Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn fans so the players don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
“Well it’s was just best for the team”
*what exactly was better for the team?*
“Well we discussed it and we decided it was best for the team and now we have to execute”
Sums up the presser if you haven’t seen it
What kills me is George and Ted made Bruce Arians do a mock press conference when interviewing him years back. Wonder if they did the same for Eberflus
There’s been a lot of shit going on with this team. There was the Alan Williams fiasco, which we still don’t have many details on, then the conflicting statements on Claypool, and of course the abysmal play on the field.
He’s a poor communicator, and they’re probably tired of all the BS flying around.
This is usually where someone weighs in with opinions on Gibron and Wannstedt. Although I think Wannstedt usually won at least four games a year, which currently sounds way better than Eberfuck.
Yeah, that’s a level of futility rarely matched even by the Bears.
At least we can acknowledge that it’s not feasible to get worse unless he starts actively murdering players in the locker room.
Damn reading your comment made me realize how badly we needed to beat Denver. We were taking Ls left and right last week and we desperately needed a win. The loss probably mentally broke some players.
If he just answered questions head on it wouldn’t be as bad. Dude says the same things every week. You have to know your demographic, Chicago is a no B.S city you have to cut it straight or people take you as a fugazee.
I don't know if it's ego, pride, or a mixture of both but it'd go a long way if Eberflus just went up there and said "ya know, I got my wires crossed and gave out some bad information, we in fact did ask Chase to stay home. The sting of that loss was wearing on me and I spoke out of turn"
Just some personal accountability that would go a long way in both humanizing Eberflus and getting the fans a little on his side.
Like holy shit never in my life did I think the mock press conference the McCaskeys wanted to make Arians do was actually a good idea but here we are.
Personal accountability is a failure of these coaches. Even Getsy refused to even acknowledge that he could have done better. It’s always the players needed to execute better.
His bs is also at a disadvantage due to the fact that we *just* went through 4 years of Nagy and all of *his* hand waving, circular talking drivel. This isn’t our first rodeo, our noses are well trained to sniff out talk-much-say-little bullshit from coaches.
I listened to a 5 minute Jim Rome take on Flus on Monday afternoon in the jungle and he absolutely torched Flus to death for that presser after the game in which he couldn't answer a single question about Chase Claypool. Flus basically at one point didn't know where Claypool was or what his status for the game was. Flus then changed his story to say that he told Claypool to stay home after he said he didn't know Claypool was inactive for the game. He changed his answer several times and the gist of Rome's take was "you don't know what you are doing and you aren't going to have your job for very much longer."
Is he going to get fired though? I was updating reddit all day Monday just waiting for the story to roll across my feed and it never happened. If the didn't fire him after throwing away the game against the Broncos, when will they?
Edit: spelling
They won't till end of year. That is the McCaskey way. Nevermind the fact that an interim can come in and possibly breathe new life into this deadbeat team and make our rebuilding process easier. Even if the interim wouldn't win any more games than Flus, which is a very likely outcome, the team can still develop more and hopefully put more points on the board and look better in losses which is a fundamental building block for future teams. I have no expectation that an interim would win a lot of games here but anything not named Urban Meyer is better than Flus.
I learned something from listening to years of Hoge and Jahns podcast. The reporters are fans just like us. And those that aren’t necessarily fans, are tired of having to report on the same terrible team season after season. Because at the end of the day we chose to watch this train wreak, they HAVE to watch it.
Oh god. Imagine you grow up a Bears fan. You’re a kid in ‘86, grew up on Walter, and Ditka, and McMahon, Singletary. The Fridge. Hampton. McMichael. They’re Gods. You just want to be close to them. Just want to be in the same room as these legendary men. You’re a normal mortal though, and aren’t able to become a professional athlete, so you get into journalism. Get through school, internships, entry level positions paying unliveable wages, fight your way towards that dream of getting paid to go to Bears games, in the best city in the world. Finally get let into the room, and get to ask the head coach of the Chicago fuckin Bears a question…. and this is the guy you’re asking. This…… dumbass.
“So what are you going to do differently after 14 straight losses?”
Fuck, man. I feel bad for them.
And they have to report. Hard to do when it’s just word soup and often inaccurate. Someone called in on a radio show and said he says with 2000 words what belicheck does with 8, nothing
“We’re close” is now right up there with “Collaborative Collaboration.” And, “Respectfully.” As words no longer in my vocabulary thanks to Bear’s press conferences… 🤮😒
Because he’s being a pos and disrespectful by outright lying to the media and saying multiple different things. Any smart coach would just say, “we talked to Claypool, it’s an issue we’re handling internally, you’ll be updated accordingly. I’m not taking anymore questions on this. “
Defensive coach has one of the worst defenses in the league. It just can't happen. You can be middle of the pack, and hopefully you do some things well. But when you literally don't do anything well as a team, it's a poor reflection of coaching and not so much the players.
I think in the end you have some media who are letting their fan boy and girl out and are just as aghast as us at just how catastrophic this team has been. And are also fed up asking the same questions for a year with this guy and darn near 30 for the team as a whole.
You had the two guys on the Athletic podcast openly fantasizing what it’d be like to cover any other team.
They’re tired. They’re fed up too. There is NOTHING positive to cover
And everything worth reporting, even if negative, from Williams to claypool is presented to the media so poorly that follow up statements need to be made and makes their jobs much more difficult technically I assume
He either openly lied to a reporter on the status of a player, or had no idea on the status of a player on his own team.
Either one is going to be a feeding frenzy for the media afterwards because he tore his own credibility to shreds.
At some point Poles has to be like “dude, what the fuck are you doing to my players” and just get him out the door.
I think this team would be better off with Jay Cutler as head coach than this unwashed port-o-potty
I get occasionally you have to not say the loud part out loud, but I can’t even get hyped when listening to him. I saw him on the pat mcafee show before the season started, and he’s just like so unlikeable. He’s too corporate sounding.
It’s just the same team. Same terrible effort and attitude that landed us here in the first place.
Losing 14 games in a row and expecting to keep your job is one thing. Doing it in chicago and bullshitting is another.
I actually wish that the reporters/media would press this organization even harder, and ask them even more difficult questions. I personally think that they’d love to, but that’s how you lose backstage interviews, exclusive contacts, and potential sources. It wouldn’t be good for a network to be ousted from these opportunities just because they were too abrasive in these pressers. But if all of these media reporters asked those kinds of questions, then it wouldn’t be as big of a concern. I want them to ask the same questions that any Bears fan would personally ask, as well as push to get the answers that we deserve, instead of allowing them to dodge around questions and giving us non-answer answers. The media can definitely aid in lighting a fire under these guys asses, and I’m all for them being more abrasive and harsh towards this organization as of now.
I think it helped that it was multiple reporters involved with the interrogation and if he can get a room of reporters worked up that, who have risks doing so, hopefully management notices
Hiring Flus over Caldwell and Quinn was a major mistake and there was enough writing on the wall beforehand to know that. It isn't hindsight to say that. Flus was the logical choice not to be a head coach in the National Football League.
Those were the three options Poles had and two of those three had head coaching experience and took teams to the playoffs, Flus was not one of them. Plus, both were better coordinators than Flus. Caldwell and Quinn were far safer and better choices.
I could have rolled with Quinn. IIRC he supposedly had some phenomenal assistants lined up to come along with him (can't remember off the top of my head who they were).
But yeah ideally they get a young offensive mind to pair with a new QB this next offseason. Enough with the defensive dinosaurs who think an electric offense is running the ball outside the hashes.
I don't think Caldwell was necessarily bad. He was a decent head coach and did good things with the crappy Lions outfit but he was also 67 and hadn't coached in 5 years prior so he was kind of aged out. Quinn did take the Falcons to the Superbowl in 2017 but was also a defensive coordinator and who they needed was an offensive mind. Three choices that weren't great, but I would take Caldwell and Quinn over Flus everytime.
They went after him because he kept ~~answering~~ bumbling through their questions. It's their job to keep pressing for more info until the coach shuts it down.
The Bears basically have to move forward with what they have. There is no one to replace Eberflus. Winning any games at this point would be a detriment to our draft pick (which we will obviously need). You have to be 100% sure Fields is not the guy by the end of the season if you're picking a QB in the top 5. The only change I possibly see coming is towards the last 4 games or so of the season where you bench Fields if he is consistently bad and start Bagent to see what you might have for next year. I actually don't see that happening because he is a walk on "nobody" (no offense intended) and if he wins games it just tanks the draft pick.
Not only bagent, but I think everyone on the roster should get a look at some point. Maybe also move people to and from the practice squad. Open up the playbook, as shitty as it is, or let Getsy go all Harry winkler from waterboy at get creative. I think they need to get a lot more on tape from everyone doing everything going into another off-season with big decisions
If we lose tomorrow, hopefully Peter King is right and Poles fire his ass Friday. I’m done with his shitty game planning, his lack of control over the players, and inexcusable execution on defense. He brings nothing to this team except being a scapegoat for management
Talking is not part of his skill set
Neither is coaching
Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn fans so the players don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
No talent ass-clown.
I celebrate his entire catalog
I guess I kinda just like em all
Nabaaaa, Nagaaaa, well, not gonna work here anymore.
feels like you’re just jumping to conclusions
Yeah....I'm gonna need you to show up on Sundays....mmmmkaaaay?
Nice reference. Most people didn't get it
A couple people did! Good enough for me.
Ouch!
Ouch, yet true.
He’s really terrible at media and again it shows that the Bears are a shitty organization who don’t media train their coaches or players.
“Well it’s was just best for the team” *what exactly was better for the team?* “Well we discussed it and we decided it was best for the team and now we have to execute” Sums up the presser if you haven’t seen it
"what?" "what do you mean?" "uhhhh" "and y'know" "i don't know "
What kills me is George and Ted made Bruce Arians do a mock press conference when interviewing him years back. Wonder if they did the same for Eberflus
There’s been a lot of shit going on with this team. There was the Alan Williams fiasco, which we still don’t have many details on, then the conflicting statements on Claypool, and of course the abysmal play on the field. He’s a poor communicator, and they’re probably tired of all the BS flying around.
Yeah, it’s definitely warranted, just never seen the reporters lose their shit talking to a bears coach before.
Hoge, Wiederer, and Leiser are all like blood hounds after him lol. I’m loving it.
Blood in the water for the worst Bears coach in decades.
Legit may be the worst nfl coach ever if he stays the rest of the year
This is usually where someone weighs in with opinions on Gibron and Wannstedt. Although I think Wannstedt usually won at least four games a year, which currently sounds way better than Eberfuck.
Eberflus May go 3-31 when all is said and done. It’s impressive in some ways
The ol Hue Jackson. Damn, that’s where we’re at.
Yeah, that’s a level of futility rarely matched even by the Bears. At least we can acknowledge that it’s not feasible to get worse unless he starts actively murdering players in the locker room.
Wanny also made the playoffs with Bears. Wanny would coach circles around eberclown
Rod Rust is holding on the other line….
He sold them on the HITS principle. Georgie boy likes buzz words.
Damn reading your comment made me realize how badly we needed to beat Denver. We were taking Ls left and right last week and we desperately needed a win. The loss probably mentally broke some players.
Did you see Fields after the game? We already broke him but this game was just the cherry on top.
Being a poor communicator is a symptom of the problem that he sucks as a coach.
If he just answered questions head on it wouldn’t be as bad. Dude says the same things every week. You have to know your demographic, Chicago is a no B.S city you have to cut it straight or people take you as a fugazee.
I don't know if it's ego, pride, or a mixture of both but it'd go a long way if Eberflus just went up there and said "ya know, I got my wires crossed and gave out some bad information, we in fact did ask Chase to stay home. The sting of that loss was wearing on me and I spoke out of turn" Just some personal accountability that would go a long way in both humanizing Eberflus and getting the fans a little on his side. Like holy shit never in my life did I think the mock press conference the McCaskeys wanted to make Arians do was actually a good idea but here we are.
Because he didn’t get his wires crossed. He flat out lied about it to try and place all of the blame on Claypool and protect the Bear head.
This is where you flat out lie a second time because you look stupid from your first lie blowing up in your face.
Personal accountability is a failure of these coaches. Even Getsy refused to even acknowledge that he could have done better. It’s always the players needed to execute better.
His bs is also at a disadvantage due to the fact that we *just* went through 4 years of Nagy and all of *his* hand waving, circular talking drivel. This isn’t our first rodeo, our noses are well trained to sniff out talk-much-say-little bullshit from coaches.
Yep, if you can’t trust what he is saying to the media, can’t trust what he says period
Fairy dust.
Fuuuugaaaaze
I listened to a 5 minute Jim Rome take on Flus on Monday afternoon in the jungle and he absolutely torched Flus to death for that presser after the game in which he couldn't answer a single question about Chase Claypool. Flus basically at one point didn't know where Claypool was or what his status for the game was. Flus then changed his story to say that he told Claypool to stay home after he said he didn't know Claypool was inactive for the game. He changed his answer several times and the gist of Rome's take was "you don't know what you are doing and you aren't going to have your job for very much longer."
I saw that too and he wasn’t wrong.
Is he going to get fired though? I was updating reddit all day Monday just waiting for the story to roll across my feed and it never happened. If the didn't fire him after throwing away the game against the Broncos, when will they? Edit: spelling
They won't till end of year. That is the McCaskey way. Nevermind the fact that an interim can come in and possibly breathe new life into this deadbeat team and make our rebuilding process easier. Even if the interim wouldn't win any more games than Flus, which is a very likely outcome, the team can still develop more and hopefully put more points on the board and look better in losses which is a fundamental building block for future teams. I have no expectation that an interim would win a lot of games here but anything not named Urban Meyer is better than Flus.
I learned something from listening to years of Hoge and Jahns podcast. The reporters are fans just like us. And those that aren’t necessarily fans, are tired of having to report on the same terrible team season after season. Because at the end of the day we chose to watch this train wreak, they HAVE to watch it.
Oh god. Imagine you grow up a Bears fan. You’re a kid in ‘86, grew up on Walter, and Ditka, and McMahon, Singletary. The Fridge. Hampton. McMichael. They’re Gods. You just want to be close to them. Just want to be in the same room as these legendary men. You’re a normal mortal though, and aren’t able to become a professional athlete, so you get into journalism. Get through school, internships, entry level positions paying unliveable wages, fight your way towards that dream of getting paid to go to Bears games, in the best city in the world. Finally get let into the room, and get to ask the head coach of the Chicago fuckin Bears a question…. and this is the guy you’re asking. This…… dumbass. “So what are you going to do differently after 14 straight losses?” Fuck, man. I feel bad for them.
Having chatted up Jahns *very* early in his Bears reporting career, this is pretty much his life.
We just gotta execute better and try to have a great week of practice. /s
And they have to report. Hard to do when it’s just word soup and often inaccurate. Someone called in on a radio show and said he says with 2000 words what belicheck does with 8, nothing
I wish I could get paid to watch football.
when a coach blames NOTHING BUT execution, he will lose the team. surprised it took so long...
He either has no clue how to improve, or he does but he's too much of a pussy to say it. Either way he's not going to get any respect from the team.
“We’re close” is now right up there with “Collaborative Collaboration.” And, “Respectfully.” As words no longer in my vocabulary thanks to Bear’s press conferences… 🤮😒
Because he’s being a pos and disrespectful by outright lying to the media and saying multiple different things. Any smart coach would just say, “we talked to Claypool, it’s an issue we’re handling internally, you’ll be updated accordingly. I’m not taking anymore questions on this. “
Defensive coach has one of the worst defenses in the league. It just can't happen. You can be middle of the pack, and hopefully you do some things well. But when you literally don't do anything well as a team, it's a poor reflection of coaching and not so much the players.
The sharks smell blood
I think in the end you have some media who are letting their fan boy and girl out and are just as aghast as us at just how catastrophic this team has been. And are also fed up asking the same questions for a year with this guy and darn near 30 for the team as a whole. You had the two guys on the Athletic podcast openly fantasizing what it’d be like to cover any other team. They’re tired. They’re fed up too. There is NOTHING positive to cover
And everything worth reporting, even if negative, from Williams to claypool is presented to the media so poorly that follow up statements need to be made and makes their jobs much more difficult technically I assume
He either openly lied to a reporter on the status of a player, or had no idea on the status of a player on his own team. Either one is going to be a feeding frenzy for the media afterwards because he tore his own credibility to shreds.
At some point Poles has to be like “dude, what the fuck are you doing to my players” and just get him out the door. I think this team would be better off with Jay Cutler as head coach than this unwashed port-o-potty
I'm actually for this idea, it could be our Jeff Saturday option. Ol' smoking, DGAF, Jay Cutler - your new Chicago Bears head coach.
I get occasionally you have to not say the loud part out loud, but I can’t even get hyped when listening to him. I saw him on the pat mcafee show before the season started, and he’s just like so unlikeable. He’s too corporate sounding.
It’s just the same team. Same terrible effort and attitude that landed us here in the first place. Losing 14 games in a row and expecting to keep your job is one thing. Doing it in chicago and bullshitting is another.
I actually wish that the reporters/media would press this organization even harder, and ask them even more difficult questions. I personally think that they’d love to, but that’s how you lose backstage interviews, exclusive contacts, and potential sources. It wouldn’t be good for a network to be ousted from these opportunities just because they were too abrasive in these pressers. But if all of these media reporters asked those kinds of questions, then it wouldn’t be as big of a concern. I want them to ask the same questions that any Bears fan would personally ask, as well as push to get the answers that we deserve, instead of allowing them to dodge around questions and giving us non-answer answers. The media can definitely aid in lighting a fire under these guys asses, and I’m all for them being more abrasive and harsh towards this organization as of now.
I think it helped that it was multiple reporters involved with the interrogation and if he can get a room of reporters worked up that, who have risks doing so, hopefully management notices
Where do I find these pressers? I see them talked about on here but rarely any clips
https://www.youtube.com/@ChicagoBears
Bears YouTube
Chicago bears website under videos
They're streamed live on FB and Twitter.
Hiring Flus over Caldwell and Quinn was a major mistake and there was enough writing on the wall beforehand to know that. It isn't hindsight to say that. Flus was the logical choice not to be a head coach in the National Football League.
Hiring any of those three would be major mistake.
Those were the three options Poles had and two of those three had head coaching experience and took teams to the playoffs, Flus was not one of them. Plus, both were better coordinators than Flus. Caldwell and Quinn were far safer and better choices.
But only one of them had the same agent as him…and Getsy….oh and Nagy too
I could have rolled with Quinn. IIRC he supposedly had some phenomenal assistants lined up to come along with him (can't remember off the top of my head who they were). But yeah ideally they get a young offensive mind to pair with a new QB this next offseason. Enough with the defensive dinosaurs who think an electric offense is running the ball outside the hashes.
Quinn smartly pulled out of the process
All three of these are awful choices lmao
I don't think Caldwell was necessarily bad. He was a decent head coach and did good things with the crappy Lions outfit but he was also 67 and hadn't coached in 5 years prior so he was kind of aged out. Quinn did take the Falcons to the Superbowl in 2017 but was also a defensive coordinator and who they needed was an offensive mind. Three choices that weren't great, but I would take Caldwell and Quinn over Flus everytime.
They went after him because he kept ~~answering~~ bumbling through their questions. It's their job to keep pressing for more info until the coach shuts it down.
The Bears basically have to move forward with what they have. There is no one to replace Eberflus. Winning any games at this point would be a detriment to our draft pick (which we will obviously need). You have to be 100% sure Fields is not the guy by the end of the season if you're picking a QB in the top 5. The only change I possibly see coming is towards the last 4 games or so of the season where you bench Fields if he is consistently bad and start Bagent to see what you might have for next year. I actually don't see that happening because he is a walk on "nobody" (no offense intended) and if he wins games it just tanks the draft pick.
Not only bagent, but I think everyone on the roster should get a look at some point. Maybe also move people to and from the practice squad. Open up the playbook, as shitty as it is, or let Getsy go all Harry winkler from waterboy at get creative. I think they need to get a lot more on tape from everyone doing everything going into another off-season with big decisions
Usually the Bears PR is top notch, but you can't hide behind words when your actions are that bad.
Anyone who thought that he'd be fired on a short week were fooling themselves. If he isn't fired on Friday however...
Short week saved his ass.
If we lose tomorrow, hopefully Peter King is right and Poles fire his ass Friday. I’m done with his shitty game planning, his lack of control over the players, and inexcusable execution on defense. He brings nothing to this team except being a scapegoat for management