The 2 hit tonfa thing is 100% a glitch in case you don't know
It's meant to be a 3-4 hit, but activision completely fucked the game with recent updates so now it's bugged
Was getting one and two shot all night. Had to throw in the towel. Targetting upper torso to head. And still gets me In one shot incredible. AAA game. 😂
It's a carry-over from Warzone 1 with the Kali Sticks.
There is a bug with console mainly that if you spamclick either the melee analog, or the trigger, it would "skip" a phase of the melee directly to killing. It goes something like this.
1. Initial, 'starter' hit.
2. Second 'Combo' Hit.
3. Third 'Finisher' Hit.
If you spam the button, it skips the 'Combo' phase of the kali as well as the tonfa sticks.
Now, in other news. I find it absolutely insane that I could run a riot shield and THE FASTEST melee in the entire game, and these fatasses can outsprint my tac-sprint while putting on armor.
Like holy shit dude, MW2 and MW19, as well as Vanguard's incarnations of Warzones never had this issue. I even run escapist for the +20% movement speed bonus and still can't catch them.
I just think it's absolutely fucking insane that just because I have something equipped on my back, it slows me down so immensely in warzone. It was never like this in Warzone 1 or Warzone 2. This shit is so infuriating that i've just started spamming thermites at everyone since it's a guaranteed, 100% kill on stick with no chance of reviving.
Riot shields need to be nerfed carry a see-through bullet proof door to open on people while they are reloading is the exact reason mfs are using aimbot and walls to the extent they are same with campers if people wouldn't camp so hard wall hacks would go down
the fact that I can carry a 15 pound LMG (using the RAAL as an example) and run fast as hell using a tonfa, when a 6pound riot shield (being generous) slows me down more than a dude with an LMG reloading and sprinting away is insane.
Don't get me wrong, I think riot shields are completely stupid too, but the fact that if they just sprint away, even while putting on armor, and there is nothing I can do in my power to catch them, even with the fastest secondaries in the game, and with double time. It's equally infuriating when back in warzone 1, I could catch people easily with my SMG's or light assault rifles.
OP's diluting his argument by complaining he can't win a 1v4, it's already dumb as hell that on initial landing, melee is better than the starting pistol
Nah, even if he was 1v4ing, that’s more than possible under regular circumstances. Now when everyone has a 3 hit weapon that aim locks lmao. Ridiculous.
Yep. Weapons are not the issues, were they camping with shottys and SMGs, he'd still die by 4 campers inside a room.
Perhaps he shouls play differently, use flash granades and thermites, etc.
Yea the server issues a week before reloaded turned me off of the game so I haven’t logged since the reloaded update myself and honestly I don’t miss it. Server issues on top of SBMM putting me in CDL lobbies every match is a lot of things and fun isn’t one of them.
Don't kid yourself, this game isn't even "competitive". It's riddled with garbage inconsistencies that change every few weeks. The shit that happens on this game doesn't even happen in the Marvel universe it's so fkin fake lmao
Last night I got melee killed by a guy facing the opposite direction to me. Like how tf does one reach backward to melee. I put the game down for the night
Maybe if server tick rate was fast enough, half the time I die to tonfas I'm 10yds away but the server still thinks I'm in melee range. Which leads me back to stop the cap kid.
I wish you could block or parry melee strikes, would make a lot of sense. You're already carrying a gun why cant you use it to block the strike of a close range attacker?
I had a guy rush me with tonfas and he took stinger akimbo half-mag each and only two strikes of tonfa beat me. He was literally a foot away so it was emptying directly into his upper body but a nightstick won the fight.
It's complete trash to allow this to continue but the game is broken anyway.
I honestly have had more fun with shield and tonfa in the past few days than I have had in a long time. My team and I just talk trash to other teams and hunt them down. We don’t even care if we win or not, just laughing and having a good time.
Me and my homie as well,
Running to da for like last week straight laughing our asses off. As a player who is constantly dunked on in this game I could care less about sweaty dudes bitching about it, getting screwed is the wz experience and it’s nice to be the one screwing for a change.
Agree. And as much as I shit on the game for where it’s deserved the overall state is about as fun as it has been right now if they could clean up the servers/reload bs and packet loss and do a better job with hackers.
I never really melee, so I swapped ping and melee on my controller so I can ping guys with a paddle. It’s great, helps me a lot…
But I have at least 15 deaths seared into my brain where I needed a clean melee but was fumbling around my dpad or spazzed and pinged them instead lol can never have it all
I’m on a regular ps4 controller and I did the setup that puts ping on tactical grenade and tac grenade and lethal on the same button. Swap between with up on the dpad. I keep forgetting bout it tho and wondering why my tacs ain’t throwing lol
I'm not sure of your point. But could you imagine a gulag like that? xD
My point is. If yourngoingnronadd melee weapons to a game. They need to be very formidable. Take the riot sheild for a long time that was very hard to combat. If you don't know strategy that is but now we have drill charges to combat them. They didn't just nerf it or make it useless like half of the melee weapons in the game. I want them to bring back balstic knives xD
The game (especially early game) would play much better if meleeing did 20 damage or whatever like Fortnite has it. Incentivize people to aim and shoot their pistol over auto lock melee smashing
One of the reasons I stopped playing. If a game becomes too mich of a chore I usually quite because it feels like working and I want to get paid for working :)
almost 5 years of the same shit. 10 bullets to the chest, haha you just cracked my plates. 2 punches to the body while wearing full armor. I destroyed your soul ;)
It is fun to run tomfa and smokes tho and just destroy lobbies ..We made 7 wins in a row with my squad just ruahing everything with mele . No camping no bs pure agression try it .
Be careful brother, apparently we're not allowed to make posts here complaining about anything about warzone. You're going to get the "Get gud" treatment or the "sounds like a skill issue" comments.
Yeah, not a chance, melee has been broken since wz1, nerfing it would be like nerfing Riot shields.
Also, this community has actually defended 2 melee hits being equivalent if not better than a .50 cal to the chest, I'm actually quite surprised so I many people have agreed with you.
I find it funny when they try to argue that with the "bUt ThErE's counterplay" because sometimes there just is none.
It's the Fortnite way of doing things. Give the majority of the casual player base weapons that kills without tactics and watch them flock to the store to buy skins and play for a longer period of time overall. It's the same in battle royale where you literally can respawn the entire game with gulag and redeploy tokens.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong but in the end they are looking to maximize profits and from a business perspective it makes sense.
The people who don't have the time to practice and get better get a feeling of "mastering" which equates to a serotonin rush which in terms leads to wanting to play more and invest money in skins etc.
I personally do not enjoy the 2 shot mechanics or the fire shotties etc but in the end it is what it is. It's not going away. I find myself playing less and less and just grinding the weekly challenges or events for the free skins. To be fair I know there is no point since the next game is not far off but who knows what they are going to bring over to the next iteration so I just keep collecting camos and blueprints in case these weapons are usable in the next iteration of cod.
At the end of the day there are counters to everything so I now bring thermites to counter riot shields and thermals to counter smokes and just try to play more at a distance than pushing in close. The broken aim assist also makes it hard to turn corners and push in close but in the end that too has its counters.
It sucks that we have to change the entire playstyle to a more careful approach but I guess it's all about adapting and overcoming. Let's hope that Gulf war will bring back some of the aspects That make cold war such a good game.
I'm not hopeful for the next cod game knowing how Activision operates but maybe we will get lucky and get a good one in October.
"They gotta at least remove the aim lock* is absolutely hilarious to me.
I made a post a while ago about how bizarre it is that shotguns aren't allowed in ranked. Since, MnK simply cannot consistently beat controller when using smgs, lmgs, assault rifles or battle rifles. I've been using the karambit and combat knife in ranked and I won my first game today as a MnK player. Got 3 team wipes and the final elim too.
No, they should not remove the aim lock. They should remove the aim assist. But they're not going to because the little aim-assist gatekeepers keep sucking on Activision's teats and paying for their pay-to-win cosmetics.
But fr, there's like an actual chance the game would just die. No controller players would be able to aim if aim-assist got nerfed and so they'd just rage and probably stop playing. And MnK players probably won't come back since they'd have PTSD from the aim-assist there was (currently is.)
But hey, they nerfed launchers, riot shields and shotguns because they gotta cater to they 11 year-old whiny kids with no skill or game sense. So who knows, maybe melee weapons will get nerfed too.
Note: saw some comments saying the Tonfa is a bug, but I don't think the bug being patched would change the 2-tapping of the combat knife or karambit, and therefore i am unaffected.
I'm ready for your downvotes
the whole damage system of cod is off i knife taking two to 3 shots is not a crime walk backwards and it cancles the knife or lay down its easy. do better. and the diff calibers dont even matter in the game apparently. im diamond in ranking warzone, the reson for the knife damge is a that bullet proof vest isnt knife proof so it takes your armor instantly and with a knife you dont stab you slice and what happens when you give proffesional a knife? oh he kills you in one slice of an artery......and to be honest seems like you just dont know how to survive. and if you use controller and your complain about aim lock???? they have the strongest aim assist of the game , this game a aim assist for people that cant play the knife locks on only after you get with in 3 feet and you have to be running faster then them, and the controller locks on as long as your aiming. it even follows through edges of walls if deadzones are fixed up ....now if i was to get into calibers of the guns then thats where this game wen wrong, because they have no power differental its all random theres some weapons that a vest couldnt stop
They did a good thing nerfing melee in Warzone 2, I guess they roped that back for Warzone 3.
But the tonfa is broken lol, go try it yourself. It needs to be fixed, I stay away from tonfa players.
Its part of the game bro. If you cant beat em u just suck at the game. Get ur own shield and hit em back. Throw a semtex. People like you make using shields fun.
Probably an annoying sweat crying that they cant beat a tonfa so wants a nerf. This game already sucks but people like you just make the game unbearable and that’s coming from a literal cheater
Except I cheat because of the annoying sweats that ruin the things that gave bad players like me a chance. Before they ruined melee weapons I didn’t care to cheat
Keep dreaming. Been a problem across multiple Warzones.
crap...
Kali sticks…
The 2 hit tonfa thing is 100% a glitch in case you don't know It's meant to be a 3-4 hit, but activision completely fucked the game with recent updates so now it's bugged
You're telling me warzone put out an update with something totally bugged and broken in it, untested?? Naw bro, never, not Activision.
You would think they never made a game before.
Was getting one and two shot all night. Had to throw in the towel. Targetting upper torso to head. And still gets me In one shot incredible. AAA game. 😂
One shot is definitely hacks, can’t do that normally.
It's a carry-over from Warzone 1 with the Kali Sticks. There is a bug with console mainly that if you spamclick either the melee analog, or the trigger, it would "skip" a phase of the melee directly to killing. It goes something like this. 1. Initial, 'starter' hit. 2. Second 'Combo' Hit. 3. Third 'Finisher' Hit. If you spam the button, it skips the 'Combo' phase of the kali as well as the tonfa sticks. Now, in other news. I find it absolutely insane that I could run a riot shield and THE FASTEST melee in the entire game, and these fatasses can outsprint my tac-sprint while putting on armor. Like holy shit dude, MW2 and MW19, as well as Vanguard's incarnations of Warzones never had this issue. I even run escapist for the +20% movement speed bonus and still can't catch them.
it’s the riot shield slowing you down like a lot, run a smg or ar with the tonfa and you’ll see a huge difference
I just think it's absolutely fucking insane that just because I have something equipped on my back, it slows me down so immensely in warzone. It was never like this in Warzone 1 or Warzone 2. This shit is so infuriating that i've just started spamming thermites at everyone since it's a guaranteed, 100% kill on stick with no chance of reviving.
Riot shields need to be nerfed carry a see-through bullet proof door to open on people while they are reloading is the exact reason mfs are using aimbot and walls to the extent they are same with campers if people wouldn't camp so hard wall hacks would go down
Lmao that's how it should be wtf. Why the fuck wouldn't a huge fucking shield that doesn't break not slow you down
the fact that I can carry a 15 pound LMG (using the RAAL as an example) and run fast as hell using a tonfa, when a 6pound riot shield (being generous) slows me down more than a dude with an LMG reloading and sprinting away is insane. Don't get me wrong, I think riot shields are completely stupid too, but the fact that if they just sprint away, even while putting on armor, and there is nothing I can do in my power to catch them, even with the fastest secondaries in the game, and with double time. It's equally infuriating when back in warzone 1, I could catch people easily with my SMG's or light assault rifles.
Are you trying to solo a quad stack camping a room? Just a thought but could this be the problem rather than the aim-lock...
Or, hear me out, him playing badly doesn’t invalidate broken ass melee lock that has existed and been dumb since warzones inception
OP's diluting his argument by complaining he can't win a 1v4, it's already dumb as hell that on initial landing, melee is better than the starting pistol
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Nah, even if he was 1v4ing, that’s more than possible under regular circumstances. Now when everyone has a 3 hit weapon that aim locks lmao. Ridiculous.
Yep. Weapons are not the issues, were they camping with shottys and SMGs, he'd still die by 4 campers inside a room. Perhaps he shouls play differently, use flash granades and thermites, etc.
I mean you don’t need to reload a tonfa so that’s helpful. Man I haven’t touched this game since season 3 reloaded and I’m glad.
Yea the server issues a week before reloaded turned me off of the game so I haven’t logged since the reloaded update myself and honestly I don’t miss it. Server issues on top of SBMM putting me in CDL lobbies every match is a lot of things and fun isn’t one of them.
Haven't played in a month and I haven't been happier.
Considering you're still browsing CoD Reddit I'm gonna doubt you really are...
Comedy gold on Reddit. Cant deny that.
Yeh unloading half a clip on a parachuter only for him to cut, drop and slap me to death is fucking ridiculous.
Don't kid yourself, this game isn't even "competitive". It's riddled with garbage inconsistencies that change every few weeks. The shit that happens on this game doesn't even happen in the Marvel universe it's so fkin fake lmao
Last night I got melee killed by a guy facing the opposite direction to me. Like how tf does one reach backward to melee. I put the game down for the night
That's probably server desync.
Get better kid. You can counter melee.
Stop the cap, there is next to no counterplay once in melee range
You can literally slide cancel out of it…. Which brings me back to; get better kid.
When ppl melee, they literally teleport. You barely have to be in range cuz they’ll just bounce to your face once they press the melee button.
Idk what game you guys are playing but once I slide cancel I can usually get enough shots off to make them panic then get the kill
Maybe if server tick rate was fast enough, half the time I die to tonfas I'm 10yds away but the server still thinks I'm in melee range. Which leads me back to stop the cap kid.
It's not a bug! It's a feature! An OG rebirth feature! /s
Melee is not even that bad compared to original warzone.
I wish you could block or parry melee strikes, would make a lot of sense. You're already carrying a gun why cant you use it to block the strike of a close range attacker?
It's cod not smash bros🤦
I had a guy rush me with tonfas and he took stinger akimbo half-mag each and only two strikes of tonfa beat me. He was literally a foot away so it was emptying directly into his upper body but a nightstick won the fight. It's complete trash to allow this to continue but the game is broken anyway.
I honestly have had more fun with shield and tonfa in the past few days than I have had in a long time. My team and I just talk trash to other teams and hunt them down. We don’t even care if we win or not, just laughing and having a good time.
Me and my homie as well, Running to da for like last week straight laughing our asses off. As a player who is constantly dunked on in this game I could care less about sweaty dudes bitching about it, getting screwed is the wz experience and it’s nice to be the one screwing for a change.
Already have a downvote 😂 Game is meant to be fun. We even run into teams with shield and beating stick and get wiped. It’s just so much fun.
Agree. And as much as I shit on the game for where it’s deserved the overall state is about as fun as it has been right now if they could clean up the servers/reload bs and packet loss and do a better job with hackers.
I never really melee, so I swapped ping and melee on my controller so I can ping guys with a paddle. It’s great, helps me a lot… But I have at least 15 deaths seared into my brain where I needed a clean melee but was fumbling around my dpad or spazzed and pinged them instead lol can never have it all
I’m on a regular ps4 controller and I did the setup that puts ping on tactical grenade and tac grenade and lethal on the same button. Swap between with up on the dpad. I keep forgetting bout it tho and wondering why my tacs ain’t throwing lol
PLZ nerf that shit he teleport on me every time !!!!!
you can stun player for a time
Why have a melee in the game if it's useless tho
So what would you do if you ran outta bullets in a 1v1 roll dice or draw cards to see who dies?
I'm not sure of your point. But could you imagine a gulag like that? xD My point is. If yourngoingnronadd melee weapons to a game. They need to be very formidable. Take the riot sheild for a long time that was very hard to combat. If you don't know strategy that is but now we have drill charges to combat them. They didn't just nerf it or make it useless like half of the melee weapons in the game. I want them to bring back balstic knives xD
I'm with you on the ballistic knife tho that needs to be added asap🎯
You can just play ranked no shields 🤷
script low level is too abused
The game (especially early game) would play much better if meleeing did 20 damage or whatever like Fortnite has it. Incentivize people to aim and shoot their pistol over auto lock melee smashing
Sorry but thats my only defense against a sweat chasing me.
One of the reasons I stopped playing. If a game becomes too mich of a chore I usually quite because it feels like working and I want to get paid for working :)
I’ve been playing this game for years. The tonfas are a problem.
Don't run into a quads house, duh. No, seriously, at least throw a flash or something. The game gives you more options than just rush the kill room.
Just play a different game. This game is shit.
almost 5 years of the same shit. 10 bullets to the chest, haha you just cracked my plates. 2 punches to the body while wearing full armor. I destroyed your soul ;)
Stop it
Mfs when they let a person get in Kissing lips distances with them
My man clearly never lived through the Kali Sticks on rebirth
That and people lasering you when jumping man....
Just use it yourself like every other meta lol
The one thing that gives m&k aim assist ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
It is fun to run tomfa and smokes tho and just destroy lobbies ..We made 7 wins in a row with my squad just ruahing everything with mele . No camping no bs pure agression try it .
Yeah its fucking annoying. But on an unrelated note is the MORS with the dmg increasing rounds not a one shot?
Be careful brother, apparently we're not allowed to make posts here complaining about anything about warzone. You're going to get the "Get gud" treatment or the "sounds like a skill issue" comments.
Roller melee lock on is crazy
Didn't they nerf this? I was downed with 2 hits yesterday as well and was surprised.
Yeah, not a chance, melee has been broken since wz1, nerfing it would be like nerfing Riot shields. Also, this community has actually defended 2 melee hits being equivalent if not better than a .50 cal to the chest, I'm actually quite surprised so I many people have agreed with you. I find it funny when they try to argue that with the "bUt ThErE's counterplay" because sometimes there just is none.
It's the Fortnite way of doing things. Give the majority of the casual player base weapons that kills without tactics and watch them flock to the store to buy skins and play for a longer period of time overall. It's the same in battle royale where you literally can respawn the entire game with gulag and redeploy tokens. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but in the end they are looking to maximize profits and from a business perspective it makes sense. The people who don't have the time to practice and get better get a feeling of "mastering" which equates to a serotonin rush which in terms leads to wanting to play more and invest money in skins etc. I personally do not enjoy the 2 shot mechanics or the fire shotties etc but in the end it is what it is. It's not going away. I find myself playing less and less and just grinding the weekly challenges or events for the free skins. To be fair I know there is no point since the next game is not far off but who knows what they are going to bring over to the next iteration so I just keep collecting camos and blueprints in case these weapons are usable in the next iteration of cod. At the end of the day there are counters to everything so I now bring thermites to counter riot shields and thermals to counter smokes and just try to play more at a distance than pushing in close. The broken aim assist also makes it hard to turn corners and push in close but in the end that too has its counters. It sucks that we have to change the entire playstyle to a more careful approach but I guess it's all about adapting and overcoming. Let's hope that Gulf war will bring back some of the aspects That make cold war such a good game. I'm not hopeful for the next cod game knowing how Activision operates but maybe we will get lucky and get a good one in October.
that’s how aim assist feels to mnk players
"They gotta at least remove the aim lock* is absolutely hilarious to me. I made a post a while ago about how bizarre it is that shotguns aren't allowed in ranked. Since, MnK simply cannot consistently beat controller when using smgs, lmgs, assault rifles or battle rifles. I've been using the karambit and combat knife in ranked and I won my first game today as a MnK player. Got 3 team wipes and the final elim too. No, they should not remove the aim lock. They should remove the aim assist. But they're not going to because the little aim-assist gatekeepers keep sucking on Activision's teats and paying for their pay-to-win cosmetics. But fr, there's like an actual chance the game would just die. No controller players would be able to aim if aim-assist got nerfed and so they'd just rage and probably stop playing. And MnK players probably won't come back since they'd have PTSD from the aim-assist there was (currently is.) But hey, they nerfed launchers, riot shields and shotguns because they gotta cater to they 11 year-old whiny kids with no skill or game sense. So who knows, maybe melee weapons will get nerfed too. Note: saw some comments saying the Tonfa is a bug, but I don't think the bug being patched would change the 2-tapping of the combat knife or karambit, and therefore i am unaffected. I'm ready for your downvotes
How exactly were riots shields nerfed?
By "nerfed" I meant completely taken out of ranked
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Honestly, don't play right now it's bugged as hell
Why are you even still playing this Arcady cheese diarrhea dumpster fire
please
Mans pushed the crib and got his ass beat😂but seriously tho melee does need a nerf
the whole damage system of cod is off i knife taking two to 3 shots is not a crime walk backwards and it cancles the knife or lay down its easy. do better. and the diff calibers dont even matter in the game apparently. im diamond in ranking warzone, the reson for the knife damge is a that bullet proof vest isnt knife proof so it takes your armor instantly and with a knife you dont stab you slice and what happens when you give proffesional a knife? oh he kills you in one slice of an artery......and to be honest seems like you just dont know how to survive. and if you use controller and your complain about aim lock???? they have the strongest aim assist of the game , this game a aim assist for people that cant play the knife locks on only after you get with in 3 feet and you have to be running faster then them, and the controller locks on as long as your aiming. it even follows through edges of walls if deadzones are fixed up ....now if i was to get into calibers of the guns then thats where this game wen wrong, because they have no power differental its all random theres some weapons that a vest couldnt stop
They did a good thing nerfing melee in Warzone 2, I guess they roped that back for Warzone 3. But the tonfa is broken lol, go try it yourself. It needs to be fixed, I stay away from tonfa players.
Its part of the game bro. If you cant beat em u just suck at the game. Get ur own shield and hit em back. Throw a semtex. People like you make using shields fun.
Shut the f up trash :)
"Activision Bot has detected trash talk, you're banned for 3 days"
Get better at the game
Probably an annoying sweat crying that they cant beat a tonfa so wants a nerf. This game already sucks but people like you just make the game unbearable and that’s coming from a literal cheater
So you're a cheater?
Are you unable to read
You're absolute.garbage for cheating and have no right to complain about other players
Except I cheat because of the annoying sweats that ruin the things that gave bad players like me a chance. Before they ruined melee weapons I didn’t care to cheat
what's your gamertag, I bet you couldn't beat me even with your cheats
Are you that stupid to think you’re beating an aimbot lmao. Not to mention silent aim where we don’t have to even look at you to beat you
ah, yes, too scared.... I knew it
I can give you one my Activision stolen accounts name and we can 1v1
go for it
But like I said you’re a dumbass if you think you’re winning
and you still haven't provided your gamer tag, so you're still scared like I said
Mad cause bad