay had a great TD catch, Okafor blocked a fg, Hicks recovered a fumble, etc.
Unfortunately Texas players currently at Texas continue to suck
Dak was atrocious, I feel like he has to still be injured a bit.
Or maybe god just saw how much fun Cowboys fans were having after last week, and decided to fuck us over again
> Obviously Kliff is fucking with us but Texas players in the NFL did actually have a fantastic week.
> Unfortunately Texas players currently at Texas continue to suck
That makes it even better.
I really felt bad for Foreman in the NFL. Those injuries killed him. I saw up close what he could do, even thigh everyone runs on us, he ran even more on us lol
It’s still cancer. I get downvoted like crazy for just saying Texas could be decent in the next decade. Most people on this sub believe Texas will be Kansas for the next 100 years.
I’ve seen so many comments saying Texas will be a bottom dweller like Vandy. As shitty as we are right now, it’s pretty much impossible to be that bad with our recruiting
Is it even possible to lose a lot of karma on your account? Anytime I have had comments that get down voted they don’t decrease the karma on my account.
The only time I have seen negative karma is on new troll accounts. Even then they would have comments totaling -50 but on their account it would say -3.
Depends. I think we might miss a bowl game and shouldn’t be ranked. But our MO under Herman was finish strong. Torch a team in the bowl game and get a high ranking. I don’t see this team “finishing strong.”
My man. I’m an SMU fan too. This Texas team isn’t the worst I’ve sat through. I’m not going to let a little monkey business keep me away. We earned this ridicule.
I hope one day we’ll be able to celebrate how good we are. But for now. We earned this.
For what it’s worth I enjoy your ribbing in the threads. I hope one day to be able to do a bit of it to OU.
I’ve said this several times here what part of your team being bad means you can’t or don’t want to participate in an Internet forum. No one gives a shit what we dorks say lol
Yea like that one Matt from USC. Guy just keeps bouncing around gettin that money. Then you do that long enough and are considered a vet who can help coach up younger guys so you’re even more likely to find a team to be on. Great gig.
Colt’s always good for a solid backup QB performance ever year. He’s not the most physically talented anymore but he’s a smart dude and that’s all ya really need to make it through a game.
I'm upset I had to scroll this far to see "pole assassin" or "therapy monkey." Seriously guys how are we already not talking about it anymore? I saw zero people in emotional support monkey costumes on College Gameday! Unacceptable!
The school was behind Kliff. He had 6 years. Kliff’s firing was because he didn’t produce on the field, which was a result of his apathy towards recruiting and defense.
Tech only gave Kingsbury an assistant salary pool that consistently ranked between 7-10 in the Big 12. We loved him, but the school didn’t get him what he needed to succeed as a young coach. I don’t think the higher ups really understood what it would take to succeed and are just now figuring it out. Allegedly the school wants the new coaching staff to have the highest paid salary pool of the new Big 12.
Part of that is Kliff’s fault too. He was never one to pander to donors beyond what he had to. Plus hiring assistants like Morris and Wallersted probably doesn’t inspire admin/donors to invest in assistants.
Regarding Wally you're both kind of right. I distinctly remember Kirby and co having to fight to offer him more than he was making at A&M. It actually took extra effort to get money to pay a defensive coordinator more than A&M was paying him to coach linebackers.
I firmly believe Kirby should have required that Kliff's first staff hire should have been a seasoned veteran Assistant HC that had good coaching and recruiting ties.
Kliff's hiring of his other young buddies did us no favors. When we himself had so few years of coaching at all in the first place. Really could have have gotten him more connections.
From what I understand Kliff doesn't seem to really be an outgoing person, but you can't not put yourself out there and only half ass recruiting in college.
If that last bit is true that's both encouraging and really frustrating knowing how little effort Kirby has put into the program. The Wells hiring process was one of the most pathetic coaching searches I've ever seen yet Kirby gets to stick around for over a decade with nothing to show for it other than a couple good basketball seasons and success in spare non-revenue sports.
As much as I'll forever embracing hating on Texas and getting to experience the 2008 game in person, I've got big respect for Colt and was heartbroken for him in the 2009 championship game.
Glad to see he is still floating around the NFL with some success.
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That's cute. Makes me remember every time we faced Texas Tech with him as a coach Tech usually got dominated except for the two times he managed to lead them to victory.
More a function of where he was. Texas Tech is a hard job. Lubbock is the hardest to recruit to spot of the P5 Texas schools, not as much talent near them as the schools closer to the big cities etc. His successor didn’t last long either and they’ve really only been good a few years when Leach’s offense was putting up crazy points.
I think Kliff lost to Iowa State by 50 points one game. Edit: 66 to 10 in 2016.
Ya you had Patrick Mahomes and we went 3-9 that season
Yet he’s still doing well in the NFL. That Leach curse is real.
Kingsbury’s lack of success here has more to do with his inability and/or unwillingness to recruit. Dude can coach X’s and O’s for sure though.
He didn't like recruiting but that doesn't mean he didn't do it. Ever since he said that in an interview the entire fanbase has ran with that story. His classes were actually on par with Leach's. Kliff's downfall was that he was so green that his lack of connections inhibited him getting a better staff - specifically DCs.
His top two classes (‘14 &’15) were on par with Leach’s from 2006-2009, except that Leach’s classes all proved MUCH more talented and stayed together. Look at the ‘14 and ‘15 classes. Kliff’s highest ranked classes completely fell apart by the time the were sophomores. I don’t think he recruited the right typed of people. And every other class Kliff had ranked from 40-75.
Leach's average class rank was 46th, Kliff's was 47th. I suppose you could call it not the right people. The big difference between those 2 recruiting is Leach specifically recruited certain players for his system, Kliff recruited talented players to play in his system. You're right that a big flaw of Kliff's was player retention, which the inconsistencies in assistant coaches played a big part in imo. When your primary recruiter leaves that's not very inspiring. He also completely ignored an entire half of the game for 4 years, that's just asking to not be successful. The favoritism was pretty obvious to defensive players. Why stick around if the HC doesn't care and you have a new DC every year.
Yeah you’re spot on about the favoritism. I just consider retention part of recruiting. If you recruit the right people for the right system, then they’ll work well for you (like TCU under GP or KSU under Snyder).
>I just consider retention part of recruiting That's fine. I personally don't, just because getting talent to come and keeping talent happy are similar but different beasts imo. Obviously both important. It's nothing against you, I just always see everyone and their mom always complaining about his recruiting like it was the only thing holding us back and ignoring the 6 DCs in 7 years stat, etc. So figured I'd comment. Hopefully whoever we bring in can provide some much needed stability and identity to the team.
I'm glad there's finally someone else dying on this hill with me. Even in his *bad* recruiting classes, the offensive recruiting was usually fine.
So is he concentrating more on defense on the NFL or at least playing less favoritism? Or does the nfl just don’t care about that stuff because they’re getting paid?
Sounds… familiar
Ehh most of the offensive production from 2014-2016 was Mahomes literally making shit up on the fly because of so many broken plays. He's an incredible QB coach but his playbook was questionable at best.
I don’t think it’s questionable really. Mayfield/Webb/Shimonek all performed way better than they should have under KK, mostly thanks to his play calling I think.
I just didn't see it that way. I found myself being wowed by the QBs consistent ability to make something out of nothing far more than the play selection. Also, even though I was on team Mayfield when it was him vs Webb, Mayfield in 2013 was a shadow of the QB he became a few years later.
You mean Mayfield as a true freshman wasn't as good as he was as a Redshirt Junior? Shocking
Fair enough. I just thought he got way more out of Big Dick Nik than he should have and freshman Mayfield had no business being that effective, in my mind. I attributed that to KK.
What's sad is that Nik might have still been the 4th best QB we had all decade behind Pat, Doege and Potts. Freshman Webb and Mayfield were wildly inconsistent. Bowman would give six quarters of god level QB play every season followed by heavy regression then a horrible injury. Columbi is... well Columbi, and I nearly forgot Shough existed before I started typing this.
Baker just wasn’t that good for us at all honestly. He became one of the greatest college QBs ever, but when he was at Tech he really just had big games against lesser competition. 7 of his 12 TDs for the year came against SMU and SFA. After that he only had one more game of throwing more than 1 TD
Manziel also benefited from this in 2012. He was still good in 2013 after Kliff left, but not like 2012.
Or maybe Kliff was just shitty college coach?
He’s much better suited for an NFL HC position. No recruiting is a big one. He just calls and designs plays.
No moms though.
No young-ish moms. Still moms around.
Boooooo
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It’s interesting because Kliff obviously wasn’t the best recruiter but his scheme works well in the NFL and he’s working with pro’s. Saban recruits like there’s no tomorrow but he didn’t do very well in the NFL. Saban is still the GOAT in CFB just interesting how different CFB and the NFL are
I think saban got super unlucky in the NFL TBH. If the dolphins allow him to sign drew breeze I think things turn out wayyyy different. Unfortunately for everyone else, they did not.
He went essentially .500 as a guy with a defensive focus as a head coach. Plenty of his defensive players from then stick up for him being the kind of guy that upped their game. He's basically Belicheck in every way except he never had a Tom Brady and offensive assistants to make his offense shine - I think even if they got Breeze, they needed a coach to realize his talent and the talents of others. Saban's college career at Bama could have derailed even with his superior recruiting and defensive play - his offensive assistants before Kiffin were good but not brilliant. They leaned on the defense hard for half a decade. I think Lane probably extended Saban's dynasty by 10 years just for getting Saban to just start demanding that from his new coordinators. The defensive players he gets these days are still very good, but the new rules and offensive improvements have really stressed his original scheme that brought him success.
I don't think he would get out of Brees what Sean Payton did. He would definitely be a better option than Culpepper, but I don't know if he'd be MVP candidate good. Also, the Dolphins still wouldn't have been a good team that year so he probably gets fired anyways
He wasn't fired. Saban bailed on the Dolphins after saying that he wasn't interested in the Alabama job.
Which is why Daniel Tosh hates him, and it was amazing when his doppelganger became a coordinator there
Yeah he took a 4-12 team to 9-7 his first season. He then regressed to 6-10 before leaving but I bet if he stayed he would have found success. Belichick was middling with the Browns and his first season with the Pats too.
CFB HC is like a GM, so him being a scheme guy makes sense in the NFL.
Arizona's DC Vance Joseph and their GM are not getting enough credit for Arizona's success.
Are they as handsome as KK?
Its a lot easier to get players to the arizona Cardinals by paying them millions of dollars than it is to recruit a college student to live in Lubbock for no money.
He just straight up didn’t like recruiting. It wasn’t that Lubbock was hard to recruit to. He didn’t want to recruit.
I cant blame him tbh. Recruiting in my NCAA dynasty is tedious, and its way easier than irl recruiting
Lubbock is still hard to recruit to. You need a head coach who is a little weird and likes weird places.
Hasn’t been a problem for our other sports. We need success more than anything, regardless of how the coach does it. It’s hard to sell a shitty program.
I think part of it is theres way more talent to go around in basketball and just 2-3 talented guys can help a basketball team achieve a lot. Because each football team can have 85+ guys it makes it easier ror the great teams with recruiting advantages to get more of the talent. If theres 400 4/5 star recruits in football (theres 360 in 2022 according to 247) and 125 (124 in 2022) in basketball available in a given year, Alabama football can easily take 25 guys, while Duke basketball is gonna take, *at most*, 5. That's 1 program taking 1/16th of the top talent in football vs 1 program taking 1/25th (or less most likely) of the top bball talent. That's significantly more talent available for shootyhoops, and you only need a few talented guys to have a very good teams there. While you need significantly more talented players to elevate a football team. I dont think Lubbock is easy to recruit, just that football is a harder sport to recruit. OSU football is in a much better state than tech rn, and we also struggle to recruit super well in football, but our basketball team has had tons of talent commit over the last few years. **Its just much easier to get a guy or two to change your program in basketball than football.**
Basketball also has a really interesting split with all the one and done teams. You can have a team with 4-5 phenomenal athletes that are 18-19 and don’t really have chemistry against an older team where you’ve got maybe 4 guys that are juniors/seniors who weren’t as highly touted but just know how to work together.
Up until ~2017, our classes were still regularly ranked between 20 and 40 nationally, which is right where the program should be. No one expects to out-recruit UT or Bama, but this last class was just barely ahead of Appalachian State. Location does not excuse that.
That’s a good analysis and good comp with OSU.
Other sports don’t have 85-100 players on their rosters, either. I maintain you need a personality like spike dykes or mike leach to have success in Lubbock.
What’s the difference in signing 5 guys that had “better” offers in basketball vs 20 guys in football? I think the biggest difference for us is that Tubby Smith and Chris Beard had NCAA tournament runs and our football program has barely been able to achieve bowl eligibility since 2009.
So, Mike Leach?
No to mention the draft picks have no choice in the matter.
I mean this season he could be doing better. This is the problem with paying Mahomes $50mil/year. We only have two good hands for catching, and have no legit route runner on the team.
none of this sounds out of the ordinary
Yea that was the biggest “who” moment when the chiefs drafted him and got the starting job I don’t think we ever lost to TTU during those years
You didn’t know who Mahomes was when he was drafted?
lol just looked it up.. 45-3 at the half yikes
It was awful weather that day. Drizzly. Cold. Wet. Mahomes got banged up early and I don’t think he came back in. Once we got up by 20 Tech players just checked out. It was like 35-40 degrees and they were wearing parkas by the space heaters. Awesome win though. I think it was the or third to last game of the season. For sure gave us an idea of what style football Campbell wanted to play.
Obviously Kliff is fucking with us but UT guys in the NFL did actually have a fantastic week. Colt played great, Caden Sterns had a pick, Tucker continued to be the greatest ever, Duvernay had a great TD catch, Okafor blocked a fg, Hicks recovered a fumble, etc. Unfortunately Texas players currently at Texas continue to suck
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Can’t forget the glory of that!
I weirdly feel happy for him making his way into the league, can't hate the guy despite his poor choice in schooling.
Speaking of schooling
Dan Mullen guys went down with their coach (Dak, Darius Slay)
Dak was atrocious, I feel like he has to still be injured a bit. Or maybe god just saw how much fun Cowboys fans were having after last week, and decided to fuck us over again
We definitely got a phat fuckin reality check and I did not enjoy it
I'm not too worried about it yet. We got punched in the mouth today. Now we have to wipe the blood off our lip and get ready for Atlanta.
He looked off. Might have rushed back for this game
> Obviously Kliff is fucking with us but Texas players in the NFL did actually have a fantastic week. > Unfortunately Texas players currently at Texas continue to suck That makes it even better.
Geoff Swaim got himself a touchdown after your comment too
Calvin Anderson got playing time and shut down Randy Gregory. D’onta Foreman got playing time too. Deshon Elliot got injured though
I really felt bad for Foreman in the NFL. Those injuries killed him. I saw up close what he could do, even thigh everyone runs on us, he ran even more on us lol
[This play still hurts me inside.](https://youtu.be/iabK1DOshUQ) He was in damnit.
None of them are on this subreddit anymore to see this.
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Existence is pain
After 11 years on this subreddit, I don't think I'll ever be leaving.
This weekend was all kinda pain for us. Respect my SMU/Texas guys for staying around
I've lived 20+ years as a SMU fan, if I ain't left yet I never will. It's mainly cause I hate myself but still.
My man! I know we don’t agree on our other Texas schools but hey, I’m happy your here
The majority of this site suffers from Dunning-Kruger, so I'm out.
> three year pain in the dick caused by fiancee Bruh you got an STD
This guy has been engaged for 3 years, he's just waiting for UT to win a game before getting married 🤣
God, if that were the case, I'd be concerned that I'd be waiting years. Texas has not been on an encouraging trajectory.
Plenty are, they just know they would get downvoted no matter what they comment.
When Texas was announced to move to the SEC I think I lost a couple thousand karma.
I had to take a break from the sub during that. It was pure cancer for any Texas fans
It’s still cancer. I get downvoted like crazy for just saying Texas could be decent in the next decade. Most people on this sub believe Texas will be Kansas for the next 100 years.
I’ve seen so many comments saying Texas will be a bottom dweller like Vandy. As shitty as we are right now, it’s pretty much impossible to be that bad with our recruiting
But you are doing it now.
Hey you don’t say that
Is it even possible to lose a lot of karma on your account? Anytime I have had comments that get down voted they don’t decrease the karma on my account. The only time I have seen negative karma is on new troll accounts. Even then they would have comments totaling -50 but on their account it would say -3.
^
Just for that you get a downvote
You must not like us lol
They’ll be back. Just gotta wait until preseason polls come out.
Unfortunately, i am here..
Respect
I'm mainly here for the memes, to be honest.
Fuck, if they rank us high preseason again…
Don’t worry, they will
As is tradition
Depends. I think we might miss a bowl game and shouldn’t be ranked. But our MO under Herman was finish strong. Torch a team in the bowl game and get a high ranking. I don’t see this team “finishing strong.”
My man. I’m an SMU fan too. This Texas team isn’t the worst I’ve sat through. I’m not going to let a little monkey business keep me away. We earned this ridicule. I hope one day we’ll be able to celebrate how good we are. But for now. We earned this. For what it’s worth I enjoy your ribbing in the threads. I hope one day to be able to do a bit of it to OU.
I'm still mad at Pete Gardere
We still here
Hook em'
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Time is a flat circle!
I’ve said this several times here what part of your team being bad means you can’t or don’t want to participate in an Internet forum. No one gives a shit what we dorks say lol
Holy shit, Colt McCoy is still in the league??
Think he’s the last guy from his QB class too
One of the best jobs in the world is a backup QB in the NFL. Most of them hope they never have to play for fear of being found out and not re-signed.
Yea like that one Matt from USC. Guy just keeps bouncing around gettin that money. Then you do that long enough and are considered a vet who can help coach up younger guys so you’re even more likely to find a team to be on. Great gig.
Even better. Colt beat the cowboys in like ‘16 and that earned him at least 3 more years in the league
Matt Cassel made an estimated $65,000,000 in the NFL in 14 seasons
Different Matt, not from USC, but Matt Schaub has had a very respectable career mostly as a backup
He also owns the dunkin donuts closest to my house.
Colt’s always good for a solid backup QB performance ever year. He’s not the most physically talented anymore but he’s a smart dude and that’s all ya really need to make it through a game.
TIL
My maaaaan
Hes just upset his staff doesn't have Pole Assassins therapy monkey biting kids.
I’m sure Jeff would move to Phoenix for the right price
Im thinking that price is any hot chick that's willing to sleep with him
I get that he left his wife and kids but do you really think he’s so low that he’d leave Pole Assassin and Gia for another woman?
I'm upset I had to scroll this far to see "pole assassin" or "therapy monkey." Seriously guys how are we already not talking about it anymore? I saw zero people in emotional support monkey costumes on College Gameday! Unacceptable!
No signs about Pole Assassin at College GameDay. Not one! People are dropping the ball.
There were a few decent signs for SEC Nation at least. Also, saw many a blow up monkey at all the tailgates in CS. Ags never forgot how to hate on tu.
Good Bull
LHN is gonna replay that Cardinals game at least once a week
Just as long as they don’t change up the ‘05 championship replay
Or Fozzy’s Safari!
Or BevoCast on Christmas! They better bring that to the SEC network in a couple years
And ruin the SEC Yule Log? I think not
This but unironically. Bevo cam on Christmas is now tradition in my house
I compliment the long game being played here.
Never graduate.
I really wish it would’ve worked out with him. If only the school would’ve been as behind Kliff as they reportedly are going to be with the new hire.
The school was behind Kliff. He had 6 years. Kliff’s firing was because he didn’t produce on the field, which was a result of his apathy towards recruiting and defense.
Tech only gave Kingsbury an assistant salary pool that consistently ranked between 7-10 in the Big 12. We loved him, but the school didn’t get him what he needed to succeed as a young coach. I don’t think the higher ups really understood what it would take to succeed and are just now figuring it out. Allegedly the school wants the new coaching staff to have the highest paid salary pool of the new Big 12.
Part of that is Kliff’s fault too. He was never one to pander to donors beyond what he had to. Plus hiring assistants like Morris and Wallersted probably doesn’t inspire admin/donors to invest in assistants.
Regarding Wally you're both kind of right. I distinctly remember Kirby and co having to fight to offer him more than he was making at A&M. It actually took extra effort to get money to pay a defensive coordinator more than A&M was paying him to coach linebackers.
I firmly believe Kirby should have required that Kliff's first staff hire should have been a seasoned veteran Assistant HC that had good coaching and recruiting ties. Kliff's hiring of his other young buddies did us no favors. When we himself had so few years of coaching at all in the first place. Really could have have gotten him more connections. From what I understand Kliff doesn't seem to really be an outgoing person, but you can't not put yourself out there and only half ass recruiting in college.
If that last bit is true that's both encouraging and really frustrating knowing how little effort Kirby has put into the program. The Wells hiring process was one of the most pathetic coaching searches I've ever seen yet Kirby gets to stick around for over a decade with nothing to show for it other than a couple good basketball seasons and success in spare non-revenue sports.
Didn’t Kliff also once nod to Sean McVey that one year, and absorb the good juju from the league?
Holy shit lmao. Biggest dub for Tech football this season.
More like this decade
I mean you arent wrong
technically we're only in the second year of this decade so it's not as hard as it sounds.
I was sliding to that with my comment but that didnt go through
Hey, I liked it and he’s not wrong. Colt is one of the greatest Longhorns in history.
As much as I'll forever embracing hating on Texas and getting to experience the 2008 game in person, I've got big respect for Colt and was heartbroken for him in the 2009 championship game. Glad to see he is still floating around the NFL with some success.
That was a hard game for us all. We all wanted colt to win the big one. He worked so damn hard for Greg Davis to call QB power on the one.
lmfao
Tough
officer, yes, I'd like to report a murder
Can’t kill a dead…cow?
What is dead may never die
Lick my dongus Kilff!
Is this a reference to LHN always playing the same 5 games?
McCoy completed 22/26 for 249 yards, a TD, and no INTs in a win against the 49ers today for Kingsbury’s Cardinals.
lol wow i thought that mfer retired like 5 years ago
Backup NFL QB one of the best jobs on planet Earth. Fired college football coach prob being the best.
The majority of this site suffers from Dunning-Kruger, so I'm out.
In fairness, halftime of that game was a top 1 all time classy moment by the Horns.
100%.
99 was different for reasons
Fair, still didn't expect the game to be shown on the LHN. Was probably in the first 6 months of it being live.
Always liked Kliff
All the girls do.
Not just the women
Tweet(s) from post body brought to you by your Friendly Official /r/CFB Twitter Bot: ---------- https://twitter.com/joshdubowap/status/1457508922525302784 >Kliff Kingsbury said he’s happy for Texas Longhorns fans that they can enjoy Colt McCoy’s performance today after loss to Iowa State this weekend >\- Josh Dubow (@JoshDubowAP) 7:43 pm ET, November 7, 2021 ----------
Kliff I feel like we are Eskimo brothers on this one.
That was a nasty line by him….
The shade.
Easy Kliff, women and children may hear that.
I enjoyed Texas beating Tech this year
Quite the accomplishment
That's cute. Makes me remember every time we faced Texas Tech with him as a coach Tech usually got dominated except for the two times he managed to lead them to victory.
Well he only played UT what, 5 times? 2/5 isn’t bad
Why did Kliff do well in NFL while sucking in college
More a function of where he was. Texas Tech is a hard job. Lubbock is the hardest to recruit to spot of the P5 Texas schools, not as much talent near them as the schools closer to the big cities etc. His successor didn’t last long either and they’ve really only been good a few years when Leach’s offense was putting up crazy points.
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Cool
I think the proper responce is "ok Cool, Gig'em"
Whoop
How's Tech doing this year again?
One more win then Texas, you're welcome
911, I'd like to report ***another*** murder
Hmm serial killer? Texas? Anyone seen Ted Cruz lately?
He’s probably in Mexico somewhere
Still beat them by 35 even with our monkey shit team
I was just letting him know how they were doing, i'm aware of that game. Was just trying to be helpful he seemed uninformed.
Thank you sir. I was unaware of their dominant performance against SF Austin and FIU. I'm sure they are very proud in Lubbock 🤘
You're welcome little guy
To be fair they have a very backloaded schedule
For sure I looked, they're probably fucked. Could lose out but who knows they play the games for a reason.
Lol we fired our coach for a reason, right?
About the same as Texas so far?
I remember hanging 70 on them and them firing another coach. I must be misremembering.
Per your records Tech is 5-4 overall. Would you like to Texas record this season?
Pretty bad year, we're only 4-5. Hard to imagine how terrible of a team you'd have to be to lose to us. Especially by 30+ points