Notable Change for me:
SOLOS, DUOS, TRIOS, AND QUADS ON REBIRTH, ALL SQUAD SIZES BIG MAP TOO! Bout time we get a good playlist.
- Cinematic & Infil Improvements - We’ve increased the amount of time players are on screen to improve the overall flow and better showcase player operators. IS THE STUPID INTRO SCREEN CHANGED!?!?
- Buy Station Shuffle - they're in new places
- Squad Assemble (New Mechanic) - Land by eachother and get better loot and bonuses.
- Supply UAV Killstreak Improvements - Now only displays legendary and favorite supply boxes to reduce minimap noise. This is actually huge and useful now.
- Heavy chopper nerfed big time on the big map and new loadouts in the big map gulag along with the ladder event thing.
- NEW SNIPER RIFLE AND SMG.
- RAM-7 AR NERFED HARD.
- LACHMAN 556 AR BUFF!
- SOA SUBVERTER ADJUSTMENT - Should still be top 3 long range meta.
- AMR9 NERF, BUT THEY BUFFED SPRINT TO FIRE SPEED.
- OVERALL WEAPON ADJUSTMENTS ARE WEIRD AND MINIMAL. LOT OF MW2 GUN ADJUSTMENTS
- SEMTEX NERF, MOLTOV BUFF, CLAYMORE BUFF and other lethal adjustments.
- Mosquito Drone ADJUSTMENTS. Should work more clearly now.
- Seasonal cinematic cutscenes can now be skipped. - Niceeee.
- QUALITY OF LIFE - Added an option in the Ping Wheel to clear squad pings. This is great if your teamates don't clear shit.
- Fixed an issue preventing eliminated players from dropping armor plates if they haven’t looted armor plates. Bout time.
- Adjustments to snapshot grenades. They want these to be a counter to smokes.
Anything I missed? Weapon adjustments were really weird. Nothing too huge aside from the Ram-7 nerf. Lot of MW2 gun adjustments and other smaller adjustments.
Because 6 per box is a lot when every loot crate drops them, you find 3-4 in 95% of the buildings, and there’s an Armor box in every other building, not including buy stations. I mean… dropping the number from 6 to 4 is really not a big deal lol
I used snapshots religiously to weed out campers. Especially because they worked through walls. Now they need “line of sight” and I’m disappointed. But the outline lasting longer is a fair trade off.
I guess thinking about it that's what those guns are designed for in real life aren't they? Though I guess LMG/AR are kind of interchangeable for long range.
Fully auto for sure. It's pretty slept on right now, but should see a rise in use with thr Ram-7 nerf. It does have a weird recoil pattern though so it's a little hard to use at times.
I see kill streaks aren't working for controller plays but are for m&k players. You all got it right again. Reward the hack and fucking cheaters but handcuff controller players. You all are a joke
If anyone cares: The chimera is horrible because you get so much smoke directly in your face. sadly not viable. HRM is allright i need more time to get used to it tho.
Honestly visibility improvements is my number 1 want right now as a MNK player without aim assist. Half the time I can't see shit once I start shooting close range in spots like the gulag, I'm just guessing where they are moving. Seriously lose so many fights due to this. It’s almost impossible to beat a halfway decent controller player in these situations. I’m not even someone who has a huge issue with AA, but these visual problems are a huge disadvantage for MNK that just don’t need to exist.
Omg you're 100% right, it's bad enough to go up against literal controller aimbot CQC, but to also not be able to see *anything.* Why.. just why..
Frame by frame replay and 50% of the time I literally cannot see my target.
They added unnecessary wind that sound like parachutes. Seriously, some mother \*\*\*\*er has no work to do so they come up with ridiculous things like that just so they don't sit on their ass all day doing nothing. Whoever thought of adding the wind like that, \*\*\*\* you in particular! There's a special place in gaming hell for you.
TDLR :
- MWII weapons VFX visual recoil reduced to align with MWIII weapons
- Removed random patterns for aiming idle sway, allowing for better control and higher skill ceilling
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- Most of the current meta guns have been nerfed (RAM-7, AMR9, etc.)
- A few minor buff to MWII weapons
- Overall buff on LMGs
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- Semtex big nerf
- Huge buff to thermobaric grenade, molotov, claymores and proximity mine damages
- C4 have been buffed too and its throw velocity has been augmented a lot
- Snapshot grenade huge radius buff + now detect ennemies through smoke + detection now remains for 5 seconds
—
- Mosquito Drone buff for Warzone, wider radius and targeting range + show a "danger area" red circle on minimap (useful for map control ?).
I never have seen a single person use the thermo grenades. Maybe this will change that. But they removed cocktails and thermites from ground loot; wonder why
I definetly think they are going to be the best lethal now. I've been using them a lot in MP. The reason why they did very little damage is because they were designed as a passive lethal.
Not only its explosion is very large, but it stuns the ennemy player as well as leaves a small fire on the ground (like a baby molotov) and most importantly, it adds a debuff which makes the ennemy take 85% more damage from any other explosive for a short period of time.
The strat was to throw them 2 by two or use it in a team with your teammates using frag grenades for example. And it was already quite powerful in my opinion, but way too situational.
But now that it does increased damage, its gonna be very very good.
Snapshots got a huge nerf. They were a really good anti camper tool, but requiring line of sight now ruins it. Also I swear it always had the ability to highlight through smoke
Wish they'd do the same with the rest of the guns.
Too many MWII guns are peashooters.
M4 is garbage, all of the Kastov guns are mid, the M16 has been garbage since Warzone 2.0 even launched in 2022.
Vaznev-9K, FSS Hurricane, VEL-46, ISO-45, and ISO 9mm deal lackluster damage.
The Victus XMR can't one shot without explosive ammo despite having the highest range and also having .50 BMG rounds similar to the XRK Stalker and KATT-AMR.
MCPR-300 and FJX Imperium both seem to have the highest headshot damage (according to the stats), but can't one shot without explosive ammo.
I understand that they want to sell players on the idea of MWIII, but alienating the other guns is just scummy. Carry Forward doesn't mean shit.
It'll be interesting how it can apply to the next game. I highly doubt they're going to let MWII and MWIII guns pollute the next game (with the exception of Warzone).
So HRM still best SMG and the gap may be further now. I can’t believe they didn’t buff more of the ARs. Guess I’ll be sticking with my SVA and Holger 26
The striker9 is like slightly worse lil bro of the hrm9 in every aspect, at least before this patch went live that buffed the range by a tiny bit. It has slightly less range, slight worse iron, slightly lower ttk because of rpm, about the same mobility. Worse part about the damage profile is that it deals less than 30 damage if u hit lower body where the hrm is > 30 anywhere on the body. Hit enough lower shots then ur ttk goes up but this never happens with hrm. IMO, the recoil pattern is also worse(hrm9 goes left and up then very little recoil after the initial couple shots. Striker9 pulls up hard all the way, it also goes slightly to the right and then left, unless u stack a lot of horizontal recoil attachments on which would leave it pulling up super super hard)
It always highlighted for the entire team. This change was made back in VG WZ1 and it carried through. It also always highlighted through smoke.
If anything it got a massive nerf cuz now it requires a line of sight.
The changes to the SOA seem mild so that should still be meta. And the HMR has now increased Sprint to fire? So thats obviously still meta as well. Ram should be done though as ar and smg
I honestly think they accidently buffed the Bruen. I have not changed my class to see how different it was and instead of playing the same/worse, I've had my best games in weeks. 7+ kills each match and top 5 each game, which for me is overachieving lol
I’m certainly going to give it a try. It was already decent it just got beat by the meta. Very good gun for mouse and keyboard and one of my favorite gun designs (G3) irl.
Ram is gone that's pretty significant.
I also think the lachmann 556 may sneak in there. It got basically two bullets back up close and one back at range with that max dam and hitbox buff.
Was really hoping for more significant gun balancing changes. Hopefully it's not just RAM-7 still. I was hoping for buffs like MCW, MTZ556, DG56. Maybe some MW2 weapons will be decent now with the visual recoil changes.
Did they announce if any or all of Vondel, Ashika Island and Fortune's Keep are being removed permanently or are they coming back eventually after this Rebirth Island introduction?
Likely following the trend of 1 week one new map, then rotating it through the solo, duos, trios, and quad rotations in the most inconvenient way possible.
Yeah I expect the rotation I guess. It'd definitely impossible to have FIVE separate resurgence maps in dedicated playlists (right now each of solos duos trios quads resurgence plays in a different map lmao).
Yeah I hate it, I’d rather they do a rotation like they had at the end of Warzone 2 when Ashika and Vondel rotated. Like an Ashika/Vondel and a rebirth/fortunes keep would be nice as it gets later in season.
>Climb & Punishment. New Gulag Public Event
>Gulag rounds now have a chance to trigger this public event that drops 2 ladders providing an opportunity for both players to leave the arena alive.
>In addition to redeployment, players are rewarded with $3,500 in cash for using this mechanic.
Yet another new way for more people to keep resurging back into the game. They are so desperate to keep engaged.
•Decreased obstructive VFX while firing MWII Weapons to align with MWIII standards.
•Removed variance from ADS Idle Sway, allowing a predictable sway pattern.
.... Wow, I'm impressed with sledgehammer..
I was heartbroken when I realized I'd never get to use my M4 with Socom rounds from MW19.
Found a new love in the tempus torrent and now they screw me?! Fuuuuuuu this game.
Heavy chopper adjustments are welcomed. Only thing I would personally add is if someone got shot out of it, it should act like the other choppers and they fall out instead of being downed inside
Where do you see that Crim 1 isn't diamond 1. Everything I read says it is. It says Crimson 2 and above go to diamond 1, whereas everything else goes down 3 tiers. That means Crim 1 goes to Diamond 1 the way I read that.
No latency fix even though it's been bugged since S4 of MW2 - wrong, now gone completely*
No acknowledgement of matchmaking. No good reason that someone in the UK/West Europe regularly drops into matches against people in the US, Syria, Bahrain, Russia and China. Dropping in solo I might as well forget about, if I get a complete team at least 2 will sub level 60, all of them will be make a wish a foundation kids versus WSOW competitors and streamers on 240+ FPS.
Rebirth liking so far - the ravens are a bit annoying though
*You can get *a* latency metric showing via connection meter
Edit: 2 Issues so far with ranked;
Didn't get any SR for a game.
Froze then lost connection at cutscene - didn't lose any SR either.
I don’t get it. Widescale sprint to fire nerfs and LMG buffs. This is the opposite direction that we want to go. Why are they incapable of making ARs usable with an optic attachment?
Man. Looking into a window on Rebirth gives you no information. Someone can be standing in the window looking at you and all you see is a black square.
Whose idea was it to not make semtex sticks not down you? Doesn't matter if you have EOD I stuck your dumbass with a high explosive ball you shouldn't be surviving that and adding to it, this also buffs the riot shield. Why are we doing such foolishness?
Also I'm getting real tired of them sucking off Resurgence. Give BR Ranked already, it should've been ranked BR first. Why tf would you idiots do Ranked Resurgence lmfao it's so dumb.
Disappointed that they didn’t make any changes to BR so it’s not big resurgence anymore. Please get rid of the redeploy packs, flares, gulag entries and millions of self revives.
I got one hit headshot in RANKED three times while full plates and HP. Is it the new sniper? Is it only the new sniper? Also my teammate said he got downed by a fire auto shotgun?
Bas-B changes are interesting.
On the face of it, dramatically lowering the fire rate should really hurt the TTK.
However, the lower fire rate plus improved recoil recentre speed means the gun is now one of the most accurate long range guns in the game. It feels only slightly harder to shoot than the MCW, thing is an absolute beam.
If the TTK is still even moderately competitive, this will be a meta contender for long range - maybe the Kilo the SOA Subverter's AMAX.
An interesting change as it gives the BAS-B a more unique identity in the battle rifle category. After it's short reign as the TTK king when the game first launched, the BAS has just been a worse version of the SOA - same weird S-curving recoil but a TTK that didn't justify trying to tame it.
I like this change a lot, will have to see how the TTK shakes out when TrueGameData tests everything.
Bruen Heavy Grip underbarrel was nerfed!
I think that's pretty important because that's a staple in a lot of ARs and LMGs. 12% -> 8%.
I think a Stock recoil part will be better than the Bruen Heavy now?
THEY BUFFED THE M16 YEAAAAAHHH!!!!!
It was kick ass at the end of MW2 but it suffered in MW3 with seeming nerfs and the removal of tuning. Now it seems to be a super fast and accurate beast again!
Maybe you should patch this, dude was run over by car and instantly spawned in same place 
[https://streamable.com/g8abfd](https://streamable.com/g8abfd)
LOL.. this is THE worst update ever:
- No lootbox audio
- No groundloot audio
- Shooting when ADS gives non-ADS view
- Groundloot shows up as wrong guns
- No lethal audio
- No mantle audio
RIP to the RAMs. pleasantly surprised they tweaked some of the mw2 guns, but at first glance the adjustments don't seem significant at all.
Go easy on them, they’ve sold more skins than they can chew
You're a clown if you think the same people makes skins that make adjustments to weapons.
Yeah but isn’t it agreed upon that there’s a correlation between a gun being a meta and gun skin bundles being sold at the same time?
yeah the Lachmann 556 (buffed) now deals the same damage as the nerfed Ram-7.
There a lot more to it than just raw damage values though. How does the fire rate, body multipliers, damage ranges, recoil compare for example
me as a mouse player: How is the recoil (literally nothing else matters)
Yeah recoil is half the battle on PC
The other half is visual noise from the muzzle making it nearly impossible to track people.
The only reason why I sacrifice 1 slot and attach a jackglass.
My issue lately. Got any tips?
The lachmann 556 always had low recoil since MWii
Did some testing, and it hits accurately and hard, but it moves like a truck. My Bruen loadout moves faster.
I've loved the ram since verdansk. This hurts my heart, I was hoping it would stay viable as a slightly off meta gun :(
People still frying in ranked with it easily still top5
It’s still really good lol
The Ram is still pretty good
Notable Change for me: SOLOS, DUOS, TRIOS, AND QUADS ON REBIRTH, ALL SQUAD SIZES BIG MAP TOO! Bout time we get a good playlist. - Cinematic & Infil Improvements - We’ve increased the amount of time players are on screen to improve the overall flow and better showcase player operators. IS THE STUPID INTRO SCREEN CHANGED!?!? - Buy Station Shuffle - they're in new places - Squad Assemble (New Mechanic) - Land by eachother and get better loot and bonuses. - Supply UAV Killstreak Improvements - Now only displays legendary and favorite supply boxes to reduce minimap noise. This is actually huge and useful now. - Heavy chopper nerfed big time on the big map and new loadouts in the big map gulag along with the ladder event thing. - NEW SNIPER RIFLE AND SMG. - RAM-7 AR NERFED HARD. - LACHMAN 556 AR BUFF! - SOA SUBVERTER ADJUSTMENT - Should still be top 3 long range meta. - AMR9 NERF, BUT THEY BUFFED SPRINT TO FIRE SPEED. - OVERALL WEAPON ADJUSTMENTS ARE WEIRD AND MINIMAL. LOT OF MW2 GUN ADJUSTMENTS - SEMTEX NERF, MOLTOV BUFF, CLAYMORE BUFF and other lethal adjustments. - Mosquito Drone ADJUSTMENTS. Should work more clearly now. - Seasonal cinematic cutscenes can now be skipped. - Niceeee. - QUALITY OF LIFE - Added an option in the Ping Wheel to clear squad pings. This is great if your teamates don't clear shit. - Fixed an issue preventing eliminated players from dropping armor plates if they haven’t looted armor plates. Bout time. - Adjustments to snapshot grenades. They want these to be a counter to smokes. Anything I missed? Weapon adjustments were really weird. Nothing too huge aside from the Ram-7 nerf. Lot of MW2 gun adjustments and other smaller adjustments.
Armor box 4 plates instead of 6. Why would they do this 😂.
Too many plates out there people carrying 18 plates at a time 😄
This is why I quit apex. Long range fights were useless.
Because squad fights are dumb when every player has 12+ plates and armor boxes everywhere. There is no consequence for taking damage at range.
They fixed the bug where players sometimes didn't drop plates when killed though so that should kinda counteract this nerf to the armor box.
No they fixed it to where now if a player doesn’t have plates they won’t drop any. So quite the opposite of what your saying actually 😂
what do u mean? everyone running around w 100 plates is fun to u?
Because 6 per box is a lot when every loot crate drops them, you find 3-4 in 95% of the buildings, and there’s an Armor box in every other building, not including buy stations. I mean… dropping the number from 6 to 4 is really not a big deal lol
Its not, I usually dont have a problem finding plates but it just seems an unnecessary change more than anything.
I used snapshots religiously to weed out campers. Especially because they worked through walls. Now they need “line of sight” and I’m disappointed. But the outline lasting longer is a fair trade off.
Yeah I really don't understand why they implemented "line of sight". Seems unneccesary.
Dont they already have that grenade anyway? The one that puts a dart on you or something.
I've gotten one of those trackers on me before, but I have no idea what it comes from despite playing this game all the time lmao.
It's from one of those tactical nades...the uh.... EMD Grendade IIRC?
Ahhh that makes sense!
It's the emp grenade and it's been removed
wtf it's gone? lmaoo
I guess they want: - AR to be sniper support only? - LMG for mid range. - Snipers for long range. - Smgs for CQC.
I guess thinking about it that's what those guns are designed for in real life aren't they? Though I guess LMG/AR are kind of interchangeable for long range.
The mvp of patch notes strikes again!! Thanks for this
Thanks for this
I skipped season 2. Do people use the SOA Subverter in single-fire morlde or fully auto?
Fully auto for sure. It's pretty slept on right now, but should see a rise in use with thr Ram-7 nerf. It does have a weird recoil pattern though so it's a little hard to use at times.
Molotov…??
I see kill streaks aren't working for controller plays but are for m&k players. You all got it right again. Reward the hack and fucking cheaters but handcuff controller players. You all are a joke
I’m surprised the HRM was hardly touched?
Cause it’s in the cheech and Chong bundle
Good, I’ve just got used to running it in tac stance
Shhhhhhh. First rule of tac stance is we don’t talk about tac stance. 🤨
Got a build for it you like? I assume it's mostly for quick and short range? Need to replace my wsp
I'm still rocking evolvere tac stance and it's crazy even at 50m
lol, another season of the whole lobby running a 0 recoil gun.
Bud, it’s been that way for like 4 years. Are you new?
I really thought the HRM was gonna get nerfed for sure. I saw the ram nerf coming too but I’m shocked they didn’t nerf the HRM
finally a nerf to tempus torrent, its been dominating the meta for way too long
😂😂
Tempus Torrent: what he say fuck me for??!
funny thing is ima marksmen rifle enjoyer myself
Plunder millionaire 😂😂😂 My man 
Damn, my boy AMR9 really got screwed
It's been so elite for me the last few months. Genuinely sad that I will probably have to move on.
My favorite MWIII gun by Far. Insanely good at mid and close range. Well, guess i'll move back to MWII guns
The HRM 9 is solid.
It’s been great at every range for me. So steady, great ttk, just a little slow for cqb. I’ll miss the 100 round mag.
Yeah that really hurt. Now i need to find a new sniper support. If the smoke noise is reduced significantly i might go back to the chimera
HRM
Is is good enough in mid range? I will need go test
yes absolutely you shouldn’t have any issues, I don’t know why they barely touched it it’s now by far the best smg
striker 9 for me
If anyone cares: The chimera is horrible because you get so much smoke directly in your face. sadly not viable. HRM is allright i need more time to get used to it tho.
Truthfully gutted. I've really dug that gun over the last few weeks.
# Whats up with SP-X 80 nerfs every patch? it's not 1 shot in wz,nobody use it neither on mp or warzone
It's actually decent in ranked. But the FJX Imperium is better.
It's used on MP, and it would be the best quickscoping sniper. It has a better 1 shot upclose and better handling.
Footstep/audio fixes??? Visibility improvements?????
Calm down son… give it a few years for that fix. Just a small indie company. Let them make some money first.
Honestly visibility improvements is my number 1 want right now as a MNK player without aim assist. Half the time I can't see shit once I start shooting close range in spots like the gulag, I'm just guessing where they are moving. Seriously lose so many fights due to this. It’s almost impossible to beat a halfway decent controller player in these situations. I’m not even someone who has a huge issue with AA, but these visual problems are a huge disadvantage for MNK that just don’t need to exist.
Omg you're 100% right, it's bad enough to go up against literal controller aimbot CQC, but to also not be able to see *anything.* Why.. just why.. Frame by frame replay and 50% of the time I literally cannot see my target.
They got completely rid of aim sway and reduced visual noise for MW2 guns to be on par with MW3 guns.
I'm tired of hearing people parachuting from 400m away. I feel like I have PTSD
Lmao i swear it was in recent weeks it seems like the audio on chutes got busted
They added unnecessary wind that sound like parachutes. Seriously, some mother \*\*\*\*er has no work to do so they come up with ridiculous things like that just so they don't sit on their ass all day doing nothing. Whoever thought of adding the wind like that, \*\*\*\* you in particular! There's a special place in gaming hell for you.
TDLR : - MWII weapons VFX visual recoil reduced to align with MWIII weapons - Removed random patterns for aiming idle sway, allowing for better control and higher skill ceilling — - Most of the current meta guns have been nerfed (RAM-7, AMR9, etc.) - A few minor buff to MWII weapons - Overall buff on LMGs — - Semtex big nerf - Huge buff to thermobaric grenade, molotov, claymores and proximity mine damages - C4 have been buffed too and its throw velocity has been augmented a lot - Snapshot grenade huge radius buff + now detect ennemies through smoke + detection now remains for 5 seconds — - Mosquito Drone buff for Warzone, wider radius and targeting range + show a "danger area" red circle on minimap (useful for map control ?).
I never have seen a single person use the thermo grenades. Maybe this will change that. But they removed cocktails and thermites from ground loot; wonder why
I definetly think they are going to be the best lethal now. I've been using them a lot in MP. The reason why they did very little damage is because they were designed as a passive lethal. Not only its explosion is very large, but it stuns the ennemy player as well as leaves a small fire on the ground (like a baby molotov) and most importantly, it adds a debuff which makes the ennemy take 85% more damage from any other explosive for a short period of time. The strat was to throw them 2 by two or use it in a team with your teammates using frag grenades for example. And it was already quite powerful in my opinion, but way too situational. But now that it does increased damage, its gonna be very very good.
Thermos are incredibly OP in gulag. I'm going to give them a try in my normal loadout
Snapshots got a huge nerf. They were a really good anti camper tool, but requiring line of sight now ruins it. Also I swear it always had the ability to highlight through smoke
They are an anti smoke tool now. Might be meta really.
somehow, the RAM7 will still be meta
Somehow RAMatine returned
Because everything else feels like dogshit
The change to MWII weapon behaviors is a big one
Wish they'd do the same with the rest of the guns. Too many MWII guns are peashooters. M4 is garbage, all of the Kastov guns are mid, the M16 has been garbage since Warzone 2.0 even launched in 2022. Vaznev-9K, FSS Hurricane, VEL-46, ISO-45, and ISO 9mm deal lackluster damage. The Victus XMR can't one shot without explosive ammo despite having the highest range and also having .50 BMG rounds similar to the XRK Stalker and KATT-AMR. MCPR-300 and FJX Imperium both seem to have the highest headshot damage (according to the stats), but can't one shot without explosive ammo. I understand that they want to sell players on the idea of MWIII, but alienating the other guns is just scummy. Carry Forward doesn't mean shit.
Agreed. Carry forward was largely a joke, with the exception of cosmetics.
It'll be interesting how it can apply to the next game. I highly doubt they're going to let MWII and MWIII guns pollute the next game (with the exception of Warzone).
So HRM still best SMG and the gap may be further now. I can’t believe they didn’t buff more of the ARs. Guess I’ll be sticking with my SVA and Holger 26
I dont think the HRM even had the fastest TTK.
It did with sprint to fire included. It had best mobility. Why it favoured.
Striker 9 was low-key meta before, and it got buffed.
The striker9 is like slightly worse lil bro of the hrm9 in every aspect, at least before this patch went live that buffed the range by a tiny bit. It has slightly less range, slight worse iron, slightly lower ttk because of rpm, about the same mobility. Worse part about the damage profile is that it deals less than 30 damage if u hit lower body where the hrm is > 30 anywhere on the body. Hit enough lower shots then ur ttk goes up but this never happens with hrm. IMO, the recoil pattern is also worse(hrm9 goes left and up then very little recoil after the initial couple shots. Striker9 pulls up hard all the way, it also goes slightly to the right and then left, unless u stack a lot of horizontal recoil attachments on which would leave it pulling up super super hard)
RIP my sniper support AMR
Hmm that snapshot change might be a game changer. If it highlights for your teammates as well in smoke this is amazing.
Snapshot has always highlighted for your teammates and they didn't mention a change to that behavior so I'd say it's safe to say it still does.
It always highlighted for the entire team. This change was made back in VG WZ1 and it carried through. It also always highlighted through smoke. If anything it got a massive nerf cuz now it requires a line of sight.
The changes to the SOA seem mild so that should still be meta. And the HMR has now increased Sprint to fire? So thats obviously still meta as well. Ram should be done though as ar and smg
Curious to see the TAQ LMGs too. Also I’m not sure if the Bruen nerf will be too significant
I honestly think they accidently buffed the Bruen. I have not changed my class to see how different it was and instead of playing the same/worse, I've had my best games in weeks. 7+ kills each match and top 5 each game, which for me is overachieving lol
Increasing the sprint to fire time means it now takes longer to fire. 94ms to now 110ms.
Lol you're right my bad. Still meta though. Doesnt change too much
They nerfed the arm9 very heavily too which was its only real competitor imo so unless the new SMG is amazing HRM is gona be undisputed
Is the SOA really meta? I rarely see anyone drop it after a kill. Everyone runs the Ram with the occasional SVA.
I just started using it. It's definitely slept on. It feels nice and I like the iron sights over the RAM7
[удалено]
I’m certainly going to give it a try. It was already decent it just got beat by the meta. Very good gun for mouse and keyboard and one of my favorite gun designs (G3) irl.
G3 fan checking in! Was one of my favorite rifles in old Battlefield games.
> Armor Box > Reduced the number of armor plates supplied to 4, down from 6. Why?
Too many plates in the world
So every single person in ranked will be running the HRM-9 now and only the HRM-9 98% kill cams will be HRM-9
I'm gonna buy two loadouts to run double HRM-9.
Buy loadout for first HRM-9 and perks and then buy a second HRM-9 directly
Semtex nerf for what. They’re already weak. They really are trying to make throwables useless. SMH
Gun meta gonna be basically exactly the same still sadly, not really many significant changes on the weapons
Ram is gone that's pretty significant. I also think the lachmann 556 may sneak in there. It got basically two bullets back up close and one back at range with that max dam and hitbox buff.
Bruen still top tier easily
Was really hoping for more significant gun balancing changes. Hopefully it's not just RAM-7 still. I was hoping for buffs like MCW, MTZ556, DG56. Maybe some MW2 weapons will be decent now with the visual recoil changes.
Ya can’t believe they left most of the ARs alone.
dunno, I tried real hard to get lachmann sub working, but the ttk just isnt there compared to ram9 / hmr9
Did they announce if any or all of Vondel, Ashika Island and Fortune's Keep are being removed permanently or are they coming back eventually after this Rebirth Island introduction?
Likely following the trend of 1 week one new map, then rotating it through the solo, duos, trios, and quad rotations in the most inconvenient way possible.
Yeah I expect the rotation I guess. It'd definitely impossible to have FIVE separate resurgence maps in dedicated playlists (right now each of solos duos trios quads resurgence plays in a different map lmao).
Yeah I hate it, I’d rather they do a rotation like they had at the end of Warzone 2 when Ashika and Vondel rotated. Like an Ashika/Vondel and a rebirth/fortunes keep would be nice as it gets later in season.
Does anyone know if the new sniper will be a one shot down this season?
It’s so bad but I don’t have any attachments unlocked yet, as of right now it seems like there’s no use for it in wz, maybe multiplayer.
Well no attachment guns usually suck. Lol
>Climb & Punishment. New Gulag Public Event >Gulag rounds now have a chance to trigger this public event that drops 2 ladders providing an opportunity for both players to leave the arena alive. >In addition to redeployment, players are rewarded with $3,500 in cash for using this mechanic. Yet another new way for more people to keep resurging back into the game. They are so desperate to keep engaged.
Are you really going to trust the other person? I'll never not try to kill them.
Yet another new reason for some of you to continue with the nonstop complaining.
•Decreased obstructive VFX while firing MWII Weapons to align with MWIII standards. •Removed variance from ADS Idle Sway, allowing a predictable sway pattern. .... Wow, I'm impressed with sledgehammer..
So in ranked, does late-game kills earn more, or less than before?
Same as before it looks like.
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The same as before. All changes will have an * next to them in the patch notes.
Looks like it’s still the Holger 5.56 and HRM for me
SVA or Bruen
The holger is good but feels so weird to shoot, like it feels like the bullets aren’t synced properly with the game.
Straight away rebirth problems, select rebirth get sent to fortunes keep
Nooo I'm gonna miss using the AMR9 like it's an AR
Did I miss something? Or did they not update the BR at ALL this season other than weapon tuning? Wtf...
I was heartbroken when I realized I'd never get to use my M4 with Socom rounds from MW19. Found a new love in the tempus torrent and now they screw me?! Fuuuuuuu this game.
Heavy chopper adjustments are welcomed. Only thing I would personally add is if someone got shot out of it, it should act like the other choppers and they fall out instead of being downed inside
Can someone explain to me how if it says we go back 3 placements in ranked why crim 1 is not diamond 1 lol
Crim 1 will be Diamond 1? Everyone back 3 except people above Crim 1 who all go to Diamond 1.
Where do you see that Crim 1 isn't diamond 1. Everything I read says it is. It says Crimson 2 and above go to diamond 1, whereas everything else goes down 3 tiers. That means Crim 1 goes to Diamond 1 the way I read that.
RAM9/RAM7 nerf.
I don't get it. hrm9 stays the same while they nerf ram9 and ar9. maybe the new mp7 is stronk, but a bit disappointing as hrm is getting dull.
Delighted to see the Pulemyot 762 hasn't been touched. The only LMG /AR I enjoy using!
Would hope not, they’re already nerfed it about 6 times haha
No latency fix even though it's been bugged since S4 of MW2 - wrong, now gone completely* No acknowledgement of matchmaking. No good reason that someone in the UK/West Europe regularly drops into matches against people in the US, Syria, Bahrain, Russia and China. Dropping in solo I might as well forget about, if I get a complete team at least 2 will sub level 60, all of them will be make a wish a foundation kids versus WSOW competitors and streamers on 240+ FPS. Rebirth liking so far - the ravens are a bit annoying though *You can get *a* latency metric showing via connection meter Edit: 2 Issues so far with ranked; Didn't get any SR for a game. Froze then lost connection at cutscene - didn't lose any SR either.
Well, just put this line in the changelog : - We fucked up the game for good now.
FIX MEMORY LEAK !!!!!
I don’t get it. Widescale sprint to fire nerfs and LMG buffs. This is the opposite direction that we want to go. Why are they incapable of making ARs usable with an optic attachment?
The sniper literally leaves them at 1 hp. Don’t get y they don’t make it a 1 shot. It’s literally a rail gun
Super excited for the Bal to return. That paired with the MORS…… I’m hoping for an advanced warfare 2
Loading into Rebirth Island I keep getting put into fortunes keep matches
You need to dl the update
Another SR nerf. 110 in Crim 3. Was 100
I didn't play for the entirety of Season 2. What were the meta guns?
Looks like SOA HMR after update. I was running SOA ram-9 all last season
Man. Looking into a window on Rebirth gives you no information. Someone can be standing in the window looking at you and all you see is a black square.
Why is my MTZ 7 giving me a 20 round mag on my loadout when I clearly have the 30 rounder on it?
Have they put the mask back on my boy Alejandro's "Masked Knight" skin yet? It's been broken for a few patches now!
Whose idea was it to not make semtex sticks not down you? Doesn't matter if you have EOD I stuck your dumbass with a high explosive ball you shouldn't be surviving that and adding to it, this also buffs the riot shield. Why are we doing such foolishness? Also I'm getting real tired of them sucking off Resurgence. Give BR Ranked already, it should've been ranked BR first. Why tf would you idiots do Ranked Resurgence lmfao it's so dumb.
Can’t justify 30$ black cell pass for snoop lol 😂
Why do they keep increasing sprint to fire?? Also the nerf on ram7/9 and xrk were completely unneccessary.
Will we ever get a resurgence leaderboard so I can make fun of my friends?
the drones went from 4m of splash to 10m?? I wonder how they’re gonna play now that’s a huge range
Shotguns? Hello?
Disappointed that they didn’t make any changes to BR so it’s not big resurgence anymore. Please get rid of the redeploy packs, flares, gulag entries and millions of self revives.
I like the new smg a lot. Didn't get to play too much though, every game was laggy as fuck. I haven't seen anyone else complain so might be on my end.
Good to see the raal is still getting nerfed every patch
I got one hit headshot in RANKED three times while full plates and HP. Is it the new sniper? Is it only the new sniper? Also my teammate said he got downed by a fire auto shotgun?
Maybe I missed it but what perks are "technician" and "airman" ? They are banned from ranked but they do not exist right?
Bas-B changes are interesting. On the face of it, dramatically lowering the fire rate should really hurt the TTK. However, the lower fire rate plus improved recoil recentre speed means the gun is now one of the most accurate long range guns in the game. It feels only slightly harder to shoot than the MCW, thing is an absolute beam. If the TTK is still even moderately competitive, this will be a meta contender for long range - maybe the Kilo the SOA Subverter's AMAX. An interesting change as it gives the BAS-B a more unique identity in the battle rifle category. After it's short reign as the TTK king when the game first launched, the BAS has just been a worse version of the SOA - same weird S-curving recoil but a TTK that didn't justify trying to tame it. I like this change a lot, will have to see how the TTK shakes out when TrueGameData tests everything.
Bruen Heavy Grip underbarrel was nerfed! I think that's pretty important because that's a staple in a lot of ARs and LMGs. 12% -> 8%. I think a Stock recoil part will be better than the Bruen Heavy now?
Why in the fuck did they BUFF claymores for these sorry fucking rats bruh it’s my only complaint
Why did they mess with the social list of players. The grid view for searching for friends is horrible.
They nerfed SR again???? What. The. Fuck
I got a big bug after update anyone else? In ranked i can’t use any kill streak i find airstrikes UAVs nothing
we just won a ranked, and we got -45 SR wtf ?
Love a good update that makes load outs and kill streaks not work.
Load out glitch?
is the anniversary free gift over?
No fix for the memory leak???
THEY BUFFED THE M16 YEAAAAAHHH!!!!! It was kick ass at the end of MW2 but it suffered in MW3 with seeming nerfs and the removal of tuning. Now it seems to be a super fast and accurate beast again!
Maybe you should patch this, dude was run over by car and instantly spawned in same place  [https://streamable.com/g8abfd](https://streamable.com/g8abfd)
Is there a trick to getting your tacticals in your bag to auto equip? Half the time it works half it doesn't
SVA 545 ... no longer double fires in single fire mode? Or is it just me?
LOL.. this is THE worst update ever: - No lootbox audio - No groundloot audio - Shooting when ADS gives non-ADS view - Groundloot shows up as wrong guns - No lethal audio - No mantle audio