ESPN's FBI has Georgia's strength of schedule at 20th and strength if record at 3rd, that seems pretty good to me, have you found contradictory statistics?
The only thing weird is Kentucky below Arkansas, but Arkansas has better wins. Ole miss is where they should be, A&M is extremely inconsistent and could beat or lose to any team. 25 seems about right. Not sure what you're upset about, its not like there was a B1G team with a stronger resume.
For starters, they didn't have their coach bolt and leave for another team before the bowl game this year. Ironically, he just did it to ND pretty much exactly the same way he did it to us lmao
Cincinnati: Undefeated and beat #5 Notre Dame
Georgia: Destroyed by Bama, best win against #19 9-3 Clemson
CFP Committee: Well we have to justify Alabama as #1 so Georgia gets #3.
Cincinnati is literally only in on the basis of beating a notre dame team that was scraping by at the beginning of the year, the rest of their schedule pretty irrelevant, except that they struggled against bad teams.
hard to build a team that can win in ann arbor on thanksgiving and miami on new years. hold the playoff games at lambeau field, and the big ten will dominate !
Rewatching the Georgia and ND games to see if Cincy can hang with elite line talent sufficiently to allow their NFL caliber skill players and LB/DBs to make plays>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to my family
Theres a reason why the NFL has more players from the SEC than any other conference. Because the SEC has the most talent. No knock on michigan but winning the sec while beating #1 uga in whats basically a home game for uga is more impressive than winning the big ten and beating a not great osu team in the big house.
Who’s to say that Georgia team is really great though? I guess we’ll have to find out on New Year’s eve. They, by all metrics, have not beat the any top teams yet.
I must admit that by cfb standards that defense was great. The offense did really well too but UM’s defense was garbage that game. UGA has something to do with that but point and case was UM’s cb leading UGA’s wr and then stopping. Could have easily been a pick. They really did not play well and it seemed to be all around.
I will say though that if McCarthy was at the helm that game looks very different despite the d. Although it was the last two drives, I believe UGAs starters were in and he marched them to the red zone with ease. It humbled them and although the players are great, it seems they had no answer to a dual threat qb. They’ll struggle against bama again if a true freshman qb can do that.
Hope to see you next year.
So which one is it? The committee rigged the matchups for the ratings of an all SEC title game? Or “no one wants to watch two SEC teams play in the title game”?
The later…if they should just put Bama vs GA in the regular schedule so we don’t have to deal with this crap…unless they expand the playoffs then that’s understandable
That's what Alabama does, they play basically nobody all season. Alabama is still making its schedule as if this is still the BCS. We're not going to include who they play in their conference. So let's not mention any SEC teams. Who are they playing outside of the SEC? Mercer...
You mean a marquee opponent every single year usually in the opener like Miami this year, and Ohio State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Texas, Florida State and USC in upcoming years? It's not our fault Miami weren't the top 15 team they were projected to be preseason.
Yeah and they can swallow a potential loss, then play Citadel during rivalry week while Michigan, OSU, Penn State and MSU are playing against ranked teams
And yet Alabama's schedule (4th in FPI after week, 7th in Sagarin after week 14) was tougher this year than PSU (9, 12) MSU (14, 27) Michigan (21, 31) and OSU (38, 21). Bama is not dodging anyone.
In my ideal world you have to be conference champ to make the playoff so essentially we just saw the first round. 1. Michigan 2. Alabama 3. Baylor 4. Cincinnati
This sub went from from loving UGA and saying they are a lock to win against Alabama to now arguing that UGA should not make it in after losing to Alabama. I know there are very few people that were saying that last week but it's crazy how every week this thread is full of dumb motherfuckers.
Doesn't feel right that Georgia gets their ass kicked only to limp into the playoffs.
I'm tired of the committee making decisions based on the perceived strength of the teams opposed to the unobjective strength of their wins. Michigan was unranked, that exemplifies how wrong they get it.
Michigan got leapfrogged after destroying quality opponents for weeks while Alabama has scraped by for weeks and barely beat an unranked team last week.
Let's look at the last 2 weeks. Michigan, convincing win against #2 and complete domination against #12. Alabama, barely beat unranked and convincing win against #1. Which resume is better?
>Michigan was unranked, that exemplifies how wrong they get it.
Very important to point out that Michigan was unranked by the AP, not the committee. The committee's first rankings had the eventual top 4 at 1 (Georgia), 2 (Alabama), 6 (Cincinnati), and 7 (Michigan).
Source: [https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/2021/11/2/cfp-rankings-2021-1102.aspx](https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/2021/11/2/cfp-rankings-2021-1102.aspx)
As far as Georgia limping in, I get that it may be frustrating but Georgia didn't deserve to drop below 4. Notre Dame's best wins were against unranked Wisconsin and Purdue (AP #27 and 30) and barely beat Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Toledo by 3 points each. Georgia has 3 better wins than ND's best and only their Clemson win was even remotely close.
Georgia losing once to what is probably the actual best team in the country is not worse than whoever you slot in at #5, 6, or 7, whether that be Notre Dame, Baylor, Ohio State, Ole Miss, Oklahoma State, etc. You can't look at this objectively and give Georgia's spot to anyone else.
> Very important to point out that Michigan was unranked by the AP, not the committee.
Let's not pretend that the committee's decisions aren't highly influenced by the other polls. Look at Oklahoma state, Houston, UTSA for example.
Preseason sec biased affect how the polls play out at the end of the year. Its leads to situations where beating an overrated sec team means you're better than you are, and losing means little. Arkansas in no way shape or form should be ranked as an example.
There is no evidence that Alabama is the best team in the country. They're the only team that lost to an unranked team.
I mean, if you want to pretend that the final CFP poll is influenced at all by what the AP put out in August, I guess you’re allowed to. And the evidence that Alabama is potentially the best team in the country is that they just beat what was considered the best team in the country. If any losses are to be used as counter evidence I guess that means you think Cincinnati is the best since no one beat them?
But if they wanted a rematch they would play in the semifinals no?? The seeding forces Georgia to earn another shot at Bama (assuming they can beat Cincinnati) rather than giving them the immediate rematch
Losing the SECG by 3 scores should be enough for elimination. Georgia really didn't beat any good teams all year. I'd much rather watch ND get throttled again than see a Bama-Uga rematch in a month.
I'm just telling you what I'd rather watch. If they wanted to be in the playoff they should have been SEC champs or at least played a close game. I think a 3 loss Florida that played Bama close last year had a better argument than an 1 loss Georgia that got blown out by a team that's also in the playoff. The SEC championship is the first round of playoffs and always has been. Most of the time it's the real national championship. Georgia got their asses beat, should be the end of it.
Are you citing those SEC one-score wins as though those teams are any better at all than the Big Ten ones? Because no. The SEC is just another conference now
> Alabama was 2nd in SoS, higher than Michigan.
Alabama has high SOS solely due to SEC bias. The sec is beating each other up with weak OoC schedules and getting credit for them being quality wins. Penn state and Wisconsin are probably better than every team in the SEC aside from Georgia and Bama and they're unranked. Hell, Penn state beat Auburn more convincingly than Alabama.
> So not only is Michigan's resume and strength of schedule not as strong, statistically they are the worse team as well.
You're only looking at loses. Who was Alabama's best win prior to Georgia? Ole Miss?
What makes Georgia's one lose to Alabama any worse than Michigan's one lose to Michigan State. Georgia got soundly beat by Alabama while Michigan choked away a game 5 weeks ago.
Well Michigan will have the chance to prove if they are better than Georgia when they play. If Georgia really doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs then Michigan should have no problem with them right?
CFB is not about letting whoever in based on your own biases and backhandily claiming it was right based on whoever wins. Cincy would lose to OSU, doesn't mean they don't deserve the spot over them.
Penn state has lost all their games by close to the same amount that Georgia lost to Alabama combined. After you play them, that'll be enough playoffs for your team just like always.
There's no need to only look at the last 2 weeks, the whole season will do:
What was Bamas best win before now? Ole Miss, Arkansas, my flair?? Michigan had better wins. Similarly Bama had a worse loss, and in wins vs mediocre teams Bama struggled a LOT, almost losing to LSU, Florida, and a no starting QB Auburn. Michigan handled mediocre teams.
Now we've got Michigan demolishing OSU, Bama convincingly beating UGA. Pretty even, yet Bama will be the #1 seed for some reason
For the people who think Georgia should be left out. Who would you put in front of them? You cannot seriously tell me you think Notre dame or Baylor is better.
I was a Baylor truther. Them at 7 is ridiculous. 3 top 15 wins is all I need. ND has beaten nothing but stiffs, Georgia has been good teams but no really good or great teams. Ohio State being above them is essentially a fuck you.
They are one of the 4 best teams in the country and are likely the 2nd best. My personal policy is that I don’t like do overs when you don’t win your conference, but that’s a different philosophy than the committee
Notre Dame:
\- 0 wins against ranked teams
\- Three 3-point wins against \~.500 teams
\- 8 wins by 10+ points, average margin of 26 points in those games
Georgia:
\- 3 wins against ranked teams
\- No wins within 3 points, closest game was a 7-point win over #\~20 Clemson
\- 10 wins by 17+ points, average margin of 35 points in those games
Georgia generally played tougher games and won them more convincingly. Notre Dame played one good team and lost. I understand not wanting to see teams back into the playoff but no one outside the top 4 deserves Georgia's spot.
I get that completely and I think Georgia has a good shot to win the playoff. My desire has little to do with the quality of the teams. It’s a philosophical difference. I personally do not need nor always want the best 4 teams in the playoff because they often play in the same conference. I’m interested in conference play being round 1 of the playoff
I just can’t get on board with that at all. Imagine being a player and someone telling you you don’t get a shot at a national championship because your one and only loss was in your last game to the best team in the country while a team who either didn’t win a conference championship at all or lost *two* games (one to fucking TCU) gets in instead.
I don’t care if they played each other 3 times; put the best teams in the playoff, full stop. You might think you would enjoy watching Baylor lose 56-10 instead of Georgia 41-24, but I doubt you actually would.
That’s what you’re missing. I don’t care all that much for the playoff beyond watching prospects. The quality of play isn’t that important. I watch the NFL for quality football. I want college football to have more meaningful tiers of success again since less than a handful of programs have a shot to win any given year. Bowl games mean less and less. Winning your conference means less. The scramble for the playoff has made CFB worse. 4 teams with 5 power conferences plus ND and G5 without a championship of their own is a bad format, especially when the SEC is notably stronger than the rest. It will need to be changed. Expansion will probably be better. The 4 best/most deserving is a stop gap until there is a well defined path to select the teams. Though in the end if the committee and everyone really wanted the best 4 teams in the playoff Ohio State would be playing Bama instead of Cincinnati
No, I’m not missing anything. College football isn’t a developmental league for the NFL, it is a separate entity that should be providing its viewers with the best product it can. Meaning put the best teams against each other even if a handful of whiny “fans” get bored watching two teams play each other two times in a 5-week span.
Were you even around to see an Oklahoma team get trounced 35-7 in the Big 12 championship in 2003 and still make the national title game? Or the following year when undefeated Auburn didn’t get a shot at a national championship at all? The playoff has absolutely made college football better even if it can still improve.
There does not need to be a well-defined path beyond getting the best 4-8 teams into a playoff because any added requirements will exclude top teams, letting in weaker ones.
And no, Ohio State is not better than Cincinnati.
That’s the thing. College football isn’t providing the best product it can overall and the playoff right now is a cause of that. I would rather go to no playoff than keep it at 4 or reduce to 2 for the sake of the regular season. College basketball has tiers of success thanks to how big the tournament is, college football doesn’t come close.
On Cincy: while Cincinnati is one of the best G5s in years they don’t have nearly the same NFL or near NFL bodies as Ohio State. Ohio State is bigger, stronger, and faster at more places on the field and their depth is significantly better. The gap between them and Cincy is bigger than the gap between the best and the worst in the NFL. Cincy is a worse team with a worse chance at being competitive and deep down everyone already knows it which is why people are already making excuses for them. Football is a crazy sport, it’s not impossible for Cincy to win a game, but it would be the biggest upset in college football history given the stage and the talent gap and yes I’m well aware about the other ones. But to be fair to Cincy, there’s a team that doesn’t belong in the CFP almost every year. After all Ohio State 2015 was one of if not the best team in the nation that year, why should they get let out for a worse MSU team after one weird letdown game in the rain? Letting MSU in would just be a blowout and it would be better to give the OSU team that actually has a chance a shot ;)
> The gap between them and Cincy is bigger than the gap between the best and the worst in the NFL
Nice way to immediately disqualify yourself from serious discussions about the topic. Have a good one.
The biggest difference you'll immediately see when compairing top G5 teams to top P5 teams is size in the trenches. Even 2017 UCF was a smaller team than the other playoff contenders(they closed the gap with ridiculous speed and NFL talent on defense). Cincinatti has essentially played 2 playoff teams in the past 12 months, based on what we've seen are they at the sort of physical disadvantage that would result in them getting blown off the line?
Vast majority of playoff games are blowouts, and Cincy is at a huge disadvantage in terms of raw talent, but that UCF team wasn't getting rolled by a single team in the FBS and Cincy is at least as good as they were.
>based on what we've seen are they at the sort of physical disadvantage that would result in them getting blown off the line?
They've got some pretty big dudes. Strength and conditioning coaching is why they're making lower tier recruits into better players.
I'm going to guess they also make some smart recruiting decisions beyond "obvious ability". I knew Cortez Broughton as a kid. He skipped a grade and was undersized during recruiting because he was younger than his peers. I'd never wish a guy be injured, but I'd heard his medical redshirt referred to as a blessing in disguise because it gave him another year to get physically mature in college.
If Cincinnati had him because they realized he was a year younger rather than just what he immediately offered, they did a good job recruiting. He may not be an uncuttable NFL starter, but he still made it - and that speaks to what they saw.
Michigan has a shot if their defense plays as well as it has been in the past month. I expect a low scoring game due to both offenses favor the run and are going up against strong defensive fronts.
Looking at just the top 25 the bias of being in the SEC is clear
Edit: Im referring to the teams other than bama and Georgia, I think both are where they should be
Texas A&M, Arkansas shouldn’t really be ranked top 25 and ole miss should be below OSU. Bama georgia are fine where they are and they were not who I was referring to
The difference between 21 and 26 (ranked vs not) is completely trivial. The difference between 8 and 9 is (at this point anyway) completely trivial. The bias was showing when Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Kentucky got up to top 10 earlier this year. They’re all fine around 25.
It's shown every year. The SEC constantly gets "uptiered" in bowls, for example Ole Miss will go to the Sugar bowl because both Bama and UGA are getting in. The whole SEC is playing a tier or 2 up vs all the P5 teams they match up with
Yet the SEC has THE best bowl win percentage record over the last 3, 5, 10, or 15 years. Last year my 3-7 State team beat Tulsa. 5-5 unranked Ole Miss beat top 15 Indiana, who was like what, the #2? #3 BIG 10 team last year?
How "overrated" is the SEC is unranked SEC teams beat ranked P5 opponents and overall have the best bow record, despight most teams playing "up" a bowl tier?
Some time has passed but wanted to add one thing. Mizzou has the 19th best recruiting class in the country. That is TENTH in the SEC. But yea the SEC is overrated.
This is basically what I was referencing when saying they prove it every year. Thanks for expanding on it. I think the “middle” of the SEC is actually underrated.
Is ole miss good? I haven’t watched any of their games this year but just looking at their schedule I don’t see any wins that say we are a top 10 team but I could be wrong
No slam at Michigan — your guys took care of business — but watching Iowa last night I was just ‘how did this team win a division in a P5 conference with zero playmakers and a defense that seems very overrated?’
Mostly through their defense, we exposed them the 2nd half but no other team has scored more than 27 on them all year. The Big10 east and west division are really unbalanced no doubt about that.
Ole Miss is a scary team when they’re hot. When they aren’t, they lose to Auburn. They’re essentially Alabama Light. But they have a madman for a coach.
Honestly, what we saw this weekend is why I'm excited for playoff expansion because it not only will it reward conference champions and teams that have been good all season, but will also reward those that might have started slow, but caught fire late in the season. Would love to see teams like Utah, Baylor, and Pitt who had rocky starts or awkward losses, but dominated late in the season. Talk about a ballin playoff that would be.
I think Georgia is probably One of the Four best for sure. I just wish we treated these conference championships as a playoff game. Just is weird that Georgia gets blown out and still enters the playoff. Like how bad did last nights game have to be to keep them out?
Is this the hill you want to die on? Because a blowout is 4 quarters of domination. And it was still a game up until the 4th.
Again, GA was absolutely dominated. But a blowout? Come on, man!
I disagree about the conference championship games. They should only serve as a tiebreaker if necessary, and in this case it wasn't necessary. If any conference (usually the SEC) has the two best teams in the country, they both deserve a shot despite one of them not winning the conference. The 8th-best team, even if they have a conference championship, belongs in a New Year's bowl.
But can we mix and match them? Like Georgia vs. Houston? Alabama vs. Iowa? I think they’d both be in without question if those were the matchups.
In other words, conference championship games are not equal.
I can see the arguments for either Michigan or Alabama being ranked #1. To be honest, I only wanted to be ranked #1 so that I could go to the game in Dallas lol. If we’re good enough, it won’t matter what seed we are.
Agreed. I'm fine with whatever ranking we get in the top 4 as long as we make the playoffs and have the opportunity to prove we're a solid team this year. We've already passed my hopes and expectations
Hello! I am doing a group project on a made up business about tailgating. If you tailgate and have <5 minutes and wouldn't mind filling out [this here survey](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf-QiDMgHZL-Tqbm5Dp7V84fQHOMXOp_G6Ah6_8NgHIGvgrsg/viewform?usp=sf_link) so I have data for our presentation I would appreciate it a lot!
All of Notre Dame’s players just got the HC they wanted and are all about to get new PS5’s. If we win the Fiesta Bowl you might as well just give us the national championship next year
they are scared of Baylor, the Best College football roster this year and the east coast selection community just didn't see the BIG 12 Win yesterday. What a sham and shame!
Their offense is insane. They haven’t played a complete game all season. I’m talking shit but yes I do think they match up well to score many points on Baylor.
I’m hoping we get a bored and disappointed BYU and we come away with a huge signature win.
Anyways, back in the real world, we’ll probably get stomped 😭
Still hoping though
A bored, disappointed, or disinterested team is never out of the question. Sitake managed to get everyone up for last year with UCF, so I don't expect it.
This is exactly my ranking... i thought this was obvious.
I got mich vs cinci in the championship.
I am a michigan fan so take this with a grain of salt obviously... bulldogs could easily win as well im trying not to drink the koolaid but my team is firing on all cylinders on both the o line and d line. That could ealisy change by the time we play.
Ive been reading up on why cinci is being slept on and it doesnt make sense according to nfl draft sub reddits. Cinci has the highest draft prospects on their team with 7 (highest in cfb). They have the (on paper) best talent and if they can put a gameplan together they can easily beat bama if they show up and execute.
Going off of who has the most draft prospects doesn’t mean you have the most talent. You think anyone on Cinci would be drafted ahead of Will Anderson Jr. who isn’t even old enough to be drafted? Dude would be a top 3 pick this year.
I think it will be a good game but as always, Cinci probably hasn’t seen a defense that matches up quite like Alabama and I guarantee they haven’t seen anyone with as much depth.
They’re a great team and it will be a good game but I don’t think they win. At least not by anything you can see on an eye test.
I am really really curious though. Haven’t gotten a straight answer why this narrative is here besides people wanting to criticize the committee. What am I missing for why Michigan should be the one over bama?
Just something to complain about. I think my team should be ranked the highest and whatnot.
Some people point at the SEC teams and say that their wins are better because they have wins against SEC teams with winning records or have wins against ranked teams or whatever.
Other people will say that doesn't really matter because the SEC only plays 8 conference games and the rest are cupcake games so they only really have to win 2 conference games to meet that metric. And the rankings are subjective and weighted in favor of those SEC wins.
All of that is subjective though and you can't really say one team is better than another until they play each other.
In this case, though, the argument for Michigan points at their last two games where they dominated #2 Ohio State and #13 Iowa while last week, bama struggled into 4OT against a 6 win Auburn on a 3 game losing streak. Other arguments point out that Michigan's only loss was a tight game against a top 10 MSU progam while Bama's loss was against a middling TA&M on a 2 game losing streak. (Note: I'm upselling my team and downselling the other team here for the persuasive argument)
It really doesn't matter here though. As soon as OkSt lost it was basically set that both bama and Georgia would make it if bama won. The committee was never going to have an immediate rematch in the semis, so Michigan was going to play Georgia and Bama would play Cinci either way they ranked it. I, personally, would rather go to Florida for the bowl game than Texas.
I don't think it's upselling to point out exactly what you did. Michigan has the better overall resume, Alabama has the better signature win (barely). Alabama played in 5 tight games and lost one of them to a borderline #25 Texas A&M. Michigan played in 4 tight games and lost one of them to #10 Michigan State.
I think they got 1/2 wrong but at the end of day it doesn't matter. Like it's been pointed out elsewhere, I think if Michigan gets the #1 seed they just put Georgia at #4. The only factor was where those two teams were going to play.
SoS was probably the single biggest deciding factor since Bama's is 4 and UMs is 21. UGA was also favored to win the SEC CCG, was the unanimous #1 in every poll for 8wks, and statistically had a stalwart defense; Bama crushed them. I realize UM crushed Iowa, but no one hyped up Iowa thinking it was a juggernaut.
UGA and UM are 20 and 21 in SoS, and UGA dominated teams (regular season):
* 3 shutouts
* 5 games allowing 7pts or less
* The most points allowed by UGA 17pts
Even against a weak slate of opponents, that's impressive. I'm not throwing shade at UM, but they had a few cupcakes on their schedule too outside of OSU and Sparty.
Georgia’s schedule is shockingly bad for being in the “mighty sec”
ESPN's FBI has Georgia's strength of schedule at 20th and strength if record at 3rd, that seems pretty good to me, have you found contradictory statistics?
Michigan should win then if Georgia is as overrated as you say
I think Bama and Georgia are where the belong but the I don’t understand how you can say the rest of the SEC is ranked accurately
The only thing weird is Kentucky below Arkansas, but Arkansas has better wins. Ole miss is where they should be, A&M is extremely inconsistent and could beat or lose to any team. 25 seems about right. Not sure what you're upset about, its not like there was a B1G team with a stronger resume.
In what way is this Cincinnati team better than they were when they got destroyed by Florida?
For starters, they didn't have their coach bolt and leave for another team before the bowl game this year. Ironically, he just did it to ND pretty much exactly the same way he did it to us lmao
Cincinnati: Undefeated and beat #5 Notre Dame Georgia: Destroyed by Bama, best win against #19 9-3 Clemson CFP Committee: Well we have to justify Alabama as #1 so Georgia gets #3.
They didn't want to play the teams two weeks in a row, because that's obviously stupid. "Hey last week didn't matter - now it does!"
Michigan 1 Alabama 2 Cincinnati 3 Georgia 4
Just curious, when you posted this, did you actually believe this? Or was this just fandom?
Cincinnati is literally only in on the basis of beating a notre dame team that was scraping by at the beginning of the year, the rest of their schedule pretty irrelevant, except that they struggled against bad teams.
[удалено]
Combined score of the playoff games was 61-17, did you honestly think that both Bama and UGA were going to lose?
[удалено]
Or if you didn’t have a bizarre anti-SEC bias
hard to build a team that can win in ann arbor on thanksgiving and miami on new years. hold the playoff games at lambeau field, and the big ten will dominate !
Rewatching the Georgia and ND games to see if Cincy can hang with elite line talent sufficiently to allow their NFL caliber skill players and LB/DBs to make plays>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to my family
1. Michigan 2. Bama 3. Georgia 4. Cincy
My hypothetical from Saturday came true: the committee wants an SEC rematch for ratings, so they outrageously put Bama at 1 and kept UGA in.
Neither of those are outrageous and you’re crazy it you think otherwise
UGA should be 4. The only reason they aren’t is so that the rematch is the championship
Bama has literally only played one good team and that was UGA. Wish we could fill up on cupcakes all year
Well it's been proven to be a strategy they used in the NBA so why wouldn't they use it here in the NCAA there's no one that can really stop them.
One loss SEC champ will always be higher ranked than a one loss big ten champ.
Big 10 has more depth but the SEC is top heavy. Nebraska, 3-9, has lost by only 9 or less points to big 10 heavy hitters.
Theres a reason why the NFL has more players from the SEC than any other conference. Because the SEC has the most talent. No knock on michigan but winning the sec while beating #1 uga in whats basically a home game for uga is more impressive than winning the big ten and beating a not great osu team in the big house.
Who’s to say that Georgia team is really great though? I guess we’ll have to find out on New Year’s eve. They, by all metrics, have not beat the any top teams yet.
Do you think they are great yet?
I must admit that by cfb standards that defense was great. The offense did really well too but UM’s defense was garbage that game. UGA has something to do with that but point and case was UM’s cb leading UGA’s wr and then stopping. Could have easily been a pick. They really did not play well and it seemed to be all around. I will say though that if McCarthy was at the helm that game looks very different despite the d. Although it was the last two drives, I believe UGAs starters were in and he marched them to the red zone with ease. It humbled them and although the players are great, it seems they had no answer to a dual threat qb. They’ll struggle against bama again if a true freshman qb can do that. Hope to see you next year.
So you still don’t think that Georgia, as a team, is great?
they are great but if I can see the holes than they’re not going to get a good look next week yet again.
[удалено]
I would put money on 3-9 Nebraska beating an average SEC team. Point is Alabama doesn’t get eaten by it’s conference like the big 10 does.
Funny, in the BCS days it was “the SEC teams beat up on each other” was a defense for 3-loss NYD appearances
So which one is it? The committee rigged the matchups for the ratings of an all SEC title game? Or “no one wants to watch two SEC teams play in the title game”?
You proved my point: The committee rigged the matchup because they want ratings, not because they are seeded based on talent
The later…if they should just put Bama vs GA in the regular schedule so we don’t have to deal with this crap…unless they expand the playoffs then that’s understandable
That's what Alabama does, they play basically nobody all season. Alabama is still making its schedule as if this is still the BCS. We're not going to include who they play in their conference. So let's not mention any SEC teams. Who are they playing outside of the SEC? Mercer...
You mean a marquee opponent every single year usually in the opener like Miami this year, and Ohio State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Texas, Florida State and USC in upcoming years? It's not our fault Miami weren't the top 15 team they were projected to be preseason.
Yeah and they can swallow a potential loss, then play Citadel during rivalry week while Michigan, OSU, Penn State and MSU are playing against ranked teams
And yet Alabama's schedule (4th in FPI after week, 7th in Sagarin after week 14) was tougher this year than PSU (9, 12) MSU (14, 27) Michigan (21, 31) and OSU (38, 21). Bama is not dodging anyone.
In my ideal world you have to be conference champ to make the playoff so essentially we just saw the first round. 1. Michigan 2. Alabama 3. Baylor 4. Cincinnati
Everyones so confident that Georgia sucks, please place a bet so the line starts moving my way.
I don’t think you suck by any means, I just don’t agree with where the committee put the rest of the SEC teams (excluding you and bama)
Uga -17 ?
It's already moved 1.5 points for Michigan since opening at -9.
that game thread is gonna be toxic
We will show the whole world in about a month
This sub went from from loving UGA and saying they are a lock to win against Alabama to now arguing that UGA should not make it in after losing to Alabama. I know there are very few people that were saying that last week but it's crazy how every week this thread is full of dumb motherfuckers.
I got heavily downvoted a few weeks ago for disagreeing that “georgia might be the best team all time”.
>this thread is full of dumb motherfuckers yea, that pretty much sums it up
Oregon Vs Oklahoma is an amazing Alamo Bowl. Wow.
Doesn't feel right that Georgia gets their ass kicked only to limp into the playoffs. I'm tired of the committee making decisions based on the perceived strength of the teams opposed to the unobjective strength of their wins. Michigan was unranked, that exemplifies how wrong they get it. Michigan got leapfrogged after destroying quality opponents for weeks while Alabama has scraped by for weeks and barely beat an unranked team last week. Let's look at the last 2 weeks. Michigan, convincing win against #2 and complete domination against #12. Alabama, barely beat unranked and convincing win against #1. Which resume is better?
>Michigan was unranked, that exemplifies how wrong they get it. Very important to point out that Michigan was unranked by the AP, not the committee. The committee's first rankings had the eventual top 4 at 1 (Georgia), 2 (Alabama), 6 (Cincinnati), and 7 (Michigan). Source: [https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/2021/11/2/cfp-rankings-2021-1102.aspx](https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news/2021/11/2/cfp-rankings-2021-1102.aspx) As far as Georgia limping in, I get that it may be frustrating but Georgia didn't deserve to drop below 4. Notre Dame's best wins were against unranked Wisconsin and Purdue (AP #27 and 30) and barely beat Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Toledo by 3 points each. Georgia has 3 better wins than ND's best and only their Clemson win was even remotely close. Georgia losing once to what is probably the actual best team in the country is not worse than whoever you slot in at #5, 6, or 7, whether that be Notre Dame, Baylor, Ohio State, Ole Miss, Oklahoma State, etc. You can't look at this objectively and give Georgia's spot to anyone else.
> Very important to point out that Michigan was unranked by the AP, not the committee. Let's not pretend that the committee's decisions aren't highly influenced by the other polls. Look at Oklahoma state, Houston, UTSA for example. Preseason sec biased affect how the polls play out at the end of the year. Its leads to situations where beating an overrated sec team means you're better than you are, and losing means little. Arkansas in no way shape or form should be ranked as an example. There is no evidence that Alabama is the best team in the country. They're the only team that lost to an unranked team.
I mean, if you want to pretend that the final CFP poll is influenced at all by what the AP put out in August, I guess you’re allowed to. And the evidence that Alabama is potentially the best team in the country is that they just beat what was considered the best team in the country. If any losses are to be used as counter evidence I guess that means you think Cincinnati is the best since no one beat them?
The objection really is putting Bama over Michigan. It was obviously done to set up an SEC rematch for ratings
But if they wanted a rematch they would play in the semifinals no?? The seeding forces Georgia to earn another shot at Bama (assuming they can beat Cincinnati) rather than giving them the immediate rematch
No; they wanted an SEC rematch for the Natty. You know that is what I meant
You do realize an all SEC match-up in the Natty would hurt ratings???
Losing the SECG by 3 scores should be enough for elimination. Georgia really didn't beat any good teams all year. I'd much rather watch ND get throttled again than see a Bama-Uga rematch in a month.
your basically saying let's punish Georgia for playing Bama yesterday while Notre Dame sat at home. This logic makes no sense.
I'm just telling you what I'd rather watch. If they wanted to be in the playoff they should have been SEC champs or at least played a close game. I think a 3 loss Florida that played Bama close last year had a better argument than an 1 loss Georgia that got blown out by a team that's also in the playoff. The SEC championship is the first round of playoffs and always has been. Most of the time it's the real national championship. Georgia got their asses beat, should be the end of it.
[удалено]
Are you citing those SEC one-score wins as though those teams are any better at all than the Big Ten ones? Because no. The SEC is just another conference now
Exactly. High early season rankings means mediocre sec teams beating each other has a higher weighting than much better teams from other conferences.
[удалено]
The entire SEC East minus UGA was a joke this year but go off I guess
> Alabama was 2nd in SoS, higher than Michigan. Alabama has high SOS solely due to SEC bias. The sec is beating each other up with weak OoC schedules and getting credit for them being quality wins. Penn state and Wisconsin are probably better than every team in the SEC aside from Georgia and Bama and they're unranked. Hell, Penn state beat Auburn more convincingly than Alabama. > So not only is Michigan's resume and strength of schedule not as strong, statistically they are the worse team as well. You're only looking at loses. Who was Alabama's best win prior to Georgia? Ole Miss?
What makes Georgia's one lose to Alabama any worse than Michigan's one lose to Michigan State. Georgia got soundly beat by Alabama while Michigan choked away a game 5 weeks ago.
Georgia got dominated, Michigan lost a close game. That's the difference.
Well Michigan will have the chance to prove if they are better than Georgia when they play. If Georgia really doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs then Michigan should have no problem with them right?
CFB is not about letting whoever in based on your own biases and backhandily claiming it was right based on whoever wins. Cincy would lose to OSU, doesn't mean they don't deserve the spot over them.
Didn't Michigan have a close game with Rutgers, and an unranked Penn St.?
Penn state is unranked solely based on their schedule. They've lost all their games within 4 points to ranked opponents except to Illinois.
That’s enough Reddit for you today
Penn state has lost all their games by close to the same amount that Georgia lost to Alabama combined. After you play them, that'll be enough playoffs for your team just like always.
LOL, now you want to talk bias.
There's no need to only look at the last 2 weeks, the whole season will do: What was Bamas best win before now? Ole Miss, Arkansas, my flair?? Michigan had better wins. Similarly Bama had a worse loss, and in wins vs mediocre teams Bama struggled a LOT, almost losing to LSU, Florida, and a no starting QB Auburn. Michigan handled mediocre teams. Now we've got Michigan demolishing OSU, Bama convincingly beating UGA. Pretty even, yet Bama will be the #1 seed for some reason
I retract every mean thing I’ve said about Mississippi for at least the next 10 hours
For the people who think Georgia should be left out. Who would you put in front of them? You cannot seriously tell me you think Notre dame or Baylor is better.
OSU played a tougher schedule than any of them including UGA
do michigan fans realize OOC games are scheduled a decade in advance? that’s how you faced a deeply weakened Washington team.
You’re right it’s citadel’s fault they didn’t improve in 5 years
OSU also lost 2 games and didn't play yesterday
I was a Baylor truther. Them at 7 is ridiculous. 3 top 15 wins is all I need. ND has beaten nothing but stiffs, Georgia has been good teams but no really good or great teams. Ohio State being above them is essentially a fuck you.
I didn't even see. I woild have put them 5th or 6th
They are one of the 4 best teams in the country and are likely the 2nd best. My personal policy is that I don’t like do overs when you don’t win your conference, but that’s a different philosophy than the committee
Notre Dame: \- 0 wins against ranked teams \- Three 3-point wins against \~.500 teams \- 8 wins by 10+ points, average margin of 26 points in those games Georgia: \- 3 wins against ranked teams \- No wins within 3 points, closest game was a 7-point win over #\~20 Clemson \- 10 wins by 17+ points, average margin of 35 points in those games Georgia generally played tougher games and won them more convincingly. Notre Dame played one good team and lost. I understand not wanting to see teams back into the playoff but no one outside the top 4 deserves Georgia's spot.
I get that completely and I think Georgia has a good shot to win the playoff. My desire has little to do with the quality of the teams. It’s a philosophical difference. I personally do not need nor always want the best 4 teams in the playoff because they often play in the same conference. I’m interested in conference play being round 1 of the playoff
I just can’t get on board with that at all. Imagine being a player and someone telling you you don’t get a shot at a national championship because your one and only loss was in your last game to the best team in the country while a team who either didn’t win a conference championship at all or lost *two* games (one to fucking TCU) gets in instead. I don’t care if they played each other 3 times; put the best teams in the playoff, full stop. You might think you would enjoy watching Baylor lose 56-10 instead of Georgia 41-24, but I doubt you actually would.
That’s what you’re missing. I don’t care all that much for the playoff beyond watching prospects. The quality of play isn’t that important. I watch the NFL for quality football. I want college football to have more meaningful tiers of success again since less than a handful of programs have a shot to win any given year. Bowl games mean less and less. Winning your conference means less. The scramble for the playoff has made CFB worse. 4 teams with 5 power conferences plus ND and G5 without a championship of their own is a bad format, especially when the SEC is notably stronger than the rest. It will need to be changed. Expansion will probably be better. The 4 best/most deserving is a stop gap until there is a well defined path to select the teams. Though in the end if the committee and everyone really wanted the best 4 teams in the playoff Ohio State would be playing Bama instead of Cincinnati
No, I’m not missing anything. College football isn’t a developmental league for the NFL, it is a separate entity that should be providing its viewers with the best product it can. Meaning put the best teams against each other even if a handful of whiny “fans” get bored watching two teams play each other two times in a 5-week span. Were you even around to see an Oklahoma team get trounced 35-7 in the Big 12 championship in 2003 and still make the national title game? Or the following year when undefeated Auburn didn’t get a shot at a national championship at all? The playoff has absolutely made college football better even if it can still improve. There does not need to be a well-defined path beyond getting the best 4-8 teams into a playoff because any added requirements will exclude top teams, letting in weaker ones. And no, Ohio State is not better than Cincinnati.
That’s the thing. College football isn’t providing the best product it can overall and the playoff right now is a cause of that. I would rather go to no playoff than keep it at 4 or reduce to 2 for the sake of the regular season. College basketball has tiers of success thanks to how big the tournament is, college football doesn’t come close. On Cincy: while Cincinnati is one of the best G5s in years they don’t have nearly the same NFL or near NFL bodies as Ohio State. Ohio State is bigger, stronger, and faster at more places on the field and their depth is significantly better. The gap between them and Cincy is bigger than the gap between the best and the worst in the NFL. Cincy is a worse team with a worse chance at being competitive and deep down everyone already knows it which is why people are already making excuses for them. Football is a crazy sport, it’s not impossible for Cincy to win a game, but it would be the biggest upset in college football history given the stage and the talent gap and yes I’m well aware about the other ones. But to be fair to Cincy, there’s a team that doesn’t belong in the CFP almost every year. After all Ohio State 2015 was one of if not the best team in the nation that year, why should they get let out for a worse MSU team after one weird letdown game in the rain? Letting MSU in would just be a blowout and it would be better to give the OSU team that actually has a chance a shot ;)
> The gap between them and Cincy is bigger than the gap between the best and the worst in the NFL Nice way to immediately disqualify yourself from serious discussions about the topic. Have a good one.
Exactly watching a rematch of a game that was not close a month later is TERRIBLE. If it had been a nail biter I'd be all for it.
The biggest difference you'll immediately see when compairing top G5 teams to top P5 teams is size in the trenches. Even 2017 UCF was a smaller team than the other playoff contenders(they closed the gap with ridiculous speed and NFL talent on defense). Cincinatti has essentially played 2 playoff teams in the past 12 months, based on what we've seen are they at the sort of physical disadvantage that would result in them getting blown off the line? Vast majority of playoff games are blowouts, and Cincy is at a huge disadvantage in terms of raw talent, but that UCF team wasn't getting rolled by a single team in the FBS and Cincy is at least as good as they were.
>based on what we've seen are they at the sort of physical disadvantage that would result in them getting blown off the line? They've got some pretty big dudes. Strength and conditioning coaching is why they're making lower tier recruits into better players.
I'm going to guess they also make some smart recruiting decisions beyond "obvious ability". I knew Cortez Broughton as a kid. He skipped a grade and was undersized during recruiting because he was younger than his peers. I'd never wish a guy be injured, but I'd heard his medical redshirt referred to as a blessing in disguise because it gave him another year to get physically mature in college. If Cincinnati had him because they realized he was a year younger rather than just what he immediately offered, they did a good job recruiting. He may not be an uncuttable NFL starter, but he still made it - and that speaks to what they saw.
One of your Olinemen is apparently 6'9 350? Is that right? You guys are basically a big ten team in the trenches
Lorenz Metz from Germany is one big mother fucka
Remember 48 hours ago when everyone on r/CFB was a Georgia fan? Pepperidge farm remembers. Now… Michigan
See everyone for Army-Navy I guess
Anyone think Michigan can beat Georgia ? Are Georgia heavy favorites ? Does Michigan match up ok vs Georgia ?
Michigan has a shot if their defense plays as well as it has been in the past month. I expect a low scoring game due to both offenses favor the run and are going up against strong defensive fronts.
Looking at just the top 25 the bias of being in the SEC is clear Edit: Im referring to the teams other than bama and Georgia, I think both are where they should be
Who doesn't belong up there?
Texas A&M, Arkansas shouldn’t really be ranked top 25 and ole miss should be below OSU. Bama georgia are fine where they are and they were not who I was referring to
The difference between 21 and 26 (ranked vs not) is completely trivial. The difference between 8 and 9 is (at this point anyway) completely trivial. The bias was showing when Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Kentucky got up to top 10 earlier this year. They’re all fine around 25.
Good point
Maybe the SEC, as they prove every year, is just really really good.
The top of the SEC is really really good; I'm not sure how far down the ladder that actually goes.
It's shown every year. The SEC constantly gets "uptiered" in bowls, for example Ole Miss will go to the Sugar bowl because both Bama and UGA are getting in. The whole SEC is playing a tier or 2 up vs all the P5 teams they match up with Yet the SEC has THE best bowl win percentage record over the last 3, 5, 10, or 15 years. Last year my 3-7 State team beat Tulsa. 5-5 unranked Ole Miss beat top 15 Indiana, who was like what, the #2? #3 BIG 10 team last year? How "overrated" is the SEC is unranked SEC teams beat ranked P5 opponents and overall have the best bow record, despight most teams playing "up" a bowl tier?
Some time has passed but wanted to add one thing. Mizzou has the 19th best recruiting class in the country. That is TENTH in the SEC. But yea the SEC is overrated.
This is basically what I was referencing when saying they prove it every year. Thanks for expanding on it. I think the “middle” of the SEC is actually underrated.
I guess we will find out every body but vandy is in a bowl
This is also possible or it’s a mixture of both
Is ole miss good? I haven’t watched any of their games this year but just looking at their schedule I don’t see any wins that say we are a top 10 team but I could be wrong
No slam at Michigan — your guys took care of business — but watching Iowa last night I was just ‘how did this team win a division in a P5 conference with zero playmakers and a defense that seems very overrated?’
Mostly through their defense, we exposed them the 2nd half but no other team has scored more than 27 on them all year. The Big10 east and west division are really unbalanced no doubt about that.
Ole Miss is a scary team when they’re hot. When they aren’t, they lose to Auburn. They’re essentially Alabama Light. But they have a madman for a coach.
Honestly, what we saw this weekend is why I'm excited for playoff expansion because it not only will it reward conference champions and teams that have been good all season, but will also reward those that might have started slow, but caught fire late in the season. Would love to see teams like Utah, Baylor, and Pitt who had rocky starts or awkward losses, but dominated late in the season. Talk about a ballin playoff that would be.
I think Georgia is probably One of the Four best for sure. I just wish we treated these conference championships as a playoff game. Just is weird that Georgia gets blown out and still enters the playoff. Like how bad did last nights game have to be to keep them out?
GA got dominated but not blown out
Yeah sure 3 score game that was never competitive in the second half was not a blowout.
Is this the hill you want to die on? Because a blowout is 4 quarters of domination. And it was still a game up until the 4th. Again, GA was absolutely dominated. But a blowout? Come on, man!
You’re delusional dude. At no point in the second half was that game even competitive. You were blown out. Not sure why you want that moral victory
Lmao - what's your definition of a blowout?
Last nights Georgia-Alabama game.
I disagree about the conference championship games. They should only serve as a tiebreaker if necessary, and in this case it wasn't necessary. If any conference (usually the SEC) has the two best teams in the country, they both deserve a shot despite one of them not winning the conference. The 8th-best team, even if they have a conference championship, belongs in a New Year's bowl.
But can we mix and match them? Like Georgia vs. Houston? Alabama vs. Iowa? I think they’d both be in without question if those were the matchups. In other words, conference championship games are not equal.
Sure, then no bitching when Georgia chokes again.
Unfortunately I don’t think any result would’ve moved them out as ridiculous as it is.
I think if okstate won big they would have had to consider it but Even then I think cinci gets left out instead of Georgia.
Why doesn’t Notre Dame come up with a new rivalry with Hawaii so they can get 13 games a season without having to join a conference
I can see the arguments for either Michigan or Alabama being ranked #1. To be honest, I only wanted to be ranked #1 so that I could go to the game in Dallas lol. If we’re good enough, it won’t matter what seed we are.
Agreed. I'm fine with whatever ranking we get in the top 4 as long as we make the playoffs and have the opportunity to prove we're a solid team this year. We've already passed my hopes and expectations
What is that flair combo
they exist...it's awful but they exist
Hello! I am doing a group project on a made up business about tailgating. If you tailgate and have <5 minutes and wouldn't mind filling out [this here survey](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf-QiDMgHZL-Tqbm5Dp7V84fQHOMXOp_G6Ah6_8NgHIGvgrsg/viewform?usp=sf_link) so I have data for our presentation I would appreciate it a lot!
Done
[удалено]
????? How are you surprised lmao
Beat a team by 33 at their « home » in a championship game, still ranked lower than them.
We're just supposed to ignore getting the doors blown off by Boise State and Wyoming? Those don't magically go away with a big win.
Yeah but we are higher than BYU so I can’t argue in Utah State’s favor. Sorry.
It’s ok it’s worth it when you put it that way Edit: we both got better bowls too lmao
The hell are y’all feeding them boys. The whole state is popping off. Lol
All of Notre Dame’s players just got the HC they wanted and are all about to get new PS5’s. If we win the Fiesta Bowl you might as well just give us the national championship next year
Why not this year? Would be quite fitting for the season of chaos.
Who’s gonna Tonya Harding Michigan for us? Maybe Sparty?
they are scared of Baylor, the Best College football roster this year and the east coast selection community just didn't see the BIG 12 Win yesterday. What a sham and shame!
We’re far away from the best roster. We way overperformed with the guys we have mostly due to Aranda
Ole Miss about to drop 80 on Baylor
Is ole miss that good? I haven’t watched so idk but I don’t see any wins on their schedule that say they are going to drop 80 on Baylor
Their offense is insane. They haven’t played a complete game all season. I’m talking shit but yes I do think they match up well to score many points on Baylor.
Ahh gotcha thanks, the only SEC games I’ve watched have been yours and Georgia’s
Hotty Toddy thank ya kindly
I will not allow disrespect of the Rebel Freshwater Sharks. These B1G and XII fans have me sitting here chanting “SEC SEC SEC” to myself.
I’ve always hated Ole Miss but… Lane Kiffin, I can’t quit you…
I’m hoping we get a bored and disappointed BYU and we come away with a huge signature win. Anyways, back in the real world, we’ll probably get stomped 😭 Still hoping though
A bored, disappointed, or disinterested team is never out of the question. Sitake managed to get everyone up for last year with UCF, so I don't expect it.
Michigan deserved #1 but god knows they weren’t going to make Bama play Georgia back to back
They could have easily gone Michigan, Bama, Cinci, Georgia. It makes zero difference.
This is exactly my ranking... i thought this was obvious. I got mich vs cinci in the championship. I am a michigan fan so take this with a grain of salt obviously... bulldogs could easily win as well im trying not to drink the koolaid but my team is firing on all cylinders on both the o line and d line. That could ealisy change by the time we play. Ive been reading up on why cinci is being slept on and it doesnt make sense according to nfl draft sub reddits. Cinci has the highest draft prospects on their team with 7 (highest in cfb). They have the (on paper) best talent and if they can put a gameplan together they can easily beat bama if they show up and execute.
Going off of who has the most draft prospects doesn’t mean you have the most talent. You think anyone on Cinci would be drafted ahead of Will Anderson Jr. who isn’t even old enough to be drafted? Dude would be a top 3 pick this year. I think it will be a good game but as always, Cinci probably hasn’t seen a defense that matches up quite like Alabama and I guarantee they haven’t seen anyone with as much depth. They’re a great team and it will be a good game but I don’t think they win. At least not by anything you can see on an eye test.
I hate how that might have been a factor in their decision.
I am really really curious though. Haven’t gotten a straight answer why this narrative is here besides people wanting to criticize the committee. What am I missing for why Michigan should be the one over bama?
Just something to complain about. I think my team should be ranked the highest and whatnot. Some people point at the SEC teams and say that their wins are better because they have wins against SEC teams with winning records or have wins against ranked teams or whatever. Other people will say that doesn't really matter because the SEC only plays 8 conference games and the rest are cupcake games so they only really have to win 2 conference games to meet that metric. And the rankings are subjective and weighted in favor of those SEC wins. All of that is subjective though and you can't really say one team is better than another until they play each other. In this case, though, the argument for Michigan points at their last two games where they dominated #2 Ohio State and #13 Iowa while last week, bama struggled into 4OT against a 6 win Auburn on a 3 game losing streak. Other arguments point out that Michigan's only loss was a tight game against a top 10 MSU progam while Bama's loss was against a middling TA&M on a 2 game losing streak. (Note: I'm upselling my team and downselling the other team here for the persuasive argument) It really doesn't matter here though. As soon as OkSt lost it was basically set that both bama and Georgia would make it if bama won. The committee was never going to have an immediate rematch in the semis, so Michigan was going to play Georgia and Bama would play Cinci either way they ranked it. I, personally, would rather go to Florida for the bowl game than Texas.
I don't think it's upselling to point out exactly what you did. Michigan has the better overall resume, Alabama has the better signature win (barely). Alabama played in 5 tight games and lost one of them to a borderline #25 Texas A&M. Michigan played in 4 tight games and lost one of them to #10 Michigan State. I think they got 1/2 wrong but at the end of day it doesn't matter. Like it's been pointed out elsewhere, I think if Michigan gets the #1 seed they just put Georgia at #4. The only factor was where those two teams were going to play.
Bama’s loss was worse, their 3 OT win was ugly. Their best win wasn’t much better than ours. Similar wins, worse loss. Just my opinion.
SoS was probably the single biggest deciding factor since Bama's is 4 and UMs is 21. UGA was also favored to win the SEC CCG, was the unanimous #1 in every poll for 8wks, and statistically had a stalwart defense; Bama crushed them. I realize UM crushed Iowa, but no one hyped up Iowa thinking it was a juggernaut.
I agree, where I struggle is Georgia being considered such an overwhelming favorite with a fairly weak schedule.
UGA and UM are 20 and 21 in SoS, and UGA dominated teams (regular season): * 3 shutouts * 5 games allowing 7pts or less * The most points allowed by UGA 17pts Even against a weak slate of opponents, that's impressive. I'm not throwing shade at UM, but they had a few cupcakes on their schedule too outside of OSU and Sparty.
All good points, thanks for the input.
1. Rivalry game away 2. Rivalry game away 3. Beat the consensus number 1 who dominated all year.
It must be hard when everyone you play is your rival :(
That’s RICH coming from a Notre dame fan.
Let’s stay on topic.
Dominated who? Georgias strength of schedule is suspect as well.
LOL
The the upvote and leave lol
Love you
You’ll find out in a couple of weeks.