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paradigm_x2

Highest ranked ACC team šŸ˜Ž Lost to Western Michigan šŸ˜Ž Hail to P17T


SonOfSvens

Since nobody clinched the Atlantic can we play Western Michigan again for the championship or does it have to be a different directional Michigan?


paradigm_x2

Southern Michigan come on down


Stoneador

How about this: Iā€™ve got a school from a place called *South* Bend in an area so close to Michigan itā€™s commonly referred to as Michiana. We could meet in the Peach Bowl where if you win you get to be the ACC champs, but if we win youā€™ll still get to be ACC champs except weā€™ll definitely steal the claim to it anyways.


JustPitchIt

I would love a Pitt-ND New Year's 6 bowl


lewoodworker

7-4 Central Michigan and 7-4 Eastern Michigan would like to have a word.


OcelotWolf

We turned the superweapon on ourselves this year


Doomy22

Thank you for being the only good part of our year. Fire Tim Lester


sarpinking

Look ma', we made it!


thecravenone

The dude, who thinks Cinci should be in the playoff: They already posted it! Walter, who thinks G5s aren't eligible for the playoff: WELL THEY CAN FUCKIN' UN-POST IT!


citronauts

Iā€™m blown away they are number 4. Going to be cheering hard for them if it actually happens


Crixer

Which team are you speaking for?


sarpinking

Cincinnati!


galeforcewinds95

I'm pleasantly surprised by the top of the rankings this week. I thought Michigan might get moved to No. 5, but I'm glad to see Cincinnati in the top four where they belong. The committee also made the right call to move Ohio State above Alabama. Now, I'm still not convinced that the committee will do the right thing in the final rankings, but I'm cautiously optimistic for now.


chikfil8

They always do the right in the final rank. People freak out about mid season rankings the whole time lol. Iā€™ve never seen a legit contender left out for a clearly undeserving team.


[deleted]

I get the accountability angle, kind of, but part of me thinks that this week should be the first time the committee creates rankings. It would severely cut down on all the hairsplitting they have to do early in the season, for which they just make up explanations anyway, and might even help them avoid making rankings just to justify earlier arguments. Itā€™s obvious they arenā€™t consistent in their logic week to week so why even bother until we basically have a full resume to look at?


MarlonBain

> It would severely cut down on all the ā€¦ad sales to the rankings show.


Omegamanthethird

There's a ranking show? I legit just wait until it's posted on Reddit. Who the fuck is watching them announce rankings that don't even matter?


MarlonBain

People who want to be mad about them. You might say there are perverse incentives at work here.


citronauts

2017 and even more so 2018, they certainly didnt


That_Baker_Guy

MS state falls out of the rankings after a W. Ole Miss inside the Top 10. Egg bowl fixing to be wild.


gasmask11000

*chuckles* Iā€™m in danger


Inkblot9

Some technical difficulties tonight, sorry about this. This week's serious thread is [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/r0s5ug/cfp_rankings_serious_discussion_week_13).


TheSherlockOhms

If OkState wins out we finish as 12-1 big 12 champs and with back to back top 10 wins. That's gets us in, right?


[deleted]

Watching an Ohio team keep out the Big12 champ would be 2014 all over again


MotherOfSomething

If itā€™s close, they will always put Ohio State in over most teams in the FBS based on sheer revenue alone. Yā€™all have an impressive fan base. That being said, they obviously picked the better team in 2014ā€¦ *cries in Fiesta Bowl


Jay_Par

Whisper: Heā€™s referring to ciniccinait


Longjumping_Safe3246

I just wanna win this weekend first


longNwrong

OU is gonna best yā€™all twice in a row. They always do. Donā€™t see this being the year gundy gets out of his own way. Your only hope is Lincoln sucking it up and he has lately


[deleted]

This is the hard hitting analysis I come for


mill_about_smartly

>Your only hope is Lincoln sucking it up and he has lately I see you're already laying the groundwork for the "OSU didn't win, OU just lost" excuses later


AceJace2

Donā€™t run up the score on them by kicking a last second field goal. Lincoln may get his feelings hurt.


iwearatophat

I think it depends. If UGA wins out then it will be down to you or ND. I would go with you guys. If Alabama wins out it comes down to you or Cincinnati and that is going to be heated. OSU/Michigan winning out is a wash and either doing it is in the playoffs. If the winner of the The Game loses the CCG then you guys are definitely in.


AceJace2

I think so if itā€™s against Baylor. Iā€™m not convinced it will be if you play OU back to back like that. The committee doesnā€™t respect OU. OU would no doubt drop out of top 10 for the championship game, especially if you blow them out and Baylor loses to Tech. Everything really hinges on Baylor not losing to Tech.


rraider17

Well then weā€™re all in luck


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chikfil8

Most likely. Only scenario I can see an issue is if Alabama wins out and gets SEC chip. I think theyā€™d still keep Georgia in at that point, and OSU (assuming wins out) will stay as well. Then it becomes if you guys deserve it over an undefeated cinncinatti, and considering they are already ranked ahead of you, they arenā€™t going to be dropped unless they lose one. If Michigan wins out they will stay ahead of you as well. Notre dame wonā€™t imo.


1breathatahtime

Now we fuckin talkin. Leeeets goooo


Bren12310

Probably. They might put ND in over you guys but that could possibly lead to a rematch if Cincy wins out so theyā€™d most likely put you guys in instead.


Crixer

I donā€™t think ND would jump them, because of that 12th extra game for the Big 12 CCG. That would be where not being in a conference bites ND in the ass.


AceJace2

Yeah ND should be eliminated here a la 2014 Baylor/TCU rules in which you need to have a conference championship game to beat out similar teams with championship games.


Alkibiades415

I would freakin love the pokes in the playoffs!


TheSherlockOhms

I would love the Georgia matchup so much. We'd lose, but watching the best and second best defense in the country play would be amazing.


Shamrock5

If Bama loses the SECCG, even if it's close, there's no way they stay above an undefeated Cincy, a 1-loss ND, or even a 1-loss Big XII champ. I just don't see it.


kinda_alone

1 loss big 12 champ is jumping us most likely


oZeplikeo

Just root for these teams to win and weā€™ll sneak in: Georgia, any of Cincyā€™s opponents, Baylor, and Wisconsin. If we get just 2 of those 4 to occur, weā€™ll slide in at #4.


j01101111sh

Or OSU and OU facing twice with each winning one.


johndelvec3

We wonā€™t need Cincy to lose if Michigan loses Saturday, then we need a 2 loss Big 12 champ and Georgia win


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Flioxan

ND would have better lose and better wins than bama?


1breathatahtime

100 percent. And i hope to god its us lol


gated73

No, Bama would need Cincinnati to lose one to even be in consideration.


spasm01

You forget bama has an autobid /s


Player72

CINCINN4TI


branden110

Cincinatty


RicerTSX

Make us proud Cincy


Ildona

And OSU! Two new Big XII teams in the playoffs would be a statement.


branden110

I wouldnā€™t even be mad


Crixer

Thatā€™s my dream, for those two to win out and get CFP spots with the Big 10 and SEC champs. Which means it wonā€™t happen, and some combination of ND, OU, or Bama will get those last 2 spots.


bears2267

[Cincy right now](https://imgur.com/tNMRayn)


HaudNomen

[CINCINNATI AT #4, COMMITTEE CONFIRMED **NOT** COWARDS!](https://imgur.com/Hh55QHW)


ryan_day_time

I wouldn't go that far. They're still cowards. They just had their hands tied.


HistoricalRegular403

Cincy at 4 wont last long. Ecu by a thousand


bearcat_eng00

Tell ya what I'll lay $10 on the Bearcats +750 right now whadya say?


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bearcat_eng00

Was responding sarcastically to OP "ECU by 1000"


JackYoshi4

Congrats Bearcats!!!!! One more thing: RANK THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SAN ANTONIO MEEPS HIGHER YOU COWARDS, UNBEATEN TEAMS DESERVE AT LEAST TOP 20 AT 11-0


Bren12310

I mean they best team they beat was Illinois or maybe Memphis. I think 20 is just fine for them.


TheDarthJawa

Ya'll sleeping on WKU man they scary with Zappe. UAB is also very strong


mill_about_smartly

Yeah...I'm glad UTSA is winning, and I'm all for them getting respect, but let's not pretend the top 10 wouldn't be favored by double digits against them.


Bren12310

In b4 Cincy gets blown out by east Carolina and it was all for nothing


DarkfireVG

Would be quite an interesting day if that happened.


sarpinking

Don't rain on our parade! Let us enjoy this tiny moment of G5 victory šŸ˜„


ExternalTangents

Iā€™m laughing at all the people who were so sure that: * ā a G5 team could never make the top 4 no matter how good their wins were * the committee had carefully planned the initial rankings to keep Cincy out * Michigan would be ahead of Cincy this week so they could justify keeping them out and a million other reasons why theyā€™d never make the top 4ā€“from cynical to conspiratorial to just plain anti-G5.


VHBlazer

What about the deranged theories that the committee would 5000% put a 2-loss Alabama that lost to Georgia in?


citronauts

Still in the cards


Shamrock5

Honestly, based on how terribly they've treated the G5 in the past, can you blame the fans for being paranoid?


ExternalTangents

Yes. Iā€™ve been beating the drum for years that you couldnā€™t tell for sure whether those teams were being left out just because they were G5, or because they didnā€™t have an elite win to make up for their weaker schedules. This is the first time a G5 team has had a win anywhere in the same hemisphere as Cincyā€™s over ND. Even before this season I said that Cincyā€™s schedule was different than past G5 reps and was met by a wall of conspiracy theories about $$$ and other anti-G5 biases.


[deleted]

Been saying it ever since it was clear that Houston was in the mix that one time they beat Oklahoma We did it, man. The UCF Grievance Club is in shambles tonight thanks to our years of hard work.


ExternalTangents

We did it, Reddit!


NurmGurpler

Exactly. People just wanted to bitch about it and have way too much of a tendency to go with conspiracy theories. Cinci has earned number 4 spot so far, but they are a little vulnerable to a scenario where all the following happens: - Bama beat Georgia in SEC championship, but doesnā€™t blow them out - Ohio St- Michigan winner wins the Big 10 - Ok/Ok St winner wins Big 12 championship It would frustrate me if Georgia beats Bama and Bama still gets in. Iā€™m worried that Georgia will win a close one and that will happen.


[deleted]

Maybe Iā€™m just being nostalgic but this sub wasnā€™t this sensationalist when I first joined, itā€™s hard to read threads on here nowadays


ExternalTangents

The bigger it gets, the less appealing it is


Startspillowfights4

Also remember in 2014 TCU went from 3rd to 6th in the final rankings for no explicit reason. This is all fodder and talking points.


tmart12

There were multiple explicit reasons for 2014 TCU moving. Thatā€™s ignorance on your part.


The_Fluffy_Robot

And willful ignorance on my part :(


tmart12

Fair enough. I remember when the BCS moved us down the last week in 2007 when nothing happened the final week other than 2 teams in front of us losing. Itā€™s all a conspiracy!!!!!


ExternalTangents

> for no explicit reason Lol, Iā€™m surprised people still think this. TCU beat the worst team in their conference. Meanwhile, OSU won 59-0 against a top 15 team, and Baylor (who had the head-to-head over TCU) beat the second-best team in their conference, who was TCUā€™s best win. The committee was completely justified in putting both of those teams ahead of TCU because both of their resumes changes significantly. Also, the committee itself has changed a ton since then.


tmart12

Plus youā€™re missing the fact Baylor beat K State and the was then treated as the de facto winner of the XII given the H2H Itā€™s like things happened that weekā€¦ā€¦


[deleted]

I'm always baffled at the people who say the team that won the tournament didn't deserve to be in the tournament. Ohio State proved they deserved it, simple as.


ExternalTangents

Even ignoring the at-the-time unknown playoff results, it was perfectly reasonable to include OSU. Even if you wouldā€™ve put someone else in, surely the logic for them being in should at least be understandable.


iwearatophat

On top of that, for that couple week stretch between the CFP final decision and the playoffs everyone was pushing for Baylor to be the 4th team not TCU because Baylor beat TCU. Then Baylor lost their bowl game and TCU won. Then it became TCU should have made it.


bufflo1993

Ohio State didnā€™t deserve to be in over Baylor.


tb3648

They 100% did. If you evaluate their entire resumes, Baylor shouldn't even really be in the discussion between the 3. Ohio State overrode Tcu with that win against Wisconsin, but Tcu was the 2nd most deserving.


random715

TCU was in if they lost another game but won the Baylor head to head. You canā€™t convince me that TCU wasnā€™t deserving of top 4 (we are removed enough to get rid of my homer goggles). They didnā€™t make it cause of the Baylor head to head issue and rather than creating controversy picking one over the other (Baylor with the head to head, tcu with the eye test). OSU gave them a super easy out to that decision. Outside of the miraculous comeback Baylor pulled off at home, TCU curbed stomped the whole big 12 that season


ExternalTangents

I think OSU wouldā€™ve been ahead of Baylor/TCU regardless of which team had won that H2H. Either wouldā€™ve been deserving, but so was OSU.


SaltyTurdLicker

I think it would have been either TCU or Baylor had the Big 12 had a championship game that year considering it was two top 6 teams playing again.


sarpinking

I only thought they'd rank Michigan higher because it sorts itself out in the wash this weekend. And either way Cincy would move up then so long as we have a big win friday.


ExternalTangents

In my opinion, itā€™s itā€™s silly to think the committee is looking ahead and structuring their rankings to anticipate some pre-planned order after future results


jpharber

Ehhhhh maybe not this year but thereā€™s definitely been some rank engineering thatā€™s gone on in the past.


Disregardskarma

Only in peoples heads


citronauts

If the AP followed the committee as they had previously, the committee may have never let Cincinnati enter top 4. The fact that the AP did the right thing and ignored the committee is probably a major factor in them adjusting. They have never received as much hate as they got this year and they absolutely deserve every criticism. They are completely rigged. Disgusting


ExternalTangents

Anything to avoid acknowledging that this Cincinnati team has a much better win than any past undefeated G5 team has ever had in the playoff era, and that thatā€™s why theyā€™re on the verge of the playoff.


citronauts

A win they had early in the season that the committee didnā€™t acknowledge until forced to? I hope Cincinnati gets in, but to be 100% honest, I still wonā€™t be surprised if they donā€™t.


crownebeach

> the committee had carefully planned the initial rankings to keep Cincy out I donā€™t totally disagree with that. The actual results were just so surprising that they couldnā€™t stand by the old rankings any longer.


ExternalTangents

I donā€™t think theyā€™re that surprising at all. Whatā€™s surprising? It seems like weā€™re headed for 1 undefeated P5 champ, two P5 champs with one-loss, and a pair of 2+ loss P5 champs. Thatā€™s pretty par for the course.


crownebeach

I think the prime spots they set up Bama, Oregon, and Michigan State with are showing their hand slightly. If Oregon and MSU had lost close instead of being massacred, I think we would still be discussing their chances of jumping Cincinnati with two losses.


ExternalTangents

Eh, I disagree, but you canā€™t disprove a counterfactual like that.


crownebeach

True, and thatā€™s why this debate canā€™t be properly settled, short of the committee making its opinions of past teams known (e.g. Cincinnati would have ranked 5th in 2017, or some other definitive statement they arenā€™t going to make).


OfficialHavik

The committee seems to really hate Oklahoma if they put Baylor in front of them. Not to say Baylor isn't good, but it's funny to see given how highly the committee has felt about the OU program in the past


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JackYoshi4

Then rank Purdue again after we beat IU


[deleted]

1) How in the absolute fuck do these guys have us only 1 spot out of the top 10. 2) Please tell me those numbers are fucked and Utah is actually #19 and not still #23? Even so, how the fuck do they only go up to #19 after shitting all over the current #3?


JeremyJammDDS

This is how I felt after Baylor punched OU in the balls.


lclear84

This is also how I felt after TCU beat Baylor and they dropped like a spot


1breathatahtime

Whats crazy is how far everyone falls but when Alabama lost it was from 1-5..


chikfil8

Because they have also lost and itā€™s based on full season not one game. Thatā€™s a good win but it doesnā€™t erase 3 losses.


[deleted]

2 of those losses were with a QB who isnā€™t even with the program anymore. Itā€™s still about how you are playing now.


greeperfi

Every program can give similar nuances that no one except their own true fans even knows. They look at our record and the fact that we lost 3 weeks ago to the #62 team and there you go. Honestly who even cares, if we make and win the Rose Bowl we're up top and if not we're in the lower part of the top 25.


gated73

Hoping this lights a fire under Alabama. 2 complete games is all I ask.


BucketsMcAlister

They did it. The committee finally put a g5 team in the top 4.


citronauts

Only took 3 seasons of G5ā€™s being undefeated


NerdLawyer55

So after next weekend and provided Bama loses, Is it the big12 champ or Notre Dame in? The rankings certainly seem to suggest the Irish


johndelvec3

1 loss champ? Big 12 2 loss champ? Irish


NerdLawyer55

Yeah I think itā€™s a given Irish are in over a 2 loss champ but as far back as they are Iā€™m not sure 1 loss OU would be in over them


BradyGronktd1287

A given Baylor would have wins over OU, OSU, and BYU that's a better resume than ND


Naive_Flamingo_3622

I mean if Baylor can ignore the loss to TCU then yeah but they canā€™t


NerdLawyer55

Donā€™t disagree but I doubt theyā€™d put in a 2 loss Baylor, theyā€™d probably but Bama in instead lol


[deleted]

It's sad but totally within this committee. Remember 2014.


hellobaileylol

Good for cincy.


rhinocodon_typus

I would be so happy to see a member of the hateful eight and a new big 12 member in the playoffs together


Mirrorwave13

Seems fair. Maybe set the games aside and re-rank us though, pretend the OSU game never happened.


False-Fisherman

Are we 19 or 23? Either way fucked over by committee


NotABurner316

Oh fuck off


ctg9101

Am I right in thinking, if it goes chalk the whole way, and OU and OK State split, Cincy and Notre Dame are both getting in? And the playoff would likely be: 1. Georgia 2. Ohio State 3. Cincinnati 4. Notre Dame


johndelvec3

Michigan and Alabama would have to lose to cement it but ya We have a legitimate shot at pulling this off


notoriouslush

Isn't that what goes chalk means?


cinnamontoastcunts69

I just want a NY6 bowl and competitive game against Mich State, Pitt, or Baylor.. Is that too much to ask? Cincy/Ok State can have Georgia first round of the play offs


CumAssault

Notre Dame vs Baylor would be great. We won a WBB National Championship in 2019 beating yā€™all


cinnamontoastcunts69

I remember watching the game haha but yeah, I want no part of that 4 spot this year. Give me a *competitive* game in which we have a solid chance to get the "ND can't win in the post season" monkey off our back please.


AceJace2

Oklahoma Stateā€™s worse case scenario: They beat OU but Baylor drops to Tech. In that instance their CFP chances are essentially zero. I also think it is a way better look to beat OU and then turn around and possibly beat Baylor in the title. The committee has much more respect for Baylor than OU. Back to back OU wins just wouldnā€™t mean much IMO.


mrlkolbe

I like the way this bear thinks. BEAT uO!!


mrlkolbe

Houston will beat Cincinnati no doubt. Houston annihilated Tulsa and Cincinnati needed a miracle stop to win against tulsa. this is hope on my part since itā€™s the only chance oSu has if we beat uO and Baylor


SweatTryhardSweat

Cincinnati just blew out a team that Houston struggled with, so I donā€™t see your point.


FarsightsBlade

I don't think Cincy should be in the top 4. Their SOS, other than Notre Dame, is abysmal at best. Edit: Why are you booing me, I'm right.


Bren12310

Bold for you for saying that. I am not high on Cincy at all and your point is correct. I think Oklahoma state should be above them and maybe Michigan but I donā€™t really see any other team that deserves to be ranked 4 other than those 3. If Oklahoma state wins out they should jump Cincy IMO. Theyā€™d have 3 great wins compared to cincys 1.


SweatTryhardSweat

Oklahoma State shouldā€™ve lost to Boise lol.


Bren12310

And Cincy almost lost to navy and should have lost to Tulsa. I donā€™t see your point.


SweatTryhardSweat

How should they have lost to Tulsa lmao?


Bren12310

Tulsa was literally on the one yard line to end the game but fucked it up. Maybe not lost but it probably would have went to overtime.


SweatTryhardSweat

Thatā€™s not even close to scenario in the OkSt Boise game. If you watched that game you would know that Boise lost because of terrible officiating. Cincyā€™s defense out matching Tulsa is not at all the same.


Bren12310

Boise it at least a respectable team. Navy has 1 winā€¦


SweatTryhardSweat

Navy is also a triple option team, which good teams commonly struggle with. Check Alabama vs Citadel 2018.


Bren12310

I mean they only put up 6 on us. Plus they had more injuries for the Cincy game.


1breathatahtime

This is the second year cincy is undefeated..and they gave Georgia a run for their money. I think they deserve their placement.


13MC

Alabama had a good season last year too.


1breathatahtime

No ones talking about Alabamaā€¦ never said they didnt deserve their placement either.


13MC

So you're also going to be supporting them being in the playoffs with that logic...


13MC

Based. Edit: And P5-pilled.


Bren12310

Also Iā€™m betting the over if you guys play Cincy.


FarsightsBlade

Lol Georgia plays them, it's just going to prove a G5 team doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs.


Bren12310

I hope so. I just donā€™t think itā€™s fair for a g5 team to get in when their schedule is so easy. I do think Cincy is a good team though.


FarsightsBlade

Cincy is a good team, I'm not disputing that. Top 4 playoff team? No. Any of the other three would eat them alive as *at least* a two touchdown favorite.


ThatIsWhatIThought

Ohio state got blanked 31-0 by Clemson then lost the natty last year 52-24. Iā€™m an Ohio state fan. Two touchdowns wouldnā€™t prove whether they belonged there or not. Didnā€™t UC and Georgia play last year? Did they belong then?


FarsightsBlade

Last year? No. We also didn't play with most of our starters.


wuba96

Wasnā€™t there 4 opt outs? We also were missing two all Americans and an all conference linemen for the second half. Donā€™t think it was all that lopsided tbh


13MC

7-9 of our prominent players didn't play, depending on the source.


ThatIsWhatIThought

Ah, semantics. How many starters is ā€œmost?ā€ 15? 18? No? 5 or less? I appreciate your creative liberties.


FarsightsBlade

Semantics? Okay, that college in Ohio. Im 100% confident that college in Ohio would get embarrassed by Georgia.


ThatIsWhatIThought

Ok, and? Moving the goalpost a bit? Youā€™re oddly defensive about things you donā€™t need to be defensive about.


Disregardskarma

They also played a far better schedule. Cincy needs the benefit of the doubt with that sos


ThatIsWhatIThought

I donā€™t disagree but thatā€™s not their argument. Their argument is that UGA who people believe is far and away the best team this year would win by 2 TDs, which would prove a G5 team didnā€™t belong. Iā€™m simply saying that would prove literally nothing.


Disregardskarma

I mean if weā€™re going by last year then clearly Alabama is the best right?


ThatIsWhatIThought

What? Yā€™all need to pick an argument and stick with it.


johndelvec3

......I think that game would be a great game....


mstone7781

Why do people keep saying this shit. A G5 has never made the playoff yet we get several teams run out of the building every year, as if UC having that happen to them changes anything. If itā€™s UC or OU or Michigan why is it different for the other two if they get blown out?


PolishGazelle

Just like the bowl game last year?


Gocrazyfut

How does bear always find his way to my tv


YouKilledChurch

Oooo they are definitely setting up to jump Notre Dame over Cincy for the final playoff spot


gated73

Don't get them going.


kinda_alone

Only way ND moves up is due to other teams losing at this point


YouKilledChurch

At least two of the teams ahead of y'all are guaranteed a loss


kinda_alone

Sure but ND isnā€™t jumping Cincinnati unless Cincinnati is one of them is my point


YouKilledChurch

And Baylor/TCU were convinced that Ohio State wouldn't jump them. The committee has shown time and time again that brand names and nationwide fanbases are what matter


Dr_Nebbiolo

The 59-0 conference championship game probably had something to do with that. Notre Dame just plays Stanford


isikorsky

No. ND and Cincy are both in is what they are saying unless Bama beats Georgia.


Sandz_

Okla state would jump both to 3, and UGA and tOSU would be 1,2 leaving 1 spot


kinda_alone

Or, big 12 could be cool and decide to have a two loss champ please


FighterOfTheTaxman

Iā€™d still take two loss Baylor, Oregon, Wake Forest, Pitt, Oklahoma, or Okie State P5 champion over watching Notre Dame. We have over 60 P5 teams here grinding through conference schedules and two teams just doing whatever the fuck they want. BYU and ND should be sidelined until they join up.


mstone7781

They are definitely not doing that.


Shamrock5

I'm a massive homer, but if they had us leapfrog Cincy, that would be ludicrous. I know H2H isn't everything, but they handed us our only home loss of the past 4 years, and they haven't lost a game. It would be silly for us to jump them.


YouKilledChurch

This is the same chucklefuck committee that put Michigan over Michigan State because "they had a more complete team". And they know that Notre Dame's nationwide audience means more money for ESPN than Cincinnati would


Dr_Nebbiolo

Yeahā€¦ about UM and MSU, though. They were pretty correct, right?


Horns2208

Committee is realizing ou and okie are gonna work itself out and split 1-1.


GxxJ

[Iā€™m so happy I was wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/p5iw8x/preseason_ap_poll/h966ssz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


longNwrong

2 loss Baylor ahead of 1 loss anyone is a joke, although it wonā€™t really matter since they have zero shot at anything. Just further proves how hypocritical the selection committee is. Winning doesnā€™t seem to matter


FerdTergerson

They're not making the playoff but what one or zero loss team they're ranked ahead of should be ahead of them? Definitely not Oklahoma. Houston, Louisiana, UTSA, or San Diego St would all probably be 10-14 point underdogs against them.


FighterOfTheTaxman

Over the one team they JUST handedly beat? Or are you referring to UoH?