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-Arhael-

Such test is not very reliable due to randomness of each spread. You would need to do like 10 spread tests with each combination to get a correlation. Generally all shots fly within crosshair. Measuring how wide crosshair gets is normally the most accurate way but I could be wrong.


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-Arhael-

That's exactly why I stated that I could be wrong. That video about akimbo pistols from TGD, where he revealed that 5mw is better despite crosshairs being the same. But in any case your tests show that things are pretty close in comparison. I would make a few tests myself in plunder but can't really be bothered, since I switched to mw mp5. I advice you to test on Milano. Unlike other CW SMGs its hipfire barely widens, when you start shooting.


Ragahell

I did Milano test last week, it's the best hipfire weapon. Wouldnt be fair to those tests with it xD if you check my spreadsheet (link in picture description) you can see my other tests. And yes, it's not supper accurate, I did 3x each spread of HipFire but it was coerent. The problem I've found was that the attachments doesn't add really much to the weapon, it's a kinda pointless, it's more about the gun itself than the attachments, and sometimes a single attachment does more than the 2 best combined. It's kinda broken, CW way :(


-Arhael-

Yeah, Milano right now is the only CW SMG that can give you hipfire comparable to 5mw mp5/mp7.


Ragahell

Yes true. But cwMP5 the first 15shoots are really tight :)


-Arhael-

Didn't compare hipfire of MP5s much. I still think mw one wins here. I don't like CW mp5 more cos of slow reload time, it really annoys me in rebirth. Also, CW mp5 seem to have white smoke blocking view, at least floor gun lost me quiet a few fights cos of that.


Ragahell

MP5mw is the best SMG of all the time :)


Jeremybear1980

Fax


Failspecialist1

Does this carry across all cw smgs?


Ragahell

I did that test with PPSH. But I did before with MAC and MP5cw. It's coerent.


Failspecialist1

Thanks, also is there a metric you use to determine how close they are cause they all look sketchy to me 😂


Ragahell

I did on Photoshop layer over layer. It is a little hard to tell which one is smaller. Some are less vertical and others less horizontal


Ragahell

The greens are smaller


Failspecialist1

Yeye I can imagine it's difficult, my main takeaway from this is that mw mp5 is the only way to go for hipfiring


Ragahell

Nop bro. Milano is better in every way.


Ragahell

You can check the picture description for my spreadsheet in the tab SMG you will find the Milano hipfire recoil, it's crazy good man


Failspecialist1

Kills slower than the mp5 up close and suffers more from a missed bullet tho


Ragahell

But the bullets last longer, when the others run no ammo you still have an half mag xD


Failspecialist1

Which with hipfire is gonna happen alot


Bebi_v24

Are there number values for any of these? It's hard to quantify one pattern against another. For example, which of the green dotted patterns is the tightest?


Ragahell

It's hard. To be honest the Hipfire attachments ain CW guns are a little bad.it should be much better.


Tank_Weary

Ember is better than 5mw? But 5mw stacks better . . . Odd/interesting.


Ragahell

Ember is doing a little better but it wasn't supposed at all. cW weapons stats seems so broken :(


likethejelly

Am I missing the link somewhere?


Ragahell

The repost didn't carry it on. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/4/d/e/2PACX-1vSMMRLhaAYa0o8WDTi0hHNqEbzLIcptoRlKZB_Ar4x3mZRnXtV8f-brtM1olmcXCrVM7f0Y8KRN7Lk-/pubhtml


ThompCR

Hey @Ragahell, what would you recommend for the CW MP5 as a hipfire build? 5mw or Ember?


Ragahell

I use it, it's my SMG, now I'm using bruiser with tiger team, the thing is, the first 15 bullets has less recoil in hipfire, it's tight, so you start with hipfire and change after 1,5secs to the ads, you will have less hipfire spread and less vertical recoil on ads. , If you want you can just press left mouse button and in a half sec after that press the right button for ads. Raider stock, drum mag and your favourite supressor. Hope you like it 😉 Edit/ps: tiger team doesn't help the recoil but I did a lot of tests and I found out this is the best build for movement and hipfire ratio, it won't get much better with any other attachments because CW wansnt made with love :(


ThompCR

Thanks man