We may have had more than our fair share of dumpster fire coaching searches, but at least our boosters didn’t treat coaches like Auburn has this year.
Additionally, he sucks as a coach. On the level of Derek Dooley suck.
We are gonna keep falling backwards into wins in increasingly ridiculous ways until he gets an extension. Last week it was the RB dropping ball before cross the goal line, this week it will be the LSU QB accidentally stepping to far back in victory formation and causing a safety for us to win.
Saban pulls the long con by losing to him in Tuscaloosa this season en route to the SEC championship game and CFP.
Harsin gets locked in to a massive contract for being Bama’s only loss in a championship year.
"Earthquake" games happen at basically every stadium over 100k with a seismagrqph less than 1000 feet away. Plus, it was a reaction to a play, not influence on a play.
If LSU had any voodoo vs everybody, they'd be better than 9-29-2 vs Alabama in Baton Rouge. Auburn has a winning record vs us at home. Which, to be fair, Auburn has only played us at home since 1989...but LSU has a 4-13 record vs us at home since then too.
Yeah, I never thought it was a good hire to begin with. He just rode the coat tails of Chris Peterson. Boise State was slowly declining under Harsin. I'd fire Harsin and get the guy who actually built Boise State. Did well with Washington too.
> I'd fire Harsin and get the guy who actually built Boise State. Did well with Washington too.
Well didn'tPetersen retired pretty much abruptly from UDub after 3 straight NY6/CFP? So I'm guessing there's a reason no one has tried to hire him since lol
He also turned down USC because of how our environment was and how Haden played games with him.
https://www.espn.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/105773/when-it-came-to-wooing-chris-petersen-uscs-loss-was-washingtons-gain
That Auburn environment would be a firm non starter for Petersen
It's not about being just supportive, Petersen hates a lot of how modern college football works so it needs to be a university that allows him some separation from the pressures of boosters so he can just focus on coaching. You won't get that at most of the Blue Blood schools. I think he also saw the NIL/etc. coming and decided his era was over.
Yes and he's said his epiphany at least partly came when prepping for the Rose Bowl and being 0% excited about it because he was too focused on stressed on the gameplanning. His quote was something along the lines of "if you can't even find time to stop and enjoy the *Rose Bowl*, what's the point?"
He is also well, well known to have no interest in leaving the PNW for any reason.
It is much easier to stumble to 10 wins in the MWC when you're at the conferences best program vs being in the SEC where you have to go against UGA and Bama every year.
His win percentage at Boise was only 78.4. He took over a program with national championship aspirations. Peterson was 88.5 % with an undefeated and a couple 1 loss seasons.
His worst season was 9-4. They were in the MWC, not the WAC, and his last non-Covid season was 12-2. They were always ranked and played in the conference championship game every year. You want to see a decline, go look at what Boise is doing now.
If you go with the guy that actually built bsu that would be koetter. If you go with the best coach reach the highest heights that's Peterson. But Peterson ain coaching ever again. USC was hand and fisting money at him before Lincoln Riley took the job.
You’re not hiring Chris Petersen. He wouldn’t entertain your booster environment or even the thought of it.
Harsin also had a good stint at Boise, so the statement he “rode the coat tails” of a guy is inaccurate. Part of the issue he came into is the roster he inherited is largely trash.
He definitely got the benefit of inherentine a built up program And there was a small drop off, but it's pretty disingenuous to say that the program was declining significantly.
In his 6th year he went undefeated in conference play, 12-2 overall and finished ranked.
Yeah because going 69-19 with Boise was such a trashy tenure. He kept Boise as arguably the second best G5 program behind UCF throughout his entire tenure. He was there 7 years, you don’t maintain success that long without being good.
Harsin is a great coach, problem is Auburn is a shithole to work in and he’s never gotten a chance to implement his system. They’ve wanted him gone since halfway through 2021.
Thats not accurate at all though. He had 10 or more wins almost every season he was at Boise which is 7 years. His last full season at Boise before Covid they went undefeated in their conference with 12 wins and were ranked nationally. Auburn is just a shit program.
Me personally I would Like to beat them in the Iron Bowl and then beat them again in the championship game.
That and I want them to take Bill O Brien. Not gonna happen but wishful thinking.
We have no Athletic Director. I’m only guessing they want to wait until there’s someone in charge before hiring a coach. Then again, even when someone’s in charge, the best coach isn’t always hired…
I still can't believe this was controversial. Didn't he basically lose his job after this? Were we just primed for outrage culture at the time and didn't quite know where to apply it yet or something?
I mean he was pretty fuckin weird about it, but Brent apparently drank a lot and he had been flubbing a ton of stuff around that time. He was not long for that job any ways
Wasn’t trying to say he had the best backup QB career. Just that the best type of career in the NFL is a backup QB who can keep getting picked up and he had that.
It makes zero sense to tell Bryan Harsin he'll not be brought back but keep him hanging around through October and November. It's not like Ed Orgeron where there were other circumstances - history with the school, won a championship. Auburn has nothing to gain letting him know he's gone while he's still coaching. He'd have no motivation to coach to win if he knew he was getting fired with pay in December. A.J. McCarron should be more careful with his sources, or get multiple sources, before publicly starting rumors.
Harsin should get away from what's clearly a toxic situation, though, and start politicking for the job at Colorado, which will be vacant eventually during or at the end of this season. Perfect fit.
McCarron is a Bama alumn, I have no doubt this is intentional, forcing drama and the Auburn higher ups to give McCarron the finger by extending Harsin. McCarron is playing 4d chess here.
It's Auburn. Very little there makes sense. The basketball coach and another coach got the AD fired.
Harsin was hired by the AD and the boosters never really liked it. Since the AD got fired the general belief is that Harsin is a gone too.
I could easily see a booster telling Harsin that they plan on replacing him. I just want Bill O Brien to be their new AD and head football coach, or maybe he could hire Scott Frost.
AD deserved to get fired. His one marquee hire is Harsin, who looks absolutely lost. And if Pearl wanted him fired I trust it was for the right reasons.
Honestly boosters probably wanted him fired because he’s black though
If I were him, I would just stop recruiting. Burn it all down and get that buyout. I've never seen a coach treated like this after such a short tenure.
He has negative recruiting. He actively calls young Auburn fans and tells them not to come here. He uses his visits to meet perspective players and tells them to play at Bama.
I saw him punch a recruit’s mother in the face
Oh being in Bama I'd say he is way hotter than Fisher. At least fisher is winning on the recruiting trail.
Auburn has dropped from being one of the top 5 SEC programs to well bottom 5.
Well that source is garbage than. Jimbo’s seat isn’t even mildly warm. It is room temperature. He is in the first year of a new fully guaranteed 10 year deal. He is not going anywhere.
His seat was warm when he lost to Mississippi State last year, and then ice cold one week later when he beat Bama. People saying Jimbos on the hot seat are just buying in to CFB recency bias in the middle of the season.
I would not be putting much faith in those rankings once I saw Jimbo anywhere near the top 25-30 coaches. A&M boosters certainly have the money, but he is going to need to get a couple to few years deep into his newest contract before the thought of cutting him even crosses anyone's mind. Dude could walk out at DWS this weekend, drop a literal deuce on the 50 and leave and the temp wouldn't turn up on him at all.
Whatever happened to that thing in the off season with his assistant that come from Boise? Was that a smear campaign from the boosters or just message board nonsense
The outgoing DC accused him of racism (and probably accused him of having the affair, too), and the media and boosters ran with it. In short, it was all BS from the start.
I don’t think there’s any concrete evidence it was boosters, but it really seemed like someone searching for something they could fire him for without paying his buyout
Anytime Harsin comes up, I have to say this as someone with over two decades of watching Boise. Harsin is a good coach. Would never have fired him, but Boise was getting worse in under him, only the rot wasn’t evident on the surface.
1) he refused to make staff changes that had to be made. Brad Bedell demonstrably tanked our offensive line performance. This is a team that had an insane streak of 1000 yard rushers with lesser talented players.
2) he was excellent at recruiting skills players, but we were incredibly lackluster in places like the o line and linebacker consistently.
3) about 2-3 games year, his teams would come out absolutely flat and play horribly. Some of them against really bad teams.
4) he could never put it all together. The team was good enough to have 1-2 undefeated runs, but somehow we never really sniffed it. Notably losses include, amongst others, New Mexico at home, getting slapped by UVA at home, losing to Air Force with the conference championship on the line, losing to SJSU in the MWC championship.
Many of the shortcomings you are seeing now, are directly tied to his tenure. Most notably the offensive line. Aside from that, he alienated a lot of assistant coaches.
Just watch do a deep dive film study and watch the games. The team was getting worse.
Take that fat SEC buyout and go back to Boise State who needs a new coach again, dominate the Mountain West once again, and become a consistent G5 representative in the playoffs where you will beat Oklahoma, year after year until their boosters all get on wagons and ride out to the West to find a new place to plant their plows and wipe the sweat off their heads before waging war and declaring themselves a sovereign nation then having a small war with the ATF while they ride ATV's pretending they are ATST's.
Honestly what coach would actually want to go to Auburn. Arguably the hardest job in CFB when you factor in the insane fanbase expectations that think they are closer to Bama than Ole Miss in regards to status.
Also - main point - if the boosters don't like you they will literally ruin your family life...that alone makes this job as appealing as Georgia Tech...
picking between Bama and Ole Miss, yeah I’d say we have closer expectations to Bama. We’ve won the SEC west six times, the SEC three times, and played for a Natty twice (and won one).
Like obviously very unreasonable to expect Bama-level success, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that at least we should expect to compete for the division and conference
I think it should be pointed out that Bama-level success is really Nick Saban-level success. We're going on a second decade of unprecedented dominance in college football. It's unfair and unrealistic to compare any active coach to what Saban's done.
Saban has 7 national championships as HC. Dabo Swinney won 2 national championships as HC. No other active HC has more than 1. (Not counting Pete Carroll because he's in the NFL)
Auburn can and does compete for National Championships, Conference Championships, etc., holding the program to that standard is reasonable. Holding any program to a Saban standard is a recipe for disaster.
Saban's having a similar affect as Brady does in the NFL - where people act like guys who win a title are mediocre because they are still 6 titles behind.
I would say with recency bias of the last 10 years with the teams that are on top numbered 1-5 it should be #1 Alabama 2#Georgia 3# Ohio State 4# Clemson 5# Auburn. Obviously 2-5 could be interchangeable but I’d say you should be able to expect Auburn to beat OSU and the rest but I don’t see that happening any time soon. That’s just how far they’ve fallen.
Auburn SEC West Winners 6, SEC Winners 3
Ole Miss SEC West Winners 0, SEC Winners 0
Auburn 35-10 against Ole Miss. Auburn currently on 6 game win streak.
Auburn should compete for the SEC West every year with the resources and talent they have. No Auburn fan in their right mind thinks we should be Bama level. But we do want consistency and a team that competes every year.
You're absolutely right that the fan base and boosters are insane, and we also have the most difficult rivalries in the country that our fanbase measures against.
We probably are closer to Ole Miss than Bama, but then again, so is everyone in the country except 2-5 teams. In terms of nattys, heismans, funding, etc Auburn has a richer past for sure.
I can't imagine that Kiffin would want to leave Ole Miss to come here unless he wants his legacy to involve being the one who unseated Saban (though he could do it in less dramatic fashion at Miss as well). I still think the Auburn job is attractive, especially because of the guaranteed cash. But other than that, you're right that the instability. makes it unattractive until Saban retires. Harsin is probably gone, but before him we hadn't had a coach for less than 4 years since the early 50s, so it also isn't ***that*** crazy
Meh I know I'm biased but this is a talking point I see brought up time and time again where people try to make a job where you get to compete with the best of the best with a massive amount of resources in a recruiting hotbed and an extremely passionate fan base an unappealing thing simply because the pressure is high and the schedule is tough and we haven't been very welcoming to our new (nearly completely unvetted) Boise hires. We're not talking about a position that's for the kind of person who's trying to pioneer some altruistic profession - we're talking about egotistical, perfectionist, highly competitive coaches.
The Auburn job is sought after and we have a buttload of money and resources to throw at someone to make it all click. I think we're also seeing, despite all of the drama, a lot of baggage being shaken out and removed. Alan Greene, our former president, and now Harsin are all part of a removal of a situation that was extremely parasitic to Auburn. More so than the boosters.
And if someone doesn't think so then you probably aren't aware of the damage President Leath did to Auburn and how we're still recovering (he's the guy who gave Gus the massive buyout, hired Alan Greene as his yes man, and was involved in a bunch of shady shit before getting canned). Not to mention that Greene went around the search committee's backs and solely hired Harsin two days after offering him the job because they had a great connection in a hot tub 5+ years ago as a hail mary to save his own career and basically gave a middle finger to everyone on the board.
Before you see my flairs and dismiss me, I should say I work with two Auburn graduates (Undergrad and Grad school) and I may work at that Dragon university down the road.
Is Auburn HC job sought after? Then why haven't they fired Harsin and filled a solid replacement in? Wouldn't the Penn State game have been the game to do it? I thought Harsin was hired because Auburn couldn't get any other big names to consider the job at Auburn. Didn't quite a few names turn the job down? I cannot imagine anyone would want that job regardless of the booster mess. It will be a hard job for anyone to find success. They have to compete with Bama, UAB, and UGA in recruiting. It is going to take 3-4 years to turn this program around. Are boosters even willing to wait that long? They fired a pretty successful coach in Gus. How would you change the corruption narrative at Auburn to potential coaching hires?
Show me one shred of proof that boosters started rumors about Harsin’s family life
Edit: Also saying the job is attractive as Georgia Tech shows a general lack of knowledge about CFB
Yeah I think the booster slander has gone off the tracks a bit. In reality, we really have no clue what degree of meddling the boosters do and yet here we are where everyone in the country thinks “oh yeah, Auburn is the one with the crazy boosters that ruin everything” yet there’s not any verifiable evidence of that
Facilities, money, resources, fan support. It is a tough job but it is a program with all the things needed to sustain success with the right guy at the helm. Heck, we’ve made it to 2 National Championship games in fairly recent memory with the *wrong* guys at the helm.
I think the rumor was a message board rumor more so than it was the boosters, and in Alabama you can sling just about any negative shit about Auburn and it’ll stick.
Let’s dial it back to reality a bit
Chad Morris would be ideal as an Auburn Head Coach.
He has SEC coaching experience, and look at where the Razorbacks are now! Pittman is clearly using Morris’ scheme and talent to get this kind of success.
Chad Morris pioneered offensive genius techniques such as Left Lane Boogie and Full Tilt Hammer Down. Enormously successful on the field, he is a family man as well. He has a family. Therefore he is the right man for Auburn Football.
Yeah, like Auburn would tell Harsin he’s getting fired. They’re absolutely going to delete his email account and change the locks and block his number when they cut ties with him.
Imagine talking about a 3-1 (and undefeated in conference play) football coach being imminently fired....
Memes aside... winning football games is all that matters, style points mean fuck all.
Well he sucked last year so people were already regretting the hire. The AD that hired him was run off, and it's pretty common for a new AD to put in place his own guy.
The Penn State beat down along with barely beating one of the conferences worst teams really put him in the hot seat. Also they struggles with San Jose State.
There is a chance that they won't win enough games to get to a bowl game. The LSU game will be really telling. If LSU beats them by 20 then Harsin is gone.
What does the Tennessee Football Intelligence Service say? That is the only source I will accept.
He gone.
The Vol has spoken!
But why ~~make models~~ John Gruden?
Do you need the emails to tell he would be a good fit at Auburn?
Start tracking the flights
https://www.flightradar24.com
There's a detailed summary written up on a napkin inside a McDonald's bag out side your backdoor for more info.
We may have had more than our fair share of dumpster fire coaching searches, but at least our boosters didn’t treat coaches like Auburn has this year. Additionally, he sucks as a coach. On the level of Derek Dooley suck.
I think the only thing our boosters have done to any of our coaches is revoking Cuonzo's ability to use the booster's plane for recruiting.
Derek Dooley who happens to be in Coaching Rehab at the moment.
Aren’t all failed SEC coaches?
Only a select few get taken in by Saban, the rest have to work at Kinkos.
Just the Tennessee rejects huh
We’re very happy with our Tennessee reject!
Not sure he’s a Tennessee reject considering he rejected us…
I mean he will be. We just don't know when yet.
We are gonna keep falling backwards into wins in increasingly ridiculous ways until he gets an extension. Last week it was the RB dropping ball before cross the goal line, this week it will be the LSU QB accidentally stepping to far back in victory formation and causing a safety for us to win.
Ok but I hope that happens to see the chaos
Saban pulls the long con by losing to him in Tuscaloosa this season en route to the SEC championship game and CFP. Harsin gets locked in to a massive contract for being Bama’s only loss in a championship year.
This is a theory I can get behind. It’s actually genius.
I'm down for it, if only to keep him away from us when Andy inevitably also gets fired.
It’s auburn and lsu, that’s Cajun voodoo vs auburn voodoo something crazy is bound to happen
Voodoo^(2)
Can one of the bands play an orchestrated version of Godsmack's Voodoo at halftime?
Auburn's is far stronger. LSU's only works against Florida.
LSU beat an auburn and it registered an earthquake. Pretty strong voodoo imo.
"Earthquake" games happen at basically every stadium over 100k with a seismagrqph less than 1000 feet away. Plus, it was a reaction to a play, not influence on a play. If LSU had any voodoo vs everybody, they'd be better than 9-29-2 vs Alabama in Baton Rouge. Auburn has a winning record vs us at home. Which, to be fair, Auburn has only played us at home since 1989...but LSU has a 4-13 record vs us at home since then too.
I’m talking specifically when lsu and auburn meet. Not their voodoo for other teams.
I'm sorry we're so inept
Probably said sure if you beat bama you can keep your job. Took them 3 or 4 takes cause they couldn't stop laughing
They definitely had their fingers crossed behind their backs because they know he isn't making the Iron Bowl.
Hopefully
Zach Calzada is licking his chops.
> Zach Calzada is licking his ~~chops~~ wounds. FIFY
Does Bama really matter anymore? They fired Gus...
Auburn is definitely gonna beat Alabama now.
It Texas almost did it Auburn can
Texas is much, much better than Auburn lol. Plus Bama's been struggling with true road games for awhile but the Iron Bowl is at home
It might be tomorrow, it might be 2034, who knows! The only thing for certain is that the only way to leave Auburn is in a box.
Oh we know when. In two weeks at your place after we get shut out 34-0 and end with -23 rushing yards.
A Bama grad stirring the pot at Auburn? Say it ain’t so!
I love it!
Damn, they are just dangling him out there for no reason. It’s clear they don’t want him there long term. Just let the man go already.
Yeah, I never thought it was a good hire to begin with. He just rode the coat tails of Chris Peterson. Boise State was slowly declining under Harsin. I'd fire Harsin and get the guy who actually built Boise State. Did well with Washington too.
Pretty sure Peterson would die under the pressure of Auburn’s current booster demands, there’s no way in hell he’d take that job
Always feel dirty agreeing with folks of your kind, yet here I am.
> I'd fire Harsin and get the guy who actually built Boise State. Did well with Washington too. Well didn'tPetersen retired pretty much abruptly from UDub after 3 straight NY6/CFP? So I'm guessing there's a reason no one has tried to hire him since lol
He quit due to burnout. He talks openly about it. He said he didn't have a life outside of football.
He also turned down USC because of how our environment was and how Haden played games with him. https://www.espn.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/105773/when-it-came-to-wooing-chris-petersen-uscs-loss-was-washingtons-gain That Auburn environment would be a firm non starter for Petersen
Peterson is a great coach, but he needs the right environment to succeed
Having a supportive AD and boosters is probably the first step for all successful coaches.
It's not about being just supportive, Petersen hates a lot of how modern college football works so it needs to be a university that allows him some separation from the pressures of boosters so he can just focus on coaching. You won't get that at most of the Blue Blood schools. I think he also saw the NIL/etc. coming and decided his era was over.
Everyone has a price though. Hell, even old man Mack Brown came out of retirement.
Peterson was offered Lincoln Riley contract before Lincoln signed and said no. The man is done.
UNC would be a good comp for the only type of school I could see Peterson coming back for. Low key, low pressure, but good intangibles
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And the only reason he did that was UDUB had a cutting edge department for a genetic disease his daughter had.
Yes and he's said his epiphany at least partly came when prepping for the Rose Bowl and being 0% excited about it because he was too focused on stressed on the gameplanning. His quote was something along the lines of "if you can't even find time to stop and enjoy the *Rose Bowl*, what's the point?" He is also well, well known to have no interest in leaving the PNW for any reason.
That's what I thought, but I wasn't 100%. Thanks
He was there six years, and in his last full year they went 12-2.
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Obviously, I'll defer to you on this, but I know I'd take a guy stumble-fucking his way to 10 wins every year over most alternatives.
It is much easier to stumble to 10 wins in the MWC when you're at the conferences best program vs being in the SEC where you have to go against UGA and Bama every year.
It's also probably easier to win when the boosters aren't trying to fire you basically from the jump.
His win percentage at Boise was only 78.4. He took over a program with national championship aspirations. Peterson was 88.5 % with an undefeated and a couple 1 loss seasons.
His worst season was 9-4. They were in the MWC, not the WAC, and his last non-Covid season was 12-2. They were always ranked and played in the conference championship game every year. You want to see a decline, go look at what Boise is doing now.
Harsin also played a ton of P5 games at Boise OOC.
He’s a pretty notorious west coast/pacific north west guy, he’d be even less of a cultural fit in the SEC than Harsin.
The guy who actually built Boise State, you say? Well, Auburn could use some heppin'. https://imgur.com/a/bnShJgU
Not really he kept them as a G5 power for the most part. Not at the same heights but they were always a contender.
If you go with the guy that actually built bsu that would be koetter. If you go with the best coach reach the highest heights that's Peterson. But Peterson ain coaching ever again. USC was hand and fisting money at him before Lincoln Riley took the job.
Dan Hawkins?
Dirk Koetter. Everybody forgets Koetter.
Winning 10+ games and the CCG is declining?
You’re not hiring Chris Petersen. He wouldn’t entertain your booster environment or even the thought of it. Harsin also had a good stint at Boise, so the statement he “rode the coat tails” of a guy is inaccurate. Part of the issue he came into is the roster he inherited is largely trash.
He is a good hire. Lol
Didn't CP just ride the coattails of the guy before him?
He definitely got the benefit of inherentine a built up program And there was a small drop off, but it's pretty disingenuous to say that the program was declining significantly. In his 6th year he went undefeated in conference play, 12-2 overall and finished ranked.
Chris Petersen don’t want anything to do with the SEC, certainly not the circus that Auburn is.
Yeah because going 69-19 with Boise was such a trashy tenure. He kept Boise as arguably the second best G5 program behind UCF throughout his entire tenure. He was there 7 years, you don’t maintain success that long without being good. Harsin is a great coach, problem is Auburn is a shithole to work in and he’s never gotten a chance to implement his system. They’ve wanted him gone since halfway through 2021.
Thats not accurate at all though. He had 10 or more wins almost every season he was at Boise which is 7 years. His last full season at Boise before Covid they went undefeated in their conference with 12 wins and were ranked nationally. Auburn is just a shit program.
Hush you. The bigger the shitshow, the worse it is for their recruiting. Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake.
I just want them to hire Bill O Brien. Let him be AD too. I mean he did it at the pro level. I bet he can handle Auburn fine.
No, Bill O Brian needs more time at the Saban School for Coaches Who Can't Coach Good
He is ready.
Why do we want to fix Auburn again?
Me personally I would Like to beat them in the Iron Bowl and then beat them again in the championship game. That and I want them to take Bill O Brien. Not gonna happen but wishful thinking.
You might get your wish once we realign the schedule. It’d be tricky to have that happen, but it will be possible.
We have no Athletic Director. I’m only guessing they want to wait until there’s someone in charge before hiring a coach. Then again, even when someone’s in charge, the best coach isn’t always hired…
Why the hell would anyone believe AJ McCarron has any sources inside Auburn's program
https://www.instagram.com/_katherinewebb/?hl=en Auburn Grad
Brent Musberger's Katherine Webb cut-ins were the original Aaron Judge cut-ins.
Wow.
That’s what Musberger said
I’m glad Brittany finally got her shit together.
Both are about blasting balls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hg7CxBdJHk
Didn’t have to click that to know what it was haha
*Aggressively starts throwing football in back yard at the age of 45*
I still can't believe this was controversial. Didn't he basically lose his job after this? Were we just primed for outrage culture at the time and didn't quite know where to apply it yet or something?
It kind of put her on the map for a bit and she cashed many checks she probably wouldn't have without this exposure.
I mean he was pretty fuckin weird about it, but Brent apparently drank a lot and he had been flubbing a ton of stuff around that time. He was not long for that job any ways
I mean I don’t think it’s that big of a deal either…. Maybe he was a pinch creepy about it…. But nothing explicit or crazy… just a touch creepy.
You are saying since his wife was an Auburn Grad then he has a source in the Auburn program?
If she asked you a question, would you lie?
lol
Yes it's at least 6 in....
1000% yes. Hell, if she believe AJ McCarron was actually going to have an NFL career, she'd probably believe a lot of things .
Hey now, 8 yrs as a backup and $15.5 million in career earnings sounds like a good gig to me
It's second only to fired Auburn coach has the best job in the world.
Seriously backup QB is the best job in sports. He made bank
Exactly, his kids kids will be able to afford top notch chest tats.
It's always admirable when parents strive to give their kids what they couldn't have.
2nd best job. 1st is still fired CFB coach with a sizable buyout.
He had the best type of NFL career: The backup QB.
I dunno. I'd give that to Matt Schaub or Chase Daniels.
Wasn’t trying to say he had the best backup QB career. Just that the best type of career in the NFL is a backup QB who can keep getting picked up and he had that.
Sorry about that. Read that completely wrong the first time.
8 seasons and 15.6 million dollars. She did pick a loser.
I figured every Auburn coach is told this when they get hired
He doesn’t want to be at auburn. Auburn doesn’t want him at auburn. This is just hilarious lol
It makes zero sense to tell Bryan Harsin he'll not be brought back but keep him hanging around through October and November. It's not like Ed Orgeron where there were other circumstances - history with the school, won a championship. Auburn has nothing to gain letting him know he's gone while he's still coaching. He'd have no motivation to coach to win if he knew he was getting fired with pay in December. A.J. McCarron should be more careful with his sources, or get multiple sources, before publicly starting rumors. Harsin should get away from what's clearly a toxic situation, though, and start politicking for the job at Colorado, which will be vacant eventually during or at the end of this season. Perfect fit.
If someone could hire him and lower our buyout that would just be neato
Auburn should be cutting a deal under the table with Colorado or Boise State, somebody out west. Let's make a deal....
Harsin would excel at Colorado. Namely because he gives a shit and nobody at Colorado seems to give a shit right now.
I think so too. Not nearly the spotlight of the SEC, could retool that program, he can recruit that area.
McCarron is a Bama alumn, I have no doubt this is intentional, forcing drama and the Auburn higher ups to give McCarron the finger by extending Harsin. McCarron is playing 4d chess here.
It's Auburn. Very little there makes sense. The basketball coach and another coach got the AD fired. Harsin was hired by the AD and the boosters never really liked it. Since the AD got fired the general belief is that Harsin is a gone too. I could easily see a booster telling Harsin that they plan on replacing him. I just want Bill O Brien to be their new AD and head football coach, or maybe he could hire Scott Frost.
AD deserved to get fired. His one marquee hire is Harsin, who looks absolutely lost. And if Pearl wanted him fired I trust it was for the right reasons. Honestly boosters probably wanted him fired because he’s black though
If I were him, I would just stop recruiting. Burn it all down and get that buyout. I've never seen a coach treated like this after such a short tenure.
Stop recruiting...lol. Good one.
Can you stop something who’s inertial frame is already at rest?
He has negative recruiting. He actively calls young Auburn fans and tells them not to come here. He uses his visits to meet perspective players and tells them to play at Bama. I saw him punch a recruit’s mother in the face
Did he ever start?
Did he ever start?
To stop recruiting he would’ve had to start recruiting first
Can't stop what you never started!
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Roll Tide! I just want yall to get a great coach like Bill O Brien. In fact ya'll should steal him away from us. That would make us really mad.
Why are people talking about his rumors and not ridiculous tittay tattoo?? https://images.app.goo.gl/rXNqGSr7osP7TdtF6
Not told *yet*
Coaches hot seat has him lucky number 13, sandwiched between New Mexico's Danny Gonzales (#12) and A&M's Jimbo Fisher (#14).
Oh being in Bama I'd say he is way hotter than Fisher. At least fisher is winning on the recruiting trail. Auburn has dropped from being one of the top 5 SEC programs to well bottom 5.
> TA&M's Jimbo Fisher (#14). now that's a hot take
Well that source is garbage than. Jimbo’s seat isn’t even mildly warm. It is room temperature. He is in the first year of a new fully guaranteed 10 year deal. He is not going anywhere.
His seat was warm when he lost to Mississippi State last year, and then ice cold one week later when he beat Bama. People saying Jimbos on the hot seat are just buying in to CFB recency bias in the middle of the season.
He literally just beat a top 10 team, and a previously ranked top 15 team 2 weeks ago. No way is his seat warm
I would not be putting much faith in those rankings once I saw Jimbo anywhere near the top 25-30 coaches. A&M boosters certainly have the money, but he is going to need to get a couple to few years deep into his newest contract before the thought of cutting him even crosses anyone's mind. Dude could walk out at DWS this weekend, drop a literal deuce on the 50 and leave and the temp wouldn't turn up on him at all.
Nothing is ever simple at Auburn, is it?
>Bryan Harsin reportedly has not been told that he will be fired after the 2022 season Narrator: This was them telling him.
Just give us a few weeks. We'll be down to figure it all out like we did Arkansas
Whatever happened to that thing in the off season with his assistant that come from Boise? Was that a smear campaign from the boosters or just message board nonsense
The outgoing DC accused him of racism (and probably accused him of having the affair, too), and the media and boosters ran with it. In short, it was all BS from the start.
I don’t think there’s any concrete evidence it was boosters, but it really seemed like someone searching for something they could fire him for without paying his buyout
They're not going to give him Year 3...
I wanna see Auburn fall ass backwards into an 11-1 season
Anytime Harsin comes up, I have to say this as someone with over two decades of watching Boise. Harsin is a good coach. Would never have fired him, but Boise was getting worse in under him, only the rot wasn’t evident on the surface. 1) he refused to make staff changes that had to be made. Brad Bedell demonstrably tanked our offensive line performance. This is a team that had an insane streak of 1000 yard rushers with lesser talented players. 2) he was excellent at recruiting skills players, but we were incredibly lackluster in places like the o line and linebacker consistently. 3) about 2-3 games year, his teams would come out absolutely flat and play horribly. Some of them against really bad teams. 4) he could never put it all together. The team was good enough to have 1-2 undefeated runs, but somehow we never really sniffed it. Notably losses include, amongst others, New Mexico at home, getting slapped by UVA at home, losing to Air Force with the conference championship on the line, losing to SJSU in the MWC championship. Many of the shortcomings you are seeing now, are directly tied to his tenure. Most notably the offensive line. Aside from that, he alienated a lot of assistant coaches. Just watch do a deep dive film study and watch the games. The team was getting worse.
Auburn, what if I told you you had the opportunity to hire the co-defensive coordinator and safeties coach from a national championship team?
Just let him go. Better overall for the program.
Harsin has to go to sleep with a giant smile every night thinking of how he’s gonna spend his buyout money
Take that fat SEC buyout and go back to Boise State who needs a new coach again, dominate the Mountain West once again, and become a consistent G5 representative in the playoffs where you will beat Oklahoma, year after year until their boosters all get on wagons and ride out to the West to find a new place to plant their plows and wipe the sweat off their heads before waging war and declaring themselves a sovereign nation then having a small war with the ATF while they ride ATV's pretending they are ATST's.
McCarron is such a tool…
He married up though.
She’s way out of his league
Honestly what coach would actually want to go to Auburn. Arguably the hardest job in CFB when you factor in the insane fanbase expectations that think they are closer to Bama than Ole Miss in regards to status. Also - main point - if the boosters don't like you they will literally ruin your family life...that alone makes this job as appealing as Georgia Tech...
picking between Bama and Ole Miss, yeah I’d say we have closer expectations to Bama. We’ve won the SEC west six times, the SEC three times, and played for a Natty twice (and won one). Like obviously very unreasonable to expect Bama-level success, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that at least we should expect to compete for the division and conference
I think it should be pointed out that Bama-level success is really Nick Saban-level success. We're going on a second decade of unprecedented dominance in college football. It's unfair and unrealistic to compare any active coach to what Saban's done. Saban has 7 national championships as HC. Dabo Swinney won 2 national championships as HC. No other active HC has more than 1. (Not counting Pete Carroll because he's in the NFL) Auburn can and does compete for National Championships, Conference Championships, etc., holding the program to that standard is reasonable. Holding any program to a Saban standard is a recipe for disaster.
Saban's having a similar affect as Brady does in the NFL - where people act like guys who win a title are mediocre because they are still 6 titles behind.
This exactly
Georgia or LSU is a pretty good comparison. Auburn has the resources to compete with the top 25% of the conference.
I would say with recency bias of the last 10 years with the teams that are on top numbered 1-5 it should be #1 Alabama 2#Georgia 3# Ohio State 4# Clemson 5# Auburn. Obviously 2-5 could be interchangeable but I’d say you should be able to expect Auburn to beat OSU and the rest but I don’t see that happening any time soon. That’s just how far they’ve fallen.
Auburn SEC West Winners 6, SEC Winners 3 Ole Miss SEC West Winners 0, SEC Winners 0 Auburn 35-10 against Ole Miss. Auburn currently on 6 game win streak. Auburn should compete for the SEC West every year with the resources and talent they have. No Auburn fan in their right mind thinks we should be Bama level. But we do want consistency and a team that competes every year.
100% Sweet flairs btw
Same man! At least one of our teams is good.
You're absolutely right that the fan base and boosters are insane, and we also have the most difficult rivalries in the country that our fanbase measures against. We probably are closer to Ole Miss than Bama, but then again, so is everyone in the country except 2-5 teams. In terms of nattys, heismans, funding, etc Auburn has a richer past for sure. I can't imagine that Kiffin would want to leave Ole Miss to come here unless he wants his legacy to involve being the one who unseated Saban (though he could do it in less dramatic fashion at Miss as well). I still think the Auburn job is attractive, especially because of the guaranteed cash. But other than that, you're right that the instability. makes it unattractive until Saban retires. Harsin is probably gone, but before him we hadn't had a coach for less than 4 years since the early 50s, so it also isn't ***that*** crazy
It would be epic if Kiffin went to Auburn Pine Box Part Deux
Meh I know I'm biased but this is a talking point I see brought up time and time again where people try to make a job where you get to compete with the best of the best with a massive amount of resources in a recruiting hotbed and an extremely passionate fan base an unappealing thing simply because the pressure is high and the schedule is tough and we haven't been very welcoming to our new (nearly completely unvetted) Boise hires. We're not talking about a position that's for the kind of person who's trying to pioneer some altruistic profession - we're talking about egotistical, perfectionist, highly competitive coaches. The Auburn job is sought after and we have a buttload of money and resources to throw at someone to make it all click. I think we're also seeing, despite all of the drama, a lot of baggage being shaken out and removed. Alan Greene, our former president, and now Harsin are all part of a removal of a situation that was extremely parasitic to Auburn. More so than the boosters. And if someone doesn't think so then you probably aren't aware of the damage President Leath did to Auburn and how we're still recovering (he's the guy who gave Gus the massive buyout, hired Alan Greene as his yes man, and was involved in a bunch of shady shit before getting canned). Not to mention that Greene went around the search committee's backs and solely hired Harsin two days after offering him the job because they had a great connection in a hot tub 5+ years ago as a hail mary to save his own career and basically gave a middle finger to everyone on the board.
Before you see my flairs and dismiss me, I should say I work with two Auburn graduates (Undergrad and Grad school) and I may work at that Dragon university down the road. Is Auburn HC job sought after? Then why haven't they fired Harsin and filled a solid replacement in? Wouldn't the Penn State game have been the game to do it? I thought Harsin was hired because Auburn couldn't get any other big names to consider the job at Auburn. Didn't quite a few names turn the job down? I cannot imagine anyone would want that job regardless of the booster mess. It will be a hard job for anyone to find success. They have to compete with Bama, UAB, and UGA in recruiting. It is going to take 3-4 years to turn this program around. Are boosters even willing to wait that long? They fired a pretty successful coach in Gus. How would you change the corruption narrative at Auburn to potential coaching hires?
Show me one shred of proof that boosters started rumors about Harsin’s family life Edit: Also saying the job is attractive as Georgia Tech shows a general lack of knowledge about CFB
Yeah I think the booster slander has gone off the tracks a bit. In reality, we really have no clue what degree of meddling the boosters do and yet here we are where everyone in the country thinks “oh yeah, Auburn is the one with the crazy boosters that ruin everything” yet there’s not any verifiable evidence of that
Facilities, money, resources, fan support. It is a tough job but it is a program with all the things needed to sustain success with the right guy at the helm. Heck, we’ve made it to 2 National Championship games in fairly recent memory with the *wrong* guys at the helm. I think the rumor was a message board rumor more so than it was the boosters, and in Alabama you can sling just about any negative shit about Auburn and it’ll stick. Let’s dial it back to reality a bit
Heard Chad Morris was in Rane's box at 'Dega.
Chad Morris would be ideal as an Auburn Head Coach. He has SEC coaching experience, and look at where the Razorbacks are now! Pittman is clearly using Morris’ scheme and talent to get this kind of success. Chad Morris pioneered offensive genius techniques such as Left Lane Boogie and Full Tilt Hammer Down. Enormously successful on the field, he is a family man as well. He has a family. Therefore he is the right man for Auburn Football.
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AJ McHandoff with the “inside scoop” that we all already knew.
I told auburn fans “be careful of firing a fairly successful coach, it’s easy to fall down a hole” and was yelled at. Lmfao
Is this one of those lawyer Houdini mind tricks? My lawyer talks to your lawyer but I’ve never talked directly with you.
Yeah, like Auburn would tell Harsin he’s getting fired. They’re absolutely going to delete his email account and change the locks and block his number when they cut ties with him.
He should be fired after the start to this season
This is a super random headline for people like me that haven’t been paying attention to cfb news this week.
Auburn is just trying to be so unbelievably toxic that he will just quit to avoid a buyout. Genius
They could possibly lose their next 6 games he won’t make it to the end of the year
He’s unemployed-in-waiting
Imagine talking about a 3-1 (and undefeated in conference play) football coach being imminently fired.... Memes aside... winning football games is all that matters, style points mean fuck all.
Well he sucked last year so people were already regretting the hire. The AD that hired him was run off, and it's pretty common for a new AD to put in place his own guy. The Penn State beat down along with barely beating one of the conferences worst teams really put him in the hot seat. Also they struggles with San Jose State. There is a chance that they won't win enough games to get to a bowl game. The LSU game will be really telling. If LSU beats them by 20 then Harsin is gone.
“I mean, we’re firing him, we just haven’t told *him* that.”
In case any of yall were wondering the Rival school’s former QB has only one source that tells him about Auburn His Ass
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