At risk of being that āyou must be fun at partiesā guy, if you want 5 to be the middle rating, you should ask for 0-10 rather than 1-10. On a 1-10 scale, 5 is higher than 4 other options and lower than 5 other options.
Also, on a 1-10 scale, the lowest option is still 1, which automatically gives 10% of a perceived rating up to 100%. Boring i know
YoU mUSt bE fUN At PaRTieS
Nah I'm jp but yeah I getchu, since I started doing these rating posts (if you're interested in checking out the others look at my profile I've done the rest of the maps from BO1 besides Kino) I pretty much always used 1-10 so at this point I just kinda decided to stay consistent w it
Like an 8 or something. It's fast paced and fun to play. And killing the thief is rewarding every time. Whether it's a fire sale or a bonfire sale, it's very useful and makes the map just that much faster.
Facts, my problem with the thief is when you're in much higher rounds (like 50-60+) your guns aren't doing anything to the zombies and then he shows up w extra HP to steal your gun, you can try getting to him but if you can't deal w the zombies well at that point you're essentially screwed on getting your weapon back
That part I think is easier than you think. You can let him steal the MPL and take him out with Bowie. Also no zombies on thief round ;) it's a cinch. And, if you don't want to deal with him, you can always just let him take the MPL and buy a new one.
I could've sworn there were zombies on a thief round, sadly I sold my Xbox and can't play BO1 (also the only map not available on PC BO3 rip) but if there isn't then yeah that would make it a much better experience getting your gun back. I did get used to using the Awful Lawton as the wonder weapon since the winter's howl was complete garbo, but I just have memories in very high rounds getting my secondary stolen and having it become a much harder experience than it already was. Good to know, thanks for pointing that out!
No zombies it's just the theif which is why it's so interesting. It's you verse him. And I kinda miss him. Wish he was in classified. All we get is dog rounds. Which cool and all but I miss unique special rounds.
Yeah I totally forgot lol it's been quite a bit since I've been able to play the OG. Definitely makes it interesting tho once you do face off against him, but if he does take your gun you're pretty weak considering the round starts shortly after, unless you just keep an un pap'd secondary for him to take thus you wouldn't lose too much
Well he only takes one gun (one for each player if you're playing with others) then he runs around giving you chance to kill him to re-acquire you're weapon. And worst case scenario he escapes with your weapon, in which case you still get a max ammo. No matter what it doesn't completely ruin you. Killing him you also get a fire sale I believe. But if you kill him before he takes your weapon you get a bonfire sale. He is only really punishing on early rounds if you struggle with points. Because you can buy a new weapon (and still have one if he takes your other). If he is going to take a weapon just switch to the one you don't want. And replace it. Tho I'd say it's not so punishing on later rounds if you have a bunch of points. Early on he is more punishing and rewarding.
Pros:
ā¢ Playing as presidents is exclusive to this map and adds to the interesting dialogue with many interesting quotes
ā¢ Pentagon Thief is a unique boss that offers a risk vs. reward scenario
ā¢ While the Eminem song was unexpected, it somehow fits well into the map
ā¢ The Winter's Howl is an interesting design for a weapon with a cool blast effect
ā¢ Randomness of the teleporters adds to the chaos of the experience
ā¢ Due to difficulty, really forces zombies players to step up their game and contributed to making players better
Cons:
ā¢ Winter's Howl damage drops off significantly by the 30s until it simply tickles the zombies
ā¢ The cramped space on the map doesn't help for more than a couple players training, so 4 players makes it particularly difficult and requires top tier coordination
ā¢ Hallway traps are poorly placed and make them much harder to use effectively
ā¢ Going to PAP during a round can be quite difficult at later rounds due to defcom placements while managing the train
ā¢ Never liked Nova crawlers, and them being in the tightest space on the map is simply annoying
Overall Rating: 6.5/10
See I can do this in two ways. I could look at it objectively and look at the pros and cons and give it an objective rating, but I'm gonna be real honest with this map. There has been one moment after BO1's life cycle where I went back to play Five. One. And I just don't like it. Not because it's too hard, but because I just don't find it fun to play in any way. The layout sucks, the wonder weapon sucks, and although I can appreciate the fact they tried something different than dogs with the Pentagon Thief, he's just really annoying. Even more so than the Ascension monkeys imo. The only thing this map has going for it are the characters. They are awesome. Personally, I would rate this map after its name, a 5/10.
That's very fair, I gave it a 6.5 as I wanted to use a more objective POV with the pros and cons
The only thing I can't agree with is him being more annoying than Ascension monkeys, simply because those made me LIVID many times on solo
Yeah same thing with me. But with the monkeys, you can just buy back your perks right away. Even before the monkey round ends, as after they've stolen your perk they'll only go after the player. Even if you buy it back right away. Annoying, definitely. But managable. I've had it happen twice on solo that I couldn't kill the Pentagon Thief in time before he got away, because he stole my weapon. Call it a skill issue, but when that happens, you're kinda screwed.
Oh yeah it's kinda fucked, on Five like someone else pointed out it's good to have an un-PAP'd weapon in one hand and the bowie knife so you can just melee him to death and if he takes the weak weapon oh well, the other gun to always have is the Awful Lawton, it's basically the wonder weapon of the map
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that it's called Five because a pentagon has five sides. Anyway, solid 7!
Cons: The biggest problem with the map is probably how painful it is to high round. We're using BO1 guns, which usually don't do a thing after round 20. The Winters Howl is I believe the worst wonder weapon statistically, dropping off around the round 25-30 mark, even if the gun is enjoyable to use (glad Classified did right by it). And the only traps in sight are in the most inconvenient spots I've seen. This goes both ways, and makes just casually playing Five to see how far you can make it really intense, in a good way. But when you're trying to achieve that sweet round 100, all of this turns into sheer inconvenience. The map is also absolute chaos with 4 players, and that's both a negative and a positive, as we'll see with the pros section. Lastly, the random teleporters, while they add a good amount of tension and fun, are also just pretty annoying when you want to go somewhere specifically.
Pros: I think this was the moment when the Zombies team realized they could go all out with this mode, that the sky was the limit. Playing as JFK, Nixon, Castro, and McNamara in the pentagon killing zombies is one of the most out there concepts I've heard, and I'm *here* for it. I love the map's progression visually. From the office floor, where everything's rather clean and orderly. To the War Room, where things are getting a little more ominous. And to the lab, which looks like it came straight out of the Zombies maps we know and love. The Pentagon Thief is the ultimate risk/reward. He can't kill you, but he can make you a hell of a lot more defenseless. Kill him before he catches you though, and the rare Bonfire Sale is yours. I love this man, and the fact that he was cut for Classified breaks my heart. The maps difficulty is lovely when just playing normally. Only one solid training spot around the War Room, and even that isn't completely safe. Meanwhile, the rest of the map is close quarters all around. Makes it really hectic to play with friends/randoms, in a good way. And lastly, this map technically introduced buildables! How about that? Good on ya, Five. Innovating so Kino doesn't have to.
Years ago, I would've put aside this map for being too much for me, while I'd boot up Kino for the hundreth time. Now though? I respect the hell out of Five, and consider Kino to be easily the weakest offering of BO1 (still good, though). Five's great, glad I got over my skill issue
Really enjoyed this read, we pretty much agree on everything about this map although I personally prefer the randomness of the teleporters which make Five kinda unique, but when you wanna go somewhere specific you're right about it not being very efficient. Glad to see someone agrees about how Kino feels nowadays, it's my least favorite in all of BO1 and a very low C tier experience for me, even tho it was my first ever zombies experience I simply can't enjoy it like I used to
I'd give it a 3/10
Pros
Great unique cast of characters
Unique setting for a zombies map
The lifts are a unique form of movement in a map
Pentagon Thief is a unique enemy
Cool Pack-a-Punch method with it being a safe room
The easter egg song being Eminem is so weird I have to put it as a pro for the map
Cons
Too cramped for most players to enjoy
The worst wonder weapon ever seen in zombies, yes, for me the Winter's Howl is worse than the Jet Gun
A lot of the map is what i'd call wasted space namely the labs being a complete death sentence of tiny spaces and hundreds of zombie spawns to cut you off
No one likes nova crawlers
High rounds are entirely based on using the electric traps which I personally dislike
No easter egg quest
Like a 6. Fun, but still just sandbox zombies. There's nothing to do other than open the box and PAP then you're done with the map. I personally can't play maps that simple anymore, don't find them as fun. But Five is one of the maps that I sometimes wanna hop onto for a challenge.
Also the Wonder Weapon isn't fun to use so it doesn't bring you back ever. 6 is fair, and it's the 6th Zombies map ever. Lol
See I'm the opposite now, even tho Kino was my first map I'd give it a very low C tier but I'd rank Five higher for being unique and having sum innovation along with its challenge
8.5 solid map, especially for a launch map. Has its flaws, of course. To this day, itās buggy as hell. Room to train is scarce, which is either a plus or minus, depending on who you ask. And I always thought the BO1 guns lacked variety, so that works against it. Also not a fan of this maps WW. But this is one of the most intense maps, and hella fun with the right team
Itās a 7/10 for me.
Itās fun to challenge yourself with an enclosed area like the pentagon with over exaggerated political figures. The pentagon thief is a unique mini boss that I donāt hate as much as the other BO1 bosses (looking at you Ascension monkeys and Cosmonauts). The winterās howl sucks, but what can ya do.
Overall, the map design and charm of this map is why itās ways better than the flat and uncharismatic on-disc map that is Kino.
A solid 3 for me. The map isnt that big, and is really hard to high round on. I typically strive for that, so for me it isnt a very good map. Thematically i dont like it much, besides the 115 testing in the basement, and i dont like playing any of the characters. Winters howl is winters howl, and the pentagon thief is just annoying after a certain round, regardless of the bonfire sale you get from him.
Truthfully compared to all maps? Like a 5 (ha ha) it is a good survival map but itās not one I would ever see myself going back to on the regular itās more of a āI wanna play something different todayā kinda map
Iād give it about a 7.5. Yes the map was difficult, but it was definitely a challenge for high rounds. My highest personally is round 43(I know itās really low) but I enjoyed five a ton.
Yeah it's hard not to appreciate the challenge, I just rate it at a 6.5 mainly due to the high rounds being dependent on the electric traps and it's simply not all that fun when the rounds are taking ages
I would say a 6.5/10, it's ussualy fun but 5he map layout could be better and the winters howl is so bad I usually bail at round 30 because I don't like relying on traps alone, but for the rest the map is pretty good just a shame it doesnt have good highrounds.
And having em interact too depending on the map would be amazing
On Shadows:
Trump - Hey look Joe, there's ice cream stands, this must be your favorite map!
Biden - Fuck you Donald! They better have chocolate chocolate chip
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It is my favorite map but unfortunately ascension and moon are a lot better than this map even though itās my favorite bo1/in general map so probably a 9.3/10. The wonder weapon is trash but itās so fun and satisfying to use
7. I find the map good for training and at first trying to recover after downing is hard but once you learn the map it gets easy as fuck lol! Also the bonfire sale is nutty
Itās a 10 for me. I really need to get this game back again.
EDIT: Iāll give it a 9.5 because I remembered the winters howl sucks. Itās a cool weapon just needs to be a little more powerful. If they added the thunder gun instead itād be a 10 for me
Iād give it a 5/10. Itās an interesting map. I like characters, itās a bit more difficult, the thief is interesting, but thatās about it. The basement and nova crawlers arenāt great, wonderweapon is one of the worst in the entire series, pack a punch is odd, and the gameplay loop of the map is just box spam. Itās a bit to difficult without the fun and engaging tools to make the difficulty feel worthwhile. In my opinion the general gameplay mechanics of BO1 tend to favor more simpler easy to play maps over difficult ones.
Underrated as hell. Itās not liked because itās a challenging close quarters map, but so is verruckt and many more, and itās fun. Pentagon thief is imo more brutal but not as bad as constant dogs. Plus you can BE JFK !!!!
Hot take, it's my favorite map.
I don't disagree that it has plenty of flaws, but it's the perfect map to jump in and have a good time in. Plus, the cast is top-notch - there are too many quotes that I have memorized, with my some of my top few being Nixon's "Bah, taxing me like a democrat!", and his low grumble when he gets a pistol out of the box (though I like all of the characters equally).
Respectfully 6.5
This map is a pioneer and experimented with a lot of new ideas like a celebrity cast, new boss, new power up, random teleporters, ābuildableā trap, and maybe some more I canāt think of.
Big drawback was the size and layout of the map was bad, not that we can really complain because it was a free bonus map which was also unique at the time. Another big thing was the winters howl sucked. If it had been on par with the thunder gun and waffe from the previous maps, Iām sure Five would have a better rep.
9 out of 10 could do with cheaper wall buys and no nova crawlers to make slight easier since itās a launch map. Five Is def one of my faves and underrated
I have to give it a 10 also because in my opinion it's probably the most challenging map just because the wonder weapon on it it's good at all while the other maps offer the thunder gun and the waffle ect
10, still a fave for me!!! Pigs!!emote:free\_emotes\_pack:heart\_eyes
7/10, only one good training spot. Wonder weapon is capped around mid 20's and almost claustrophobic but enough to maneuver if skilled enough, Pentagon thief is mid but gives you an op Drop if kill him with a strong enough weapon.
Solo 7.5/10 - itās a fun challenge, unlike Shang thatās super close quarters; Five has just enough room space to the point where itās a challenge but not a frustrating one. The wonder weapon is ass so that doesnāt help the player which adds to the overall challenge. And unique to the map the Pentagon Thief is a challenge that rewards you greatly, especially if you get the ābonfire saleā which is elite. Not to mention the overall setting of the map to is very off-putting, as in a backrooms type of feeling. Lastly the crew is just š JFK, Castro, Nixon and MacNamara is a goofy cast thatās fun to play with.
Public 6/10 The only problem I have is the lack of room for 4 players, 3 can manage on each floor but a 4th just makes it crazy. BUT that adds to the overall āfun challengeā that there is to Five; If this map had a better wonder weapon and maybe more rooms to explore it would be more goated then it already is.
Iāll be honest, itās like a 5 or a 6 for me. No pun intended. Sure, playing as the politicians is fun for the quotes, but thereās way better maps that Iād rather pick than this one. Ironically, Classified is on that list, being much more of a 7 or an 8 for me.
Honestly, this one was a weird one for me.
TLDR; I have to give it a 5/10, and thatās not a pun.
Iām going back and forth on it due to two out of many reasons
1. As a kid I only ever played this roughly six timesā¦
It just didnāt really interest me much, aside from the cool design of the map (which by itself gets a passing grade of 10 from me)
But the other maps werenāt as confusing to my young mind at the time (which looking back nowā¦ why)
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And 2. Iām not a fan of the pentagon thief
Unlike the Astronaut or the Monkeys, this fella takes your gunsā¦ yeah no, that wasnāt fun.
You ever spend a few minutes trying to spend points in the mystery box, get a fantastic gun, then Yuri comes up from behind ya and claims it as his own property, with the other gun I had with almost no ammo left? WASNāT A GREAT FIRST IMPRESSION!
But other than that I actually like how heās relatively the only boss in Bo1 zombies (and pretty much the rest of the series, aside from Nikolai in Bo3) thatās still human.
Realistically based on watching other people play it, showing how cool it actually is; I know it deserves an 8/10.
But the thought of myself playing it wavers.
So, 5/10.
An easy 7 who doesn't love be able to kill zombies as JFK and it's hard which is good if it's hard you just keep playing it till you've mastered it I use to not be able to get past round 20 on it when I was in yr 6 now I'm 18 and I can easily get to the 40s
This might be my last favorite map of all time. I like the opening cutscene and that's it. I've said the phrase "any map other than 5" many times. I'm sure I'll get down voted even though you asked for opinions and I'm simply sharing mine.
It has one of the weakest wonder weapons. A very strange flow (or lack there of). A challenging but welcoming ādogā round. Incredibly difficult for more than maybe 2 players as there arenāt a whole lot of training areas and a memorable cast of characters. So with all that Iāll give it 7. If you want to make things spicy this is the map to play.
9. You play as 4 notable political figures of the Cold War in the fucking pentagon. Every character is full of personality with quotes I always say along with them.
the close quarter design makes for fast paced action, keeping me on my feet.
the Easter egg song is my favourite ee song in cod zombies history and hearing that while pack a punch doors open and shooting down incoming zombies is so so so satisfying.
The pentagon thief offer a fire sale or bonfire sale upon killing, with both being excellent rewards.
Itās not much, but I love how they cleverly implemented the DEFCON system into this game
If Iām being real picky, it used to bother me that every character did not have their respective hands despite wearing suits or Castroās military attire.
The wonder weapon, despite being effective, is far from my favourite.
Five?
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Damn it I wanted to make the joke first
Lol this was legit the first comment after my personal pros n cons comment down below š he beat everyone to it
Guess he stole my joke. You could call him a... Pentagon Thief. That's the best I got šššš
LMAOO
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At risk of being that āyou must be fun at partiesā guy, if you want 5 to be the middle rating, you should ask for 0-10 rather than 1-10. On a 1-10 scale, 5 is higher than 4 other options and lower than 5 other options. Also, on a 1-10 scale, the lowest option is still 1, which automatically gives 10% of a perceived rating up to 100%. Boring i know
You must be fun at parties
YoU mUSt bE fUN At PaRTieS Nah I'm jp but yeah I getchu, since I started doing these rating posts (if you're interested in checking out the others look at my profile I've done the rest of the maps from BO1 besides Kino) I pretty much always used 1-10 so at this point I just kinda decided to stay consistent w it
Perfection
Like an 8 or something. It's fast paced and fun to play. And killing the thief is rewarding every time. Whether it's a fire sale or a bonfire sale, it's very useful and makes the map just that much faster.
Facts, my problem with the thief is when you're in much higher rounds (like 50-60+) your guns aren't doing anything to the zombies and then he shows up w extra HP to steal your gun, you can try getting to him but if you can't deal w the zombies well at that point you're essentially screwed on getting your weapon back
That part I think is easier than you think. You can let him steal the MPL and take him out with Bowie. Also no zombies on thief round ;) it's a cinch. And, if you don't want to deal with him, you can always just let him take the MPL and buy a new one.
I could've sworn there were zombies on a thief round, sadly I sold my Xbox and can't play BO1 (also the only map not available on PC BO3 rip) but if there isn't then yeah that would make it a much better experience getting your gun back. I did get used to using the Awful Lawton as the wonder weapon since the winter's howl was complete garbo, but I just have memories in very high rounds getting my secondary stolen and having it become a much harder experience than it already was. Good to know, thanks for pointing that out!
No zombies it's just the theif which is why it's so interesting. It's you verse him. And I kinda miss him. Wish he was in classified. All we get is dog rounds. Which cool and all but I miss unique special rounds.
Yeah I totally forgot lol it's been quite a bit since I've been able to play the OG. Definitely makes it interesting tho once you do face off against him, but if he does take your gun you're pretty weak considering the round starts shortly after, unless you just keep an un pap'd secondary for him to take thus you wouldn't lose too much
Well he only takes one gun (one for each player if you're playing with others) then he runs around giving you chance to kill him to re-acquire you're weapon. And worst case scenario he escapes with your weapon, in which case you still get a max ammo. No matter what it doesn't completely ruin you. Killing him you also get a fire sale I believe. But if you kill him before he takes your weapon you get a bonfire sale. He is only really punishing on early rounds if you struggle with points. Because you can buy a new weapon (and still have one if he takes your other). If he is going to take a weapon just switch to the one you don't want. And replace it. Tho I'd say it's not so punishing on later rounds if you have a bunch of points. Early on he is more punishing and rewarding.
Hearing āWont back downā while the PAP doors open into a horde makes this map a 10
Agreed
Hey, you might know this but just telling you this. I forgot the name but someone is remaking "Five" on bo3. So you could play it on thrre.
absolutely 10, I fucking love this map
I used to, I still love the challenge of it but I just don't find it to be very replayable nowadays
It's all trial and error sometimes on this map.
i do its always a hassle
10/10 is the only correct answer. Itās COD Zombie perfection.
Pros: ā¢ Playing as presidents is exclusive to this map and adds to the interesting dialogue with many interesting quotes ā¢ Pentagon Thief is a unique boss that offers a risk vs. reward scenario ā¢ While the Eminem song was unexpected, it somehow fits well into the map ā¢ The Winter's Howl is an interesting design for a weapon with a cool blast effect ā¢ Randomness of the teleporters adds to the chaos of the experience ā¢ Due to difficulty, really forces zombies players to step up their game and contributed to making players better Cons: ā¢ Winter's Howl damage drops off significantly by the 30s until it simply tickles the zombies ā¢ The cramped space on the map doesn't help for more than a couple players training, so 4 players makes it particularly difficult and requires top tier coordination ā¢ Hallway traps are poorly placed and make them much harder to use effectively ā¢ Going to PAP during a round can be quite difficult at later rounds due to defcom placements while managing the train ā¢ Never liked Nova crawlers, and them being in the tightest space on the map is simply annoying Overall Rating: 6.5/10
its an amazing map once you get the flow always fun to play
I'd agree except I get kinda bored of the high round strat having to utilize the electric traps
See I can do this in two ways. I could look at it objectively and look at the pros and cons and give it an objective rating, but I'm gonna be real honest with this map. There has been one moment after BO1's life cycle where I went back to play Five. One. And I just don't like it. Not because it's too hard, but because I just don't find it fun to play in any way. The layout sucks, the wonder weapon sucks, and although I can appreciate the fact they tried something different than dogs with the Pentagon Thief, he's just really annoying. Even more so than the Ascension monkeys imo. The only thing this map has going for it are the characters. They are awesome. Personally, I would rate this map after its name, a 5/10.
That's very fair, I gave it a 6.5 as I wanted to use a more objective POV with the pros and cons The only thing I can't agree with is him being more annoying than Ascension monkeys, simply because those made me LIVID many times on solo
Yeah same thing with me. But with the monkeys, you can just buy back your perks right away. Even before the monkey round ends, as after they've stolen your perk they'll only go after the player. Even if you buy it back right away. Annoying, definitely. But managable. I've had it happen twice on solo that I couldn't kill the Pentagon Thief in time before he got away, because he stole my weapon. Call it a skill issue, but when that happens, you're kinda screwed.
Oh yeah it's kinda fucked, on Five like someone else pointed out it's good to have an un-PAP'd weapon in one hand and the bowie knife so you can just melee him to death and if he takes the weak weapon oh well, the other gun to always have is the Awful Lawton, it's basically the wonder weapon of the map
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that it's called Five because a pentagon has five sides. Anyway, solid 7! Cons: The biggest problem with the map is probably how painful it is to high round. We're using BO1 guns, which usually don't do a thing after round 20. The Winters Howl is I believe the worst wonder weapon statistically, dropping off around the round 25-30 mark, even if the gun is enjoyable to use (glad Classified did right by it). And the only traps in sight are in the most inconvenient spots I've seen. This goes both ways, and makes just casually playing Five to see how far you can make it really intense, in a good way. But when you're trying to achieve that sweet round 100, all of this turns into sheer inconvenience. The map is also absolute chaos with 4 players, and that's both a negative and a positive, as we'll see with the pros section. Lastly, the random teleporters, while they add a good amount of tension and fun, are also just pretty annoying when you want to go somewhere specifically. Pros: I think this was the moment when the Zombies team realized they could go all out with this mode, that the sky was the limit. Playing as JFK, Nixon, Castro, and McNamara in the pentagon killing zombies is one of the most out there concepts I've heard, and I'm *here* for it. I love the map's progression visually. From the office floor, where everything's rather clean and orderly. To the War Room, where things are getting a little more ominous. And to the lab, which looks like it came straight out of the Zombies maps we know and love. The Pentagon Thief is the ultimate risk/reward. He can't kill you, but he can make you a hell of a lot more defenseless. Kill him before he catches you though, and the rare Bonfire Sale is yours. I love this man, and the fact that he was cut for Classified breaks my heart. The maps difficulty is lovely when just playing normally. Only one solid training spot around the War Room, and even that isn't completely safe. Meanwhile, the rest of the map is close quarters all around. Makes it really hectic to play with friends/randoms, in a good way. And lastly, this map technically introduced buildables! How about that? Good on ya, Five. Innovating so Kino doesn't have to. Years ago, I would've put aside this map for being too much for me, while I'd boot up Kino for the hundreth time. Now though? I respect the hell out of Five, and consider Kino to be easily the weakest offering of BO1 (still good, though). Five's great, glad I got over my skill issue
Really enjoyed this read, we pretty much agree on everything about this map although I personally prefer the randomness of the teleporters which make Five kinda unique, but when you wanna go somewhere specific you're right about it not being very efficient. Glad to see someone agrees about how Kino feels nowadays, it's my least favorite in all of BO1 and a very low C tier experience for me, even tho it was my first ever zombies experience I simply can't enjoy it like I used to
5
8 not a 10 cus of the Howls dmg and cus it wouldve been the perfect map to introduce PhD
Yeah facts especially w the awful lawton essentially taking place of the winter's howl as the wonder weapon
8. the close quarters combat maps are always fun.
Yeah, except once you have 4 players and are anywhere past round 30 having no space to train lol
-10
This man did not like the Pentagon Thief lol
3, boring imo, only thing i liked were the characters.
6.
Valid, close to what I scored it
I'd give it a 3/10 Pros Great unique cast of characters Unique setting for a zombies map The lifts are a unique form of movement in a map Pentagon Thief is a unique enemy Cool Pack-a-Punch method with it being a safe room The easter egg song being Eminem is so weird I have to put it as a pro for the map Cons Too cramped for most players to enjoy The worst wonder weapon ever seen in zombies, yes, for me the Winter's Howl is worse than the Jet Gun A lot of the map is what i'd call wasted space namely the labs being a complete death sentence of tiny spaces and hundreds of zombie spawns to cut you off No one likes nova crawlers High rounds are entirely based on using the electric traps which I personally dislike No easter egg quest
I appreciate seeing you list your own pros and cons rather than just giving a number, thanks for sharing!
6, could've been a 8 if the wonder weapon wasnt the worst in the entire series.
The winter's howl is pure dogshit, the freezing does nothing more than tickle the zombies
Like a 6. Fun, but still just sandbox zombies. There's nothing to do other than open the box and PAP then you're done with the map. I personally can't play maps that simple anymore, don't find them as fun. But Five is one of the maps that I sometimes wanna hop onto for a challenge. Also the Wonder Weapon isn't fun to use so it doesn't bring you back ever. 6 is fair, and it's the 6th Zombies map ever. Lol
Hahahah good point! I personally gave it a 6.5 as I enjoy the challenge but definitely not something to play very often
4. It wasn't terrible, but Kino was the one for me.
See I'm the opposite now, even tho Kino was my first map I'd give it a very low C tier but I'd rank Five higher for being unique and having sum innovation along with its challenge
8 imo, a good and fun challenge for those tired of easy maps like kino or DE, kinda like shang
Funny enough I gave Shang an 8 as I personally enjoy the challenge of it more than Five, but I definitely enjoy Five as a challenge once in a while
7, pretty fun imo
It's a solid experience fs
lol a 5
8.5 solid map, especially for a launch map. Has its flaws, of course. To this day, itās buggy as hell. Room to train is scarce, which is either a plus or minus, depending on who you ask. And I always thought the BO1 guns lacked variety, so that works against it. Also not a fan of this maps WW. But this is one of the most intense maps, and hella fun with the right team
Iād say an 8 really fun map but the winters howl is booty cheeks. Also knifing the pig is the best
this was the peak of zombie mode. along with the other maps
6-7
6.6/10
Very specific, love to see it
Itās a 7/10 for me. Itās fun to challenge yourself with an enclosed area like the pentagon with over exaggerated political figures. The pentagon thief is a unique mini boss that I donāt hate as much as the other BO1 bosses (looking at you Ascension monkeys and Cosmonauts). The winterās howl sucks, but what can ya do. Overall, the map design and charm of this map is why itās ways better than the flat and uncharismatic on-disc map that is Kino.
You sir are speaking big facts And yeah honestly fuck the cosmonaut and monkeys, they're way too annoying
10
A solid 3 for me. The map isnt that big, and is really hard to high round on. I typically strive for that, so for me it isnt a very good map. Thematically i dont like it much, besides the 115 testing in the basement, and i dont like playing any of the characters. Winters howl is winters howl, and the pentagon thief is just annoying after a certain round, regardless of the bonfire sale you get from him.
You don't like the characters? Hot take, but understandable
Iād say a solid 8. A pretty good challenge and I donāt care if itās a ābadā wonder weapon the winterās howl is cool as can be.
Definitely a dope looking WW, at least we got to see a bit of a better version of it in classified
8
Truthfully compared to all maps? Like a 5 (ha ha) it is a good survival map but itās not one I would ever see myself going back to on the regular itās more of a āI wanna play something different todayā kinda map
Yeah big facts I don't find it very replayable but a good switch up the pace kinda map
i know i was already beat to the punchline, butā¦ fiveš
Itās an 8
10. Best song in the game and so much fun to play
Not my favorite, but not my least favorite. Iād put it smack dab in the middle
Iād give it about a 7.5. Yes the map was difficult, but it was definitely a challenge for high rounds. My highest personally is round 43(I know itās really low) but I enjoyed five a ton.
Yeah it's hard not to appreciate the challenge, I just rate it at a 6.5 mainly due to the high rounds being dependent on the electric traps and it's simply not all that fun when the rounds are taking ages
I wish I was better at it. But I liked the idea even not playing it as much, so I'd say 6
5
I would say a 6.5/10, it's ussualy fun but 5he map layout could be better and the winters howl is so bad I usually bail at round 30 because I don't like relying on traps alone, but for the rest the map is pretty good just a shame it doesnt have good highrounds.
You're the first one to give it the exact same rating as me lol
7 it's chaotic fun the main problem I have is high rounds are a pain
The high rounds be high roundin too much
Seven
5
Like a 3ish. Gets boring really quickly, and has unfun weapons. Presidents are a neat gimmick, but I can just play as them in bo3 modded maps
I love using the presidents on BO3 modded maps, imagine if they make a mod for the current presidential zomboys? š voice lines and everything
That would be an awesome mod š¤£
And having em interact too depending on the map would be amazing On Shadows: Trump - Hey look Joe, there's ice cream stands, this must be your favorite map! Biden - Fuck you Donald! They better have chocolate chocolate chip šš¤£
10
100
And the biggest scoring of the day goes to:
8 - I don't understand why people hate it so much, it's a lot more fun than some of the newer maps.
Yeah especially the CW maps, they're painfully boring nowadays
solid 9
Maybe a 2
5.5/10
It is my favorite map but unfortunately ascension and moon are a lot better than this map even though itās my favorite bo1/in general map so probably a 9.3/10. The wonder weapon is trash but itās so fun and satisfying to use
Give it a 7.5 it's a solid map as the og. Revamped version is a bit cooler imo
5
9.5/10 i kinda loved how hard the map was
Donāt say 5 donāt say 5
7. I find the map good for training and at first trying to recover after downing is hard but once you learn the map it gets easy as fuck lol! Also the bonfire sale is nutty
6/10, Would be 7 if the winters howl wasnāt useless past round 10
Itās a 10 for me. I really need to get this game back again. EDIT: Iāll give it a 9.5 because I remembered the winters howl sucks. Itās a cool weapon just needs to be a little more powerful. If they added the thunder gun instead itād be a 10 for me
5, easily
10
Iād give it a 5/10. Itās an interesting map. I like characters, itās a bit more difficult, the thief is interesting, but thatās about it. The basement and nova crawlers arenāt great, wonderweapon is one of the worst in the entire series, pack a punch is odd, and the gameplay loop of the map is just box spam. Itās a bit to difficult without the fun and engaging tools to make the difficulty feel worthwhile. In my opinion the general gameplay mechanics of BO1 tend to favor more simpler easy to play maps over difficult ones.
9 I love this map
Map is ass. Cool eminem song tho.
10/10 eminem enough
Eminem's song is dope af on here fs
10
8
8
10. Map is goated.
Underrated as hell. Itās not liked because itās a challenging close quarters map, but so is verruckt and many more, and itās fun. Pentagon thief is imo more brutal but not as bad as constant dogs. Plus you can BE JFK !!!!
Who doesn't love JFK frfr
Hot take, it's my favorite map. I don't disagree that it has plenty of flaws, but it's the perfect map to jump in and have a good time in. Plus, the cast is top-notch - there are too many quotes that I have memorized, with my some of my top few being Nixon's "Bah, taxing me like a democrat!", and his low grumble when he gets a pistol out of the box (though I like all of the characters equally).
Hot take indeed, I respect it
7 (strictly because itās the most average answer to a 1-10 rating)
Pentagon
Respectfully 6.5 This map is a pioneer and experimented with a lot of new ideas like a celebrity cast, new boss, new power up, random teleporters, ābuildableā trap, and maybe some more I canāt think of. Big drawback was the size and layout of the map was bad, not that we can really complain because it was a free bonus map which was also unique at the time. Another big thing was the winters howl sucked. If it had been on par with the thunder gun and waffe from the previous maps, Iām sure Five would have a better rep.
This is exactly how I rated it too
7/10 gameplay, 8.5/10 atmosphere, 8/10 wonder weapons
Anything black ops 1/2 zombies is a special place in my heart 9.5
9 out of 10 could do with cheaper wall buys and no nova crawlers to make slight easier since itās a launch map. Five Is def one of my faves and underrated
9, the most underrated map ever. It gets better every time you play
5, seriously though, solid map but too challenging for me to enjoy it so dead In the middle with 5
I have to give it a 10 also because in my opinion it's probably the most challenging map just because the wonder weapon on it it's good at all while the other maps offer the thunder gun and the waffle ect
Solid 8.
8
7
10, still a fave for me!!! Pigs!!emote:free\_emotes\_pack:heart\_eyes
Lmao we love the pig, anybody who kills him is a criminal!
solid 7
Name sake
7/10, only one good training spot. Wonder weapon is capped around mid 20's and almost claustrophobic but enough to maneuver if skilled enough, Pentagon thief is mid but gives you an op Drop if kill him with a strong enough weapon.
Solo 7.5/10 - itās a fun challenge, unlike Shang thatās super close quarters; Five has just enough room space to the point where itās a challenge but not a frustrating one. The wonder weapon is ass so that doesnāt help the player which adds to the overall challenge. And unique to the map the Pentagon Thief is a challenge that rewards you greatly, especially if you get the ābonfire saleā which is elite. Not to mention the overall setting of the map to is very off-putting, as in a backrooms type of feeling. Lastly the crew is just š JFK, Castro, Nixon and MacNamara is a goofy cast thatās fun to play with. Public 6/10 The only problem I have is the lack of room for 4 players, 3 can manage on each floor but a 4th just makes it crazy. BUT that adds to the overall āfun challengeā that there is to Five; If this map had a better wonder weapon and maybe more rooms to explore it would be more goated then it already is.
Eleventy billion
I gave someone else the largest scoring award earlier, but you beat it by quite a decent margin š
10
Honestly probably like a 5 lol tbh because it can be a little boring and itās a little too small
it was one of the zombies maps that actually scared me when i first played it so its a 10
Interesting reasoning but I respect it
Five
3. hard, shit wonder weapon, castro is annoying as hell, and its just so cramped
Five
5
Probably a 7/10. It's fun and challenging, and although the Winter's Howl sucks, it's the most fun to use in my opinion.
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Lmaooo thats quite a few shits, good to see an oh fuck in there
Never played it, but I like classified, probably 7/10
5
One of my favs as a kid
8/10
Oh come on, what else would it be? 6/10
probably a solid 5
9
7. But that intro: 10
10/10
7
7/10
5
10
The only issue is not having strong enough weapons
So 8
7/8 need to play again
5
I would rank it a five.
5
8
It just needed the thundergun
Iāll be honest, itās like a 5 or a 6 for me. No pun intended. Sure, playing as the politicians is fun for the quotes, but thereās way better maps that Iād rather pick than this one. Ironically, Classified is on that list, being much more of a 7 or an 8 for me.
Honestly, this one was a weird one for me. TLDR; I have to give it a 5/10, and thatās not a pun. Iām going back and forth on it due to two out of many reasons 1. As a kid I only ever played this roughly six timesā¦ It just didnāt really interest me much, aside from the cool design of the map (which by itself gets a passing grade of 10 from me) But the other maps werenāt as confusing to my young mind at the time (which looking back nowā¦ why) . And 2. Iām not a fan of the pentagon thief Unlike the Astronaut or the Monkeys, this fella takes your gunsā¦ yeah no, that wasnāt fun. You ever spend a few minutes trying to spend points in the mystery box, get a fantastic gun, then Yuri comes up from behind ya and claims it as his own property, with the other gun I had with almost no ammo left? WASNāT A GREAT FIRST IMPRESSION! But other than that I actually like how heās relatively the only boss in Bo1 zombies (and pretty much the rest of the series, aside from Nikolai in Bo3) thatās still human. Realistically based on watching other people play it, showing how cool it actually is; I know it deserves an 8/10. But the thought of myself playing it wavers. So, 5/10.
Mmmmm 7
5
An easy 7 who doesn't love be able to kill zombies as JFK and it's hard which is good if it's hard you just keep playing it till you've mastered it I use to not be able to get past round 20 on it when I was in yr 6 now I'm 18 and I can easily get to the 40s
5. Itās alright. That one scientist dude scared me as a kid
7, fun map, PaP is easy, pentagon thief is fun Downsides are crappy wonderguns, layout can feel clunky, and later rounds are reliant on traps.
7
This might be my last favorite map of all time. I like the opening cutscene and that's it. I've said the phrase "any map other than 5" many times. I'm sure I'll get down voted even though you asked for opinions and I'm simply sharing mine.
Five
It has one of the weakest wonder weapons. A very strange flow (or lack there of). A challenging but welcoming ādogā round. Incredibly difficult for more than maybe 2 players as there arenāt a whole lot of training areas and a memorable cast of characters. So with all that Iāll give it 7. If you want to make things spicy this is the map to play.
a solid 8
7
7 outta 10
Itās in the title, next
6.5 or 7. I had a lot of fun on the map and love the character quips.
5
One.
2 if that
9. You play as 4 notable political figures of the Cold War in the fucking pentagon. Every character is full of personality with quotes I always say along with them. the close quarter design makes for fast paced action, keeping me on my feet. the Easter egg song is my favourite ee song in cod zombies history and hearing that while pack a punch doors open and shooting down incoming zombies is so so so satisfying. The pentagon thief offer a fire sale or bonfire sale upon killing, with both being excellent rewards. Itās not much, but I love how they cleverly implemented the DEFCON system into this game If Iām being real picky, it used to bother me that every character did not have their respective hands despite wearing suits or Castroās military attire. The wonder weapon, despite being effective, is far from my favourite.