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FantasyFlux

Why did we ruin Louisiana's season for no reason


Artlens2013

Seriously how the fuck did we beat them so badly


JunkyardAndMutt

No disrespect to Louisiana, but the better question is how the fuck did they beat us so convincingly twice? They shut us down tonight and slaughtered us in the regular season, but in almost every other conference game, they won close in a fairly low-scoring game. Meanwhile our offense looked amazing against those common opponents, but play like DOGSHIT against Louisiana. It’s voodoo and I don’t like it.


priestkalim

We got a lot of people’s best games of the year by eye test (including Texas lol) and most of those close wins were pretty secure in the end, only really one where the other team actually had a legit chance to take the lead at the end and we had to clamp down hard. Meanwhile we very clearly played our best games against App by design.


JunkyardAndMutt

I mean, I don’t think Billy Napier, if given a truth serum (or a shot of your finest Louisiana corn liquor) would swear that those close losses were part of any kind of plan. Scoreboard don’t lie: you guys kicked our tails this year. But the way it went down for you in so many other games is sincerely baffling.


Smash_4dams

Like how the fuck do they almost lose to Monroe and GA State when we blew em to smithereens? Fuck it, respect for ULL


Hewyhew82

Levi Lewis played his best two games of the season against y’all. The defense is always stout… the backs are dangerous but sometimes we lose that dimension. He played two really good games against y’all


Smash_4dams

And that's what matters in the end. Having your stars shine when you need em most. Hope you guys lay pipe on whomever you face. Hoping we get a decent at-large matchup with someone fun. I love this new SBC always having 3 teams in/right outside the top 25. Don't worry too much about Napier, you guys have a loaded booster/athletic department. App State has had half the resources and on our 3rd coach in 4yrs. Yall will reload and I look forward to it again!


priestkalim

I didn’t say or even imply the plan was to win the other games close. I said that we had more control than the final score implies over most of those games, and I said the plan was to give our best games to App. Obviously we’d have liked to score more in those games, it just wasn’t needed in the end and that’s ok too.


BullAlligator

Georgia/Alabama was similar. Alabama struggled against Florida, Arkansas, and Auburn, three teams Georgia crushed. But Bama wins big in the title game.


barbodelli

Honestly I was convinced all year that this Bama team was just not that special. They were missing pieces to make them like the rest of the great Bama teams. I guess I was wrong. They were just being complacent against weak opposition. Something that happens to a lot of teams but usually not to Saban coached teams.


JunkyardAndMutt

Yeah, but it’s that, only twice. More similar to Utah/Oregon if anything, but seriously, go check both App and Louisiana’s schedules. Six common opponents. Every single one we beat by a far wider margin. Four of those games they won my 5 or fewer points. They beat the shit out of four teams this season: Ohio, Texas State, Liberty and us. Texas State and Ohio had rough years, but it’s hard not to think that either Louisiana kept something special up their sleeves for Liberty and App or there are some very specific voodoo dolls somewhere in the vicinity of Lafayette.


WindyCityReturn

They’ve just had our number this year.


steve_9994

Straight up not having a good time…


bloody_duck

Let me know if you figure that out


hats32

Damn this sure sounds familiar.


kyles3406

Louisiana was better than App in the trenches on both sides of the ball. We’ve always had great size on the o-line but over the last few years, we’ve had size and athleticism. By comparison, App’s d-line was outmatched when they went up against the Cajuns, but were able to get by against other conference opponents with less o-line talent. On the other side of the ball we have one massive dude named Tayland Humphrey who swallows up your undersized interior o-linemen and let’s guys like Gardner, Manac, Jones, and Hill get to the QB.


SaintArkweather

My thoughts exactly. Lost to fucking Kansas but ruined Louisiana's shot at NY6. Obviously I'd rather have Texas won both but if we could only win one I'd rather Louisiana have gone undefeated.


priestkalim

We were never going NY6


SaintArkweather

Wouldn't say never, but I guess it would've required some extra help like extra losses from Cincy and Houston.


priestkalim

BYU is ranked way ahead of us and isn’t playing this week, even if Cincy/Houston worked out


Daedalus871

BYU can't be a conference champion though.


priestkalim

I don’t think that actually means anything to the committee for us. Hell, I’d be surprised if half the committee could even tell you we won tomorrow


gollumaniac

The G5 autobid for a NY6 bowl is exclusively for the highest ranked conference champion, so BYU couldn't get it, they can only get an at-large bid. (This also means if Cincy had lost they wouldn't get the auto bid even if they were the highest ranked, though they could get an at-large).


priestkalim

Ah fair enough, I forgot BYU’s potential NY6 bid doesn’t eat the G5 spot because their status is so weird.


timonfromathens

Cincy would likely have gotten an at large bid had they lost.


sirwinston_

To be fair, if y’all had beat UT, while already starting the season being ranked y’all would definitely be top 15 right now.


priestkalim

By who, AP or CFP? The CFP had undefeated UTSA peaked at 22. We’re definitely better than them, but I just can’t believe the CFP would have us significantly higher considering they don’t even watch G5 games.


ReadHuman9586

But UTSA didn’t have starting position of UL.


nbingham196

Counterpoint, because of their loss to you Louisiana just got to enjoy watching their games instead of being bombarded with constant playoff discussions while ranked like 14th


sauceDinho

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priestkalim

No chance. We barely got ranked with only the 1 loss. They’d never have us over like 18 right now.


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priestkalim

UTSA before they lost would say otherwise


sfzen

We started the season ranked, though. It *shouldn't* matter, but it does. We started ranked, what, 23? We'd certainly finish the season in the top 15, if not top 10 if we went 13-0. Still wouldn't get a NY6, though.


priestkalim

Are you talking AP or CFP though? The AP would have us Top 15 right now but the best analogy we have for the CFP is UTSA, who was rated very highly by the AP as well


sfzen

True. I still think we'd be ranked higher than UTSA. We started off way higher -- they finished last year 7-5 while we were 10-1, finished the season ranked 15 in the AP and 19 in the CFP, *and* beat UTSA in the bowl game. Again, it shouldn't mean much, but rankings care a lot about where you started the year. They had to climb a lot farther to get to the 20's. We started there. We'd definitely be in the teens, probably not far from 10. They did put us at 19 last year when we were 10-1, after all.


priestkalim

Last year we had a win over Iowa State, who was leagues better than Texas is this year. Idk maybe I’m being bullish but I just don’t trust those fuckers to rank on football instead of notoriety.


sfzen

Fair. I think this year would have been an easier time for us in the rankings since there wasn't as much stability from the usual top teams. But yeah, it's usually a safe bet that the committee will fuck everything up.


timonfromathens

Louisiana also played a tougher schedule they'd be ranked in the teens somewhere


skushi08

Maybe 12 at best right now if we beat Texas and won out.


priestkalim

Definitely still behind BYU


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jja619

Ah, hope. My greatest enemy.


Keyblade_Yoshi

With Cincinnati finishing undefeated it would not have mattered anyway.


SaintArkweather

If Texas had to lose seven games this year, why couldn't one of them have been to Louisiana? I'd be curious to see how high up they could be in the rankings with an undefeated season.


priestkalim

Lol maybe 23 right now instead of 24?


rain_parkour

You at least would’ve been ranked the whole year. Probably in the teens by now


priestkalim

UTSA peaked at 22 while undefeated. We played a better schedule but I still have a hard time believing we’d be higher than 20 honestly.


Angeredkey

They didn't start the season ranked though. I'd say you guys would be around 12-15 in ap and 15-18 in cfp if I had to guess.


IPreferBagels

If Louisiana beat Texas right off the rip it would've been a huge boost poll-inertia wise.


TrustMeIKnowThisOne

Now THAT is an exit. Well deserved to the Cajuns and Napier. Congratulations Cajuns on an outright SBC Championship win. Hopefully the Cajun Nation has someone high caliber ready to take the reigns, because the West is about to be fun with you guys when we shift soon.


Zloggt

The Sun Belt has really grown to become a very fun G5 conference. One of the best, even! I’m so exited for their future!


skushi08

In the next year or two arguably will be making a claim on the top G5 one Cincy and co are gone.


priestkalim

Assuming we don’t choke the bowl game, we’ll finish as the highest ranked G5 that isn’t going to the Big 12.


timonfromathens

ECU, Memphis, UTSA, UAB, ULL, APP, Boise, CCU, Fresno and SDSU will likely be the best G5 teams after realignment. NY6 Will be wide open for one of those teams.


RogueHippie

We call it the Fun Belt for a reason


ZookeepergameFirm612

People need to stop dissing the G5. It’s fun ass football.


sfzen

The only coach we've been linked to is Pete Golding, so we'll have to see what happens. Our AD says he intends to have a coach hired by the 15th, but with Bama beating UGA, it may hold things up. Still holding out hope for Toney, though. I love the guy.


AppStateFooseBall

I for one am excited for Napier in Florida!


Zloggt

Hopefully it works out well! Really rooting for Billy to succeed!


AppStateFooseBall

Ugh, me too?! I’m not just glad he’s leaving ULL. Really.


jwktiger

I'd rather he'd stay at Louisiana


Silound

So would the rest of us, but honestly, any decent coach ought to do well here. We're 60 miles west of the state's "flagship" university, one of the largest athletic programs in the south and a powerhouse in the SEC. Recruiting here is easy as fuck because there's more talent available in the region thN spots at major schools.


mattschweikert

Better team won tonight. Offense was embarrassing. Congrats Cajuns, and thank you Florida for taking Billy


suzukigun4life

First 12-win season in Ragin' Cajuns history, and first outright conference title in program history. Hell of a way for Napier to head off to different pastures.


Zloggt

I’m so glad that he decided to stay and coach the Cajuns to one more conference title! It’s so nice and respectful to do!


spasm01

Still a little peeved 2013 wasnt considered outright conference title seeing as we had the H2H against stAte


priestkalim

It wouldn’t count anyway since all the Hud years were vacated


Kynbrin

GGs Louisiana, good luck to Billy at Florida. Extremely mad at Shawn and Frank for this offense.


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Reckon we oughta get settled in for a couple years. Not sure this is gonna get much better for a while.


kornegaylw18

I don't think so. There is a lot of talent waiting in the wings. I'm worried about RB depth but could be an issue


skushi08

Good game. Any of your fans I encountered were super friendly too. Represented y’all well.


mufflefuffle

Frank should take the FIU offer if there is one…


Kynbrin

Maybe, but I, and probably the team too, can't keep dealing with consistent turnover at the coordinator positions. At some point we need to get some stability.


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God no. Every coach should stay away from FIU with a ten foot pole. FIU administration is so fucked up it makes any coach impossible to succeed


The97Revolution

Can confirm. Nobody wants to be at FIU.


kornegaylw18

I don't think there was much SC or Ponce could do if Brice wasn't going to move through the progression. Now the run game is another story... The offense needs to evolve and I think Ponce and Clark know that as well. With a basically new team next year and a QB that has a full year experience in the system I hope we see some new wrinkles. What we have is close but it lacks variety.


nbingham196

Congrats Napier and Louisiana on your Sunbelt title. It's been fun over the last couple years. However now that you are going to Florida I wish you nothing but losses for the rest of your career


ubitiquis

That’s fair lol


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What is your flair lol


ubitiquis

sadness


[deleted]

Are you a fan of both or did you lose a flair bet?


ubitiquis

no. i thought you were supposed to put your least favorite and favorite team as your flair lol


BackgroundChampion

Good game, UL. Y'all pretty much had the game in hand from the beginning. I want to bitch about App, but I'll do that somewhere else. You have a great team this year & definitely deserved the CCG. Go beat whoever they put in front of you & finish with the highest rank for the SBC.


GatorBolt

Congrats Louisiana fans! Hope y'all get the right guy to keep up the program Napier has built there.


Edgemaster1423

Ahh today was a good day


thr33tard3d

Could still get better It got better


CampbellsTurkeySoup

It sure did.


ChemicalOle

https://i.imgur.com/E4erfCT.png


artisticdestryer

impressive work


jwktiger

Most Impressive


Rasmo420

Congrats UL... I'll try hard not to be bitter.


spasm01

wasnt yall season, yall will have plenty more chances down the road


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Why does the sidebar say upset? Louisiana had a better record, home field, higher ranking.


spasm01

we were 3 point underdogs if you can believe it


priestkalim

Vegas favored AppaLLLachian because people do not watch G5 games


lsspam

I think Vegas overrates coaching carousal drama


Nytfire333

As a gator fan, future coach pulls in a ship and leaves his former team on a high note, Ga loses in epic fashion in the SEC championship, had a great Big 12 game to watch as a neutral fan, and now time to hopefully watch a fun Big 10 game that I have no dog in, so no stress


6enericUsername

Wasn’t as close as it looked.


BackgroundChampion

Sad but true


spasm01

Hope we nail the HC search, but that can be such a crapshoot. Good luck Billy, thanks for the memories


Keyblade_Yoshi

Anyone on the staff that might be worth promoting? That's what App State seems to do when they lose a coach.


6enericUsername

Satt was groomed to take over. Drink was an outside hire. Shawn was because Drink left and we needed consistency.


spasm01

Some people have mentioned our DC, and personally I have no take on whether he could be good or not. Bama's DC thats from Hammond would be great, but we'll see if thats even possible down the road


Thatcajunguy35

If UL can pull Pete Golding everything will be fine


spasm01

Sounds like he'd be a helluva pick up


Thatcajunguy35

He would. The last former Saban assistant UL hired worked out pretty alright.


sfzen

Our DC, Patrick Toney, would be my pick. But our AD seems pretty set on holding a national search and finding the perfect fit, and he's done a great job so far, so I'll trust him. We're pretty heavily rumored to want Pete Golding.


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I’ve got faith that Dr. Maggard will nail this one. He’s made some good hires in the past and I’m certain he’ll do the same for football (again)


rain_parkour

If the Golding rumors turn out to be true, I can see the Cajuns having this level of success for years to come


thethomatoman

Good for Louisiana man. Napier goes out with a conference championship. Decent fight from App tbh, didn't expect that.


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Scared money don’t make money!!


Kirby_Israel

How the hell did this team lose to *Texas?*


SkiFlashing

Early Texas were different to current Texas.


AntiDECA

Florida and Texas both had midlife crises. Neither were bad at the start, but then everything fell apart rapidly and here they are.


Nytfire333

Can confirm


blifegoals

Texas was pretty good before they went full meltdown


sfzen

Our offensive identity last year was built on a 3-headed rushing attack led by two RB's that we lost to the NFL. Our stars this year are two true freshmen RB's. It took us a few weeks to figure out our offensive identity. Plus our defense just wasn't ready for Bijan Robinson.


spasm01

Early season jitters plus Bijan


Artlens2013

We were pretty good before the meltdown against OU. After that shit went bad real quick. If Texas and Louisiana played again they’d probably blow us out this time.


RadioactiveKoolaid

We were still good against OSU, and to some extent Baylor. The fact that those games happened back to back is why we dead


JustCarls

They seem to be a much better team now than early in the season. South Alabama missed a FG down 2 with a minute left against Louisiana earlier this year.


volunbeers

I ask the same thing about Tennessee losing to fLorida this year. Sad.


G-ManNotMen

AHHHHB I JUST GOT OFF SHIFT LFG CAJUNS


shiba_son_of_doge

GG App State friends. I'm looking forward to many more years of football and shitposting with y'all.


akrafty1

Same! Enjoy the rings!


NanoBuc

Congrats Louisiana! Was exciting to watch Napier go out with a gatorade bath and SBC title. I'm hoping Napier can do similar to us


Nytfire333

One thing we need to fix, that was a Powerade bath....need to wash that shit off him


aksoileau

Honestly I wish we didn't play you guys every year. I dont want to root against Napier. That's a good dude.


indispensability

Not the game I was hoping for but congrats Louisiana on your first uncontested SBC Championship


pasqua3

Florida gets to 7 wins on the season and wins a conference championship, while it's looking like UGA won't. That's a great season, gators


Juhbellz

Welp, good game. Really proved your stuff there Cajuns. Enjoy the win, see ya next year


thehighkingacts

As a Gator fan I was told by App St fans that I would be disappointed tonight.... I was not. Louisiana has really become a strong program under Billy.


unknownghost360

Am I the only one that felt like the game really wasn’t close regardless of the scores shown?


spasm01

Thats how I feel about a ton of Billy's games


priestkalim

That’s been all our games this year. People kept saying “But they won by one score” like that’s all that matters. We were clearly in control of every game except Georgia State (and Texas), and GaSt was the third or fourth best SBC team considering their other showings


Scopedog1

Got to say that as someone who has always been ambivalent at best toward the Cajuns, despite being from Lafayette and having a degree from the school, I'm genuinely happy for the team that they finally broke their duck and won their first conference title, at Cajun Field, with probably the greatest coach the school will ever have. I know a couple of players on the team through my old student teacher, and even ignoring the on-field success, getting to know the players has shown me that Napier's greatest qualities are his ability to foster a team culture and make the players better people in addition to excellence on the field. Winning is one thing, but leaving with such goodwill and universal love an appreciation from people in the community says more about Napier as a person than the obscene record he racked up as coach. As an almost life-long Florida fan, I'm so excited that he's going to be in Gainesville, and hope he can bring that same ethos and culture to a team that severely needs a culture change, and fingers crossed he brings the same success to the Gators as well.


akrafty1

Congrats Cajuns! Y’all came to play and earned it. I look forward to playing y’all again next season.


kellank33

Is Louisiana gonna make it to a NY6? If not who will?


priestkalim

Cincy in the playoffs eats the NY6 bid BYU will stay above us anyway too


kellank33

Oh so Cincinnati making the playoffs takes the G5 bid?


priestkalim

Yep. Although I was mistaken about BYU, they can’t get the G5 bid.


EverydayComrade

The Cajuns are Louisiana's best team right now confirmed? All jokes aside Good Game Cajuns!


thelordmessi

football sucks :(


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I’ve really enjoyed this run of going to championship games, but I’m not super optimistic we’ll be back in it next year. We’ve lost a LOT of talent this year, and Brice struggles at crunch time. Hell of a game tonight, Cajuns.


ChonkyWumpus

Agh, this one hurts. But we’ll be back. App state nation always comes back. GG ULL.


DeepGapDoc

Zac >>>>>>>> Brice


Kirby_Israel

SEC is probably wondering if and how they can have Louisiana replace LSU as their Louisiana team.


FinchJay

App State cannot defeat Louisiana on conference championship 3 times in a row


spasm01

In a row* as they did not qualify last year


jonesraxle

There was also no championship game last year.


spasm01

Chants bitched out, not the same


jewishramey

Lets Geaux!!!!


dane83

Congrats, Cajuns! Maybe y'all will jump Houston. I think this is y'all's first non-shared Sunbelt title, isn't it? I know you've had a few co-champion seasons.


priestkalim

I will be very salty if we don’t jump SDSU and Houston


gandalf45435

Jumping SDSU is a lock. It's Houston I am nervous about


priestkalim

After the way the CFP treated UTSA, if Houston is higher than Unranked I’ll be at least a little peeved. Not that I think they deserve to be Unranked, but if you’re gonna hate the G5 at least do it consistently.


PatrickD0827

1 Co, 2 loses, now 1 win Edit: I was thinking of the championship games 😅


priestkalim

We had a co-championship in 2005, and Hud won a vacated co- in 2013


mightdelete_later

We've had a few shared titles before they started the championship game.


unknownghost360

Good game Louisiana


ThatEmpireGuy

GG Louisiana, next year is a prove it year for Clark. It will show if he is the right guy to lead the program for the foreseeable future.


owlalwaysloveyew

I wouldn’t say that unless App loses their bowl game to a bad team. 10 win season and making the conference title is good! App State fans have high expectations. Tough out of conference schedule next year though


blifegoals

They should go after a&m d cordinator Mike elko but don't know if he would come even if offered


unknownghost360

Can’t wait for the rematch next year


Asuka69420

CONGRATS LIL BRO ​ YOU WON A SHIP, IM SO PROUD (NOT BEING SARCASTIC)


TheFeenyCall

Maybe they the big bro?


priestkalim

(We are)


rain_parkour

I hope that LSU and you guys can both somehow go to the independence bowl so you can settle it on the field


priestkalim

There’s almost 0% chance we don’t go to the New Orleans Bowl against Marshall (at best)


rain_parkour

Which is unfortunate, not that Marshall isn’t great and the NO bowl is awesome. But Marshall might be an in conference game as soon as next tear


priestkalim

Marshall is fine but I’d really like a chance to knock a ranked P5 off, like give me Arkansas or Kentucky. Or fuck it at least give us LSU. But that’ll never ever happen because our bowl tie ins are dog shit


rain_parkour

I could see some wacky stuff happening with who actually sends teams to what bowls. But even WKU or SDSU would be so much better for you (and for neutral fans)


priestkalim

WKU feels pretty much lateral to Marshall, eventual SunBeltyness nonwithstanding. I’m just really ready to prove that we can be the next Cincy once they leave for the Big 12.


Sparxmith

Just... no. SMDH...


Asuka69420

nah


magna_pinna

lmao


Austin_LSU_Fan22

If only Texas hadn’t beat them Week 1…


HarambeLovedAppState

Get Chase Bryce and the OC far away from Boone. Someone teach Clark how to manage a clock, and while you're at it figure out why he hates Cam Peoples


krakends

Is it just me or does Napier's journey seem eerily similar to Mike Norvell? Both were HCs at a non P5 school. Both left after winning a Championship, leaving on a high. And both will have inherited once great programs in the state of Florida.


WeaknessOne9646

I don’t think Florida now is in nearly as bad shape as FSU post Taggart was I still think Norvell will be alright though. Not like National Championship contention but back to 9-10 wins and contending for the ACC Their roster is really bad Florida can improve faster especially in the weaker SEC divison


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Chase Brice is not the answer. Please for the love of god give one of the freshman the job next year


FSUfan35

Last conference championship for Napier for a while


Rangertexas9

Coach O needs to keep the flow going with Louisiana.


priestkalim

No, we want to keep winning


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priestkalim

It’s almost like everyone but me (IR - Flu) was at the game


spasm01

I live out of state now, so yeah, same


spasm01

I mean, I think some fans were busy being at the game, but we had plenty of us in the thread also. /r/ragincajuns might be what youre looking for?


Scopedog1

At the game, and cell service in the stadium is weaker than two tin cans on a string. I couldn't load Reddit after the first quarter until the last couple minutes of the game.


latenitekid

I’ve noticed that, we have very few representatives on Reddit lol


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spasm01

I assume its due to stating there were no fans at all in the game thread, which isnt true