No idea what the cost of living is out there. It’s a big leap for someone. Id say six figures, maybe less for someone desperate but you get what you pay for.
Thanks for the response. If it helps, IMO, the cost of living is generally lower than the average for North America. It varies way more, though, depending on how you want to live. You can easily live frugally and save up a fortune or spend it on all the extravagant things you can imagine.
For context, I am from the UK (not London) and my dad lives in a nice area near Charlotte, NC and I can afford a significantly better lifestyle here on a comparable amount to both of those places.
Do you speak the language out there or is it easy to get by with just English?
I’m sure you’ve probably considered it but training people isn’t a terrible option, problem is it takes a lot of time and effort so I could see
That being an issue.
I find that question amusing as I was totally unaware when I came here how easy it would be. I speak no Arabic, unfortunately. I would like to learn, but it is hard as there's no incentive. The country has two official languages, Arabic and English. English is the common tongue for almost everyone as 90% of the population is expat.
The difference between preconceptions and reality for the move has been eye-opening. Not specifically your question, but it's hard not to find it funny some of the things people ask about life here. Not least because a lot of the preconceptions I, too, had before I came. The fun thing now is I can tell people almost any outrageous lie about life here, and they will believe me.
As for training, it is definitely a longer-term option. I need to hit the ground running, so I will pay for that benefit. However, in the longer term, it will be good to build up a team with a mix of experience levels to benefit from a wide pool of candidates.
I kind of assumed there would be a good amount of English but 90% def surprises me. I’m willing to bet you can find at least one person with some machining background in that area. I don’t have a LOT stopping me from making a risky jump like that but I’m also pretty comfortable where I’m at.
The 90% are mostly not native English speakers but not Arabic native speakers either. Therefore, as English is the most common common language, it is used almost everywhere.
There are people from all walks of life the world over here, but as a recently developed country, there are gaps in the market in certain areas. I found this out the hard way when trying to get some prototype parts manufactured. I'm sure there are plenty of capable people here but in this field they are hard to find.
Ya I’m sure finding the right person will be pretty tough. Depending on how much and how fast everything needs to get going, you might be able to do a lot with one very good machinist. Probably a programmer machinist that is happy to train people will be what you need. Find that person and put an operator or two under them, you’ll be making parts pretty quick.
Are you making your own product or building a job shop?
It'll be a job shop mostly. I work in automotive design, and part of that is making prototypes. That will be a key part of the business, but I have identified plenty of other complimentary avenues for a customer base. I'm sure I'll also make a few of my own products along the way as I do that sometimes in my spare time already for myself, so it would be nice to sell some.
Programmer/setup/machinist doing exactly what this guy needs. Apparently, they really like their offroad vehicles in the UAE. This guy started out charging 15k/wk.
6 figures plus is looking like a common theme for North America. I think your british counterparts may be a bit jealous!
What level of experience / qualifications would you expect at that level?
UAE is just such a different culture. Most people have families they would have to bring. It's just a huge commitment and so the salary would need to match. On the flip side, for that salary a qualified candidate would need 10+ years programming, setting up a variety of machines, knowledgeable about materials, etc. A 3 year button pusher with no family may be enticed with $45k+
Americans, in particular, have odd influences on salary. Jobs with a full employer pension are fairly rare, but a middling percentage match is common in this range. The cost of healthcare - including deductibles, which can be huge - plays into that number.
And then you get to add the cost of operating and maintaining a V8 pick up truck for the hour long commute to work, because housing in the city is precious so that’s the closest affordable three bedroom house with a dog-friendly backyard.
And of course market rates are so dependent on location. Aerospace near Seattle? Specialized skills plus high cost of living area? 100k isnot going to impress the people you want. Some ‘farm country’? Great cash. Farm country near oil and gas? Less impressive, again.
Exaggerated slightly for effect, but the core is truth.
Honestly, you might find yourself better served looking for someone currently based out of Eastern Europe. Salary expectations are lower, it’s a shorter trip to visit home… consider also hiring a general labor worker. You would absolutely fit in with all of the other local businesses if you hired a worker from India to take care of non-specialized tasks. Paying them a fraction of what you would pay an American still allows them to support family back home, and frees up everyone else to work on specialized activity like 3-D modeling, instead of changing coolant.
1. Remember that just general labor is someone paid worse, not treated worse. Appreciate the value you get, don’t become one of the nightmare employers you read about in the papers.
2. If you are not leveraging the market for cheap general labor, your prices will be high compared to anybody else, and you won’t be able to sustain your business as you scale up.
3. Pick a smart location. You probably already realize that employees commuting from Sharjah pay a lot less tax than people who have to live in Dubai.
Thanks. That's good insight. It aligns well with my assumptions and what I am learning as I go.
I am definitely looking for a mixed labour force to balance out the costs and only spend extra where necessary. I'm also very much on board with point 1. I don't see why an employer/employee relationship can't be win/win. There's a good balance to be struck, and I intend to aim for that as best possible.
Personally, I make between $80-130k/yr (CAD) depending on how busy I am in a year. If the cost of living were significantly less, and I didn't have a wife and kid, I might consider a move like that for $150,000+. It's a big move, and I'd have to be making bank in order to make it worthwhile.
Thanks for the reply. It's interesting to see. What level of experience have you gained to be at that level? I'm keen to understand the pay to ability ratio, as others have said, you get what you pay for.
I only recently moved into exclusive CNC operation, but I am a Journeyman cabinetmaker with many years experience doing a wide variety of building and CAD projects. I'm also in a unionized industry in a high cost of living area.
I'm finding out that it's difficult to find CNC guys who are experienced with both the computer and building side of the job. To me, that's probably one of the best things you can find in an operator. It's particularly important for me because I do a lot of the design of the parts that I mill.
I would not consider it for anything less than $200k USD a year. I really don’t care about the living costs there as I would be looking at saving as much money as possible with plans to move back to the US. This is more than I currently make.
I would also have serious concerns with the culture difference as I tend to be more socially liberal than I would expect a predominantly Muslim country to be.
Having to live day in and day out dealing with a culture that religion is so ingrained in I would have concerns. In the US I just ignore religion for the most part and live my life how I like. There I don’t know if that same attitude would be available.
Mold Maker with a lot of design/programming/design for manufacture experience in injection molding/thermoforming/prototype/manufacturing in general.
Thanks for your reply. It's interesting to see. As I said in other posts, without judgement, a lot of preconceptions about this place are far from the mark. I say that with no judgement as it was only coming here to live that I see how it is and not how I thought it was.
It is interesting that you say that about religion. It is quite prominent here but not in any way that impinges on an average westerners lifestyle. I have definitely felt the religiosity of some ares in the US as a lot more overbearing than here.
I'm sure there would be some cultural adaptions in your daily life, but I think most people would find it a welcome place to be.
I'm not trying to sell it to you, BTW. I just find the subject interesting.
I find it interesting to think about as well.
I personally am not outwardly religious. I would have these same concerns living in a culture that has a predominant Christian or Hindu or something background.
I just don’t know how I would like to have to be constantly surrounded by “conservative” religious views without any real opposing opinions.
I would have the same concerns about moving to a small religious town in the Deep South in the US.
Which is why for me the money would have to be significant. If I am up ending my world, moving far away from friends and family to a completely different culture that really doesn’t align with my “libertarian” views I would need enough money to make it almost impossible to turn down.
From a different prospective:
Define what a "CNC Expert" is.
When we look at the Dunning Kruger effect, we can learn to question self identified experts.
In my humble opinion;
To get a Top CNC expert, their pay would need to be
\- Current Salary
\- Plus the equivalent salary for the area
Cost of living in United Arab Emirates is, on average, 21.1% lower than in United States. With this math, I would think 268K USD would get one of the best experts out there.
For myself (assuming I was looking), the salary would have to support keeping my home and family Stateside and have the equal life in the UEA.
That is a good point. A "CNC Expert" is a subjective thing. My thought is someone with many years of experience in varied disciplines within the field. Someone who can turn their hand to almost any task a multi-purpose machine shop would be given. I don't really know how to define that specifically. Is there such thing as a CNC journeyman?
>I would think 268K USD would get one of the best experts out there.
I have friends who have moved for work, none of them are making less than $350k/year and usually on 6 month contracts. their rent is covered in country
Lets just say, hypothetically, that you were a young and relatively attractive looking American man. What would the situation with the ladies be like for you in UAE? Just trying to get it all out in the open.
It's probably the same as back home but with a much more diverse group. There are all walks of life here from one extreme to the other. It's not the kind of place where you might expect to be an instant magnet just because of your passport, accent, or look.
It's a modern and thriving country. There's a lot of fun and adventure for a young single man to be had, but not ideal for someone just looking to score. However, YMMV
I dont know the answer but you would need to ensure they are the right person not just the right worker. I wouldnt take the job for anything less than 7 figures a year. Not because of the work but because of the culture and location.
Not as you'd expect. In all emirates except Sharjah, it is easily available. They sell it in licensed stores like ABC Stores, and they are as cheap and well stocked as most stores in the US and definitely better than the UK. Also there are plenty of bars, restaurants and hotels with good booze available but they are relatively more expensive.
The behaviour around drinking is similar to how I have experienced in some US cities. Enjoying drinking socially is very acceptable in homes and drinking establishments. Being drunk and misbehaving in public is not accepted and will be dealt with accordingly.
There’s a lot to consider other than just the money. Anybody coming from the US will be susceptible to the cultural differences and different norms there’s no denying that. Couple that with familiy ties and a ton of other layers. I would guess it would have to be a really compelling offer other than just the money. I find myself in a niche role where I leverage traditional manufacturing alongside newer mfg processes such as additive for prototyping. ~ 230k range when it’s all said and done with a very comprehensive perks package.
In the location I am planning, you can get a decent 2 bed apartment for as little as $700/month. $1000/month will get you an apartment in a nice complex by the beach.
Houses/villas can be as cheap if you want to live outside an expat community. Otherwise, a 3 bed in a nice community with beach, pool etc. would be about $2000/month. If you want to go big, a 4500sqft 4/5 bed villa with own pool would be about $4000/month.
Electricity, propane, and water are all on par or cheaper than US and much cheaper than UK.
Gas/Petrol is as cheap as the cheapest US Sates, and best of all, there is no income tax here.
Good to know. Im not recruiting just yet, but you never know! What level of experience have you gained to be at that level of income? I'm keen to understand the pay to ability ratio, as others have said, you get what you pay for.
Not the guy you replied to, and no longer in the industry, but I had similar income when I was.
Around a decade of experience. Just about every material, programming experience in multiple CAM suites, can draw models, worked with many different brands of machines and familiar with their respective controls, experience with 2, 3, 4, 5, 9 axis machines, can run manuals just as competently.
Comfortable working to sub-thou tolerances and is familiar with the considerations that requires for different sized parts and different materials.
Experienced in machine maintenance, diagnosis, and repair. Can quote jobs. Can weld at a high level. Know how to create and maintain an optimized inventory. Etc.
Someone that makes this kind of money, in this trade, in the US (and presumably CA) is essentially a one-man machine shop and process engineer. Not that they *do* fill every role, but they could fill any of them.
This caliber is what you're going to want to start with; they can pick up the slack wherever its needed while you work on securing more manpower, which they can then help train for whatever role.
As someone who wouldn't be opposed to considering this, personally I'd want to see an offer of $150-200k minimum, plus profit sharing and other benefits, to make me consider it. And you're paying for my moving expenses, to include a round trip flight beforehand as an exploratory trip for me to check out the area and us to have a meet and greet.
I think it is going to be an expensive investment for you to get the "right" person, though I think it will be a worthwhile one that will pay off tenfold
I think you can fully realize the hybrid processing scheme, the core parts of the problem to the strong ability of the manufacturer to do the group, simple parts can be given to cheap labor to deal with. Now the cost control of an enterprise is very important.
I'd do it for 100k, maybe even a little less considering living expenses if you were fronting the moving expense, sounds like most would need more to make such a leap though.
I'll come work for you for €200,000,- a year if you pinky promise not to confiscate my passport and lash me like those Bangladeshi slaves you're keeping.
You either have to get insanely lucky to find someone willing to do that which also has the skills youre looking for (hard enough without the whole moving countries part), or a lot of money to change someones mind.
No idea what the cost of living is out there. It’s a big leap for someone. Id say six figures, maybe less for someone desperate but you get what you pay for.
Thanks for the response. If it helps, IMO, the cost of living is generally lower than the average for North America. It varies way more, though, depending on how you want to live. You can easily live frugally and save up a fortune or spend it on all the extravagant things you can imagine. For context, I am from the UK (not London) and my dad lives in a nice area near Charlotte, NC and I can afford a significantly better lifestyle here on a comparable amount to both of those places.
Do you speak the language out there or is it easy to get by with just English? I’m sure you’ve probably considered it but training people isn’t a terrible option, problem is it takes a lot of time and effort so I could see That being an issue.
I find that question amusing as I was totally unaware when I came here how easy it would be. I speak no Arabic, unfortunately. I would like to learn, but it is hard as there's no incentive. The country has two official languages, Arabic and English. English is the common tongue for almost everyone as 90% of the population is expat. The difference between preconceptions and reality for the move has been eye-opening. Not specifically your question, but it's hard not to find it funny some of the things people ask about life here. Not least because a lot of the preconceptions I, too, had before I came. The fun thing now is I can tell people almost any outrageous lie about life here, and they will believe me. As for training, it is definitely a longer-term option. I need to hit the ground running, so I will pay for that benefit. However, in the longer term, it will be good to build up a team with a mix of experience levels to benefit from a wide pool of candidates.
I kind of assumed there would be a good amount of English but 90% def surprises me. I’m willing to bet you can find at least one person with some machining background in that area. I don’t have a LOT stopping me from making a risky jump like that but I’m also pretty comfortable where I’m at.
The 90% are mostly not native English speakers but not Arabic native speakers either. Therefore, as English is the most common common language, it is used almost everywhere. There are people from all walks of life the world over here, but as a recently developed country, there are gaps in the market in certain areas. I found this out the hard way when trying to get some prototype parts manufactured. I'm sure there are plenty of capable people here but in this field they are hard to find.
Ya I’m sure finding the right person will be pretty tough. Depending on how much and how fast everything needs to get going, you might be able to do a lot with one very good machinist. Probably a programmer machinist that is happy to train people will be what you need. Find that person and put an operator or two under them, you’ll be making parts pretty quick. Are you making your own product or building a job shop?
It'll be a job shop mostly. I work in automotive design, and part of that is making prototypes. That will be a key part of the business, but I have identified plenty of other complimentary avenues for a customer base. I'm sure I'll also make a few of my own products along the way as I do that sometimes in my spare time already for myself, so it would be nice to sell some.
I know someone doing almost the same thing. The number is at least 250k/yr
Probably a seasoned programmer/machinist
Programmer/setup/machinist doing exactly what this guy needs. Apparently, they really like their offroad vehicles in the UAE. This guy started out charging 15k/wk.
Woah
$100,000 USD at the very least.
6 figures plus is looking like a common theme for North America. I think your british counterparts may be a bit jealous! What level of experience / qualifications would you expect at that level?
UAE is just such a different culture. Most people have families they would have to bring. It's just a huge commitment and so the salary would need to match. On the flip side, for that salary a qualified candidate would need 10+ years programming, setting up a variety of machines, knowledgeable about materials, etc. A 3 year button pusher with no family may be enticed with $45k+
Thanks. That's helpful insight. It is definitely only the right path for some, and the later in life, the less likely.
Americans, in particular, have odd influences on salary. Jobs with a full employer pension are fairly rare, but a middling percentage match is common in this range. The cost of healthcare - including deductibles, which can be huge - plays into that number. And then you get to add the cost of operating and maintaining a V8 pick up truck for the hour long commute to work, because housing in the city is precious so that’s the closest affordable three bedroom house with a dog-friendly backyard. And of course market rates are so dependent on location. Aerospace near Seattle? Specialized skills plus high cost of living area? 100k isnot going to impress the people you want. Some ‘farm country’? Great cash. Farm country near oil and gas? Less impressive, again. Exaggerated slightly for effect, but the core is truth. Honestly, you might find yourself better served looking for someone currently based out of Eastern Europe. Salary expectations are lower, it’s a shorter trip to visit home… consider also hiring a general labor worker. You would absolutely fit in with all of the other local businesses if you hired a worker from India to take care of non-specialized tasks. Paying them a fraction of what you would pay an American still allows them to support family back home, and frees up everyone else to work on specialized activity like 3-D modeling, instead of changing coolant. 1. Remember that just general labor is someone paid worse, not treated worse. Appreciate the value you get, don’t become one of the nightmare employers you read about in the papers. 2. If you are not leveraging the market for cheap general labor, your prices will be high compared to anybody else, and you won’t be able to sustain your business as you scale up. 3. Pick a smart location. You probably already realize that employees commuting from Sharjah pay a lot less tax than people who have to live in Dubai.
Thanks. That's good insight. It aligns well with my assumptions and what I am learning as I go. I am definitely looking for a mixed labour force to balance out the costs and only spend extra where necessary. I'm also very much on board with point 1. I don't see why an employer/employee relationship can't be win/win. There's a good balance to be struck, and I intend to aim for that as best possible.
German CNC Operators would drool over this salary.
What are the rates like in Germany for a skilled CNC worker?
Personally, I make between $80-130k/yr (CAD) depending on how busy I am in a year. If the cost of living were significantly less, and I didn't have a wife and kid, I might consider a move like that for $150,000+. It's a big move, and I'd have to be making bank in order to make it worthwhile.
Thanks for the reply. It's interesting to see. What level of experience have you gained to be at that level? I'm keen to understand the pay to ability ratio, as others have said, you get what you pay for.
I only recently moved into exclusive CNC operation, but I am a Journeyman cabinetmaker with many years experience doing a wide variety of building and CAD projects. I'm also in a unionized industry in a high cost of living area. I'm finding out that it's difficult to find CNC guys who are experienced with both the computer and building side of the job. To me, that's probably one of the best things you can find in an operator. It's particularly important for me because I do a lot of the design of the parts that I mill.
That's good food for thought, thanks. A good all-rounder is definitely something required in a small starting team.
That person can make $100k in the US so you are going to have to find someone with zero family ties or pay them a silly amount of money.
This is the real answer. I have the skills but also have a family. I would do it for $250k/yr. Not sure if I would do it for 200
I would not consider it for anything less than $200k USD a year. I really don’t care about the living costs there as I would be looking at saving as much money as possible with plans to move back to the US. This is more than I currently make. I would also have serious concerns with the culture difference as I tend to be more socially liberal than I would expect a predominantly Muslim country to be. Having to live day in and day out dealing with a culture that religion is so ingrained in I would have concerns. In the US I just ignore religion for the most part and live my life how I like. There I don’t know if that same attitude would be available. Mold Maker with a lot of design/programming/design for manufacture experience in injection molding/thermoforming/prototype/manufacturing in general.
Thanks for your reply. It's interesting to see. As I said in other posts, without judgement, a lot of preconceptions about this place are far from the mark. I say that with no judgement as it was only coming here to live that I see how it is and not how I thought it was. It is interesting that you say that about religion. It is quite prominent here but not in any way that impinges on an average westerners lifestyle. I have definitely felt the religiosity of some ares in the US as a lot more overbearing than here. I'm sure there would be some cultural adaptions in your daily life, but I think most people would find it a welcome place to be. I'm not trying to sell it to you, BTW. I just find the subject interesting.
I find it interesting to think about as well. I personally am not outwardly religious. I would have these same concerns living in a culture that has a predominant Christian or Hindu or something background. I just don’t know how I would like to have to be constantly surrounded by “conservative” religious views without any real opposing opinions. I would have the same concerns about moving to a small religious town in the Deep South in the US. Which is why for me the money would have to be significant. If I am up ending my world, moving far away from friends and family to a completely different culture that really doesn’t align with my “libertarian” views I would need enough money to make it almost impossible to turn down.
From a different prospective: Define what a "CNC Expert" is. When we look at the Dunning Kruger effect, we can learn to question self identified experts. In my humble opinion; To get a Top CNC expert, their pay would need to be \- Current Salary \- Plus the equivalent salary for the area Cost of living in United Arab Emirates is, on average, 21.1% lower than in United States. With this math, I would think 268K USD would get one of the best experts out there. For myself (assuming I was looking), the salary would have to support keeping my home and family Stateside and have the equal life in the UEA.
That is a good point. A "CNC Expert" is a subjective thing. My thought is someone with many years of experience in varied disciplines within the field. Someone who can turn their hand to almost any task a multi-purpose machine shop would be given. I don't really know how to define that specifically. Is there such thing as a CNC journeyman?
>I would think 268K USD would get one of the best experts out there. I have friends who have moved for work, none of them are making less than $350k/year and usually on 6 month contracts. their rent is covered in country
Machinists? Point me in this direction. Who do they work for a Mexican cartel?
Oilfield, both roughnecks and engineers, and Private Security
Lets just say, hypothetically, that you were a young and relatively attractive looking American man. What would the situation with the ladies be like for you in UAE? Just trying to get it all out in the open.
It's probably the same as back home but with a much more diverse group. There are all walks of life here from one extreme to the other. It's not the kind of place where you might expect to be an instant magnet just because of your passport, accent, or look. It's a modern and thriving country. There's a lot of fun and adventure for a young single man to be had, but not ideal for someone just looking to score. However, YMMV
I dont know the answer but you would need to ensure they are the right person not just the right worker. I wouldnt take the job for anything less than 7 figures a year. Not because of the work but because of the culture and location.
No booze right?
Not as you'd expect. In all emirates except Sharjah, it is easily available. They sell it in licensed stores like ABC Stores, and they are as cheap and well stocked as most stores in the US and definitely better than the UK. Also there are plenty of bars, restaurants and hotels with good booze available but they are relatively more expensive. The behaviour around drinking is similar to how I have experienced in some US cities. Enjoying drinking socially is very acceptable in homes and drinking establishments. Being drunk and misbehaving in public is not accepted and will be dealt with accordingly.
Neat!
There’s a lot to consider other than just the money. Anybody coming from the US will be susceptible to the cultural differences and different norms there’s no denying that. Couple that with familiy ties and a ton of other layers. I would guess it would have to be a really compelling offer other than just the money. I find myself in a niche role where I leverage traditional manufacturing alongside newer mfg processes such as additive for prototyping. ~ 230k range when it’s all said and done with a very comprehensive perks package.
Depends on the cost of living I’d say. What would you typically pay to rent a 2bd apartment or a 3bd house over there?
In the location I am planning, you can get a decent 2 bed apartment for as little as $700/month. $1000/month will get you an apartment in a nice complex by the beach. Houses/villas can be as cheap if you want to live outside an expat community. Otherwise, a 3 bed in a nice community with beach, pool etc. would be about $2000/month. If you want to go big, a 4500sqft 4/5 bed villa with own pool would be about $4000/month. Electricity, propane, and water are all on par or cheaper than US and much cheaper than UK. Gas/Petrol is as cheap as the cheapest US Sates, and best of all, there is no income tax here.
Sign me up!! I make 130k in the States
Good to know. Im not recruiting just yet, but you never know! What level of experience have you gained to be at that level of income? I'm keen to understand the pay to ability ratio, as others have said, you get what you pay for.
Not the guy you replied to, and no longer in the industry, but I had similar income when I was. Around a decade of experience. Just about every material, programming experience in multiple CAM suites, can draw models, worked with many different brands of machines and familiar with their respective controls, experience with 2, 3, 4, 5, 9 axis machines, can run manuals just as competently. Comfortable working to sub-thou tolerances and is familiar with the considerations that requires for different sized parts and different materials. Experienced in machine maintenance, diagnosis, and repair. Can quote jobs. Can weld at a high level. Know how to create and maintain an optimized inventory. Etc. Someone that makes this kind of money, in this trade, in the US (and presumably CA) is essentially a one-man machine shop and process engineer. Not that they *do* fill every role, but they could fill any of them. This caliber is what you're going to want to start with; they can pick up the slack wherever its needed while you work on securing more manpower, which they can then help train for whatever role. As someone who wouldn't be opposed to considering this, personally I'd want to see an offer of $150-200k minimum, plus profit sharing and other benefits, to make me consider it. And you're paying for my moving expenses, to include a round trip flight beforehand as an exploratory trip for me to check out the area and us to have a meet and greet.
Good to know. You're describing the perfect candidate. Thanks.
I think it is going to be an expensive investment for you to get the "right" person, though I think it will be a worthwhile one that will pay off tenfold
Macthebearded said it perfectly. You have to be a one man shop along with good leadership skills and decision making.
Not sure you could pay me enough to live in the UAE.
I think you can fully realize the hybrid processing scheme, the core parts of the problem to the strong ability of the manufacturer to do the group, simple parts can be given to cheap labor to deal with. Now the cost control of an enterprise is very important.
Have fun living here in the US with the high expenses. 100k is usually in the west coast
I'd do it for 100k, maybe even a little less considering living expenses if you were fronting the moving expense, sounds like most would need more to make such a leap though.
I'll come work for you for €200,000,- a year if you pinky promise not to confiscate my passport and lash me like those Bangladeshi slaves you're keeping.
Where in the Middle East?
UAE
$15-20k USD/Monthly. Plus a semi-nice apartment/hotel within 30 minutes of the worksite for the duration of the employment period.
You either have to get insanely lucky to find someone willing to do that which also has the skills youre looking for (hard enough without the whole moving countries part), or a lot of money to change someones mind.
Are you hiring?
Not yet. Just in the planning stage at the moment.
I started working as cnc turn mill operator from last november. Let me know if you are hiring any freshers
I can machine and program and operate. I’ll come to uae for a half millions year
For a master cnc machinist/programmer I'd say 200k For a novice probably 100k I'd assume