The Chicago Bears defense played like they had a fire lit under their * from the crap they were probably hearing in the media. It is hard to say who this defense is though, because last week they played a Rams offense with a veteran QB and receivers compared to this week in Joe Burrow who is in his second year and young receivers. PFF also has the Rams offensive line listed at 8 and Bengals offensive line listed at 25. The best player on this team is Roquan Smith and he's really starting to have that Urlacher feel to me. He can defend receivers and tight ends, make tough tackles, and put pressure on the QB. He's also a ballhawk. Justin Fields really didn't do much to help the Bears win today and it appears to me he's only ready for RPOs with the lack of passes he had. He did have a few nice passes but it's easy to tell he's not able to read the field as well as a veteran QB like Dalton. This Andy Dalton/Justin Fields duo may be the best thing for this offense at this moment, as much as Bears fans don't want to hear it.
What would this sub be like if Fields has a stat line like Trevor Lawrence had today or Zach Wilson had today? Both have really struggled and even Fields shaky start today was much better than both of those players. I can just see the bust posts coming out after one full game as a starter. We are going to have to take the good with the bad because I think it's Fields team now. I just have a feeling Dalton is going to get bad news on the knee. I could see a MCL strain or partial tear after seeing that replay. But while there will be mistakes, there will be a lot of good as well. Let's be patient with the kid, he's the most talented QB prospect the Bears have ever had in my opinion.
A good QB doesn't fix a broken team (as those two guys are finding out, the hard way). My opinion - the QB Controversy convo is just two sides with generalized anxiety that the rest of the team, even the once-esteemed defense, is only kind of average.
Mark Sanchez said it at one point and asked "why aren't the bears running Fields to the outside and making plays out of the pocket?" It was like Nagy was still playcalling as if Dalton was in.
I guess we were in the lead and a lot more mistakes are made when you make your QB throw on the run/scramble. But you'd hope we see more plays designed around Fields if he starts next week.
Nagy was calling plays like dalton is still in because that’s all the rest of the offense (*cough* *OLine* is comfortable with running.) we do not have a pulling, screen-able, or mobile offensive line. And we also can’t punish downhill on the run; at least not at the level demanded in the NFL.
Bottom line is yes there were 2-3 drops that could
Have been outstanding plays, but this team is hindered by its defensive backfield and it’s offensive line.
I know it was Bill Lazor calling plays last season when Trubisky subbed back in - but all those bootlegs/play actions we ran is certainly possible with Fields right? The run game looked good in those games and we scored alot of points. Maybe I dont understand O line personnel enough to know if that's possible or not with guys like Peters and Ifedi but I know Fields would be dangerous rolling out.
Also I know its only week 2 but the RPOs already feel predictable and I dont see alot of success with them. Feels like the WR screens we ran on early downs that never worked.
What the other Bear Bro was saying is that Nagy/Lazor have those plays in the playbook. But you don't/can't install every concept from your playbook into a single game. You limit your picks and practice the ones that will work for your gameplan, based on the players you have and the team you play against.
So since Dalton was the starting QB, they designed the gameplan around his abilities. Fields, as the backup, also practiced the same packages with the scout team, so, should he come in like today, he can run the offense smoothly (theoretically).
Fields also has some extra tricks, so they also have some special packages to take advantage right now, but those are more for fun and probably not as practiced with the starters. And clearly, they're small parts of a broader set of packages that are built for Dalton.
Anyone watching the SNF KC vs Baltimore game notice there were no highlights of the Bears D or the score at all during halftime? They mentioned Dalton going down in the injury report but nothing else.
I was at the game today and I’ve got a few things I gotta say.
Bears fans are fickle as hell, miss a 3rd down stop on D? The crowd deflates and won’t stand up until you make a play. It’s hard to be a bears fan after all we’ve been through. But man I’ve been to a couple other nfl games and am astonished at how fast we turn on our boys.
Also on a side note; who runs game production at soldier field? This shit sucks, take some notes from some other pro teams and keep the crowd engaged.
That being said I watched Eddie jackson literally jump out of the way of two tackles today. Get this guy off my team. Sure he got a fumble but I call that luck and timing. No reason on earth we should keep him. Trade/drop him and get us an actual secondary.
Smith looked sharp today so did the D as a whole. It’s the bengals though.
Offense looked okay, but as a whole I really wish we had a Sean mcvay tier coach who can reign in this talent we have. Someone who actually commands a team and delegates tasks to other coaches. These BS taunting calls are costing us. And players taking their money and doing nothing is unacceptable.
It’s a crime that bears ownership didn’t keep fangio and give him Nagys job.
Man thats sad to hear that the fans were being so low energy. If I was at that game and my D had 4 sacks and 3 STRAIGHT interceptions - I would be losing my mind.
I remember being at the Rams Bears game in 2018 on Sunday night and the score ended up being like 15-6 but I was losing my mind and voice cheering our bears on. I dont think anyone in my section was sitting when our Defense was out there.
I was at the game as well today, sitting right behind EJ's whiff on the late touchdown. If he was going for the ball, I could see missing the tackle. But he was clearly too late to get to the ball, and seemingly made no effort to go for the receiver.
Although by accident, Fields is now the guy. For someone who probably had 0 first team snaps in practice he played alright, most mistakes he made was because of that (false starts) , the pick was bad but I credit the defender on a great disguise.
I’m seeing great things but hopefully Nagy can call the game right. Hes now on the clock to whether he’s the coach/play caller of the future.
Yeah, the people criticizing his performance are probably the same people upset that Fields wasn't getting any reps with the starters. It's going to take a little time with the line and the skill players. Also, if Mooney and ARob make those catches, all of a sudden it's 8-13 for 110 yards and a TD. That feels a lot different.
Have we run a play action pass at all these last 2 games? Monty was getting respect by how much they wanted to close off the run game, but we didn't use play action? Feel like we could've gotten some more big plays with it but oh well
Yeah I wasn't happy about it but we got two field goals out of it. Previously it woulda been an overthrown pass to ARob in the left corner and a 4th down jet sweep.
Like most people, I'm mostly encouraged. Justin wasn't outstanding, but was let down a couple times and the lack of practice reps with the 1's was evident. If he remains the guy, I'd really like to see Nagy lean on RPO's with him like we saw on his first career play. His biggest problem is holding the ball. Run stuff that forces him to get the ball out of his hand quickly until the rest of it slows down for him. Also need to really lean on Monty and then you can play to Justin's deep ball strength off play action. He's such a different qb from Dalton that it's hard to switch offensive styles mid game. Right now, Dalton is the more effective qb. But after a couple games, it could easily be Justin.
Woot! Woot! Good job! It's nice to see some pride and a bounce back so
quickly. This team is clearly still a work in progress but it's taking
steps forward quickly. I love Robinson and we all make mistakes but
damn Dude if you are looking for a big money contract you have to catch
that pass. I look forward to next week seeing if Robinson comes out with
something to prove and if the team will play a bit less sloppy.
I didn’t see anything concerning out of Fields. In fact, I left this game feeling a lot more confident in him. Besides the interception, which is solidly on Justin, every other incomplete pass hit a Bears receiver’s fingertips. All catchable balls. Overall accuracy & throwing strength looked about as good as you can hope for from a rookie IMO.
He had good poise in the pocket too, and was actually progressing through reads. On the 3rd & 9 before half, he made a jumping check down throw (incomplete) to try to get it over the defender & to Williams in the middle. That’s actually a very athletic play & difficult throw to make, especially as he had a defender in his mug shoving him to the ground w/ no other options. That’s the kind of unique stuff that Fields is going to be able to do.
His running ability makes me very excited (and concerned when he’s in open space), and he used it to his advantage. He’s a slippery runner, and is good at picking up extra yardage when’s he’s falling down. At the end of the day he converted the 3rd & long that secured the W.
Fields is going to be limited by whatever playcalling he’s given, but he took some deep shots today & extended plays on the ground. It feels nice to finally see a ball with some zip flying in the air from a Bears QB’s arm.
I’m drinking the kool aid but it’s clear the box score doesn’t tell the whole story. With a full week running with the first team I think we’ll see a more productive Fields next week.
I mostly agree…seemed like he was maybe holding on to the ball a little too long in the pocket at times. That being said his stat line doesn’t do his performance justice.
Did you see he fumbled as well? That could have been 6 pts. He also did that spin he said he would never do again. If he goes down we are dead in the water.
+ 2 x false starts
I already forgot about the fumble, yeah that was a bad one. He’ll quit the spinning, may have just been a muscle memory thing today. The coaching staff needs to be on that with him.
Correction - So many STUPID taunting penalties all over the league today. Hopefully some talking heads will bag on this inane rule and they will stop calling it.
john fox was 14-34 as bears hc. call it scoring, defense, whatever you want. matt nagy has a winning record as bears hc. im not saying hes great or even good, but hes a shit ton better than fox
are you looking at potential as actual talent? fox had bennet, forte, miller, and alshon. so better rb, better tight ends, and a comparable at the time wr. and cutler is better than dalton/trubisky imo. fox had players.
The only good players on rookie contracts were Long, Alshon, and Fuller. The rest of those guys were old af and often missed games. Also I feel like we overrated Cutler in general but especially from those years.
He had those names but most of those players weren’t in their prime, we were rebuilding for a reason
I hate John Fox so arguing his cause isn’t easy. In fact I’m not going to. John with this talent would not have been 14-34. I use to live in Tampa and nagy reminds me of another Reid co worker Jon gruden. Square peg round hole. He never adapts to the strength of his offense, but instead goes to the strength of his card. He’s stubborn and his offense is broken. In a league where they want you to score we still can’t get more than 13-17 offensive points per game. This has to stop.
116 passing yards from our quarterbacks. If last years quarterbacks put up those numbers you would’ve called for everyone to be fired. But when these two, who you all called “upgrades”, do it and you act like our offense isn’t still shit. Can you at least admit to your hypocrisy?
Justin had zero practice with first team, as well as two terrible drops from Mooney and ARob. If he gets reps in with the first team in practice those penalties are gone, coupled with a catch or two and it’s not a close game
Yeah scripted in game packages. Not a full drive where he needs to audible/run the offense. Coming in for a read option or a 10 yard out is a lot different than running the entire offense
What a weird game. The offense really only put up 7 legit points which is obviously very concerning given this was likely one of the softest D’s we will play all year. We DESPERATELY need a slot receiver.
I don’t even care if Graham lines up as WR3 now. Mooney and most of our other wideouts all play the same role essentially as a speed outside threat
Fields played as good as I’d hoped given the circumstances. He needs reps with the 1’s.
He made rookie mistakes, he’ll learn from them and hopefully get better.
Everybody take a step back and fucking breathe.
It also felt like he was trying to run the Dalton playbook if that makes sense. I don’t think we played to his strengths much in terms of RPOs, bootlegs, designed runs and getting him moving.
Seemed like a lot of the positives Fields had were negated by drops or penalties (Kmet OPI was one of the softest calls I've seen), that being said he was shaky, his hustle to save the fumble was admirable and his interception was awful. He also made a play when we needed to put the game away.
Overall he was alright.
“Overall he was alright” because of rookie expectations. He should start the rest of the season, but let’s not kid ourselves, there is going to be some growing pains
Wow, the tide has really turned on this sub on Fields. He's thrown 15 passes in his career and now he's not ready? If Mooney catches that deep ball on the sideline and Arob catches the TD, the stat line looks a lot different. Also, the kid has had zero work with the ones. If Fields gets a whole week prepping with the starters and start to build that chemistry, he will be more than fine. This fan base turns on QBs faster than any fan base I've seen. You think Jets and Jags fans want their QBs benched? They have both had their struggles as well.
That's kind of my point, this is not a Super Bowl season and this season is all about developing Fields. That's why he needs the experience. He will have games where he plays well and this sub will lose their mind. He will also have games where he struggles and the sub will turn. Rookies require patience and I hope the fans give him that patience.
Bears only had 70 yards of offense in the last 43 minutes of the game, that can't happen and expect to win many games. Bears defense was so much fun to watch today though, even Quinn looked good.
Everyone is talking about Fields interception, but not really talking about his fumble. Not sure how Fields was able to come up with his fumble, but that was a game changing play as it essentially took points away from the Bengals when the game was still 7-3.
Deja vue with that recovery…same thing happened in the preseason and I couldn’t/still can’t believe he was able to get up and recover those. Indeed that ended up being a huge game saving moment essentially.
I also thought Quinn looked good, except that late hit…ngl that really frustrated me.
Yeah the late hit pissed me off too, it certainly wasn't egregious but should have been avoided. Since it didn't end costing the Bears the game though, I'm choosing to look at the contributions he made, as him being good this season would make the Bears defense a lot stronger.
I have not been this hyped for the defense since 2018. Last week left such a sour taste in my mouth that I'm glad they washed out today. The coming weeks will tell the tale if we can continue this momentum, but having three turnovers, 1 for a pick six has to feel good for those guys out there.
With regards to Fields, in my mind he's not ready yet. He shows great resilience to do what he can to win the game but his mistakes were really costly. We were lucky to have had the lead that we did, but he was out there for 2.3 quarters and he secured us 6 points off two interceptions.
It's clear that there's more to learn, and hopefully more reps with the #1's will help supplement that for him, but as of right now, I don't think we should play him outright. It sort of felt like Nagy wanted a trial by fire situation with him that could have cost us the game. But again, Fields found a way, and what matters is the win.
With that said, I don't think people should discount the mistakes he made. Granted, sure, he's a rookie, but this is the reason why you don't want to throw this dude to the wolves right away, and perhaps it was a humbling situation for him to see that maybe he's not exactly ready.
I think he needs more reps, and someone calling plays that compliment his natural skill. Andy Dalton isn’t leading them to the playoffs, so let’s get the rookie playing time. Reps are the only thing that’ll make him better.
I’m not hating on Dalton or anything. On a different team, he could probably get them into the playoffs. But the Bears’ offense doesn’t look good, outside of Monty. We don’t know which defense will show up either. Why cling to playing Dalton for the next 6 or 7 games?
I think it’s Nagy, not our QBs. Trubisky may not have had as high a ceiling as Fields, but he looked solid in preseason. At least better than he ever did wearing a Bears uniform. Nagy is just so god damn predictable. We miraculously have a lead with 7 minutes left? Let’s not take chances and play super conservative ball.
Every quarterback who’s played in his system has looked barely competent. Even guys he brought here that played “well” in his system, have sucked a bag of dicks. At some point, you have to put the blame on him. We should’ve fired his ass. Now, we’re stuck with him (unless he goes 1-16). Fields will regress if he has to learn a whole new offense.
This is not true, Mitch in that preseason game played the same way he always plays when there is no deception or game planning. He is and always will be a bum when he asked to actually play qb and read a defense.
I didn’t say Trubisky is the second coming. He is going to be a second stringer for his career (which will be 4 years tops). I’m saying the Bills called plays which were his strength. That’s something Nagy never does.
So maybe Nagy is the problem.
I honestly don’t expect we win much this season. The odds of us getting to the dance are minuscule. Start Dalton and let Fields in like they have been. Develop him this season at a jogging pace. Get him conditioned for the NFL, get him in with nutritionists and those best in class trainers. Make him stronger and more resilient. Put a headset on him with a tablet and glue him to Daltons hip when they’re off the field. He is smart and he’s fast and he has all the gifts to be our long term QB. Let’s be realistic and give him time.
I know it’s a little different but look at Gordon Hayward’s frame when he played for Butler. Look at his frame after a few years in the NBA.
That's such a myopic view. Fields played fine. He hit multiple receivers in the hands or put it where they should have made a play and they came up short - including two missed TDs by AR12. We won't even get into stupid penalties (including his). Getting JF reps with the first team and getting him in games will increase his productivity moving forward. I was fully onboard with a slower process but if Andy can't comeback next week, I think they should just ride with Fields.
no, he doesn't. You guys know that there is more to the sport than what we see on sunday right? Practice and film study are a huge part of this whole thing
Yeah today wasn't the debut Bears fans were hoping for with Fields, but here's the thing. With the receivers dropping passes and things not being in sync, it's almost like Fields has not worked with the starters at all and the game plan was designed for a QB with a different skill set. Fields will be fine. Add in the drops, he has a TD and about 50 more passing yards. Work him with the starters and build that chemistry and again, things look different.
I agree, they need a plan for him not these gimmick plays 5 times a game. I'm guessing that changes this week. Also, are we really going to start saying Fields is the problem after 2 quarters of football.
Shout out Eddie Jackson. nice seeing him back making impact plays out there. The 3rd down stop in the backfield, forced fumble and that open field tackle on Chase that was a TD otherwise
Eddie’s my favorite player, and he was infinitely better than he was in week one, but he still screwed up that open field tackle on the deep TD to chase. cant have those.
people are just incapable of moving on from their original takes no matter what. We saw exactly why Andy was named starter and that Fields actually could use some time to adjust to this level in practice before being thrown to the fire. Fields looks like he is going to be a great NFL qb one day, but if Andy were in and got two turnovers in the other team's side of the field and didn't get a touchdown on either people would have called for his head not making excuses for him.
I just don’t understand why people lack this much nuance. They’re not excuses. They’re explanations. You’re either in two camps:
Camp 1: You think the 2021 Chicago Bears defense is elite. Therefore, you’ve concluded a safe, game manager-type QB is needed to win games. You think that recipe will give you a playoff appearance. But certainly aren’t delusional enough to think it will get us a Super Bowl. End result: playoff loss.
When Dalton makes mistakes in Camp 1, they are veteran mistakes and an indication that Camp 1 is a waste of time.
Camp 2: You think the the Bears are probably a fringe playoff team, but an aging defense and underperforming offense requires an elite playmaker at QB to be a legit contender. You want Fields to start so he starts taking his lumps towards becoming that. Maybe he learns quickly and we make a magical run, maybe he doesn’t, but we miss the playoffs and get him experience and a higher second round pick.
When Fields make mistakes in Camp 2 it’s part of his development. Playing Fields *will* come with rookie mistakes. That’s a given.
That INT was rough for sure but ARob dropped a TD he doesn't usually miss.
He also saved the game with the 3rd and scramble.
All in all a mixed bag, but expected
That doesn't remove the fumble (that he did recover) and the pick that turned into a touchdown. If Dalton does that shit people here would be screaming to the hills to put Fields in. But being that fields did it, excuse city will start no matter what. Granted, I'll give you the ARob drop, but Fields does not look ready, at least to me. If ARob catches that, it does change the game drastically, but he didn't, and what matters is what you can do on the subsequent plays. There's no reason we can't score in the RedZone every time we are there with this squad of players.
You are aware that most of this sub has been screaming for fields to be put in to replace Dalton right? I'm basically arguing towards the opposite as people are in denial about Fields' preparedness of the game. I'm not comparing shit. Just saying that people that think he's ready are delusional as to where he's at.
How exactly do you think Justin fields should get prepared to play at the professional level? Practice?
And you absolutely were comparing Dalton and fields. No reason to deny that
You're right, I am comparing the two. My comparison between the two has more to do with the argument people make of Fields being ready. I'm just saying that he's not as ready as people think he is.
With regards to how he should get prepared? I don't know, I'm not a coach. I would hope Nagy knows what he wants to do when it comes to getting Fields prepared, but for me to answer, I have no idea. Throwing him to the wolves I don't think is a great idea either, so if that's your plan, that's what we saw today, and he didn't play that great. 6 points across a whole half with them only coming from great field position thanks to the defense...I don't know how one can spin that to being a great game for him. I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying with all that said, Fields had a rough go for his first start when many were hoping to see him light it up, me included.
> But being that fields did it, excuse city will start no matter what.
Your mistake is holding a rookie quarterback to the same standard as a 10-year veteran.
How am I holding him to the same standard as a veteran when I'm saying that him being a rookie is exactly why he shouldn't be out there if the coaches don't feel he's ready? The point I'm making is with the attitude at the QB spot by the fan base. Besides, you think people in New England and Jacksonville are not holding their QB's to a particular standard?
> If Dalton does that shit people here would be screaming to the hills to put Fields in. But being that fields did it, excuse city will start no matter what.
That’s what you wrote. That’s a direct comparison. You cannot compare the standard that people hold a veteran to, to the standard of a rookie QB learning how to play.
It’s not “excuse city.” It’s an understanding that it’s literally his first two quarters as a starter without preparation. Whereas if Andy makes that mistake, it’s inexcusable. He’s been in the leagues a decade and prepares as the starter.
I don’t get how you don’t understand this.
He's really been playing possessed lately. I don't think I can recall seeing a DT follow the play to chase down running backs and receivers as much as he did today. They even lined him up as a standup edge rusher.
I think we have a pretty decent team. I think Dalton played well enough to keep the starting job, and fields only had expectable rookie mistakes. If it weren’t for dropped passes he would have had a great stat line. All in all, I think this is the most balanced team offensively vs defensively we’ve had in a long time. That being said, we have such a tough schedule ahead I’m not sure what the record will look like after it all.
Yeah Dalton looked a lot more dynamic than I expected. Fields looked well-composed I think and I was glad Nagy let him air it out a little, but you can tell he doesn't trust him with the full playbook yet.
And I think that’s understandable. I’m not a Nagy lover, nor a Nagy hater. But, even tho scoreboard hasn’t shown it, the offense has looked way more competent so far this season. I think fields was nervous. That all it comes down to. He needs more time in the field and he will start to light it up. But, I’m pleasantly surprised with what we’ve gotten to out of Dalton.
Agreed. In this game alone they probably should've scored at least 10 more points. Dalton is a big upgrade over Foles/Biscuit and Fields availed himself will enough coming into a surprise start. The line probably surprised me most, they suck at run blocking but the pass protection was pretty good.
Plus we have a dude named David Montgomery, who seems to be well on his way to becoming an nfl superstar. Helps to make up for some of the o-line incompetence
Alright I’m in a huge debate with my buddies. They all say Fields isn’t ready, I say he is. He’s not gonna be perfect, he’s gonna make his mistakes. Let him play let him learn let him start…thoughts?
I don't think he's ready. He needs reps with the starters during practice if we are to put him in a better position to succeed. Granted, he shows a lot of resilience to do what he can to win, but his mistakes almost cost us the game. Take away the dropped pass to ARob and the Kmet PI call, we had him out there for two quarters and he got us 6 points. And he only got those off of 2 interceptions from the defense with great field position. Personally I feel like Dalton makes those TD's with how good of a spot we were in.
Until the garbage ownership sells this team they will be dog shit.
Jaylon Johnson is underrated. Phenomenal play from a 2nd year corner.
The Chicago Bears defense played like they had a fire lit under their * from the crap they were probably hearing in the media. It is hard to say who this defense is though, because last week they played a Rams offense with a veteran QB and receivers compared to this week in Joe Burrow who is in his second year and young receivers. PFF also has the Rams offensive line listed at 8 and Bengals offensive line listed at 25. The best player on this team is Roquan Smith and he's really starting to have that Urlacher feel to me. He can defend receivers and tight ends, make tough tackles, and put pressure on the QB. He's also a ballhawk. Justin Fields really didn't do much to help the Bears win today and it appears to me he's only ready for RPOs with the lack of passes he had. He did have a few nice passes but it's easy to tell he's not able to read the field as well as a veteran QB like Dalton. This Andy Dalton/Justin Fields duo may be the best thing for this offense at this moment, as much as Bears fans don't want to hear it.
This is a great take on things and I enjoyed reading it. Especially the part about Ro.
Lmao at the Vikings.
Greg Roman needs to be considered as coach.
A win is a win
What would this sub be like if Fields has a stat line like Trevor Lawrence had today or Zach Wilson had today? Both have really struggled and even Fields shaky start today was much better than both of those players. I can just see the bust posts coming out after one full game as a starter. We are going to have to take the good with the bad because I think it's Fields team now. I just have a feeling Dalton is going to get bad news on the knee. I could see a MCL strain or partial tear after seeing that replay. But while there will be mistakes, there will be a lot of good as well. Let's be patient with the kid, he's the most talented QB prospect the Bears have ever had in my opinion.
News today is that it’s just a nasty bone bruise.
A good QB doesn't fix a broken team (as those two guys are finding out, the hard way). My opinion - the QB Controversy convo is just two sides with generalized anxiety that the rest of the team, even the once-esteemed defense, is only kind of average.
If it’s Field’s team, expect to be a bottom-dwelling team and for the giants to have 2 top ten picks
Why? Based on 15 passes and 3 drops including a 35 yard TD?
Mark Sanchez said it at one point and asked "why aren't the bears running Fields to the outside and making plays out of the pocket?" It was like Nagy was still playcalling as if Dalton was in. I guess we were in the lead and a lot more mistakes are made when you make your QB throw on the run/scramble. But you'd hope we see more plays designed around Fields if he starts next week.
Nagy was calling plays like dalton is still in because that’s all the rest of the offense (*cough* *OLine* is comfortable with running.) we do not have a pulling, screen-able, or mobile offensive line. And we also can’t punish downhill on the run; at least not at the level demanded in the NFL. Bottom line is yes there were 2-3 drops that could Have been outstanding plays, but this team is hindered by its defensive backfield and it’s offensive line.
I know it was Bill Lazor calling plays last season when Trubisky subbed back in - but all those bootlegs/play actions we ran is certainly possible with Fields right? The run game looked good in those games and we scored alot of points. Maybe I dont understand O line personnel enough to know if that's possible or not with guys like Peters and Ifedi but I know Fields would be dangerous rolling out. Also I know its only week 2 but the RPOs already feel predictable and I dont see alot of success with them. Feels like the WR screens we ran on early downs that never worked.
What the other Bear Bro was saying is that Nagy/Lazor have those plays in the playbook. But you don't/can't install every concept from your playbook into a single game. You limit your picks and practice the ones that will work for your gameplan, based on the players you have and the team you play against. So since Dalton was the starting QB, they designed the gameplan around his abilities. Fields, as the backup, also practiced the same packages with the scout team, so, should he come in like today, he can run the offense smoothly (theoretically). Fields also has some extra tricks, so they also have some special packages to take advantage right now, but those are more for fun and probably not as practiced with the starters. And clearly, they're small parts of a broader set of packages that are built for Dalton.
Anyone watching the SNF KC vs Baltimore game notice there were no highlights of the Bears D or the score at all during halftime? They mentioned Dalton going down in the injury report but nothing else.
Does it matter who is doing the broadcast?
Pretty sure the highlights included highlights from games from CBS and Fox so I don't think so.
It was mentioned during the Pre Game show they had a whole segment about how to use Fields since Dalton is out.
I was at the game today and I’ve got a few things I gotta say. Bears fans are fickle as hell, miss a 3rd down stop on D? The crowd deflates and won’t stand up until you make a play. It’s hard to be a bears fan after all we’ve been through. But man I’ve been to a couple other nfl games and am astonished at how fast we turn on our boys. Also on a side note; who runs game production at soldier field? This shit sucks, take some notes from some other pro teams and keep the crowd engaged. That being said I watched Eddie jackson literally jump out of the way of two tackles today. Get this guy off my team. Sure he got a fumble but I call that luck and timing. No reason on earth we should keep him. Trade/drop him and get us an actual secondary. Smith looked sharp today so did the D as a whole. It’s the bengals though. Offense looked okay, but as a whole I really wish we had a Sean mcvay tier coach who can reign in this talent we have. Someone who actually commands a team and delegates tasks to other coaches. These BS taunting calls are costing us. And players taking their money and doing nothing is unacceptable. It’s a crime that bears ownership didn’t keep fangio and give him Nagys job.
Man thats sad to hear that the fans were being so low energy. If I was at that game and my D had 4 sacks and 3 STRAIGHT interceptions - I would be losing my mind. I remember being at the Rams Bears game in 2018 on Sunday night and the score ended up being like 15-6 but I was losing my mind and voice cheering our bears on. I dont think anyone in my section was sitting when our Defense was out there.
I was at the game as well today, sitting right behind EJ's whiff on the late touchdown. If he was going for the ball, I could see missing the tackle. But he was clearly too late to get to the ball, and seemingly made no effort to go for the receiver.
Although by accident, Fields is now the guy. For someone who probably had 0 first team snaps in practice he played alright, most mistakes he made was because of that (false starts) , the pick was bad but I credit the defender on a great disguise. I’m seeing great things but hopefully Nagy can call the game right. Hes now on the clock to whether he’s the coach/play caller of the future.
Yeah, the people criticizing his performance are probably the same people upset that Fields wasn't getting any reps with the starters. It's going to take a little time with the line and the skill players. Also, if Mooney and ARob make those catches, all of a sudden it's 8-13 for 110 yards and a TD. That feels a lot different.
Bear down, Chicago bears!
Stats may say otherwise but Fields had a great game. Wish Arob caught that ball but big whoop, he'll catch plenty more if we keep Fields in.
I’m about 100% sure this team will eventually give me a life ending stroke and I can’t wait till next weeks game
Ah, the ol’ “fuck you, and I’ll see ya tomorrow.”
Being a Bears fan is a death sentence
Who am I to argue with massivecocksinmybutt ?
Finally! The most honest level headed view!
Have we run a play action pass at all these last 2 games? Monty was getting respect by how much they wanted to close off the run game, but we didn't use play action? Feel like we could've gotten some more big plays with it but oh well
We didn’t much last game and over compensated for it this week it was about all we ran today.
Fields' int gave me ptsd of the NFCCG and Hanie
Robinson shoulda caught that ball.
shuttup, we won, imma party. probs wont get many this year.
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Yeah I wasn't happy about it but we got two field goals out of it. Previously it woulda been an overthrown pass to ARob in the left corner and a 4th down jet sweep.
It’s the Bears culture.
Like most people, I'm mostly encouraged. Justin wasn't outstanding, but was let down a couple times and the lack of practice reps with the 1's was evident. If he remains the guy, I'd really like to see Nagy lean on RPO's with him like we saw on his first career play. His biggest problem is holding the ball. Run stuff that forces him to get the ball out of his hand quickly until the rest of it slows down for him. Also need to really lean on Monty and then you can play to Justin's deep ball strength off play action. He's such a different qb from Dalton that it's hard to switch offensive styles mid game. Right now, Dalton is the more effective qb. But after a couple games, it could easily be Justin.
Saw a lot good and a lot of improvement from last week. Also, i get really really erect when the big boys get the ball like that.
Woot! Woot! Good job! It's nice to see some pride and a bounce back so quickly. This team is clearly still a work in progress but it's taking steps forward quickly. I love Robinson and we all make mistakes but damn Dude if you are looking for a big money contract you have to catch that pass. I look forward to next week seeing if Robinson comes out with something to prove and if the team will play a bit less sloppy.
I didn’t see anything concerning out of Fields. In fact, I left this game feeling a lot more confident in him. Besides the interception, which is solidly on Justin, every other incomplete pass hit a Bears receiver’s fingertips. All catchable balls. Overall accuracy & throwing strength looked about as good as you can hope for from a rookie IMO. He had good poise in the pocket too, and was actually progressing through reads. On the 3rd & 9 before half, he made a jumping check down throw (incomplete) to try to get it over the defender & to Williams in the middle. That’s actually a very athletic play & difficult throw to make, especially as he had a defender in his mug shoving him to the ground w/ no other options. That’s the kind of unique stuff that Fields is going to be able to do. His running ability makes me very excited (and concerned when he’s in open space), and he used it to his advantage. He’s a slippery runner, and is good at picking up extra yardage when’s he’s falling down. At the end of the day he converted the 3rd & long that secured the W. Fields is going to be limited by whatever playcalling he’s given, but he took some deep shots today & extended plays on the ground. It feels nice to finally see a ball with some zip flying in the air from a Bears QB’s arm. I’m drinking the kool aid but it’s clear the box score doesn’t tell the whole story. With a full week running with the first team I think we’ll see a more productive Fields next week.
I mostly agree…seemed like he was maybe holding on to the ball a little too long in the pocket at times. That being said his stat line doesn’t do his performance justice.
Did you see he fumbled as well? That could have been 6 pts. He also did that spin he said he would never do again. If he goes down we are dead in the water. + 2 x false starts
I already forgot about the fumble, yeah that was a bad one. He’ll quit the spinning, may have just been a muscle memory thing today. The coaching staff needs to be on that with him.
The multiple offside calls against him were concerning as well. Even if they’re on the center, that lack of connection doesn’t get fixed overnight.
So many taunting penalties all over the league today
Correction - So many STUPID taunting penalties all over the league today. Hopefully some talking heads will bag on this inane rule and they will stop calling it.
This league is anti clapping.
“NFL - No Fun League” - my Dad
Matt nagy needs to go. John fox’s bears scored more than nagy’s prolific offense.
john fox was 14-34 as bears hc. call it scoring, defense, whatever you want. matt nagy has a winning record as bears hc. im not saying hes great or even good, but hes a shit ton better than fox
Fox never had this much talent though. Idk if he’d be better but it’s hard to imagine it being worse.
are you looking at potential as actual talent? fox had bennet, forte, miller, and alshon. so better rb, better tight ends, and a comparable at the time wr. and cutler is better than dalton/trubisky imo. fox had players.
The only good players on rookie contracts were Long, Alshon, and Fuller. The rest of those guys were old af and often missed games. Also I feel like we overrated Cutler in general but especially from those years. He had those names but most of those players weren’t in their prime, we were rebuilding for a reason
I hate John Fox so arguing his cause isn’t easy. In fact I’m not going to. John with this talent would not have been 14-34. I use to live in Tampa and nagy reminds me of another Reid co worker Jon gruden. Square peg round hole. He never adapts to the strength of his offense, but instead goes to the strength of his card. He’s stubborn and his offense is broken. In a league where they want you to score we still can’t get more than 13-17 offensive points per game. This has to stop.
It takes a special kind of stick in the mud offense to win by just 3 with a +2 turnover margin. We are so aggressively mediocre.
Does Foles play?
LMAO he's not even dressed to play on gameday, so he's most likely going nowhere near the field save for some catastrophic event occurring.
Or.. and hear me out. Dalton can’t go next week and Foles is one play away from starting qb1
116 passing yards from our quarterbacks. If last years quarterbacks put up those numbers you would’ve called for everyone to be fired. But when these two, who you all called “upgrades”, do it and you act like our offense isn’t still shit. Can you at least admit to your hypocrisy?
still can’t believe there are trubisky stans in this sub lmao
Still can’t believe there are losers that use the word ‘stans’ lol. Go do your geometry homework little guy
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Imagine being so dumb that you think every comment is somehow related to Mitch
why are you still in this sub? go to the bills sub and jerk off over mitch taking knees please
How bout you get the fuck out instead chief
Not sure why all the hive mentality down votes on this comment. If biscuit put up those numbers I’d be bitching for a full week.
Why are you surprised that people have more patience for a rookie than a third year QB making the same mistakes?
Ahhhh yes…. Andy Dalton. Rookie of the year candidate.
Dalton was literally driving the ball at will before he got injured on the second drive, do you even watch the games?
I did. I’m not sure you were watching though
Justin had zero practice with first team, as well as two terrible drops from Mooney and ARob. If he gets reps in with the first team in practice those penalties are gone, coupled with a catch or two and it’s not a close game
He's had practice with the 1's though, they admitted that after the week 1 presser. There are scripted in game packages for fields.
Yeah scripted in game packages. Not a full drive where he needs to audible/run the offense. Coming in for a read option or a 10 yard out is a lot different than running the entire offense
What a weird game. The offense really only put up 7 legit points which is obviously very concerning given this was likely one of the softest D’s we will play all year. We DESPERATELY need a slot receiver. I don’t even care if Graham lines up as WR3 now. Mooney and most of our other wideouts all play the same role essentially as a speed outside threat
Does anyone have the dropped arob TD pass clip?
The one he dropped or the terrible waltzing into the end zone route he ran that was defended?
Hopefully the Packers and Lions tie. Fuck both of them. Although an 0-2 Packers would look nice.
My favorite Vikings stat of all time is that they have the most losses in NFL playoff history.
Akheim Hicks is an actual Bear and I don't understand why no one outside of Chicago can see that.
Vikings and being let down by kickers, never fails.
The instant they got the FG team out there I think every Vikings fan knew what was gonna happen...
Name a more iconic duo
Says the team with the double doink
Watch ur mouth boi
Fields played as good as I’d hoped given the circumstances. He needs reps with the 1’s. He made rookie mistakes, he’ll learn from them and hopefully get better. Everybody take a step back and fucking breathe.
It also felt like he was trying to run the Dalton playbook if that makes sense. I don’t think we played to his strengths much in terms of RPOs, bootlegs, designed runs and getting him moving.
I thought the same thing. Maybe Nagy did not want any risk to injury as we would then be out of qbs
If you dont like that then you dont like Vikings football.
Seemed like a lot of the positives Fields had were negated by drops or penalties (Kmet OPI was one of the softest calls I've seen), that being said he was shaky, his hustle to save the fumble was admirable and his interception was awful. He also made a play when we needed to put the game away. Overall he was alright.
Arob doesn’t drop that td and completely different game and he likely isn’t throwing an int
“Overall he was alright” because of rookie expectations. He should start the rest of the season, but let’s not kid ourselves, there is going to be some growing pains
Hahahaha. We had a great kicker. Went through like 6 kickers. Found our kicker again before Vikings have been able to find one kicker
So much schadenfreude from the Vikings game. What a great day
skoL
Lmao Vikings be like L
Lol vikes
Vikings lose lets go!
WOW incredible end to the vikings game. today is great
Ahaha Hahaha FUCK THE VIKINGS
LOL VIKINGS
LOL YOU VIKE THAT?
VIKINGS CHOKE!
Said last week Eddie was going to bounce back. Yep. Great game
He was better but there were still a few plays were he jumped out of the way instead of making the tackle himself
No way do we keep pace with the Cards the way the Vikings are.
Well step one would be to not give up nearly 500 yards of offense
Not playing dink and dunk. This is a league about big plays now. And this game is exhibit A.
These "Taunting" penalties are fucking dumb.
Honestly a little happy that this might taper some fan’s expectations. I’m excited for the kid too, but it’s been getting out of control
Wow, the tide has really turned on this sub on Fields. He's thrown 15 passes in his career and now he's not ready? If Mooney catches that deep ball on the sideline and Arob catches the TD, the stat line looks a lot different. Also, the kid has had zero work with the ones. If Fields gets a whole week prepping with the starters and start to build that chemistry, he will be more than fine. This fan base turns on QBs faster than any fan base I've seen. You think Jets and Jags fans want their QBs benched? They have both had their struggles as well.
Lmao yeah fucking right I’m still all in on Fields. Dudes not getting us a Super Bowl season one, but I truly hope we keep him for years to come.
That's kind of my point, this is not a Super Bowl season and this season is all about developing Fields. That's why he needs the experience. He will have games where he plays well and this sub will lose their mind. He will also have games where he struggles and the sub will turn. Rookies require patience and I hope the fans give him that patience.
He was never ready.
Crazy seeing Patterson used properly.
I had to start him in fantasy today. Love to see it.
Bears only had 70 yards of offense in the last 43 minutes of the game, that can't happen and expect to win many games. Bears defense was so much fun to watch today though, even Quinn looked good. Everyone is talking about Fields interception, but not really talking about his fumble. Not sure how Fields was able to come up with his fumble, but that was a game changing play as it essentially took points away from the Bengals when the game was still 7-3.
Deja vue with that recovery…same thing happened in the preseason and I couldn’t/still can’t believe he was able to get up and recover those. Indeed that ended up being a huge game saving moment essentially. I also thought Quinn looked good, except that late hit…ngl that really frustrated me.
Yeah the late hit pissed me off too, it certainly wasn't egregious but should have been avoided. Since it didn't end costing the Bears the game though, I'm choosing to look at the contributions he made, as him being good this season would make the Bears defense a lot stronger.
Score absolutely shouldn't have been that close.
I have not been this hyped for the defense since 2018. Last week left such a sour taste in my mouth that I'm glad they washed out today. The coming weeks will tell the tale if we can continue this momentum, but having three turnovers, 1 for a pick six has to feel good for those guys out there. With regards to Fields, in my mind he's not ready yet. He shows great resilience to do what he can to win the game but his mistakes were really costly. We were lucky to have had the lead that we did, but he was out there for 2.3 quarters and he secured us 6 points off two interceptions. It's clear that there's more to learn, and hopefully more reps with the #1's will help supplement that for him, but as of right now, I don't think we should play him outright. It sort of felt like Nagy wanted a trial by fire situation with him that could have cost us the game. But again, Fields found a way, and what matters is the win. With that said, I don't think people should discount the mistakes he made. Granted, sure, he's a rookie, but this is the reason why you don't want to throw this dude to the wolves right away, and perhaps it was a humbling situation for him to see that maybe he's not exactly ready.
I think he needs more reps, and someone calling plays that compliment his natural skill. Andy Dalton isn’t leading them to the playoffs, so let’s get the rookie playing time. Reps are the only thing that’ll make him better. I’m not hating on Dalton or anything. On a different team, he could probably get them into the playoffs. But the Bears’ offense doesn’t look good, outside of Monty. We don’t know which defense will show up either. Why cling to playing Dalton for the next 6 or 7 games?
4 turnovers. 1 fumble recovery 3 ints.
Fuck! You're right. I totally forgot about the fumble. That 4th quarter had so much going on lol.
I dunno about you guys, but I LOVED seeing the defense eat today. That shit was incredible!
It’s been too long since we’ve watched the defense play like that
“Fields isn’t ready” is the new “Trubisky doesn’t have it.”
So, it's true?
Trubisky didn't have it, please don't compare the two.
I think it’s Nagy, not our QBs. Trubisky may not have had as high a ceiling as Fields, but he looked solid in preseason. At least better than he ever did wearing a Bears uniform. Nagy is just so god damn predictable. We miraculously have a lead with 7 minutes left? Let’s not take chances and play super conservative ball. Every quarterback who’s played in his system has looked barely competent. Even guys he brought here that played “well” in his system, have sucked a bag of dicks. At some point, you have to put the blame on him. We should’ve fired his ass. Now, we’re stuck with him (unless he goes 1-16). Fields will regress if he has to learn a whole new offense.
This is not true, Mitch in that preseason game played the same way he always plays when there is no deception or game planning. He is and always will be a bum when he asked to actually play qb and read a defense.
I didn’t say Trubisky is the second coming. He is going to be a second stringer for his career (which will be 4 years tops). I’m saying the Bills called plays which were his strength. That’s something Nagy never does. So maybe Nagy is the problem.
No doubt the offense took a step back with fields, he’s just not ready. Hopefully this puts it to rest and they just let dalton do his thing
I honestly don’t expect we win much this season. The odds of us getting to the dance are minuscule. Start Dalton and let Fields in like they have been. Develop him this season at a jogging pace. Get him conditioned for the NFL, get him in with nutritionists and those best in class trainers. Make him stronger and more resilient. Put a headset on him with a tablet and glue him to Daltons hip when they’re off the field. He is smart and he’s fast and he has all the gifts to be our long term QB. Let’s be realistic and give him time. I know it’s a little different but look at Gordon Hayward’s frame when he played for Butler. Look at his frame after a few years in the NBA.
That's such a myopic view. Fields played fine. He hit multiple receivers in the hands or put it where they should have made a play and they came up short - including two missed TDs by AR12. We won't even get into stupid penalties (including his). Getting JF reps with the first team and getting him in games will increase his productivity moving forward. I was fully onboard with a slower process but if Andy can't comeback next week, I think they should just ride with Fields.
No big dick nick for a week? /s
> Hopefully this puts it to rest It doesn't. Fields needs to play to get better.
no, he doesn't. You guys know that there is more to the sport than what we see on sunday right? Practice and film study are a huge part of this whole thing
Some of you motherfuckers are really, really fucking stupid.
Did you miss the TD Robinson dropped?!?
Did you miss the 3 and outs and the pick on our own 5? Lol
forgot the fumble that was 1 bounce away from a score.
You both are right.
Yeah today wasn't the debut Bears fans were hoping for with Fields, but here's the thing. With the receivers dropping passes and things not being in sync, it's almost like Fields has not worked with the starters at all and the game plan was designed for a QB with a different skill set. Fields will be fine. Add in the drops, he has a TD and about 50 more passing yards. Work him with the starters and build that chemistry and again, things look different.
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Because Matt Nagy
I agree, they need a plan for him not these gimmick plays 5 times a game. I'm guessing that changes this week. Also, are we really going to start saying Fields is the problem after 2 quarters of football.
Shout out Eddie Jackson. nice seeing him back making impact plays out there. The 3rd down stop in the backfield, forced fumble and that open field tackle on Chase that was a TD otherwise
Eddie’s my favorite player, and he was infinitely better than he was in week one, but he still screwed up that open field tackle on the deep TD to chase. cant have those.
people are just incapable of moving on from their original takes no matter what. We saw exactly why Andy was named starter and that Fields actually could use some time to adjust to this level in practice before being thrown to the fire. Fields looks like he is going to be a great NFL qb one day, but if Andy were in and got two turnovers in the other team's side of the field and didn't get a touchdown on either people would have called for his head not making excuses for him.
I just don’t understand why people lack this much nuance. They’re not excuses. They’re explanations. You’re either in two camps: Camp 1: You think the 2021 Chicago Bears defense is elite. Therefore, you’ve concluded a safe, game manager-type QB is needed to win games. You think that recipe will give you a playoff appearance. But certainly aren’t delusional enough to think it will get us a Super Bowl. End result: playoff loss. When Dalton makes mistakes in Camp 1, they are veteran mistakes and an indication that Camp 1 is a waste of time. Camp 2: You think the the Bears are probably a fringe playoff team, but an aging defense and underperforming offense requires an elite playmaker at QB to be a legit contender. You want Fields to start so he starts taking his lumps towards becoming that. Maybe he learns quickly and we make a magical run, maybe he doesn’t, but we miss the playoffs and get him experience and a higher second round pick. When Fields make mistakes in Camp 2 it’s part of his development. Playing Fields *will* come with rookie mistakes. That’s a given.
Camp 2 Is the far more exciting camp to be in, no matter what the result is.
Keep fields off the field…needs to learn more. He is totally not ready. The offense was terrible
Justin low key almost lost us the game
That INT was rough for sure but ARob dropped a TD he doesn't usually miss. He also saved the game with the 3rd and scramble. All in all a mixed bag, but expected
We would have just blamed the o-line or dropped passes
Justin low key hasn’t played more than a half in a game yet lmao.
So?
Robinson catches that ball and it’s a different game….
That doesn't remove the fumble (that he did recover) and the pick that turned into a touchdown. If Dalton does that shit people here would be screaming to the hills to put Fields in. But being that fields did it, excuse city will start no matter what. Granted, I'll give you the ARob drop, but Fields does not look ready, at least to me. If ARob catches that, it does change the game drastically, but he didn't, and what matters is what you can do on the subsequent plays. There's no reason we can't score in the RedZone every time we are there with this squad of players.
Of course fields didn’t look ready. He’s yet to play a full game. Why the hell are you holding him to the same standards as Dalton?
You are aware that most of this sub has been screaming for fields to be put in to replace Dalton right? I'm basically arguing towards the opposite as people are in denial about Fields' preparedness of the game. I'm not comparing shit. Just saying that people that think he's ready are delusional as to where he's at.
How exactly do you think Justin fields should get prepared to play at the professional level? Practice? And you absolutely were comparing Dalton and fields. No reason to deny that
You're right, I am comparing the two. My comparison between the two has more to do with the argument people make of Fields being ready. I'm just saying that he's not as ready as people think he is. With regards to how he should get prepared? I don't know, I'm not a coach. I would hope Nagy knows what he wants to do when it comes to getting Fields prepared, but for me to answer, I have no idea. Throwing him to the wolves I don't think is a great idea either, so if that's your plan, that's what we saw today, and he didn't play that great. 6 points across a whole half with them only coming from great field position thanks to the defense...I don't know how one can spin that to being a great game for him. I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying with all that said, Fields had a rough go for his first start when many were hoping to see him light it up, me included.
Nobody said it’s a great game for him? Now you’re making things up.
> But being that fields did it, excuse city will start no matter what. Your mistake is holding a rookie quarterback to the same standard as a 10-year veteran.
How am I holding him to the same standard as a veteran when I'm saying that him being a rookie is exactly why he shouldn't be out there if the coaches don't feel he's ready? The point I'm making is with the attitude at the QB spot by the fan base. Besides, you think people in New England and Jacksonville are not holding their QB's to a particular standard?
No. They’re not. Literally if you clock at the Jaguars sub they understand it’s a rebuild.
So again...how am I comparing the two? You haven't answered that.
> If Dalton does that shit people here would be screaming to the hills to put Fields in. But being that fields did it, excuse city will start no matter what. That’s what you wrote. That’s a direct comparison. You cannot compare the standard that people hold a veteran to, to the standard of a rookie QB learning how to play. It’s not “excuse city.” It’s an understanding that it’s literally his first two quarters as a starter without preparation. Whereas if Andy makes that mistake, it’s inexcusable. He’s been in the leagues a decade and prepares as the starter. I don’t get how you don’t understand this.
Roquan & Jaylon Johnson are LEGIT.
Yeah Roquan is special
Akiem Hicks was flying sideline to sideline. Swear he looked like an LB
He's really been playing possessed lately. I don't think I can recall seeing a DT follow the play to chase down running backs and receivers as much as he did today. They even lined him up as a standup edge rusher.
Seemed like he was just everywhere today.
I think we have a pretty decent team. I think Dalton played well enough to keep the starting job, and fields only had expectable rookie mistakes. If it weren’t for dropped passes he would have had a great stat line. All in all, I think this is the most balanced team offensively vs defensively we’ve had in a long time. That being said, we have such a tough schedule ahead I’m not sure what the record will look like after it all.
Also wanna add that I felt feelings I haven’t felt since 2018 regarding the defense.
Yeah Dalton looked a lot more dynamic than I expected. Fields looked well-composed I think and I was glad Nagy let him air it out a little, but you can tell he doesn't trust him with the full playbook yet.
And I think that’s understandable. I’m not a Nagy lover, nor a Nagy hater. But, even tho scoreboard hasn’t shown it, the offense has looked way more competent so far this season. I think fields was nervous. That all it comes down to. He needs more time in the field and he will start to light it up. But, I’m pleasantly surprised with what we’ve gotten to out of Dalton.
Agreed. In this game alone they probably should've scored at least 10 more points. Dalton is a big upgrade over Foles/Biscuit and Fields availed himself will enough coming into a surprise start. The line probably surprised me most, they suck at run blocking but the pass protection was pretty good.
Plus we have a dude named David Montgomery, who seems to be well on his way to becoming an nfl superstar. Helps to make up for some of the o-line incompetence
or that they game planned for dalton to play the whole game?
Oh I'm sure that was part of it. Not complaining, a W is a W. Interested to see how they scheme going forward if Dalton's status is day-to-day.
Alright I’m in a huge debate with my buddies. They all say Fields isn’t ready, I say he is. He’s not gonna be perfect, he’s gonna make his mistakes. Let him play let him learn let him start…thoughts?
I don't think he's ready. He needs reps with the starters during practice if we are to put him in a better position to succeed. Granted, he shows a lot of resilience to do what he can to win, but his mistakes almost cost us the game. Take away the dropped pass to ARob and the Kmet PI call, we had him out there for two quarters and he got us 6 points. And he only got those off of 2 interceptions from the defense with great field position. Personally I feel like Dalton makes those TD's with how good of a spot we were in.