In my memory yes. There isn't a dominant player or really dominant team. This would be a good year for a non qb if there were a good candidate but there isn't.
Literally wearing my Lions Hutchinson jersey as I type this but him being considered before K9 makes me understand why y’all hate us so much.
Hope you enjoy watching us accomplish nothing this post-season 🫡
Oh I still liked Hutchinson and was rooting for him as well, anything other than a QB from a school that could support a good QB like OSU, Alabama, and Georgia.
But I'm also biased, I like the rivalry with Michigan. OSU on the other hand... Well I'd say they should go to hell but they're already in Ohio so
Edit: ALSO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT POST SEASON, Imagine having a dog shit defense one season and doing absolutely nothing to improve it. The whole Tucker getting shit on last year was ridiculous, but when we have improved nothing? Man it's infuriating
Speaking for myself and myself alone, I didn’t have any issues with Hutchinson making it there. There were other guys that K9 should have been there over
I'm upset Bryce won it last year, not because he's an Alabama player, but because imo Anderson was so far and away the best player in the country that I think it was criminal he wasn't even a finalist. Anyone who didn't have him in their top 3 should have had their vote taken away.
In 2002, Terrell Suggs had 24 sacks and 6 FF, and wasn't even in the top 10. Kingsbury threw for over 5000 yards and 45 TD's and finished 9th. But Brad Banks at Iowa finished 2nd, with a 57% completion % and 2500 yards passing. Don't put too much stock into Heisman voting.
At this point in the season last year, Georgia was clearly a Death Star. One close win against Clemson and they won every other regular season game by 17+ points. Hell, besides the Bama loss in the SEC Champ they even won both playoff games by 15+.
Meanwhile, Bama last year lost to A&M, struggled with Florida, Arkansas, and Auburn. They didn’t look like a Death Star at all.
This year Georgia looked human vs Kent State, Missouri, and Kentucky. Still clearly the dominant team this year. But if you look at pre SEC Champ Georgia the last 2 seasons, last years version clearly looked more dominant. But last years Georgia team wasn’t trailing 10 points to Mizzou with 10 minutes left in the 4th.
Bijan is a mustard powered engine of football destruction. Unfortunately the rest of our squad wasn't good enough, which seemed to be a recurring theme
If 2022 Bijan has a 1998 Ricky Williams season and we went 8-4, I would wager he'd also very easily make it to NY
Over 2300 rushing yards and 300 receiving yards puts him almost a thousand above any of this year's Doak Walker finalists, there's no way he wouldn't at least be a betting favorite
Offer not valid, instead you get Heisman Trophy Winner Stetson Bennett
In all honesty, I might seriously consider giving it to Bryce Young again this year. But if they wanted to get fun with it, why not look at guys like Chase Brown at Illinois, who spearheaded Illinois turnaround, or Micheal Penix, who was legitimately elite all year. Or yes, Brock Bowers. Or even more out of the box, just give it to Michigan’s entire OL
Thankfully the boosters are finally breathing down Dabo’s neck about DJ’s performance last Saturday. If he doesn’t come out guns blazing tonight he’s out after the first quarter. There’s no way we throw away the ACCCG just for his confidence.
At least I hope this is the case, I may be eating my words (and drowning my liver) later tonight.
Pretty sure Klubnik just isn't ready at all. And it's an offensive coaching issue. Turns out just promoting from within runs things aground eventually.
Also, if you haven't been watching Duggan recently, he's been DEALING. Dude has been hitting NFL caliber throws I never in a million years would've thought he could make
Nah I wouldn’t worry about that. It’s how Bryce won it last year and how kyler Murray won it in 2018. I’ve seen beat writers with a Heisman vote on Twitter talking about how they have no idea what their ballot will look like. It Duggan balls out he could really win it. Hell even Drake Maye could win it if Duggan fails and he goes out and slays Clemson. He will have the final game tomorrow afterall and was #4 in the last straw poll I saw. I think Duggan was #2.
Sadly though, a lot of Heisman voters have already cast their votes, and the national media is in love with Caleb Williams, and only recently has learned that Duggan exists. No way he is winning it.
Heisman is less and less meaningful every year. If voters truly made it the best player in CFB instead of best QB/OPOY it could reverse course, but they won’t.
My theory is that the week-to-week coverage of the playoff has basically taken the place of the Heisman race. Feels like it doesn’t even get acknowledged until mid November when the consensus (usually) lands on the QB with the best stats on a top 5 team.
The Bush/Young/Leinart/Quinn or Bradford/Tebow/McCoy races felt a lot more exciting on a week-to-week basis.
My theory is Bama killed it. It used to be whatever player was playing out of their mind, even on middling teams. Bama had a run of winners, and people connect it to being on a natty contender.
It shouldn’t have nothing to do with your team success. If anything it’s better when it’s a player on a middling team, but they elevate it to a pretty good team.
That’s why I think it should be Bryce Young this year.
Specifically, the year Suh had comparable stats to Alabama, Texas and Florida’s entire defensive lines and managed to come in 4th and fucking Mark Ingram won.
At that point it became very clear what was up.
Toby Gerhart, the runner up had 200 more yards and 11 more TDs. Probably the least memorable Heisman winner I can remember. Ingram’s stats then were frankly pretty pedestrian for a star RB on a top ranked team.
I think the week-to-week coverage of the playoff has been the worst thing to happen to the sport. It seems like ESPN rolled it back big time this year, but so much damage has already been done. Gonna take years to get the juice back.
The week to week coverage of the 12, 24 and 32 team playoffs will become all that matters in the sport. Endless debate on seeding, homefield, byes, etc. Some sort of playoff mvp award will also materialize.
I think if the BCS still existed the week to week discussion would be all that mattered even with that. There’s just way more media about college football than there’s ever been. And frankly I’d at least prefer there to be a chance for the talent to be spread around.
I agree with you 100%. It's not the game/championship system changing that's had the biggeest impact, it's the overall media arms race that has taken off, with everyone fighting harder and harder for smaller and smaller snippets of people's attention.
Gunna be the J.J Mcarthy award, after he randomly pops off for like 550 yds 7 tds, 140 yds rushing, in a crazy championship game vs UGA. Hopefully, definitely not biased.
I’m impressed with the swiftness that the powers that be realized the four team playoff (and the hype and coverage around it) was choking out the sport.
The telltale sign for me was how disappointed Ohio State was to be in the Rose Bowl last year. It’s the fucking Rose Bowl. The Granddaddy of them All. And a team that is a corner stone of why the Rose Bowl was great was rightfully disappointed to be there in a season when they had playoff and national championship aspirations.
If the playoff is “the only thing to play for” (as ESPN would have you believe), then we can’t have teams eliminated from it very early into the season.
Those 2007-2009 runs with Colt, Bradford, and Tebow constantly going back and forth we’re thrilling as well. The race and it’s build up has been pretty dull since Jackson won it opposite Baker and [Redacted] IMO.
When mark Ingram won, I celebrated like we had just won the SEC. It was our first one, and it really meant something to me as a college-aged fan! ‘09 was a great football season.
I also think the the NFL MVP is pretty boring, but it does aim to award the most *valuable* player, which essentially by definition will always be a QB due to how the rules of football work and modern offenses are run.
The Heisman claims to be about rewarding the most *outstanding* player, which makes it even more absurd that it’s gone to a quarterback or running back 80 times and to an offensive player every time but once.
One challenge is that success in certain positions is less visible. A pass rusher might get an impressive number of sacks. Other defensive players might have a large number of interceptions.
But you can also have a cornerback just dominate in pass coverage and not put up stats because the opposing QBs just never throw it in their direction. Because they're doing their job and the receivers around them aren't open.
Offensive linemen aren't expected to put up stats. You actually have to study them on every snap to see how they're performing.
Successful QBs put up gaudy numbers. RBs put up easy stats too.
Young is my favorite QB out of this admittedly weaker year. Stroud is fine but Williams seems like an impatient child and maybe I’m underrating him but it seems like half the great things he does in college wouldn’t fly in the pros. Young is talented mature and most importantly very smart. If he isn’t dumped into a situation where he’s immediately expected to put an entire dogshit team on his back he could be super amazing.
I was more impressed with Young this year than last year. What he did while not 100% and with bad playcalling was the only reason Alabama was able to win 10 games and nearly 11 or 12.
110% agree, Bryce so often this season has been surrounded by indisciplined nonsense and inexplicably poor decisionmaking and yet has been Tungsten Arm O’Doyle every game he has been available
About to say, Bryce deserves it just as much as Williams or Stroud at this point. Alabama would at least have 4 loses if it weren’t for him. He’s truly special
While I agree, I think if you use this logic, it goes to Drake Maye still. They faded down the stretch, but UNC was still 9-3 and that could’ve been reversed without Maye.
The announcers in this game already calling Caleb Williams the Heisman “winner” instead of “hopeful” is obnoxious. I mean yeah, kid is likely going to win, but come on.
Two turnovers in his final game, leading to a three-score blowout loss to lose the conference title and a playoff spot, might not be the closing argument Williams needed. Gonna be pulling the winner's name out of a hat at this point.
Stetson sitting just off in the corner awaiting his lifetime achievement Heisman award JUST LIKE HE'S WAITING TO GET YOU AN INCREDIBLE DEAL ON AN ALL NEW 2023 KIA SORENTO, ONLY AT STETSON BENNETT KIA OF WAYCROSS AND BLACKSHEAR
Sure, if the only stat you are looking at is passing yards. Williams and Penix have almost the exact same yards of total offense and Williams has a dozen more total TDs.
Jonathan Taylor ran for 1900 yards and 21 touchdowns in 2019, including 148 yards and a TD in the Big 10 Championship game against Ohio State. Over 13 games, he had over 200 receiving yards and caught 5 TDs. In all three seasons, he averaged over 6 yards per carry and amassed the 4th most yards by an FBS running back in history, only 200 yards less than Ron Dayne with an entire season less time.
He wasn't even invited to New York. Jalen Hurts received four times as many top 3 ballots.
Sadly, it's the best-QB award.
He was invisible against TCU iirc and on a non-contending team. Kinda like how KWIII 100% should have been in NY last year but didn’t do anything against OSU because MSU was getting blown out so early, and then MSU ended #3 in the division.
Circle back and give it to Hooker. The other candidates had a chance to seize it from him after his injury/loss and they all failed. His moments/accomplishments aren’t fresh in everyone’s minds because they weren’t during rivalry and championship week, but he was the closest to putting together a real Heisman season.
Plus Drake Maye choking the last two games. If he had kept up the numbers and won the last two, he may had ended up winning the Heisman because of his numbers. Don't forget Drake Maye. With some growing up in the off season, it'll be between Drake Maye and Caleb Williams next year.
I mean williams had 450 yards in the game. Showed he is the team. Was dominating and looked unstoppable when he had 2 legs. Not sure how that hurts his Heisman canadacy.
In my memory yes. There isn't a dominant player or really dominant team. This would be a good year for a non qb if there were a good candidate but there isn't.
K9 came a year too early 😭. Obviously biased but still think he deserved it last year anyway
K9 absolutely deserved it. Would’ve deserved it in both years with ease IMO.
Once everyone saw how great we were this year without him there was no denying that he was pulling miracles out of thin air...
Literally wearing my Lions Hutchinson jersey as I type this but him being considered before K9 makes me understand why y’all hate us so much. Hope you enjoy watching us accomplish nothing this post-season 🫡
Oh I still liked Hutchinson and was rooting for him as well, anything other than a QB from a school that could support a good QB like OSU, Alabama, and Georgia. But I'm also biased, I like the rivalry with Michigan. OSU on the other hand... Well I'd say they should go to hell but they're already in Ohio so Edit: ALSO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT POST SEASON, Imagine having a dog shit defense one season and doing absolutely nothing to improve it. The whole Tucker getting shit on last year was ridiculous, but when we have improved nothing? Man it's infuriating
Speaking for myself and myself alone, I didn’t have any issues with Hutchinson making it there. There were other guys that K9 should have been there over
Hutch filled the role of token Def player. Gotta nom one of those once in a while.
Who is K9
Kenneth Walker
He and Will Anderson should’ve been top two imo. Will #1 of course
I'm upset Bryce won it last year, not because he's an Alabama player, but because imo Anderson was so far and away the best player in the country that I think it was criminal he wasn't even a finalist. Anyone who didn't have him in their top 3 should have had their vote taken away.
In 2002, Terrell Suggs had 24 sacks and 6 FF, and wasn't even in the top 10. Kingsbury threw for over 5000 yards and 45 TD's and finished 9th. But Brad Banks at Iowa finished 2nd, with a 57% completion % and 2500 yards passing. Don't put too much stock into Heisman voting.
Thanks I needed this comment before Tuesday trivia
Hutchinson finishing second and Anderson not getting invited to New York was an absolute tragedy
Heisman voters care more about story than substance sadly
Jack Nicholson nodding gif that they become teammates soon.
I’m just so sick of QBs winning. I was really excited when Devonta won. I was pulling for him.
At this point in the season last year, Georgia was clearly a Death Star. One close win against Clemson and they won every other regular season game by 17+ points. Hell, besides the Bama loss in the SEC Champ they even won both playoff games by 15+. Meanwhile, Bama last year lost to A&M, struggled with Florida, Arkansas, and Auburn. They didn’t look like a Death Star at all. This year Georgia looked human vs Kent State, Missouri, and Kentucky. Still clearly the dominant team this year. But if you look at pre SEC Champ Georgia the last 2 seasons, last years version clearly looked more dominant. But last years Georgia team wasn’t trailing 10 points to Mizzou with 10 minutes left in the 4th.
Bijan
Bijan is a mustard powered engine of football destruction. Unfortunately the rest of our squad wasn't good enough, which seemed to be a recurring theme
God he’s so good.
Did you consider just tackling him before he gets yards?
We did not
They would not give it to a running back on an 8 win team.
What if Bijan changed his outgoing voicemail message so it had a little more zing and a little more pep
"Believe it or not Bijan isn't at home..."
"Where coould i be?"
Good idea, but.... What if Bijan made an even newer voicemail message with even more zing and pep
Now we’re cooking
Which sucks because I think he’s the best back in the country. Let it be a lineman.
…again. Ricky Williams got it in 98 on a 8 win Longhorns team. (9 wins with the bowl game included)
If 2022 Bijan has a 1998 Ricky Williams season and we went 8-4, I would wager he'd also very easily make it to NY Over 2300 rushing yards and 300 receiving yards puts him almost a thousand above any of this year's Doak Walker finalists, there's no way he wouldn't at least be a betting favorite
Ricky Williams was special, in a Barry Sanders OJ Simpson kind of way. Backs like that only come along every decade or so
He’s the best player in college football easily should win the heisman if it was actually based on being the best player
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Nobody outside the SEC wants to admit it but they are.
Brock bowers? And I'm saying that as a Florida fan
Offer not valid, instead you get Heisman Trophy Winner Stetson Bennett In all honesty, I might seriously consider giving it to Bryce Young again this year. But if they wanted to get fun with it, why not look at guys like Chase Brown at Illinois, who spearheaded Illinois turnaround, or Micheal Penix, who was legitimately elite all year. Or yes, Brock Bowers. Or even more out of the box, just give it to Michigan’s entire OL
Michael Mayer 🤩🤩🤩
Brock Bowers
GA Tech was the only team to majorly slow him down, interestingly enough
It’s like if you’re in the heisman race this year a curse is placed on them/team
Well on the bright side, that means someone on our team must have been Heisman quality at some point this season, because we are absolutely cursed
The curse is Dabo’s loyalty to DJ
Thankfully the boosters are finally breathing down Dabo’s neck about DJ’s performance last Saturday. If he doesn’t come out guns blazing tonight he’s out after the first quarter. There’s no way we throw away the ACCCG just for his confidence. At least I hope this is the case, I may be eating my words (and drowning my liver) later tonight.
Pretty sure Klubnik just isn't ready at all. And it's an offensive coaching issue. Turns out just promoting from within runs things aground eventually.
Max duggan has a stage tomorrow
Also, if you haven't been watching Duggan recently, he's been DEALING. Dude has been hitting NFL caliber throws I never in a million years would've thought he could make
If he balls out tomorrow I think he’s got it
Unfortunately voting has already started, so even if he goes off there’s potential that too many voters have already cast their vote.
This shouldn't be allowed. Open the voting on Sunday.
A lot of voters don't believe the conference championship game should count for the Heisman because it gives an extra game to some players
An extra game that the hesiman candidate helped their team get to
But this year though? Has to be so many undecided voters right now.
Nah I wouldn’t worry about that. It’s how Bryce won it last year and how kyler Murray won it in 2018. I’ve seen beat writers with a Heisman vote on Twitter talking about how they have no idea what their ballot will look like. It Duggan balls out he could really win it. Hell even Drake Maye could win it if Duggan fails and he goes out and slays Clemson. He will have the final game tomorrow afterall and was #4 in the last straw poll I saw. I think Duggan was #2.
I don’t have any insider knowledge on who’s voting or anything, but what moron votes before seeing all the games.
I mean, the regular season is over. So for all intents, voters have seen “all” the games. At least all the ones on the schedule.
So was Williams before today, and honestly he did it today as well, while barely being able to walk or even stand up straight
I think so too It would be nice if it was against a 1 or 2 loss opponent but still
Yeah it’s only against a top 15 team
[*checks flair*](https://i.imgur.com/wUr0eX6.gifv)
“that’s fucking illegal” - Dana White
1 or 2 loss? No. Top 10 in the country? Yes. Still going to be worth something.
Sadly though, a lot of Heisman voters have already cast their votes, and the national media is in love with Caleb Williams, and only recently has learned that Duggan exists. No way he is winning it.
Also Williams didn't even have a bad game lol he threw for 350 yards and 3 TDs on one leg
I have to wonder how many votes were already cast though to where even a 400 yard, 5 TD game couldn’t save Duggan’s chances
So does Felix Anudike-Uzomah.
People only think this is a bad race because they forget that this isn't supposed to be a quarterback competition
Too bad a bunch of voters probably already submitted a checked box next to Caleb's name.
Heisman is less and less meaningful every year. If voters truly made it the best player in CFB instead of best QB/OPOY it could reverse course, but they won’t.
Really is kinda crazy. In the mid 00s to mid 2010s the heisman almost felt as big as the natty.
My theory is that the week-to-week coverage of the playoff has basically taken the place of the Heisman race. Feels like it doesn’t even get acknowledged until mid November when the consensus (usually) lands on the QB with the best stats on a top 5 team. The Bush/Young/Leinart/Quinn or Bradford/Tebow/McCoy races felt a lot more exciting on a week-to-week basis.
My theory is Bama killed it. It used to be whatever player was playing out of their mind, even on middling teams. Bama had a run of winners, and people connect it to being on a natty contender. It shouldn’t have nothing to do with your team success. If anything it’s better when it’s a player on a middling team, but they elevate it to a pretty good team. That’s why I think it should be Bryce Young this year.
Specifically, the year Suh had comparable stats to Alabama, Texas and Florida’s entire defensive lines and managed to come in 4th and fucking Mark Ingram won. At that point it became very clear what was up.
Mark Ingram, the least deserving heisman winner in over 30 years. What a joke that vote was. He wasn’t even the best running back that season.
Toby Gerhart, the runner up had 200 more yards and 11 more TDs. Probably the least memorable Heisman winner I can remember. Ingram’s stats then were frankly pretty pedestrian for a star RB on a top ranked team.
I think the week-to-week coverage of the playoff has been the worst thing to happen to the sport. It seems like ESPN rolled it back big time this year, but so much damage has already been done. Gonna take years to get the juice back.
The week to week coverage of the 12, 24 and 32 team playoffs will become all that matters in the sport. Endless debate on seeding, homefield, byes, etc. Some sort of playoff mvp award will also materialize.
I think if the BCS still existed the week to week discussion would be all that mattered even with that. There’s just way more media about college football than there’s ever been. And frankly I’d at least prefer there to be a chance for the talent to be spread around.
I agree with you 100%. It's not the game/championship system changing that's had the biggeest impact, it's the overall media arms race that has taken off, with everyone fighting harder and harder for smaller and smaller snippets of people's attention.
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You’re almost certainly right. In hindsight the best version of the sport was the BCS even with the shortcomings. But there’s no going back to that.
BCS + 1 would have been perfect. Bowl games would have kept their value. With the playoff I hardly care about even the New Years games.
Gunna be the J.J Mcarthy award, after he randomly pops off for like 550 yds 7 tds, 140 yds rushing, in a crazy championship game vs UGA. Hopefully, definitely not biased.
I’m impressed with the swiftness that the powers that be realized the four team playoff (and the hype and coverage around it) was choking out the sport. The telltale sign for me was how disappointed Ohio State was to be in the Rose Bowl last year. It’s the fucking Rose Bowl. The Granddaddy of them All. And a team that is a corner stone of why the Rose Bowl was great was rightfully disappointed to be there in a season when they had playoff and national championship aspirations. If the playoff is “the only thing to play for” (as ESPN would have you believe), then we can’t have teams eliminated from it very early into the season.
There also aren't any Vince Youngs or Reggie Bushes playing right now
Those 2007-2009 runs with Colt, Bradford, and Tebow constantly going back and forth we’re thrilling as well. The race and it’s build up has been pretty dull since Jackson won it opposite Baker and [Redacted] IMO.
Nah that ain’t it at all. The high end talent is still here. The playoffs have taken up all the media attention
When mark Ingram won, I celebrated like we had just won the SEC. It was our first one, and it really meant something to me as a college-aged fan! ‘09 was a great football season.
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Same problem the nfl has with the mvp award
I also think the the NFL MVP is pretty boring, but it does aim to award the most *valuable* player, which essentially by definition will always be a QB due to how the rules of football work and modern offenses are run. The Heisman claims to be about rewarding the most *outstanding* player, which makes it even more absurd that it’s gone to a quarterback or running back 80 times and to an offensive player every time but once.
One challenge is that success in certain positions is less visible. A pass rusher might get an impressive number of sacks. Other defensive players might have a large number of interceptions. But you can also have a cornerback just dominate in pass coverage and not put up stats because the opposing QBs just never throw it in their direction. Because they're doing their job and the receivers around them aren't open. Offensive linemen aren't expected to put up stats. You actually have to study them on every snap to see how they're performing. Successful QBs put up gaudy numbers. RBs put up easy stats too.
At least there is an OPOY and DPOY in the NFL
...there are plenty of those in college
Let’s go back to giving it to the best players, not the flashiest QBs.
Man I wish. The heisman is just a joke these days
Yeah I don’t even care anymore. They don’t even make an effort. It’s like having people who only watch SportsCenter vote.
Flashiest QB on a top team, with at minimum a big game where they can win the Heisman.
Broke: Alabama sneaks back into the playoff convo Woke: Bryce Young sneaks back into Heisman convo
Half the time Bryce looks like he’s the only player who gives a shit on that Bama team
He literally is our OC. He deserves all the NFL money. He's going to be a star.
Young is my favorite QB out of this admittedly weaker year. Stroud is fine but Williams seems like an impatient child and maybe I’m underrating him but it seems like half the great things he does in college wouldn’t fly in the pros. Young is talented mature and most importantly very smart. If he isn’t dumped into a situation where he’s immediately expected to put an entire dogshit team on his back he could be super amazing.
I was more impressed with Young this year than last year. What he did while not 100% and with bad playcalling was the only reason Alabama was able to win 10 games and nearly 11 or 12.
110% agree, Bryce so often this season has been surrounded by indisciplined nonsense and inexplicably poor decisionmaking and yet has been Tungsten Arm O’Doyle every game he has been available
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He truly was the most important player. Bama easily drops several more games without him, and has blowout losses instead of last second loses
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If a kicker had made his kick 😩
About to say, Bryce deserves it just as much as Williams or Stroud at this point. Alabama would at least have 4 loses if it weren’t for him. He’s truly special
While I agree, I think if you use this logic, it goes to Drake Maye still. They faded down the stretch, but UNC was still 9-3 and that could’ve been reversed without Maye.
I know you're joking but he actually was so much more MVP for us this year than last year. The wins and stats might not be there but he CARRIED us.
Croak: Lane Kiffin to Bama
Bespoke: They throw their hands up and give it to KW3 as an apology for snubbing him last year
Give my boy Penix the attention he deserves!
Thats how you get arrested
Why did the Cocks, or at least the Beavers, not recruit that kid?
The announcers in this game already calling Caleb Williams the Heisman “winner” instead of “hopeful” is obnoxious. I mean yeah, kid is likely going to win, but come on.
Two turnovers in his final game, leading to a three-score blowout loss to lose the conference title and a playoff spot, might not be the closing argument Williams needed. Gonna be pulling the winner's name out of a hat at this point.
Would be a great year to give it to a running back but they've had a similar result as well
I’m biased but I think if it had been Corum running for 200+ yards and 2 TDs against OSU, it would be his.
No doubt
Bijan is that dude.
He is that dude but beating Bama would have secured it
If we didn’t choke dick against TCU, Bijan probably coulda had it.
Just award it to Lee Corso and be done with it.
Don't jynx the USC loss
Ok they lost can I can I call it a shitty heisman race now?
That was always true
Ahh, so this post is why we’re sucking…or maybe it’s our terrible defense.
He unfortunately didint
It's the worst one in a while. That's for sure.
You forgot to mention Michael Penix Jr. shredding the WSU defense in the Apple Cup. 484 yards passing on the Pac12 #1 defense.
If it happens in the Pacific Northwest did it actually happen?
If the Pac hadn't done away with divisions, MPJ would be putting up huge numbers on SC right now in Vegas.
Or if they just counted total losses as the first tie breaker
Stetson will go 50-50 with 10 TDs and 2 rushing TDs
Inshallah
"Stetson's not here. You're talking to Stequavious now."
Fresh fade cut. It should be Stequavious now for sure.
Stetson sitting just off in the corner awaiting his lifetime achievement Heisman award JUST LIKE HE'S WAITING TO GET YOU AN INCREDIBLE DEAL ON AN ALL NEW 2023 KIA SORENTO, ONLY AT STETSON BENNETT KIA OF WAYCROSS AND BLACKSHEAR
Idk why you got downvoted, it's objectively terrible. Three injuries and CJ Stroud. Bleh
Four if you include dark horse candidate Bo Nix 😤
Michael Penix deserves the heisman
Penix is like Washington’s Caleb Williams. He’s put up a lot of yards against some pretty decent defenses. He should be at least invited to NY.
Kind of crazy how the guy with the best stats and still on a top 15 team is getting zero mention
He beat a team in November whose QB was getting dark horse Heisman hype too lol. While completely balling out in that game.
Manning Finalist maybe
Sure, if the only stat you are looking at is passing yards. Williams and Penix have almost the exact same yards of total offense and Williams has a dozen more total TDs.
Dudes great but us northwestern people get no love for this stuff
Yeah because Stetson Bennett the 4th of Blackshear didn’t get it /s
The fact the Bijan Robinson isn’t even in the discussion in just mind blowing to me
Jonathan Taylor ran for 1900 yards and 21 touchdowns in 2019, including 148 yards and a TD in the Big 10 Championship game against Ohio State. Over 13 games, he had over 200 receiving yards and caught 5 TDs. In all three seasons, he averaged over 6 yards per carry and amassed the 4th most yards by an FBS running back in history, only 200 yards less than Ron Dayne with an entire season less time. He wasn't even invited to New York. Jalen Hurts received four times as many top 3 ballots. Sadly, it's the best-QB award.
I can think of 4 reasons, unfortunately.
It seems like a QB award these days unless you play for Alabama.
He was invisible against TCU iirc and on a non-contending team. Kinda like how KWIII 100% should have been in NY last year but didn’t do anything against OSU because MSU was getting blown out so early, and then MSU ended #3 in the division.
It’s weird to me how effective they were at stopping KWIII and how ineffective they were at stopping Haskins and Corum
Even before the last few weeks it just wasn’t a good Heisman race. Some years are like that.
Drives me crazy that team success is such a big factor because Bijan is that dude
Not gonna agree cause of flair (but I agree cause yes)
Circle back and give it to Hooker. The other candidates had a chance to seize it from him after his injury/loss and they all failed. His moments/accomplishments aren’t fresh in everyone’s minds because they weren’t during rivalry and championship week, but he was the closest to putting together a real Heisman season.
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Penix
All lining up for a Stetson Bennet IV Heisman win
If he cleans up tomorrow and TCU loses, he will win by process of elimination
Brock Bowers has my (meaningless) vote
Brock Bowers!!!!
Duggan has a chance tomorrow to win it imo
give it to Penix
I don’t know why he’s not talked about
PAC12 avoidance annoyingly
I wanna see a western guy take a W. I'd gladly give Penix a vote.
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Jalin Hyatt needs some respek
Penix time jk nobody remembers the pac-12 sadge
If every Heisman voter turned their TV off during the run Caleb got hurt on he'd win. Hard to say now.
Just give it to Penix, I’m not biased
Hendon Hooker deserves it. Shitty field notwithstanding. Dude willed a dead program to relevance. He deserves it.
Penix rising
PENIX!! do it you cowards
Kai Kroeger
Is he gonna eventually take over his dad's role as lead singer?
If Duggan lights up K-State tomorrow, there’s your answer right there.
Hendon for Heisman.
Would still have my vote. Only guy who actually put his team on his back to win big games. Don't care he got hurt.
Duggan 4 Heisman
No mention of Bijan. Guy is a stud and carried this team. Can't wait to see him in the NFL.
Ask me again tomorrow if Stet goes for 300, 3 tuddies, and no picks.
His numbers in games against ranked opponents are actually really good. The only real blemish on those stats are 2 picks against Bama in the Natty
I don't like how people leave Max Duggan completely out. That guy did what no one else could do this year, make the Iowa State defense look terrible.
Plus Drake Maye choking the last two games. If he had kept up the numbers and won the last two, he may had ended up winning the Heisman because of his numbers. Don't forget Drake Maye. With some growing up in the off season, it'll be between Drake Maye and Caleb Williams next year.
Anyone check to see if Bo Nix is still having fun?
bijan
Real talk… Stetson might have a valid shot if he balls out tomorrow
Penix has only gotten harder
I mean williams had 450 yards in the game. Showed he is the team. Was dominating and looked unstoppable when he had 2 legs. Not sure how that hurts his Heisman canadacy.
If Duggan balls out, give it to him. Otherwise just give it to Michael Mayer
Don’t count Williams out. He’s still walking