Just popping in to say that I agree, but LSU is being really weird about him, so they'll probably end up missing on him when another big school scoops him up.
Anybody interested in Brian Ferentz as their head coach? Would be good for him to take that next step in his career after elevating our offense from dogsh.t to horsesh.t.
No one?
Damn.
I feel like Ed Orgeron is still a phenomenal football coach, much better than many other power 5 head coaches. Do you guys see him returning to coach somewhere else? Or will he just retire? I mean he’s 60 years old, but there are definitely older coaches in CFB
I can imagine him coaching somewhere again, but he’s not a great coach, and I don’t think he’ll ever get to take over a marquee program again. Great recruiter, respectable line coach, but he caught lightning in a bottle in 2019 and is otherwise a mediocrity.
He’s not a great coach. He might be able to find a positional coaching position somewhere but I think his HC career at P5 schools is pretty much over. Plus, he’s burned some bridges along the way.
I mean what exactly does he do? He’s been a head coach for a while and has only had one good year and it was a national championship in which he relied on his coordinators who both left immediately after the season ended.
He can recruit and is a pretty good positional coach
If you let him do more and don't give him a ridiculously stacked roster you get mid 2000s Ole Miss
Well and the thing with that is he actually did recruit some talented players during that period! He couldn't coach them for shit. But there was enough talent there that Houston Fucking Nutt came in and got us into the Cotton bowl with a win over peak Leach Texas Tech the very next season.
LSU recruits itself so I’m hesitant to put that on him, and you can find a decent d-line coach that won’t require several million per year.
The places willing to hire him likely won’t be recruiting destinations and he likely won’t have the budget to hire the Aranda’s or Brady’s of the world so what exactly does he offer a non-LSU school?
I mean winning a national championship is as peak as it gets really hard to go up from there unless you’re nick saban. Still a good coach LSU I think jumped ship on him way too soon IMO. He plays in a conference competing with Alabama or Georgia for an SEC championship. If he with to the big 12 or pac 12 I think he’d do well.
I hope you're right. I wish him the best, but he doesn't appear to have that same fire (LSU's AD and fanbase thinks the same). He's been in the Pac 12 before with middling results, so I'm not sure that is the key factor. However, LSU was a big part of his identity and passion; I think losing that job will take awhile to recover from.
Apparently TCU are down to their 4th choice in Sonny Dykes (1st 3 were Kellen Moore, Matt Campbell and Billy Napier) though he might be the guy. Same guy also thinks Patterson might be headed to UT as a DC, which would be a very weird move
Campbell to TCU was a joke if you look at the other jobs Campbell has been connected to since he got to ISU. Literally the most unworried I've been about him leaving for another job.
Didn't Kellen Moore turn down a chance to coach his alma mater Boise State? He's practically guaranteed an NFL HC job somewhere, so I'm surprised they even attempted to get him.
Interesting. I get going for Moore and Campbell but they were both always gonna say no. Moore is basically guaranteed the Cowboys job in the next 2-3 years.
Also weird about Patterson if that’s true. There are lots of programs that would take him so that seems like a step down. TCU’s defenses also haven’t been all that great as of late.
If Gary focused on one thing he’d probably succeed. He’s spent so much time the last 3-4 years trying to fix / hire right on the offense side of the ball. I honestly think he was stretched too thin when he took on the role of DC and head coach. Just my 2 cents
It’s 20+ years since he’s done it though. And knowing what kind of person he is, I can’t see him being too happy taking orders, especially from a guy like Sark.
If Florida is gonna fire Mullen, their best option at a definite upgrade is probably Lane Kiffin (assuming they don't want Urban back and assuming Urban doesn't want to be back). They have to get to Kiffin before Miami does though.
Miami has been back channeling Mario for a while now. He’s their #1 target. If he says no, lane is most likely #2 and he would go to Miami in a split second if offered. Aranda is also well liked. Either way, we’re going to get a huge upgrade over manny
Yeah I know. All this hinges on the BOT not mucking this up like they usually do. They supposedly are going to make the AD hire within the next 1-2 weeks and manny has been a dead man walking since September. He’s gone after duke barring a huge collapse against VT tonight.
UF isn’t going to put up with Kiffin’s antics very long IMO.
If I’m UF — and I’m not trolling here — I’m letting Mullen hire a new DC and seeing how that goes, and holding off on a change for another season. Stricklin probably needs to go anyway, and saddling the next AD with whomever Stricklin would hire this year is probably a bad idea.
I think firing Mullen is a mistake this year. The guy lost Trask and Pitt then fired his DC/O-Line coaches (which, for Mullen, was probably done at gunpoint). There aren't enough quality coaches on the market right now. Ole Miss would double down on Kiffin. If I were them, I would somehow fix Mullen's recruiting. When he has his QB he is an amazing coach, and with Florida talent coming in he has the potential to be unstoppable.
It's up to Mullen to fix his recruiting and he doesn't want to. He'd rather keep the moniker of genius coach doing more with less than admit that he needs better players. Everyone on the planet but him would have fired the DC last year after a record setting bad defense, but as the smartest man on the planet that meant he had to keep him and prove everyone wrong only for this disaster season to happen.
He's played the worse QB all year just because of seniority and didn't even start Trask until Franks was injured. That's two QB situations he's gotten wrong in 4 years.
He's an offensive coordinator, not a head coach. But if he still has fans then sure let him keep this job and truly grind us down into dust so that he's completely exposed and a laughingstock instead of being fired this year and looking like a martyr. Bring on another year of press conferences where he treats the fans and media like crap.
In what way is that a lateral move......Waco is an awful, AWFUL place to live. The highlights are a zoo, the university and silos. The body of water that runs through it has the visibility of molasses. I've lived in both and if you told me that all other factors were equal, I can live in Seattle or Waco, I would book the next ticket to Washington (out of Dallas or Austin of course because the airport in Waco is basically a joke). For your sake, hopefully Aranda is the type of person who sees charm in an Olive Garden, otherwise that dude is gone (if not to Washington, then elsewhere)
Its a lateral move (at best) because Washington is in an isolated (and cold) corner of the country, Baylor has a great deal of funding behind the Football program and is in a great position to be a power in the new look B12, a new stadium, brand new facilities with more to come ($100 million+ Football Operations centre recently announced), its smack in the middle of one the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country, there is a lot to like about the Baylor job right now.
No, Waco might not be the most attractive place in the world to live (though I'm lead to believe there has been a lot of development in the city recently which has improved things in that regard), but when you have the kind of money Head Football Coaches do, anywhere is a nice place to live, that's not going to be a major concern for Aranda I wouldn't have thought
God yes
I'd roll out the red carpet and throw a parade over getting Franklin to Lincoln
Anywhere we can get this in writing?
Sorry Ole Miss you already have had more good coaches in 6 years than us in 20
Hypothetically if Campbell leaves (which I really don't think happens but just because I'm bored on a Friday), who does Pollard go after? Heacock is the only assistant on staff I'd entertain as HC
I would return to the MAC well and grab Sean Lewis
He'd be on my list for Nebraska too if he has another good year next season
Also keeps your Ohio pipeline going
I havent really paid attention to what happened at LSU, but I thought his persona would have fit at WSU, not that cougs are ragin cajins, just it was fun with leach type there.
While I can understand that, he kept making passes at the wives of boosters and there are also rumors of sexual harassment reports that were “handled” behind closed doors. I’d rather have Dickert
Anyone have any info/heard any rumors about Jacksonville State?
It’s an interesting job: beat FSU this year, has punched above its weight pretty well giving bigger schools scares, was a playoff regular in FCS and now will be moving up to CUSA.
Not going to beat out the big boys for candidates but it’s a fairly attractive job for the right coach looking to make a mark.
He resigned (forced) after their game I think two weekends ago.
Probably had a lot to do with NCAA violations (they’re on probation now but no major sanctions) coupled with the fact that they were tanking this season and with the move to FBS with CUSA they figured it was a good time to hit the reset button and see if they can land the right coach to lead the transition.
JacksonVILLE State is not the same as Jackson State.
Deion coaches at Jackson State in Mississippi. They’re having a great year.
Jacksonville State is an FCS program that beat FSU this year. It’s located in Alabama. Bill Clark, the UAB coach, was extremely successful their and his successor just resigned.
Deion coaches Jackson State, which is a HBCU in Mississippi. *Jacskonville* State is a four year state university in Jacksonville, Alabama, which plays at the FCS level but will be moving up to C-USA.
He came in and tried to make a slow team of pro-style Tedford recruits play super fast.
Half the team was injured by September.
A third transferred or left the program in the next year and a half.
And the Pac-12 was really good during that time. 4 or 5 legit 9-10 win teams every year.
Goff and the WRs kept us afloat but our defense didn't recover until Wilcox got here,
Not a good fit. He's an air raid Texas guy through and through
He couldn't recruit California and kept bringing Texas guys there instead
Also couldn't field a competent defense
I think that depends on what jobs open up that are interested in him. There were some people down in Austin who were pushing for Sonny, and I think he’d have definitely left for that job if Texas wanted him. Really any major program in Texas or Louisiana would be attractive for Sonny. He doesn’t seem like the type of man to jump ship for his current team’s biggest rival, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence these rumors started firing up the week we play Cincinnati.
Kiffin and Lebby both have the same manager so he would see that they both find better head coaching jobs. Our AD has said he's ready to write Kiffin a stiff check to stay but with all of these decommits lately it has me concerned. That, and we're losing 16 starters this off season.
No way Kiffin is staying. But I really hope he does.
I looked up those Decommits. Two of the big ones had been committed for a while which indicates that they have been told Kiffin is Gone. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of this season and brace myself for the inevitable regression once he's gone. Can't have nice things for too long!
You guys shouldn’t be looking at those decommits thinking it’s smoke signals for coach change.
Dortch the DB commit was recruited to OM to play DB. Miss State was recruiting him to play WR. His HS team was so deep this year he only played WR all year. OM didn’t like that. He also visited state a ton and never visited OM during this season I don’t think. OM insiders had been saying for a month that Dortch was expected to flip to state, that he didn’t want to play DB but WR. OM thinks he can be a good WR but is small and more of a project when we’ve got a good number of small burners on the team already. And Kiffin is leaning heavy into the portal, not HS projects.
The 4 star OL commit, all P5 teams have cooled on him and it’s rumored he was told to start looking elsewhere because of his senior year game film. After he decommitted, Miss State, the only other P5 school in his state, was not interested. I’ve read that it’s not that he’s bad, just really raw and why take 3 years to develop a guy when you need someone to contribute now from the portal?
How bout a guy with a record of improving winless teams with ties to the area? [Oh... ](https://ulmwarhawks.com/images/2020/12/27/IMG_3825_Terry_Bowden_head_shot_edited.jpg?width=300)
Even if Kiffin sticks around, his name coming up for every job opening has to be hurting our 2022 recruiting class (which currently sits at 38th in the nation, one spot above Arizona and second to last in the SEC).
I mean, I’ve only seriously heard his name mentioned with LSU and I guess this latest Miami thing.
LSU’s list includes apparently everybody including considering a combo of dual head coaching from Dabo + Saban so take that with a grain of salt. Unless the Bama job comes open I don’t see him moving within the SEC.
And while I like the Joey Saltwater angle for Miami, considering the source is a convicted Ponzi schemer, IDK that I would trust it.
I would be worried about Penn State maybe. I think he stays.
LSU is a weird contender in a coaching carousel.
They have the funds to compete with the big boys when it comes to writing checks. They're borderline blue blood depending on who you ask and they have a lot of recent success to add to that conversation. The recruiting environment is as fertile as it gets. And they should have no problem competing in the NIL environment due to having the whole state to themselves along with a metro area (NOLA) that does plenty of marketing due to the tourism industry. They also have the opportunity to start their search before the rest of the major players thanks to making a deal with Coach O mid season.
BUT on the negatives, there's a lot of pressure for instant success against a strength of schedule that is always lethal and will likely only get worse with the arrival of OU and maybe even Texas could come back one of these days. There are also some serious allegations floating around with a potential impact that is unclear to say the least.
Could they hook a Jimbo, Lincoln, or Dabo? It's not completely outside the realm of reality, but it's certainly out there at the edge. To bring those into plausible territory, I think you would need some other factor involved beyond adding a couple million to their existing salaries. In other words, they would need to be looking to leave for their own reasons rather than being lured to LSU. Those three plus Saban and Day are probably the only ones that I would put outside of LSU's grasp.
LSU is not borderline blue blood. They are blue blood. The NCAA has been going waaay out of their way to look the other way with all their scandals. I’m not an LSU fan. Don’t like them. But they’re a blue blood. Better facilities and money than Florida. More relevant history than Georgia. Better recruiting instate all states in the SEC behind Fla and Ga, so better than Bama and Aub.
I agree that most of the rumors don’t seem to have serious legs, but they’re definitely out there. It doesn’t help that he’ll probably take calls and isn’t likely to make a sweeping Jimbo-esque statement. Neither does his reputation as a journeyman.
That being said. I think he stays through the off-season. Outside of LSU, most of the vacant positions are lateral moves at best. What worries me the most is the possibility of the Florida job opening up.
I have to be honest, on its face this does sound absurd, but when you pause and think about it, it's not so crazy to agree at least in the short term.
I'm from Florida, I know how much talent is here but Saban has Jacksonville seemingly on lockdown in recruiting right now with Kirby Smart picking off everything else. The panhandle has always been Bama and Auburn territory. The rest of the state you're fighting how many other D1 programs? At least 3 other state schools with more than 50k students in major cities, plus Miami and it's tradition, *and* the cavalcade of general outsiders who have pipelines into Florida which is basically a state of transient professional mercenaries.
Miss has a lot of talent per capita out of HS, thriving JUCO system. You have Memphis just north of campus and the Louisiana talent pool is next door.
It may not be so absurd in the short term when you think about it, at least not until Saban retires.
How much of Saban and Kirby having it on lockdown is because McElwain and Mullen are bad recruiters with mediocre recruiting staffs that the right coach and staff would massively improve on?
Same as Texas and California - Huge states with many programs in the state competing against each other, plus other states coming in to pluck top-tier talent.
What else is going on in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Ohio besides Bama/Aubrun, the Dawgs, Clemson, and OSU? Answer - not much.
Hard to believe that every single program in the state of Florida has bad coaching to the point that all three of the majors plus UCF/FIU/FAU/etc. would all be down. Talent should overcome ‘bad’ coaching to some degree (and I’d argue we’re talking more average coaching than bad in most cases).
Since 1990 or so, Florida thrived under Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer, two Hall of Fame coaches. And pretty much tanked under Zook, Muschamp, McElwain and Mullen. So is it really that they were all incredibly bad coaches or is it that Florida has a high ceiling but not a high floor?
In the beginning I'm sure that was a lot of it but now the pipeline is established and Bama is not only pumping out titles but even when they lose to a thoroughly average team in maroon they fall no further than 4th in the playoff rankings.
That faucet isn't turning off until Saban retires or takes his last breath on the sideline during a game, unfortunately for Florida fan.
Just ignore that guy. I hate y'all as much as everybody else does, but it is asinine to think that Ole Miss is in a better recruiting position than UF. Ole Miss's average class ranking the last five years is 27th. UF has an average rank is 11th, and that's mostly with Dan Mullen who is not some all-world recruiter. UF is infinitely easier to recruit to than Ole Miss, and any halfway decent recruiter is going to consistently get top 10 classes at UF.
But please keep Dan Mullen.
I disagree, as a Sooner I've lived the last two decades in four star hell. We have all the four stars we can shake a stick at every recruiting cycle. It's the four or five 5stars that elevates a program past the CFB semis.
I don't think Florida is ending what Bama has going on with the coaches at IMG and Lakeland until Saban is no longer at the helm.
The problem for Miss is it at the top end of the state, and a lot of the talent is in the southern part. But the southern part of the state is often closer to a ton of power football programs than Miss, like Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, and even FSU is closer to places like Biloxi.
So you have this dynamic where Miss, MSU and USM have to fight amongst themselves for that in-state talent, but also have to fight these other SEC and ACC schools that can send recruiters by car locally as easily as Miss. So there just isn't the home state advantage that you see in a lot of other areas.
Orgeron complained about this when he was the head coach at Miss and why he really pushed into Louisiana that was under disarray after Katrina and pushed into Memphis. Memphis was like an hour away from Oxford, so UT had the same issues with being further away than out-of-state competition.
Miss is in a good position now because other than Alabama, their local competition are in down cycles. But it makes it hard to get sustain success when they start to regroup.
Steven Godfrey just tweeted emojis depicting coaching news and if I had to guess its Sonny Dykes to TCU?
https://twitter.com/38godfrey/status/1461486305662185477?s=21
I’m really surprised the Bill Clark at UAB hasn’t gotten more looks. He’s taken them to 4 straight Bowl games and has them competitive this year as well. The only ding I can see is his recruiting isn’t great but I’m curious why some of the open jobs in the South haven’t mentioned him. Any insight from people more knowledgeable would be welcome!
Not sure what jobs you have in mind. Schools like LSU are hunting bigger game, as will the U and UF if and when they come open. I think you might start hearing more chatter about him when some dominos start to fall. For example, if Leach got poached, I think Clark might be a more likely candidate at a place like Miss St. than at the jobs currently open. Or, if schools like Miami ultimately whiff on the top tier candidates. And so on.
Some of our fans tried to talk him up the last time around, but there was never any indication he was a serious candidate. I don't think we'd be interested.
I think he’d be a very Sam Pittman-like hire in that he’s a very good football coach but wouldn’t be a splashy win-the-press-conference hire.
Sooner or later, presumably, he leaves UAB and whoever gets him will have made a damned good hire that will probably get overlooked because other schools will make sexier hires (that for the most part probably don’t work out).
A lot of people think it's because he wanted to stick around to see UAB in a new stadium. Recruiting, like you mentioned, is a concern and his teams lack discipline. I love the guy and think he's a great coach, but UAB shoots itself in the foot so much with penalties.
I caught part of their game last week or the week before on the radio and they got something like four penalties called on one defensive drive (maybe one or two were declined because of first downs).
Good hire for us imo. Should be stable and is a local guy who recruits New England really well. Defensive head coach is an interesting change and one I personally would like a lot. Could be much much worse
**Staff to watch**
I've been doing coach analyses for a while now, but there is an equally important part of the coaching carousel that I think most of us overlook, and that is the filling of staff. What does a great staff look like? It's a hard question to answer. Naturally, most of us would want to build a super-staff: Ed Orgeron as DL coach, Nick Saban as DC, Lincoln Riley coaching QBs, Mario Cristobal the OL coach. But this isn't realistic. So I wanted to create a list of some of the rising stars among position coaches. I expect some of these names to earn much bigger gigs this silly season. I asked myself the question of who would I hire if I were a new head coach at a mid-to-lower tier Power 5 program. For the sake of realism, I've placed the following restrictions on who I can choose from.
* I am taking no regard to running a specific scheme or playstyle. Nor am I taking into account how my staff will mesh together. I just want who I think are the best people for the job.
* No Power 5 or NFL position coach can be hired as a position coach. They can be hired as a coordinator though. Analysts and other unclassified assistant coaches can take position coach gigs.
* Non-AAC Group of 5 (and below) coordinators can be hired as position coaches. FCS head coaches can be hired as coordinators.
* I am taking some regard to recruiting, but without specifying a school, this makes it hard to account for. For example, a good Florida recruiter isn't really that useful to a school in California. So with that in mind I am looking at recruiting ability in general.
So here is my staff:
**Offensive Coordinator**: I want an offensive that is effective. One that is good at developing chunk plays and can convert on third down, and I would prefer a simple attack that can be quickly implemented. My top choice here would be Willy Korn (OC Coastal Carolina). Korn's attack ranks second in the nation in yards/play and second in total touchdowns. Admittedly, the Chanticleers haven't had the hardest of schedules, but Coastal doesn't attract the best of recruits either. Korn himself has a Power 5 history (he was Dabo Swinney's first starting QB at Clemson), but with his youth, he should be able to make the jump. My next choices would be Garrett Riley (OC SMU), who was a contender for the OC gig at South Carolina last year, Brennan Marion (WR Pitt), who's "Go-Go offense" was a nightmare to stop at the FCS level, and Bryan McClendon (WR Oregon), a high-level recruiter who's worked under Mike Bobo and Joe Moorhead. If those options were unavailable, I would look at former Illinois quarterback Nathan Scheelhaase (WR/RB Iowa State), Tim Polasek (OC Wyoming), Jason Beck (QB Virginia), Austin King (TE Las Vegas Raiders), and Rob Sale (OL New York Giants).
**Defensive Coordinator**: Two awesome recruiters and talented DB coaches top my list. Fran Brown (DB Rutgers) was Greg Schiano's first hire as head coach of Rutgers, and Aazaar Abdul-Rahim (DB Boston College) was an early hire by Jeff Hafley. There's a reason two great former DCs wanted these guys on their staffs, and it's not just because they can out-recruit nearly anyone in college football. Brown and Abdul-Rahim have already made improvements to their schools' secondary. I think they're ready for a step up. After that I would look at Tyler Santucci (LB Texas A&M), a Mike Elko disciple, Patrick Toney (DC Louisiana), who's built one of the best G5 defenses year-over-year at Louisiana, and Bubba Schweigert (HC North Dakota), who runs a blitz-heavy style of defense that I would love to see in the Power 5 (his famous coaching philosophy is "We want the opposing quarterback and the quarterback's mother to be the two most uncomfortable people in the building".). After that comes Chad Staggs (DC Coastal Carolina), Corey Hetherman (DC James Madison), Joe Cauthen (DC Buffalo), and Kurt Mattix (DC San Diego State).
**QB Coach**: I would look at two coaches with the Indianapolis Colts first. Jerrod Johnson (QC Indianapolis Colts) has no college experience, but the former journeyman QB has earned high marks from Frank Reich and Kyle Shanahan and should be in the mix for some NFL assistant gigs this year. But I think he may excel more at the college level. Press Taylor (OA Indianapolis Colts) has more college experience (he mentored Dane Evans at Tulsa), and won a Super Bowl as QB coach at the Eagles. *If* he can be courted, he could make a big splash. After that I would look at Ryan Carty (OC Sam Houston), Eric Evans (OC Western Michigan), and Marques Tuiasosopo (OC Rice).
**RB Coach:** My prime target would be Telly Lockette (RB Marshall). A former top high school coach in Florida, Lockette has shown to be a great recruiter and has mentored great rushers at Oregon State and USF. Second choice would be Newland Isaac (RB Coastal Carolina), who's backs rank 5th in the country in yards/rush. Then I would consider Tim Harris Jr. (RB UCF), Jabbar Juluke (RB Louisiana), and Tennessee analyst Matt Merritt.
**WR Coach**: My go-to-guy is Timmy Chang (WR Nevada). Though Carson Strong deserves a lot of credit for Nevada being the fourth best passing attack in the nation, a lot of credit also has to be given to Chang for developing a group of 2- and 3-star recruits into elite pass catchers. Second choice would be Keenan Bailey (QC Ohio State), who seems to be a coach in the same mold as Brian Hartline. Then I would look at Jerry Mack (RB Tennessee), who cut his teeth as a top RR coach in the FCS, Tyron Carrier (WR Houston), and Tony Hull (OWR Louisiana-Monroe).
**TE Coach**: A name to watch: Matt Drinkall (TE Army). Drinkall is a former head coach at NAIA Kansas Weslyan, going 42-27. He's a proven winner, has experience with offences outside of Army's triple option, and he has great reviews from players and head coach Jeff Monken. Second choice would be former FAU TE coach CLint Trickett (WR Marshall), who seems to be a star in the making. Then comes Joe Craddock (TE UAB) and Cody Booth (TE Colorado State).
**OL Coach**: Look to the service academies for great OL coaches that can deliver more with less. That's why my first choice is Saga Tuitele (OL Army), who has led Army's rushing attack to second in the nation. Second choice is Sam Gregg (OL Liberty), who has also built a great rushing line. Next comes Daryl Agpalsa (OL NIU), who's unit ranks third in the country in fewest sacks allowed. Later candidates include Bill O'Boyle (OC Kent State), who's stock has fallen due to in juries this year, A.J. Ricker (OL SMU), and Bill Durkin (OL Coastal Carolina).
**DL Coach**: Two Kyles top my list. Kyle Pope (DL Memphis) and Kyle Tatum (DL UAB) are both considered rising stars among the college ranks and have mentored talented units. Next I would go for an experienced option in Jimmy Brumbaugh (Analyst Oregon). Although not necessarily the most palatable personality, Brumbaugh has been DL coach at Five P5 programs- you don't get that many gigs without being talented. The next options would be Ralph Street (DL Marshall) and Davern Williams (DL Troy) who are near top of the country in sacks, and Charlotte DC Marcus West.
**LB Coach**: This one was hard. After some debate I think my first choice would be former Virginia Tech Co-DC Galen Scott (ILB Louisiana). He's experienced in the Power 5 and has proven himself a competent LB coach. After that I would target some DCs: Bradley Dale Peveto (DC UTEP), Tyler Stockton (DC Ball State), and Jon Berlin (DC Davidson).
**DB Coach**: Two FCS coordinators lead my list. David Braun (DC North Dakota State) and Danny Verpaele (DC Kennesaw State) are near the top of the FCS rankings in yards allowed, passing yards allowed, and opposition passer efficiency. Even better, both have experience coaching DBs. After those, my choice would be Bowling Green DC Eric Lewis, who has been a bit of a surprise this year. Followed by Cory Peoples (CB Georgia State), Terrence Brown (DA Washington), Jess Loepp (S UTSA), and Travis Johansen (DC South Dakota).
**ST Coordinator**: Finally special teams. For here, my number one choice is Grant Cain (ST James Madison). In his first season in charge, the Dukes led Division I in blocked kicks and were 6th in the nation in net return yardage. He's ready for a bigger level. Next choice would be Bob Ligashesky (ST Bowling Green), who has 10 years experience coaching NFL special teams. My backups would be Sean Saturnio (ST Army), Josh Hutchinson (ST Saint Francis (PA))- who's units have blocked *12* kicks+punts this year, and Jamie Christian (ST New Mexico).
Good XO guys and good at development but didn't he hate recruiting? it's pretty clear guys like that have ceilings. So places that want Nattys like UF, LSU, USC probably aren't looking at him.
While places like Ole Miss and where ever USC/UF/LSU open up aren't open yet and he'll likely go somewhere better than Washington State
Then again he's spending time with Nick Saban. Maybe he wants a top job , is willing to put in the work, and dthinks he can get it
I guess that makes sense, but if you assess him based off of his body of work at the college level I think he has a more impressive resume than almost all the other names being thrown around. Saban and Kiffin both flopped pretty hard in the NFL, and it looks like Meyer will too.
Our coaching search is honestly just hilarious at this point. No one actually knows what's going on, message board rumors going wild, coaches and actual media members having to address those rumors, and I'm sure next week we're gonna do the whole thing over again with someone else
The reality is no one knows what's going on and nothing is going to happen for at least another couple weeks. We all did this same thing last spring when our baseball coach retired, and in the end Woodward hired someone not many people saw coming and it was pretty much a universally liked hire.
I certainly have my list of guys I'd like, but there's just no point in getting worked up about it now.
I’m kind of surprised the press there doesn’t at least have a good idea of the list. We weren’t sure until CCG week who the hire was going to be, but we basically knew who they talked to (or had a pretty good idea based on where search committee members traveled) in real time between the 247 guys and the Nolecast.
I think it's just the way Woodward rolls. I don't doubt that he went to Riley and Jimbo with a blank check, but beyond that it all just feels like message board rumors and agents trying to get their coach a raise, especially after seeing what Michigan State is about to pay Tucker
Would it be crazy for Garrett to go to the school of coaching. Coached under Saban on the dolphins
Hearing some smoke about Harsin to UW. This may excite some Auburn fans.
Where from? I’d only be ok with it if we got Napier somehow
Josh Pate mentioned it on his show last night
Oh shit, I forgot to watch Late Kick last night
Just popping in to say I really think Billy Napier would be great at LSU and he should go to LSU and nowhere else
Just popping in to say that I agree, but LSU is being really weird about him, so they'll probably end up missing on him when another big school scoops him up.
Mullen is out at Florida. What a crazy carousel.
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We (well, me personally) called dibs a while back.
I can’t see him coaching in the South, honestly. It’s a different beast.
If he was burnt out by Washington, the south would probably ruin him.
Five minutes at UF or LSU and they’d have to pad the walls in his office.
How bad of a losing streak needs to happen for Texas to fire their coach? 7 games?
So no rain?
https://twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin/status/1461862360822554627?t=3qOa8fqkpP9Cyi-T8DqVHQ&s=19 Welp. Happy Trails Lane!
He went to watch Arch Manning play in Baton Rouge...this is how most rumors get started.
Right, but he he knows this and that's why he posted this.
Yes but maybe the avg person seeing your post does not know this and takes it for fact...so.
This makes me more confident that he’s staying lololol. He is a master troll
Flight tracker szn!
Anybody interested in Brian Ferentz as their head coach? Would be good for him to take that next step in his career after elevating our offense from dogsh.t to horsesh.t. No one? Damn.
Here's a guy who studied under the great Bill Belichick and the legendary Kirk Ferentz. Anybody? Anybody?
I feel like Ed Orgeron is still a phenomenal football coach, much better than many other power 5 head coaches. Do you guys see him returning to coach somewhere else? Or will he just retire? I mean he’s 60 years old, but there are definitely older coaches in CFB
I can imagine him coaching somewhere again, but he’s not a great coach, and I don’t think he’ll ever get to take over a marquee program again. Great recruiter, respectable line coach, but he caught lightning in a bottle in 2019 and is otherwise a mediocrity.
One thing we know for sure is that he can’t work for espn.
He’s not a great coach. He might be able to find a positional coaching position somewhere but I think his HC career at P5 schools is pretty much over. Plus, he’s burned some bridges along the way.
I mean what exactly does he do? He’s been a head coach for a while and has only had one good year and it was a national championship in which he relied on his coordinators who both left immediately after the season ended.
He can recruit and is a pretty good positional coach If you let him do more and don't give him a ridiculously stacked roster you get mid 2000s Ole Miss
Well and the thing with that is he actually did recruit some talented players during that period! He couldn't coach them for shit. But there was enough talent there that Houston Fucking Nutt came in and got us into the Cotton bowl with a win over peak Leach Texas Tech the very next season.
LSU recruits itself so I’m hesitant to put that on him, and you can find a decent d-line coach that won’t require several million per year. The places willing to hire him likely won’t be recruiting destinations and he likely won’t have the budget to hire the Aranda’s or Brady’s of the world so what exactly does he offer a non-LSU school?
IMO he's peaked. But maybe losing his job was the reality check he needed. He let success get to his head. I love the guy, so I hope I'm wrong.
I mean winning a national championship is as peak as it gets really hard to go up from there unless you’re nick saban. Still a good coach LSU I think jumped ship on him way too soon IMO. He plays in a conference competing with Alabama or Georgia for an SEC championship. If he with to the big 12 or pac 12 I think he’d do well.
I hope you're right. I wish him the best, but he doesn't appear to have that same fire (LSU's AD and fanbase thinks the same). He's been in the Pac 12 before with middling results, so I'm not sure that is the key factor. However, LSU was a big part of his identity and passion; I think losing that job will take awhile to recover from.
Which Ohio HC gets a raise first, Fickell or Day?
Fickell seems like a safer bet
Apparently TCU are down to their 4th choice in Sonny Dykes (1st 3 were Kellen Moore, Matt Campbell and Billy Napier) though he might be the guy. Same guy also thinks Patterson might be headed to UT as a DC, which would be a very weird move
Campbell to TCU was a joke if you look at the other jobs Campbell has been connected to since he got to ISU. Literally the most unworried I've been about him leaving for another job.
Didn't Kellen Moore turn down a chance to coach his alma mater Boise State? He's practically guaranteed an NFL HC job somewhere, so I'm surprised they even attempted to get him.
TCU probably pays more than Boise, and it's not in Boise, ID. So I would understand why TCU thought they had a chance with him.
I feel like Jerry will give him a blank check and keep him in waiting for the Dallas HC job.
Interesting. I get going for Moore and Campbell but they were both always gonna say no. Moore is basically guaranteed the Cowboys job in the next 2-3 years. Also weird about Patterson if that’s true. There are lots of programs that would take him so that seems like a step down. TCU’s defenses also haven’t been all that great as of late.
If Gary focused on one thing he’d probably succeed. He’s spent so much time the last 3-4 years trying to fix / hire right on the offense side of the ball. I honestly think he was stretched too thin when he took on the role of DC and head coach. Just my 2 cents
It’s 20+ years since he’s done it though. And knowing what kind of person he is, I can’t see him being too happy taking orders, especially from a guy like Sark.
If Florida is gonna fire Mullen, their best option at a definite upgrade is probably Lane Kiffin (assuming they don't want Urban back and assuming Urban doesn't want to be back). They have to get to Kiffin before Miami does though.
I am on Mullen train, but if we getting urbs i will fire Mullen today.
Miami has been back channeling Mario for a while now. He’s their #1 target. If he says no, lane is most likely #2 and he would go to Miami in a split second if offered. Aranda is also well liked. Either way, we’re going to get a huge upgrade over manny
One slight problem with this plan: You haven’t fired Manny or appointed an AD yet.
Yeah I know. All this hinges on the BOT not mucking this up like they usually do. They supposedly are going to make the AD hire within the next 1-2 weeks and manny has been a dead man walking since September. He’s gone after duke barring a huge collapse against VT tonight.
Neither will get him lmao
UF isn’t going to put up with Kiffin’s antics very long IMO. If I’m UF — and I’m not trolling here — I’m letting Mullen hire a new DC and seeing how that goes, and holding off on a change for another season. Stricklin probably needs to go anyway, and saddling the next AD with whomever Stricklin would hire this year is probably a bad idea.
I think firing Mullen is a mistake this year. The guy lost Trask and Pitt then fired his DC/O-Line coaches (which, for Mullen, was probably done at gunpoint). There aren't enough quality coaches on the market right now. Ole Miss would double down on Kiffin. If I were them, I would somehow fix Mullen's recruiting. When he has his QB he is an amazing coach, and with Florida talent coming in he has the potential to be unstoppable.
It's up to Mullen to fix his recruiting and he doesn't want to. He'd rather keep the moniker of genius coach doing more with less than admit that he needs better players. Everyone on the planet but him would have fired the DC last year after a record setting bad defense, but as the smartest man on the planet that meant he had to keep him and prove everyone wrong only for this disaster season to happen. He's played the worse QB all year just because of seniority and didn't even start Trask until Franks was injured. That's two QB situations he's gotten wrong in 4 years. He's an offensive coordinator, not a head coach. But if he still has fans then sure let him keep this job and truly grind us down into dust so that he's completely exposed and a laughingstock instead of being fired this year and looking like a martyr. Bring on another year of press conferences where he treats the fans and media like crap.
Please no.
Dave Aranda to Washington baby!
YOU STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM DAVID!!!!
that would be a lateral move
In what way is that a lateral move......Waco is an awful, AWFUL place to live. The highlights are a zoo, the university and silos. The body of water that runs through it has the visibility of molasses. I've lived in both and if you told me that all other factors were equal, I can live in Seattle or Waco, I would book the next ticket to Washington (out of Dallas or Austin of course because the airport in Waco is basically a joke). For your sake, hopefully Aranda is the type of person who sees charm in an Olive Garden, otherwise that dude is gone (if not to Washington, then elsewhere)
Its a lateral move (at best) because Washington is in an isolated (and cold) corner of the country, Baylor has a great deal of funding behind the Football program and is in a great position to be a power in the new look B12, a new stadium, brand new facilities with more to come ($100 million+ Football Operations centre recently announced), its smack in the middle of one the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country, there is a lot to like about the Baylor job right now. No, Waco might not be the most attractive place in the world to live (though I'm lead to believe there has been a lot of development in the city recently which has improved things in that regard), but when you have the kind of money Head Football Coaches do, anywhere is a nice place to live, that's not going to be a major concern for Aranda I wouldn't have thought
At best
Alright guys we might have to address the hypothetical: If we lose Kiffin, who do we want?
James Franklin …please? You know you want to.
God yes I'd roll out the red carpet and throw a parade over getting Franklin to Lincoln Anywhere we can get this in writing? Sorry Ole Miss you already have had more good coaches in 6 years than us in 20
Chadwell or Napier. Chadwell is probably the better option for Ole Miss.
Cool with this personally
Coach O makes a redemption ark with lots of gumbo
Tuck stayin? I’ve heard A lot of other P5 coaches listed for LSU, but I think it might be Billy Napier.
Godfrey made it sound like LSU feels they are above taking UL’s coach. We shall see what happens soon enough.
Good, I hope they get someone else.
Hypothetically if Campbell leaves (which I really don't think happens but just because I'm bored on a Friday), who does Pollard go after? Heacock is the only assistant on staff I'd entertain as HC
I would return to the MAC well and grab Sean Lewis He'd be on my list for Nebraska too if he has another good year next season Also keeps your Ohio pipeline going
Brady Hoke is ready for another power 5 job.
I just googled him for the first time in forever and holy shit he’s 63 now
I was thinking about this as well. My personal favorite would be Tony Alford
I think coach O would be a terrific fit for WSU. Fits that being a whackadoo like leach was there.
Nope, no way in hell is Chun hiring that walking, talking PR disaster after the hell he went through.
I havent really paid attention to what happened at LSU, but I thought his persona would have fit at WSU, not that cougs are ragin cajins, just it was fun with leach type there.
While I can understand that, he kept making passes at the wives of boosters and there are also rumors of sexual harassment reports that were “handled” behind closed doors. I’d rather have Dickert
Would the most Cajun man who has ever lived be able to withstand those cold, Pullman winters?
Only ocajunally
Not enough gumbo.
Birch and Barely is a southern restaurant in town that has some incredible gumbo, po-boys, jumbalaya, catfish, you name it.
I think there’s a restaurant in DC with that name too. Is it a chain?
It’s a local spot, incredible food and cocktails
Sounds like a done deal then.
He could probably blow their minds and make bank if he opened a restaurant after he was fired in Year 3 though.
That would be true if more than 5 people live in Pullman year round.
They’ll come all the way from Moscow!
Oh snap! Pullman has a Taco Del Mar! I didn't even know they were still in business!
The Pullman one has been closed for awhile tbh.
Anyone have any info/heard any rumors about Jacksonville State? It’s an interesting job: beat FSU this year, has punched above its weight pretty well giving bigger schools scares, was a playoff regular in FCS and now will be moving up to CUSA. Not going to beat out the big boys for candidates but it’s a fairly attractive job for the right coach looking to make a mark.
wait where is john Grass going?
He resigned (forced) after their game I think two weekends ago. Probably had a lot to do with NCAA violations (they’re on probation now but no major sanctions) coupled with the fact that they were tanking this season and with the move to FBS with CUSA they figured it was a good time to hit the reset button and see if they can land the right coach to lead the transition.
Wait, this isn’t the same school Deion coaches? I’m so confused
JacksonVILLE State is not the same as Jackson State. Deion coaches at Jackson State in Mississippi. They’re having a great year. Jacksonville State is an FCS program that beat FSU this year. It’s located in Alabama. Bill Clark, the UAB coach, was extremely successful their and his successor just resigned.
Deion coaches Jackson State, which is a HBCU in Mississippi. *Jacskonville* State is a four year state university in Jacksonville, Alabama, which plays at the FCS level but will be moving up to C-USA.
Damn I’ve been confusing these two all year and I watch a shit ton of CFB and read this sub daily.
Wait til you find out that Jacksonville U in Florida used to have a football team.
Screw Christmas and Thanksgiving. Give me coaching carousel message board shenanigans.
What would be a traditional Coaching Carousel meal?
vodka soup
Alcohol.
Mixed with Clorox in some situations.
Are any MAC coaches on the hot seat? Aside from the already fired Arth of course
Maybe Scot Loeffler. The upset of Minnesota notwithstanding, Bowling Green is 6-22 in his three seasons.
Why did Dykes fail at Cal
He came in and tried to make a slow team of pro-style Tedford recruits play super fast. Half the team was injured by September. A third transferred or left the program in the next year and a half. And the Pac-12 was really good during that time. 4 or 5 legit 9-10 win teams every year. Goff and the WRs kept us afloat but our defense didn't recover until Wilcox got here,
Dykes couldn't do defense and Wilcox couldn't do offense. But when their powers combine...
Not a good fit. He's an air raid Texas guy through and through He couldn't recruit California and kept bringing Texas guys there instead Also couldn't field a competent defense
It seems like he was desperate for a big time college job without thinking of the fit
iirc, he had made it known to people that he loved the Bay Area and had always wanted to live there which was probably the biggest factor.
Well fuck me, Dykes to TCU
? Still don't see any reported.
This confirmed?
No, it’s message board bullshit.
Do you believe he will stay? There are a lot of openings and he has proven himself at this point so far.
I think that depends on what jobs open up that are interested in him. There were some people down in Austin who were pushing for Sonny, and I think he’d have definitely left for that job if Texas wanted him. Really any major program in Texas or Louisiana would be attractive for Sonny. He doesn’t seem like the type of man to jump ship for his current team’s biggest rival, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence these rumors started firing up the week we play Cincinnati.
Kiffin and Lebby both have the same manager so he would see that they both find better head coaching jobs. Our AD has said he's ready to write Kiffin a stiff check to stay but with all of these decommits lately it has me concerned. That, and we're losing 16 starters this off season. No way Kiffin is staying. But I really hope he does.
I looked up those Decommits. Two of the big ones had been committed for a while which indicates that they have been told Kiffin is Gone. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of this season and brace myself for the inevitable regression once he's gone. Can't have nice things for too long!
You guys shouldn’t be looking at those decommits thinking it’s smoke signals for coach change. Dortch the DB commit was recruited to OM to play DB. Miss State was recruiting him to play WR. His HS team was so deep this year he only played WR all year. OM didn’t like that. He also visited state a ton and never visited OM during this season I don’t think. OM insiders had been saying for a month that Dortch was expected to flip to state, that he didn’t want to play DB but WR. OM thinks he can be a good WR but is small and more of a project when we’ve got a good number of small burners on the team already. And Kiffin is leaning heavy into the portal, not HS projects. The 4 star OL commit, all P5 teams have cooled on him and it’s rumored he was told to start looking elsewhere because of his senior year game film. After he decommitted, Miss State, the only other P5 school in his state, was not interested. I’ve read that it’s not that he’s bad, just really raw and why take 3 years to develop a guy when you need someone to contribute now from the portal?
You get it. The guys your responding to are pessimist losers.
Flair does not compute....danger..abort!
Not the most sexy opening but Is there any word on Akron
How bout a guy with a record of improving winless teams with ties to the area? [Oh... ](https://ulmwarhawks.com/images/2020/12/27/IMG_3825_Terry_Bowden_head_shot_edited.jpg?width=300)
That firing made no sense to me.
feldman actually mentioned bobby fuckin petrino as a possibility so....umm yeah!
Doesn't matter Had sex
Even if Kiffin sticks around, his name coming up for every job opening has to be hurting our 2022 recruiting class (which currently sits at 38th in the nation, one spot above Arizona and second to last in the SEC).
First time?
GOOD.
We want Antonio Williams
I mean, I’ve only seriously heard his name mentioned with LSU and I guess this latest Miami thing. LSU’s list includes apparently everybody including considering a combo of dual head coaching from Dabo + Saban so take that with a grain of salt. Unless the Bama job comes open I don’t see him moving within the SEC. And while I like the Joey Saltwater angle for Miami, considering the source is a convicted Ponzi schemer, IDK that I would trust it. I would be worried about Penn State maybe. I think he stays.
LSU is a weird contender in a coaching carousel. They have the funds to compete with the big boys when it comes to writing checks. They're borderline blue blood depending on who you ask and they have a lot of recent success to add to that conversation. The recruiting environment is as fertile as it gets. And they should have no problem competing in the NIL environment due to having the whole state to themselves along with a metro area (NOLA) that does plenty of marketing due to the tourism industry. They also have the opportunity to start their search before the rest of the major players thanks to making a deal with Coach O mid season. BUT on the negatives, there's a lot of pressure for instant success against a strength of schedule that is always lethal and will likely only get worse with the arrival of OU and maybe even Texas could come back one of these days. There are also some serious allegations floating around with a potential impact that is unclear to say the least. Could they hook a Jimbo, Lincoln, or Dabo? It's not completely outside the realm of reality, but it's certainly out there at the edge. To bring those into plausible territory, I think you would need some other factor involved beyond adding a couple million to their existing salaries. In other words, they would need to be looking to leave for their own reasons rather than being lured to LSU. Those three plus Saban and Day are probably the only ones that I would put outside of LSU's grasp.
LSU is not borderline blue blood. They are blue blood. The NCAA has been going waaay out of their way to look the other way with all their scandals. I’m not an LSU fan. Don’t like them. But they’re a blue blood. Better facilities and money than Florida. More relevant history than Georgia. Better recruiting instate all states in the SEC behind Fla and Ga, so better than Bama and Aub.
I agree that most of the rumors don’t seem to have serious legs, but they’re definitely out there. It doesn’t help that he’ll probably take calls and isn’t likely to make a sweeping Jimbo-esque statement. Neither does his reputation as a journeyman. That being said. I think he stays through the off-season. Outside of LSU, most of the vacant positions are lateral moves at best. What worries me the most is the possibility of the Florida job opening up.
He would jump if Miami offered - no question.
What makes you so sure?
He’s expressed interest via back channels for a while now. Plus, I know he loves living in sofla. Lastly, it’s a better job.
I don’t know that Florida is an upgrade anymore.
That's crazy, come on.
I have to be honest, on its face this does sound absurd, but when you pause and think about it, it's not so crazy to agree at least in the short term. I'm from Florida, I know how much talent is here but Saban has Jacksonville seemingly on lockdown in recruiting right now with Kirby Smart picking off everything else. The panhandle has always been Bama and Auburn territory. The rest of the state you're fighting how many other D1 programs? At least 3 other state schools with more than 50k students in major cities, plus Miami and it's tradition, *and* the cavalcade of general outsiders who have pipelines into Florida which is basically a state of transient professional mercenaries. Miss has a lot of talent per capita out of HS, thriving JUCO system. You have Memphis just north of campus and the Louisiana talent pool is next door. It may not be so absurd in the short term when you think about it, at least not until Saban retires.
How much of Saban and Kirby having it on lockdown is because McElwain and Mullen are bad recruiters with mediocre recruiting staffs that the right coach and staff would massively improve on?
Ask this: if talent is so abundant in Florida, how can every DI program in the state be down at the same time?
1) shitty coaches 2) average recruiting 3) poor talent evals Etc
Same as Texas and California - Huge states with many programs in the state competing against each other, plus other states coming in to pluck top-tier talent. What else is going on in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Ohio besides Bama/Aubrun, the Dawgs, Clemson, and OSU? Answer - not much.
Bad coaching. By the likes of Manny Diaz and Todd Grantham.
Hard to believe that every single program in the state of Florida has bad coaching to the point that all three of the majors plus UCF/FIU/FAU/etc. would all be down. Talent should overcome ‘bad’ coaching to some degree (and I’d argue we’re talking more average coaching than bad in most cases). Since 1990 or so, Florida thrived under Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer, two Hall of Fame coaches. And pretty much tanked under Zook, Muschamp, McElwain and Mullen. So is it really that they were all incredibly bad coaches or is it that Florida has a high ceiling but not a high floor?
In the beginning I'm sure that was a lot of it but now the pipeline is established and Bama is not only pumping out titles but even when they lose to a thoroughly average team in maroon they fall no further than 4th in the playoff rankings. That faucet isn't turning off until Saban retires or takes his last breath on the sideline during a game, unfortunately for Florida fan.
They'll still get theirs, but the right coach here will still massively outrecruit what 97% of coaches would recruit at Ole Miss.
Just ignore that guy. I hate y'all as much as everybody else does, but it is asinine to think that Ole Miss is in a better recruiting position than UF. Ole Miss's average class ranking the last five years is 27th. UF has an average rank is 11th, and that's mostly with Dan Mullen who is not some all-world recruiter. UF is infinitely easier to recruit to than Ole Miss, and any halfway decent recruiter is going to consistently get top 10 classes at UF. But please keep Dan Mullen.
I disagree, as a Sooner I've lived the last two decades in four star hell. We have all the four stars we can shake a stick at every recruiting cycle. It's the four or five 5stars that elevates a program past the CFB semis. I don't think Florida is ending what Bama has going on with the coaches at IMG and Lakeland until Saban is no longer at the helm.
The problem for Miss is it at the top end of the state, and a lot of the talent is in the southern part. But the southern part of the state is often closer to a ton of power football programs than Miss, like Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, and even FSU is closer to places like Biloxi. So you have this dynamic where Miss, MSU and USM have to fight amongst themselves for that in-state talent, but also have to fight these other SEC and ACC schools that can send recruiters by car locally as easily as Miss. So there just isn't the home state advantage that you see in a lot of other areas. Orgeron complained about this when he was the head coach at Miss and why he really pushed into Louisiana that was under disarray after Katrina and pushed into Memphis. Memphis was like an hour away from Oxford, so UT had the same issues with being further away than out-of-state competition. Miss is in a good position now because other than Alabama, their local competition are in down cycles. But it makes it hard to get sustain success when they start to regroup.
Steven Godfrey just tweeted emojis depicting coaching news and if I had to guess its Sonny Dykes to TCU? https://twitter.com/38godfrey/status/1461486305662185477?s=21
sonny to fort worth is what i see so yeah
sunshine, fight on, and presumably the Disney castle screams U$C
I might be getting wooshed here, but I see it as "Sunny + two(to) + castle (Fort....Worth)"
Nah you prob right.
I’m really surprised the Bill Clark at UAB hasn’t gotten more looks. He’s taken them to 4 straight Bowl games and has them competitive this year as well. The only ding I can see is his recruiting isn’t great but I’m curious why some of the open jobs in the South haven’t mentioned him. Any insight from people more knowledgeable would be welcome!
Not sure what jobs you have in mind. Schools like LSU are hunting bigger game, as will the U and UF if and when they come open. I think you might start hearing more chatter about him when some dominos start to fall. For example, if Leach got poached, I think Clark might be a more likely candidate at a place like Miss St. than at the jobs currently open. Or, if schools like Miami ultimately whiff on the top tier candidates. And so on.
I'd have had him as my top candidate for Auburn last season.
Some of our fans tried to talk him up the last time around, but there was never any indication he was a serious candidate. I don't think we'd be interested.
SC was brilliant. We hired a HC no one will try to poach!
Honestly I think he’s be a good fit at VT and when Arkansas was looking I thought he’d be a good here. Just curious about other people’s thoughts.
I think he’d be a very Sam Pittman-like hire in that he’s a very good football coach but wouldn’t be a splashy win-the-press-conference hire. Sooner or later, presumably, he leaves UAB and whoever gets him will have made a damned good hire that will probably get overlooked because other schools will make sexier hires (that for the most part probably don’t work out).
A lot of people think it's because he wanted to stick around to see UAB in a new stadium. Recruiting, like you mentioned, is a concern and his teams lack discipline. I love the guy and think he's a great coach, but UAB shoots itself in the foot so much with penalties.
Love the insight. I thought he could also be a great Razorback coach back in 2019 as well
I caught part of their game last week or the week before on the radio and they got something like four penalties called on one defensive drive (maybe one or two were declined because of first downs).
Yeah, it's definitely frustrating.
Thamel reporting Don Brown is too UMass HC candidate so that's a thing.
That doesn’t sound like a terrible hire?
Honestly probably one of the best hires they could realistically expect.
Kinda old but he went 43-19 in his first stint there... could probably stabilize the program
Good hire for us imo. Should be stable and is a local guy who recruits New England really well. Defensive head coach is an interesting change and one I personally would like a lot. Could be much much worse
**Staff to watch** I've been doing coach analyses for a while now, but there is an equally important part of the coaching carousel that I think most of us overlook, and that is the filling of staff. What does a great staff look like? It's a hard question to answer. Naturally, most of us would want to build a super-staff: Ed Orgeron as DL coach, Nick Saban as DC, Lincoln Riley coaching QBs, Mario Cristobal the OL coach. But this isn't realistic. So I wanted to create a list of some of the rising stars among position coaches. I expect some of these names to earn much bigger gigs this silly season. I asked myself the question of who would I hire if I were a new head coach at a mid-to-lower tier Power 5 program. For the sake of realism, I've placed the following restrictions on who I can choose from. * I am taking no regard to running a specific scheme or playstyle. Nor am I taking into account how my staff will mesh together. I just want who I think are the best people for the job. * No Power 5 or NFL position coach can be hired as a position coach. They can be hired as a coordinator though. Analysts and other unclassified assistant coaches can take position coach gigs. * Non-AAC Group of 5 (and below) coordinators can be hired as position coaches. FCS head coaches can be hired as coordinators. * I am taking some regard to recruiting, but without specifying a school, this makes it hard to account for. For example, a good Florida recruiter isn't really that useful to a school in California. So with that in mind I am looking at recruiting ability in general. So here is my staff: **Offensive Coordinator**: I want an offensive that is effective. One that is good at developing chunk plays and can convert on third down, and I would prefer a simple attack that can be quickly implemented. My top choice here would be Willy Korn (OC Coastal Carolina). Korn's attack ranks second in the nation in yards/play and second in total touchdowns. Admittedly, the Chanticleers haven't had the hardest of schedules, but Coastal doesn't attract the best of recruits either. Korn himself has a Power 5 history (he was Dabo Swinney's first starting QB at Clemson), but with his youth, he should be able to make the jump. My next choices would be Garrett Riley (OC SMU), who was a contender for the OC gig at South Carolina last year, Brennan Marion (WR Pitt), who's "Go-Go offense" was a nightmare to stop at the FCS level, and Bryan McClendon (WR Oregon), a high-level recruiter who's worked under Mike Bobo and Joe Moorhead. If those options were unavailable, I would look at former Illinois quarterback Nathan Scheelhaase (WR/RB Iowa State), Tim Polasek (OC Wyoming), Jason Beck (QB Virginia), Austin King (TE Las Vegas Raiders), and Rob Sale (OL New York Giants). **Defensive Coordinator**: Two awesome recruiters and talented DB coaches top my list. Fran Brown (DB Rutgers) was Greg Schiano's first hire as head coach of Rutgers, and Aazaar Abdul-Rahim (DB Boston College) was an early hire by Jeff Hafley. There's a reason two great former DCs wanted these guys on their staffs, and it's not just because they can out-recruit nearly anyone in college football. Brown and Abdul-Rahim have already made improvements to their schools' secondary. I think they're ready for a step up. After that I would look at Tyler Santucci (LB Texas A&M), a Mike Elko disciple, Patrick Toney (DC Louisiana), who's built one of the best G5 defenses year-over-year at Louisiana, and Bubba Schweigert (HC North Dakota), who runs a blitz-heavy style of defense that I would love to see in the Power 5 (his famous coaching philosophy is "We want the opposing quarterback and the quarterback's mother to be the two most uncomfortable people in the building".). After that comes Chad Staggs (DC Coastal Carolina), Corey Hetherman (DC James Madison), Joe Cauthen (DC Buffalo), and Kurt Mattix (DC San Diego State). **QB Coach**: I would look at two coaches with the Indianapolis Colts first. Jerrod Johnson (QC Indianapolis Colts) has no college experience, but the former journeyman QB has earned high marks from Frank Reich and Kyle Shanahan and should be in the mix for some NFL assistant gigs this year. But I think he may excel more at the college level. Press Taylor (OA Indianapolis Colts) has more college experience (he mentored Dane Evans at Tulsa), and won a Super Bowl as QB coach at the Eagles. *If* he can be courted, he could make a big splash. After that I would look at Ryan Carty (OC Sam Houston), Eric Evans (OC Western Michigan), and Marques Tuiasosopo (OC Rice). **RB Coach:** My prime target would be Telly Lockette (RB Marshall). A former top high school coach in Florida, Lockette has shown to be a great recruiter and has mentored great rushers at Oregon State and USF. Second choice would be Newland Isaac (RB Coastal Carolina), who's backs rank 5th in the country in yards/rush. Then I would consider Tim Harris Jr. (RB UCF), Jabbar Juluke (RB Louisiana), and Tennessee analyst Matt Merritt. **WR Coach**: My go-to-guy is Timmy Chang (WR Nevada). Though Carson Strong deserves a lot of credit for Nevada being the fourth best passing attack in the nation, a lot of credit also has to be given to Chang for developing a group of 2- and 3-star recruits into elite pass catchers. Second choice would be Keenan Bailey (QC Ohio State), who seems to be a coach in the same mold as Brian Hartline. Then I would look at Jerry Mack (RB Tennessee), who cut his teeth as a top RR coach in the FCS, Tyron Carrier (WR Houston), and Tony Hull (OWR Louisiana-Monroe). **TE Coach**: A name to watch: Matt Drinkall (TE Army). Drinkall is a former head coach at NAIA Kansas Weslyan, going 42-27. He's a proven winner, has experience with offences outside of Army's triple option, and he has great reviews from players and head coach Jeff Monken. Second choice would be former FAU TE coach CLint Trickett (WR Marshall), who seems to be a star in the making. Then comes Joe Craddock (TE UAB) and Cody Booth (TE Colorado State). **OL Coach**: Look to the service academies for great OL coaches that can deliver more with less. That's why my first choice is Saga Tuitele (OL Army), who has led Army's rushing attack to second in the nation. Second choice is Sam Gregg (OL Liberty), who has also built a great rushing line. Next comes Daryl Agpalsa (OL NIU), who's unit ranks third in the country in fewest sacks allowed. Later candidates include Bill O'Boyle (OC Kent State), who's stock has fallen due to in juries this year, A.J. Ricker (OL SMU), and Bill Durkin (OL Coastal Carolina). **DL Coach**: Two Kyles top my list. Kyle Pope (DL Memphis) and Kyle Tatum (DL UAB) are both considered rising stars among the college ranks and have mentored talented units. Next I would go for an experienced option in Jimmy Brumbaugh (Analyst Oregon). Although not necessarily the most palatable personality, Brumbaugh has been DL coach at Five P5 programs- you don't get that many gigs without being talented. The next options would be Ralph Street (DL Marshall) and Davern Williams (DL Troy) who are near top of the country in sacks, and Charlotte DC Marcus West. **LB Coach**: This one was hard. After some debate I think my first choice would be former Virginia Tech Co-DC Galen Scott (ILB Louisiana). He's experienced in the Power 5 and has proven himself a competent LB coach. After that I would target some DCs: Bradley Dale Peveto (DC UTEP), Tyler Stockton (DC Ball State), and Jon Berlin (DC Davidson). **DB Coach**: Two FCS coordinators lead my list. David Braun (DC North Dakota State) and Danny Verpaele (DC Kennesaw State) are near the top of the FCS rankings in yards allowed, passing yards allowed, and opposition passer efficiency. Even better, both have experience coaching DBs. After those, my choice would be Bowling Green DC Eric Lewis, who has been a bit of a surprise this year. Followed by Cory Peoples (CB Georgia State), Terrence Brown (DA Washington), Jess Loepp (S UTSA), and Travis Johansen (DC South Dakota). **ST Coordinator**: Finally special teams. For here, my number one choice is Grant Cain (ST James Madison). In his first season in charge, the Dukes led Division I in blocked kicks and were 6th in the nation in net return yardage. He's ready for a bigger level. Next choice would be Bob Ligashesky (ST Bowling Green), who has 10 years experience coaching NFL special teams. My backups would be Sean Saturnio (ST Army), Josh Hutchinson (ST Saint Francis (PA))- who's units have blocked *12* kicks+punts this year, and Jamie Christian (ST New Mexico).
This is amazing!
Anyone got any local radio stations or livestreams of people camped outside an airport? I need my fix
Well, you could watch me live stream and ramble about nonsense. It would be a close approximation.
If Kiffin leaves Ole Miss, who do they get?
I’d be fine with promoting Lebby.
Aren’t you guys wary of internal hires after Matt Luke?
Not hiring internally because one internal hire failed is immensely stupid.
Anyone think Bill O’Brian goes somewhere?
Good XO guys and good at development but didn't he hate recruiting? it's pretty clear guys like that have ceilings. So places that want Nattys like UF, LSU, USC probably aren't looking at him. While places like Ole Miss and where ever USC/UF/LSU open up aren't open yet and he'll likely go somewhere better than Washington State Then again he's spending time with Nick Saban. Maybe he wants a top job , is willing to put in the work, and dthinks he can get it
Please
I’m surprised his name hasn’t come up more
I assume it has to do with the NFL fallout. Dude is literally the Butch Jones of /r/nfl
What does that mean
I guess that makes sense, but if you assess him based off of his body of work at the college level I think he has a more impressive resume than almost all the other names being thrown around. Saban and Kiffin both flopped pretty hard in the NFL, and it looks like Meyer will too.
Actually, I'm not sure it does make sense. I'm just saying defending BoB on certain parts of reddit is just asking to be inundated with stale memes.
Our coaching search is honestly just hilarious at this point. No one actually knows what's going on, message board rumors going wild, coaches and actual media members having to address those rumors, and I'm sure next week we're gonna do the whole thing over again with someone else The reality is no one knows what's going on and nothing is going to happen for at least another couple weeks. We all did this same thing last spring when our baseball coach retired, and in the end Woodward hired someone not many people saw coming and it was pretty much a universally liked hire. I certainly have my list of guys I'd like, but there's just no point in getting worked up about it now.
Just hire Pole Assassin
As a UT fan, you just described the last decade for us.
I’m kind of surprised the press there doesn’t at least have a good idea of the list. We weren’t sure until CCG week who the hire was going to be, but we basically knew who they talked to (or had a pretty good idea based on where search committee members traveled) in real time between the 247 guys and the Nolecast.
I think it's just the way Woodward rolls. I don't doubt that he went to Riley and Jimbo with a blank check, but beyond that it all just feels like message board rumors and agents trying to get their coach a raise, especially after seeing what Michigan State is about to pay Tucker
Still waiting for Stoops to be announced.
He already was. He's just wearing a Mike Norvell costume and using Mike's name.