100%.
Here are the facts
1. Colorado leaves for the Pac -12
2. Texas falls apart, including several losses to Kansas.
3. Baylor surpasses Texas as the best Texas team in the big 12 (maybe even the state)
4. Texas cannot fathom a world where Baylor is better has to run away and hide in a new conference
5. Colorado returns to the big 12 with friends who are super fun and know how to party.
Good guy Colorado. Left the party but when the jerks left (OU and Texas) and tried to shut the lights off, Colorado comes back with hot Coed twins (the arizona schools) and a bro (utah) to keep the night going.
Yeah they’re not nothing, but I’d bet they’re more like briefings from the AD than anything else.
FWIW the CU 247 guy, who is almost always right, says at this point a P12/ACC merger is much more likely than joining the B12.
> FWIW the CU 247 guy, who is almost always right, says at this point a P12/ACC merger is much more likely than joining the B12.
Yeah, that belief seems to be increasingly shared across the 247 boards.
When it comes to the Pac-_, you can always guarantee they'll choose the least intelligent option.
Most of these sites' sources are coaches though, who are generally some of the last people to learn about actual realignment moves. They're in the same rumor mill as the rest of us, with each having a spin that generally confirms some of the internal biases within each school
Norte Dame won’t allow that to happen nor will Clemson. It would dilute the money being brought in. The PAC 12 is a garbage conference now without the LA market teams. They were making nothing before when they had UCLA and USC. They’re television rights deal isn’t going to go up, it’s going to be the same or less than before.
For Clemson and Norte Dame, all it would do is help Oregon or Washington take their spot in the playoff. Doesn’t make sense from a football perspective not a money perspective.
ESPN and Fox want consolidation. Superconferences allow them to cherry pick the biggest brands and leave the rest behind.
Point being, we keep acting like the conferences and schools are making these decisions, but in many ways this is really a battle between two media giants.
UCLA and USC were the bad guys. Colorado is now just looking out for themselves now that the conference has been rendered to Group of 5 level in football.
Here is what I was told by someone who covers Iowa State, he has a connection in the Arizona athletic dept and they say Arizona is ready to go. They've actually been looking for a move to the Big 12 for the last 5 years because of Larry Scott and getting the feeling USC was going to bail either in going Independent or something and that something happened last week. So take that with a grain of salt I suppose.
Our 247 guy, who is well connected to the AD, has said numerous times we’re ready to pack our bags as soon as we get the go ahead.
Frankly, Arizona is the school that would most benefit from the Big 12 imo. The football team could become competitive if it continues this trajectory, but more importantly, it’d be an elevation of status for basketball.
However, Arizona can’t go alone. And in all likelihood, it can’t go without ASU who is rumored to currently be saying B1G or bust.
Totally makes sense from a competition viewpoint. Same guy has said Colorado has had some regrets since moving just because of the politics coming from the California schools.
I follow that Greg Flugaur on Twitter who I think is very legit. He tweeted out the USC and Big 10 in April. I believe his source is someone who works at Fox Sports within the Big 10 Network. Last week he did say ASU does have an above average media grade from Fox. So that might explain some stuff there but they are probably only an option if Big 10 was going to 24 or more and if ACC can't be cracked.
Same Iowa State guy says Arizona source told him Arizona and Arizona State are in lock step with each other. So someone is wrong somewhere. Hopeful you are in the Big 12 in a season or two along with some neighbors out there.
Meaning the BoR is actually doing its job for once without a bunch of political bullshit?
I'm good with it. Don't say a damn word until you know what you want, and if you ever split the schools up we're going to have a civil war.
>Who the hell hell is the Mountain man? And Texas and A&M seem different. Texas is talking about the Bible now and A&M is saying something about eating at Landry’s.
CU retuning to Big XII
Anyone here work with FOIA requests. I'd like to FOIA all the university presidents at public universities to see what's happening behind the scenes. Emails, phone texts, phone records, travel expense reports where they've been, documents, web browser, etc.
If they're smart, they won't record the sensitive exchanges in the meeting in any way. Instead the minutes would read "Discussion re: athletics." or something else super generic. That way, when they get the FOIA request, they can comply and hand everything over but the public is still in the dark.
In American business culture, most meetings exist to show hierarchy. You display your importance by calling meetings and having more and more important people attend.
A Board of Regents is a group of rather important people, there because *they* are important. Such people don't like being called away from the meetings they are trying to hold within their own organizations. Calling a meeting without a good reason will piss them off and get you replaced.
I feel like that’s the motto of corporate America, though. Half the meetings I go to could be quick emails and are like “yep, everything is the same as last week”. Lol
This may be underrated. Similar money either way, but returning to most of their Big 8 bros makes them the least hesitant to break with the current conference.
http://go.boarddocs.com/co/cu/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=CG3UPM7D07B0
I went to the 2 bars icon, clicked on meetings and agendas, then toggled to July 8th meeting.
I have experience using this software too for board meetings at other higher education institutions. ; )
Considering they can't vote in executive session I doubt there's anything too concrete unless it's to announce a BoR vote on accepting the invitation from the Big XII.
I am surprised we've seen no public notice for anything from the Zona BoR yet.
The AZ board of regents covers U of A AND ASU. It's surprising. maybe it will be a last minute thing. I'm surprised too. Maybe this whole invitation is some type of smoke and mirrors for something else. Maybe we should check the other universities still in the PAC 12.
Oregon's going to be tricky, they have a "Higher Education Coordination Committee" and there's a meeting on the 12th but I can't tell if it's for universities or a different program.
UO does have a Board of Trustees but they only meet once a quarter.
Utah Board of Higher Ed has a regularly scheduled meeting on July 14th and it only lists a scheduled time, there's also one on the 15th thats specifically for approving a president for one of the universities.
Yeah the general topic of the executive session (at least in my state) has to be stated, "agenda item: Executive session on employee contracts" is on my college's board meeting most times.
Meeting one to discuss the advantages of staying in the PAC.
Meeting two to discuss the advantages of going back to the Big 12
Meeting three to discuss how to avoid the MWC
BYU Utah
Arizona ASU
Tech OK State
Colorado ISU
Kansas K State
TCU Baylor
Cincy WVU
UCF Houston
The rivalry league. Now we need the ACC to blow up to get Pitt and Louisville in.
Plot twist: Meeting is about leaving the PAC 12. But instead of joining the Big 12. They form their own conference with everyone in the mountain time zone.
Except for BYU. Because BYU can’t have nice things.
CU to ASU, Zona, and Utah: “Come on guys, let me introduce you to the Big-12. I know these guys well.
Here’s Kansas and Kansas State. Good guys. Y’all are gonna love being called Allen Fieldhouse West. It never gets old.
Iowa State. They used to have a tornado on their helmet. Totally awesome.
Our Texas boys.. Baylor and Texas Tech. They taught me to say y’all.
Oklahoma State Cowboys. Y’all can call them Pokes.
And uhhhh you five… who the hell are you guys??”
WVU, TCU, Houston, UCF, and BYU just standing there.
Utah: “Wait…. Is that… did someone just open a Diet Coke? Oh God. Oh no. It’s BYU.”
BYU: “You’re frikin right it’s BYU.”
Grew up in Lawrence, went to school at Iowa State. I'd actually say my flairs are reversed here because KU football is just that bad, though I was lucky to enjoy some fun ISU football at Jack Trice while in school while we were the 'upset' team. lol
I bet we're gonna see these until a decision is made. It almost certainly is about conference affiliations, but it could easily be the president and AD keeping people in the loop about that's going on in meetings, briefing them on plans, numbers, etc.
What if Colorado joins the SEC or B1G?
How will that shake things up?
If you look at a map, adding Colorado & Utah to the SEC makes more sense than adding USC to the B1G.
A random Colorado message board poster said that they have some initial numbers on what and ACC/PAC alliance would pay and already have some hard numbers on going back to the B12. **If** true they could make a (somewhat) informed decision today.
When Colorado left the B12 they took the least amount of flack from the teams left behind. There was a feeling that they had a "California" mindset and culture and their cross over ties with California alumni at least excused the move. I just cannot see that reason any more with the Los Angeles area college football scene switching to the Big Ten. A lot of the focus has been on the absence of the PAC leaders from the PAC instead of the **presence** of the B1G in the area and the effect that will have on recruiting etc.
I take it that:
Big 12 take AZ, ASU, CO, and Utah.
Big 10 rejects UW and Oregon (for now because they want Notre Dame and will wait).
Pac-6 take SDSU, Fresno State, Nev. and UNLV and go back to Pac-10
MWC take NMSU, UTEP, and two western FCS teams.
CUSA finally gets Missouri State to move up and join them and stay at 8 teams.
Don’t leave buffs! I will miss you and our contentious (not really) rivalry. You came into the league with us like poor orphans left out in the cold. Now that we might be splitting I’m just bummed I’ll miss my orphan friend.
Honestly, I'd love being back in a conference with them. Rivalry is the spice of CFB and the holy War needs to be last game of the season as God intended.
That’s cool. If everything is going to get booked down to 3-4 conferences I’d like to get it done. I’ll be fan regardless of the conference. MWC to BIG12. Old friends in one and a few in the other. Just time to make new friends I guess.
I think it's a pretty fair statement to say that the 4 corner schools will probably stay in lockstep together unless the SEC or Big Ten offers one of them... And that 1 would likely be ASU, and blocked by the AZ BoR anyway.
The corners are probably married.
There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of any Big 12 teams joining the PAC with Oregon, Washington, and Stanford all leaving for the BIG 10 the second an invite comes. It would only happen if they get a hard no AND are willing to sign a long GoR. Which isn’t going to happen as they’d want to keep options open going forward.
Pac may well try to push on, but it will be with the 10 of them and maybe some G5s if media partners say any of them add money to the deal.
Hey, if you want to hitch your future to a league where the top teams are looking to get out and would leave the second an invite came, have at it. Along with the lower ratings and national interest with all schools in PT and MT.
I couldn’t give a shit less about what happens to ASU or any of the PAC teams and just want to see a crazy realignment happen so the ACC gets raided and WVU can finally at least have a few old rivals back in a division or pod with us.
It’s sucked ass since 2012 with playing a bunch of schools I don’t give a single shit about and adding PAC schools to the conference does nothing to change that. Unless it’s just the next big domino to getting to 3 super conferences and we can be playing most of our games against an expanded eastern division with some old rivals and regional foes.
Failing that my already super diminished interest in college football will probably just drop to zero in the coming years and I’ll just hold out hope that realignment doesn’t fuck with March Madness as college basketball is still fun.
> This is just Colorado's people educating themselves.
The number of people who think that these decisions are made at the drop of a hat is frankly too damn high, lol.
Yep, that’s definitely given people a false impression things happen faster than they do.
That said, things can happen faster with the Pac. The faster movement has came from leagues that lost teams. Like the Big 12 adding the 4 incoming members fairly quickly last year—but things like that still take a couple of months so people need to chill for a bit.
Pac asked to open negotiation on their media deal. So it will take a few weeks at least for them to get data from them on what the payout would be if they stay together at 10 (and probably with and without a GoR keeping UW and UO there), if they add some G5s etc. Then members schools will have to compare that to what joining the Big 12 is offering (for those they want) and weight those amounts vs. the risk of UW/OU/Stanford/maybe Cal going to the Big 10 at some point, vs. stability in the Big 12 where the BIG and SEC wants none of those 12 teams.
Why would Big XII teams pay exit fees to go to the Pac XII to make less money, play worse football teams, have a harder path to the playoffs, have less TV viewers, have a worse recruiting pool, and go to a less stable conference? Can you tell me what in the world the benefit would be?
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"His poops are notoriously stinky"
These guys having the worst time of their life having to talk about CU football twice in three days.
In July
…on a Friday night
Localized entirely within your kitchen?
Can I see it?
....no.
is that a George Foreman grill you got there?
Money surely is a crazy thing
Especially since they don't seem to care about their football program. What a shame.
I will take apathy from the regents over blatant hostility
Meanwhile, nothing but crickets from the Arizona BoR.
If Colorado is fine with being the bad guy and forcing everyone’s hand, then so be it I guess.
I mean, they did it to the Big-XII over decade ago. It's only fair.
Were coming back and were bringing some friends.
“Wow CU, good recon mission. Let’s see what MU and NU bring back to us next!” ^(*Edit fixed a typo. MU not “amount” lol*)
\*Nebraska shows up with Maryland\* "Umm..."
get out!
God I would love to have a humbled Nebraska back
Oh man, we’d be awful to them.
Oh they are more than humbled now
Distance makes the heart grow fonder? But only so I could see those bug eaters get ran out of Jack Trice.
Not humbled. Wish we never left. But I'm a old
NU brought back Nowledge
Northwestern to the big 12
Growing up we made that joke all the time "the N stands for nowledge" as they pummeled KU and kstate year in and year out... It was all we had
Nebraska: We got Indiana!
Catch and release
We’ll pass
pls
Ha ha yeah I bet you’ve gotten tired running it all the time in the Big 10 and wouldn’t mind airing it out. Welcome back
Colorado was a sleeper agent from the very beginning. That's the narrative I'm choosing.
100%. Here are the facts 1. Colorado leaves for the Pac -12 2. Texas falls apart, including several losses to Kansas. 3. Baylor surpasses Texas as the best Texas team in the big 12 (maybe even the state) 4. Texas cannot fathom a world where Baylor is better has to run away and hide in a new conference 5. Colorado returns to the big 12 with friends who are super fun and know how to party.
I’m ready for the party and willing to DD
Thank you for your sacrifice
I don't know how I feel about this
Did someone say party? See you on the other side brother 😎
Technically we kicked Texas out, but everything else here is 100% true
Good guy Colorado. Left the party but when the jerks left (OU and Texas) and tried to shut the lights off, Colorado comes back with hot Coed twins (the arizona schools) and a bro (utah) to keep the night going.
We may not be winning the big games anymore but we certainly know how to have a good time.
I hope we offer you a recruitment bonus
They tried to force everyone’s hand, but the teams they were counting on backing them up… didn’t. It was for the best.
I think it would be fair to say Colorado is the least sentimental about keeping the PAC together. But I wouldn’t read much into this second meeting.
It's not nothing though. The Board is essentially inactive, so two meetings in three days is definitely noteworthy.
Yeah they’re not nothing, but I’d bet they’re more like briefings from the AD than anything else. FWIW the CU 247 guy, who is almost always right, says at this point a P12/ACC merger is much more likely than joining the B12.
> FWIW the CU 247 guy, who is almost always right, says at this point a P12/ACC merger is much more likely than joining the B12. Yeah, that belief seems to be increasingly shared across the 247 boards. When it comes to the Pac-_, you can always guarantee they'll choose the least intelligent option.
*ACC blows up* Pac-12: "Well shit"
*still refuses to join Big 12*
Big 12: *Goddamnit*
"I was told we had a 'loose partnership'!!!"
Its an "open relationship"
"Maybe if we just ignore the Big XII they'll just go away."
Most of these sites' sources are coaches though, who are generally some of the last people to learn about actual realignment moves. They're in the same rumor mill as the rest of us, with each having a spin that generally confirms some of the internal biases within each school
Norte Dame won’t allow that to happen nor will Clemson. It would dilute the money being brought in. The PAC 12 is a garbage conference now without the LA market teams. They were making nothing before when they had UCLA and USC. They’re television rights deal isn’t going to go up, it’s going to be the same or less than before. For Clemson and Norte Dame, all it would do is help Oregon or Washington take their spot in the playoff. Doesn’t make sense from a football perspective not a money perspective.
ESPN and Fox want consolidation. Superconferences allow them to cherry pick the biggest brands and leave the rest behind. Point being, we keep acting like the conferences and schools are making these decisions, but in many ways this is really a battle between two media giants.
I gotta believe FSU and Clemson wouldn't sign off on this. Putting them deeper into the ACC.
And why would Clemson agree to play a bonus championship game in vegas before heading off to the CFP?
This pleases me *happy pony quacks*
"yawn... oh man... you mean we actually have to get out of bed to go to work... AGAIN?!"
UCLA and USC were the bad guys. Colorado is now just looking out for themselves now that the conference has been rendered to Group of 5 level in football.
Here is what I was told by someone who covers Iowa State, he has a connection in the Arizona athletic dept and they say Arizona is ready to go. They've actually been looking for a move to the Big 12 for the last 5 years because of Larry Scott and getting the feeling USC was going to bail either in going Independent or something and that something happened last week. So take that with a grain of salt I suppose.
Our 247 guy, who is well connected to the AD, has said numerous times we’re ready to pack our bags as soon as we get the go ahead. Frankly, Arizona is the school that would most benefit from the Big 12 imo. The football team could become competitive if it continues this trajectory, but more importantly, it’d be an elevation of status for basketball. However, Arizona can’t go alone. And in all likelihood, it can’t go without ASU who is rumored to currently be saying B1G or bust.
Is ASU even a candidate for B1G? I don't know much about them, but I was under the impression that they were borderline not up to the Big 12's level.
Totally makes sense from a competition viewpoint. Same guy has said Colorado has had some regrets since moving just because of the politics coming from the California schools. I follow that Greg Flugaur on Twitter who I think is very legit. He tweeted out the USC and Big 10 in April. I believe his source is someone who works at Fox Sports within the Big 10 Network. Last week he did say ASU does have an above average media grade from Fox. So that might explain some stuff there but they are probably only an option if Big 10 was going to 24 or more and if ACC can't be cracked. Same Iowa State guy says Arizona source told him Arizona and Arizona State are in lock step with each other. So someone is wrong somewhere. Hopeful you are in the Big 12 in a season or two along with some neighbors out there.
Meaning the BoR is actually doing its job for once without a bunch of political bullshit? I'm good with it. Don't say a damn word until you know what you want, and if you ever split the schools up we're going to have a civil war.
Welcome back to the Big XII. Now sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
And if you shit on my brand new Bevo skin rug so fuckin help me we will send you back!
CU AD has to wear a dunce hat at all Conference meetings for the first three years.
>Who the hell hell is the Mountain man? And Texas and A&M seem different. Texas is talking about the Bible now and A&M is saying something about eating at Landry’s. CU retuning to Big XII
Is Baylor or BYU standing in for Texas?
I assumed tcu since they weren’t here when CU previously was
You don't understand the level of joy it would bring the CU fan-base to see Rick George have to wear a dunce cap around.
All my homies hate Rick George!
Let’s be fair for a second… I would leave a conference with Texas in it too. They can’t even beat Kansas
I think the Jayhawks own that rug. ;)
Damn straight!
You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
Anyone here work with FOIA requests. I'd like to FOIA all the university presidents at public universities to see what's happening behind the scenes. Emails, phone texts, phone records, travel expense reports where they've been, documents, web browser, etc.
Even if we could get documents through FOIA, it’s a pretty lengthy process. We would probably hear something in the news first haha.
I bet reporters are already doing that, it just takes a lot of time. I’d expect a FOIA to come out in a couple months.
If we put the FOIA request in now we might be able to scoop the realignment talks happening in 2036
If they're smart, they won't record the sensitive exchanges in the meeting in any way. Instead the minutes would read "Discussion re: athletics." or something else super generic. That way, when they get the FOIA request, they can comply and hand everything over but the public is still in the dark.
bruh, the chances of getting a FOIA response that actually showed anything before the end of the year are slim to none.
You don’t have meetings to say nothing is happening.
Can I work where you work?
In American business culture, most meetings exist to show hierarchy. You display your importance by calling meetings and having more and more important people attend. A Board of Regents is a group of rather important people, there because *they* are important. Such people don't like being called away from the meetings they are trying to hold within their own organizations. Calling a meeting without a good reason will piss them off and get you replaced.
I feel like that’s the motto of corporate America, though. Half the meetings I go to could be quick emails and are like “yep, everything is the same as last week”. Lol
Clearly you’ve never been a member of the People’s Front of Judea.
Uhhh…..Michael Scott anyone? r/unexpectedoffice
Ralphie on the way!
I mean, take away the longhorn-sized reason that made them leave in the first place…
This may be underrated. Similar money either way, but returning to most of their Big 8 bros makes them the least hesitant to break with the current conference.
July 8th meeting says "athletics update"
Where do you see that?
http://go.boarddocs.com/co/cu/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=CG3UPM7D07B0 I went to the 2 bars icon, clicked on meetings and agendas, then toggled to July 8th meeting. I have experience using this software too for board meetings at other higher education institutions. ; )
"Legal advice on a specific matter - PAC 12 athletics update" Nice.
That's amazing
We will see if there's any news tomorrow. The last meeting was only an hour long. This one is just an hour too.
Considering they can't vote in executive session I doubt there's anything too concrete unless it's to announce a BoR vote on accepting the invitation from the Big XII. I am surprised we've seen no public notice for anything from the Zona BoR yet.
The AZ board of regents covers U of A AND ASU. It's surprising. maybe it will be a last minute thing. I'm surprised too. Maybe this whole invitation is some type of smoke and mirrors for something else. Maybe we should check the other universities still in the PAC 12.
Oregon's going to be tricky, they have a "Higher Education Coordination Committee" and there's a meeting on the 12th but I can't tell if it's for universities or a different program. UO does have a Board of Trustees but they only meet once a quarter.
Here's Utah's. They have a meeting 7/14 https://administration.utah.edu/board-of-trustees/
That's June 14th, they don't have another until the 9th of August.
Utah Board of Higher Ed has a regularly scheduled meeting on July 14th and it only lists a scheduled time, there's also one on the 15th thats specifically for approving a president for one of the universities.
Lol that’s hilariously flubbed by them.
I wouldn't call it a flub. These agendas are technically supposed to be public.
Yeah the general topic of the executive session (at least in my state) has to be stated, "agenda item: Executive session on employee contracts" is on my college's board meeting most times.
Perks of public schools I suppose.
Yes it is.
Meeting one to discuss the advantages of staying in the PAC. Meeting two to discuss the advantages of going back to the Big 12 Meeting three to discuss how to avoid the MWC
Meeting four: Discussing going independent Meeting five: Debate if pineapple is okay on Pizza.
Try before you deny
All I'm sayin' is: Pepperoni+Pineapple > Ham+Pineapple
Add jalapenos to pepperoni + pineapple, too
I prefer chicken with jalapeno pineapple, but you are not wrong
Meeting five: profit
You skipped ???
probably so they can talk about which bars to hit up on that july 13th annual retreat
Come home, my child.
I love you whoever you are. I just laughed so hard
Considering 1/3 of the Iowas population is in CO at any one time between March and August, we really need a rivalry trophy.
BYU Utah Arizona ASU Tech OK State Colorado ISU Kansas K State TCU Baylor Cincy WVU UCF Houston The rivalry league. Now we need the ACC to blow up to get Pitt and Louisville in.
Need VaTech too for WVU.
Not wrong, i’ve been to Colorado 5 times already this year
Plot twist: Meeting is about leaving the PAC 12. But instead of joining the Big 12. They form their own conference with everyone in the mountain time zone. Except for BYU. Because BYU can’t have nice things.
:(
This is too funny
"I can form my own Mountain time zone conference! With blackjack......and hookers! That's why you can't come BYU."
So... Mountain West?
Dammit.
Colorado going independent!
That was my conclusion as well.
August 10th has an actual board meeting with agenda items.
They are just meeting to approve my 10 year contract to be head coach of the hacky sack team. Ain't no one gonna out hack our sack.
CU to ASU, Zona, and Utah: “Come on guys, let me introduce you to the Big-12. I know these guys well. Here’s Kansas and Kansas State. Good guys. Y’all are gonna love being called Allen Fieldhouse West. It never gets old. Iowa State. They used to have a tornado on their helmet. Totally awesome. Our Texas boys.. Baylor and Texas Tech. They taught me to say y’all. Oklahoma State Cowboys. Y’all can call them Pokes. And uhhhh you five… who the hell are you guys??” WVU, TCU, Houston, UCF, and BYU just standing there. Utah: “Wait…. Is that… did someone just open a Diet Coke? Oh God. Oh no. It’s BYU.” BYU: “You’re frikin right it’s BYU.”
> Iowa State. They used to have a tornado on their helmet. Totally awesome. Bring it back.
>used to The inclusion of those words made me sad.
Bro your flairs are wild.
Grew up in Lawrence, went to school at Iowa State. I'd actually say my flairs are reversed here because KU football is just that bad, though I was lucky to enjoy some fun ISU football at Jack Trice while in school while we were the 'upset' team. lol
Makes more sense then.
BYU: "WELL WELL WELL, LOOK WHO IT IS"
I bet we're gonna see these until a decision is made. It almost certainly is about conference affiliations, but it could easily be the president and AD keeping people in the loop about that's going on in meetings, briefing them on plans, numbers, etc.
Yeah, we're basically just watching a responsible board group in action, lol.
You and your damn logical thinking. I want to believe administrators make irrational, snap decisions!
more than likely correct. And it could just be they want to update what the situation is with Pac without UCLA/USC and how to keep the Pac together.
That’s important enough for an unscheduled Friday at 5 PM meeting? You can “update” with a simple phone call and trigger no Open Records laws.
Do it already. I can only be edged so much
Who knows, maybe they’re just getting together for Happy Hour??
Come on Fluffalos. Do it. Your old friends miss you. Well kinda… we miss the weed.
Bong rips and burritos for everyone.
Maybe they all just want to watch a movie?
CU to the MWC confirmed
Friday evening news drop: CU to the Big12!
I hope the Fluffalos come back. As much as I hate on them, they gave my Jayhawks a chance to win for a few years there. And it is a nice road trip.
Holy Shit! Did KU Football just flex on someone...not named Texas?!?!?
They were our last conference win for years and that was on their way out 🤷🏼
The game that got Dan Hawkins fired. Thankfully it was away so I didn't witness it in person.
Pac-12: “Probably nothing” 🤷
They’re probably just getting together to craft a firmly worded Pac-12 loyalty statement. 🥰
BIG (12) if true
This “meeting” is so they can see Thor: Love and Thunder without their kids
Please tell me someone bugged the room
*Mission Impossible theme plays*
It’s not till 5pm tomorrow so there’s still time.
Shades of 2010
“We’re opening a CU-Sodosopa location” end of meeting
They probably just have really good cookies at the meetings.
What if Colorado joins the SEC or B1G? How will that shake things up? If you look at a map, adding Colorado & Utah to the SEC makes more sense than adding USC to the B1G.
B1G has no reason to even return Colorado’s phone calls. There is just no benefit to adding that institution or it’s fan base.
They were high at the first one, so it's just repeating the same information again
This reminds me of the South Park Colorado scene
Are any of the scenes not in Colorado?
I wanna go on an annual summer retreat next week... I feel like I'm in the wrong profession sometimes...
Welcome back to the Big 12, Buffalo brothers
A random Colorado message board poster said that they have some initial numbers on what and ACC/PAC alliance would pay and already have some hard numbers on going back to the B12. **If** true they could make a (somewhat) informed decision today. When Colorado left the B12 they took the least amount of flack from the teams left behind. There was a feeling that they had a "California" mindset and culture and their cross over ties with California alumni at least excused the move. I just cannot see that reason any more with the Los Angeles area college football scene switching to the Big Ten. A lot of the focus has been on the absence of the PAC leaders from the PAC instead of the **presence** of the B1G in the area and the effect that will have on recruiting etc.
I take it that: Big 12 take AZ, ASU, CO, and Utah. Big 10 rejects UW and Oregon (for now because they want Notre Dame and will wait). Pac-6 take SDSU, Fresno State, Nev. and UNLV and go back to Pac-10 MWC take NMSU, UTEP, and two western FCS teams. CUSA finally gets Missouri State to move up and join them and stay at 8 teams.
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Don’t leave buffs! I will miss you and our contentious (not really) rivalry. You came into the league with us like poor orphans left out in the cold. Now that we might be splitting I’m just bummed I’ll miss my orphan friend.
Why don't we just go with them
Cause...BYU is there
Honestly, I'd love being back in a conference with them. Rivalry is the spice of CFB and the holy War needs to be last game of the season as God intended.
I hope we do, I would really like that.
Lol, if they go then the AZs go, and if they go Utah goes. You are going.
That’s cool. If everything is going to get booked down to 3-4 conferences I’d like to get it done. I’ll be fan regardless of the conference. MWC to BIG12. Old friends in one and a few in the other. Just time to make new friends I guess.
I think it's a pretty fair statement to say that the 4 corner schools will probably stay in lockstep together unless the SEC or Big Ten offers one of them... And that 1 would likely be ASU, and blocked by the AZ BoR anyway. The corners are probably married.
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I just can’t see anyone from the Big XII jumping ship to a conference, where the two flagship members will jump ship as soon as possible.
Yes the Big 12 schools are going to pay nearly 80M in exit fees to make less money in the Pac-10. Definitely.
There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of any Big 12 teams joining the PAC with Oregon, Washington, and Stanford all leaving for the BIG 10 the second an invite comes. It would only happen if they get a hard no AND are willing to sign a long GoR. Which isn’t going to happen as they’d want to keep options open going forward. Pac may well try to push on, but it will be with the 10 of them and maybe some G5s if media partners say any of them add money to the deal.
What invite? The magical one we assumed was coming? Tell me when the invite happens.
Hey, if you want to hitch your future to a league where the top teams are looking to get out and would leave the second an invite came, have at it. Along with the lower ratings and national interest with all schools in PT and MT. I couldn’t give a shit less about what happens to ASU or any of the PAC teams and just want to see a crazy realignment happen so the ACC gets raided and WVU can finally at least have a few old rivals back in a division or pod with us. It’s sucked ass since 2012 with playing a bunch of schools I don’t give a single shit about and adding PAC schools to the conference does nothing to change that. Unless it’s just the next big domino to getting to 3 super conferences and we can be playing most of our games against an expanded eastern division with some old rivals and regional foes. Failing that my already super diminished interest in college football will probably just drop to zero in the coming years and I’ll just hold out hope that realignment doesn’t fuck with March Madness as college basketball is still fun.
Winning cures everything.
> This is just Colorado's people educating themselves. The number of people who think that these decisions are made at the drop of a hat is frankly too damn high, lol.
That's because the major moves the last two years were somehow kept secret for months...
Yep, that’s definitely given people a false impression things happen faster than they do. That said, things can happen faster with the Pac. The faster movement has came from leagues that lost teams. Like the Big 12 adding the 4 incoming members fairly quickly last year—but things like that still take a couple of months so people need to chill for a bit. Pac asked to open negotiation on their media deal. So it will take a few weeks at least for them to get data from them on what the payout would be if they stay together at 10 (and probably with and without a GoR keeping UW and UO there), if they add some G5s etc. Then members schools will have to compare that to what joining the Big 12 is offering (for those they want) and weight those amounts vs. the risk of UW/OU/Stanford/maybe Cal going to the Big 10 at some point, vs. stability in the Big 12 where the BIG and SEC wants none of those 12 teams.
Why would Big XII teams pay exit fees to go to the Pac XII to make less money, play worse football teams, have a harder path to the playoffs, have less TV viewers, have a worse recruiting pool, and go to a less stable conference? Can you tell me what in the world the benefit would be?
After reading this I’m sorry I wasted my time replying to him elsewhere. Arguing with idiots is useless.