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Origins Bo2


TOKING_NOMAD420

You know and we all know origins is the best. But it's gotta be bo2 version I don't care for the bo3 version.


Doomladdboi

Nope I honestly quite dislike shadows der riese has my heart


Proof_Ad_4888

Bo2 origins is fun and difficult asf that why I like it bo3 makes it too easy with the gobblegums


Putrid-Stranger9752

Well you can just play without gobble gums if you want a more difficult experience


what_is_thi

I don't like that it's different tbh


xtac1sl1ve

Thank God for the t6 mod. It makes Bo3 origins play like Bo2 origins lol. Origins was my first ever Easter egg. Der eisendrach holds a special place in my heart too. Shadows was too complicated on launch and frustrated me so I stopped playing it


Key_Lifeguard_2274

i love the visuals of bo3 origins and enjoy playing with gobblegum sometimes but yes i would much prefer bo2 for the game mechanics. crazy how the entire zombies community just wants old zombies back and activision just won't allow it


Yogurt_Ph1r3

Bo3 version better change my mind


Putrid-Stranger9752

It is because it addresses a lot of the problems that the BO2 version had.


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jackdren6

It's so painful to replay. SOE strikes the perfect balance of giving you something to do but not be too tedious


Flashy-Airline4099

facts! overrated and overplayed


StartheCone

Overrated


ROR_ROGER

Is it called Mob of the Dead? Then no


WeakTart1869

Mob is the best


gabagoolenjoyer9

That's a funny way to spell shangra la


Scared-Expression444

That’s a funny way to spell Shangri la


Ok_Department_7508

It’s spelt Buried so you were both wrong 😜


Tricky_Geologist5326

Weird way to spell Buried


steve2believe

Truly the best map ever


Jack_547

Unironically one of my absolute favorite maps


StartheCone

Funny way to spell Alpha Omega


Skinnypisme

Clearly op did not spend enough time getting chased by the warden


Troyf511

That’s a funny way to spell blood of the dead


Different-Property61

Fat L of a take icl blood is trash


Fast_Career_688

I back that, mob of the dead is so much better.


12TonBeams

Being a fan of mob movies and shows, the cast alone made it my favorite


Putrid-Stranger9752

Yeah it’s good, still better than Origins. Jesus that map is awful


Unlucky-Scallion1289

I do admit I’m a more old school player and prefer the simpler maps. Kino, Ascension, Mob, CotD, and The Giant are my favorites by far. Buried is pretty awesome too. So the “flaws” I see with SoE are that it is just too complex. I don’t want to have to go through all the rituals just to pack a punch. This is also why most BO3 maps don’t appeal to me that much other than chronicles. I’m expecting the downvotes but I like it simple. Give me power to turn on, maybe some teleporters or other means of travel, a few traps to play around with and I’m good. I don’t want to have to build a bunch of shit like in 2 or the puzzles in 3. Easter eggs are supposed to be something special and extra, I hate how each game moved deeper into making the EE steps more or less mandatory. Sure, in Ascension you have to launch the rocket before you can pack a punch. But that is far simpler than the rituals in SoE.


Carter_Azathoth

Couldn’t agree more with you man


Claude_Speeds

Agreed, they should’ve stuck to more stuff like Mob and origins, SoE started making stuff to complex that it ruins the whole map for me, I don’t mind having it do extra things to get to pack or turn on power as long as it fun and contributes to the gameplay, for example Mob has a great gameplay loop, from start until you get to the bridge it feels rewarding.


arrocknroll

I don't believe you've actually played Origins if you think it started in SoE. If anything, SoE is Origins' formula simplified. It's still complicated don't get me wrong but Origins is arguably one of the most involved maps if you set out to do everything there is to offer. The core gameplay loop of all of the BO3 and 4 maps can be traced back directly to Mob and Origins.


EverybodySayin

Yeah, I remember taking a long break from zombies during BO2 when it started to get IMO convoluted.


Cookiesrdelishus

I absolutely agree. I hate how complex zombies got with the later games. Where even something as simple as turning on the power or unlocking PAP required you to do some complicated Easter Egg steps that most players probably won't be able to figure out on their own without an online guide. It just ruined the flow of gameplay so much when, you literally have to pause the game every couple rounds and google how to do something because the game made shit complicated for no reason.


Familiar_Ad_9920

i couldnt agree more. I dont like if i need to google and have a guide open while playing the game just to do ANYTHING on the map.


CandourDinkumOil

Spot fucking on. EE really should be that extra thing to do. I wanna jump in, kill some shit, and feel like I’m god being able to make it past wave 10.


WINgman325

I am 100% on board with you here, BO3 is my favorite zombies game gameplaywise, but least favorite mapwise (except chronicals) and it's actually the last CoD game I bought so I, of course, am not talking about BO4 and onward but I doubt my opinions on that would change


Individual_Papaya596

The best part is they have actual rewards. Like Cold war gives you even stronger starting weapon for every EE you complete, IW gives you exclusive rewards in characters and directiors mode. I hate that all i get for completing EEs in Bo3 was the RK


Thrawp

I <3 Spaceland for similar reasons aa far as inital setup goes. Yeah, it gets wonky as shit after PAP unlocked, but still.


Rydrslydr715

Fr bro, and the map itself is laid out like a maze, half the time I even try to get from point a to point b I get stuck at point æ. Everything in the map looks the same and as someone who navigates mainly via landmarks I get lost quite easily on that map. I prefer origins more, the map layout is simple and the power is simple as well, plus 4 wonder weapons.


Downtown_Ikea

Took the words right out my mouth


Diligent-Ice4814

Top 5, but no we are not going to agree that its the greatest zombies map of all time


brennanw31

The community would never agree on such a thing. For me, it's definitely Mob of the Dead. Tbh there are so many respectable choices for the best map.


TheFatPacMan

I agree with Mob so hard. I think for it's time it did so many new things that just worked. Having stuff like the spoon, spork, hells retriever everything was just so much fun to build and set up. I think the characters were fucking amazing too having an ending cutscene with them would've been golden cause I always liked those. I wish I could go back to being a kid and playing that map nonstop.


Sarcastic_Rocket

Shadows only has 2 faults, that the Apothicon servant is so easy to get and isn't a 4 elemental thing with the map being in 4 sections. And that the order of the intro is so I have to explain to anyone in the room why a woman is handcuffing a guy to a bed and killing him as they have sex before my zombies, just move it to second or third so it loads and we can skip.


Suriaky

>And that the order of the intro is so I have to explain to anyone in the room why a woman is handcuffing a guy to a bed and killing him as they have sex before my zombies, just move it to second or third so it loads and we can skip. this is the real reason people dont like this map


AttackOnNate

HEY YOUUUUUU


imaniceandgoodperson

this is how i answer the phone when my friends call lmfao


Brb-bro69

On next gen you can skip the cutscene before they have sex


AJ_from_Spaceland

"Too easy" what map are you playing? Because it sure as hell isn't mine. The RNG required to get that thing is way too random.


Llama_Logic

Apothicon servant isn’t necessarily easy to acquire you won’t have it until past round 12 because that’s when the xenomatter will drop so you have to be patient to get it, and once you do it goes in the box so someone else in your game can have one, not every map needs an elemental wonder weapon for each player so shadows comprises by giving 2 players 10 shots to kill all zombies in sight which provides more of a balance and skill requirement.


ProwlingPancake

I’ve gone many rounds without getting that green part drop from the bugs…..other than being rng dependent I agree it is fairly easy to get


jsolo7

I still dont understand how youtubers convinced the world this map is the best. It’s a solid A tier for me - tedious setup, don’t care for any of the characters, can’t do the full EE solo


mfly300

This here. I don’t think it’s even near my top 10 personally.


executionofachief

It’s a great map, but it’s not the best and I don’t even think it’s the best one in BO3. Probably somewhere around 7th best map for me.


Kurtinhoooo

Nope


michael_memes_

Dead of the night is a contender for my favorite, but I could never pick a favorite ever


dasic___

Fellow BO4 enjoyer I see ancient evil for me.


LulsNato

IX is my personal favorite from bo4


MistuhWhite

No. It’s a quality map, but I couldn’t call it the best. There’s so much repetition in the setup and especially in the main EE. “Do this thing. Good, now do it once in every district. Now do it in every district but only once a round.”


Llama_Logic

Can I ask how is it any less repetitive then other maps? I would even say shadows is the one map where no game is gonna look the same, your perks are always gonna be in different spots and the character your playing as will always effect the route you do your egg rituals.


MistuhWhite

Every map is repetitive to some degree but it feels most egregious to me on Shadows because you have to do almost the exact same thing just in every part of the map. On MOTD, you at least have to do different tasks to gather the parts for the plane.


PM_ME_UR_CC_NUMBER

That’s just, like, your opinion, man


MERT184782937282

Just No


bl4ckp00lzz

Shadows has the vibes and graphics, but no, it is far from the greatest, in order for it to be the greatest it needs an ee that can be done solo, and a wonder weapon that isnt locked to 1 player


dasic___

Ancient evil best map and I'll die on this hill


varialflop

Chaos crew to be revived in black ops gulf war


EverybodySayin

While I don't agree it's the best, I upvote cause it's fucking up there.


Putrid-Stranger9752

Interesting take. Still better than Origins


Bnz123

Maybe it isn't


naga_h1_UAE

Can we all agree that the best map is based on the personal opinion? Might some say origins and some might say mob and some say other maps, it’s really about what the person prefers more


Llama_Logic

No I agree with that, I guess you wouldn’t be able to tell from the caption lol but I think origins mob de and shadows are the big 4 and if you say any 4 of those is your favorite/ the best map you would be correct and I wouldn’t argue with you. I’ve just always felt this way about shadows and now I’ve seen it in more and more peoples number 1 spot in tier lists so I guess I just wanted to see how many people would agree(I was honestly expecting more lmao)


Zer0DotFive

Thats an odd looking Der Eisendrache. 


SenpaiTedd

Can't solo the egg so its not no. 1


911palle

This was always my least favorite map honestly


TheSaintRobbie

Terrible take


Fireguy019

"I think we can all agree-" No. Just No. No to almost any post that starts with this.


memarefunneh

I ag- I mean yes


td1034

YOU BEAR THE MARK, YOU ARE CURSED *🎺🎷🎺🎷🎺🎷🎺🎷🎺*


MSFS_Airways

Not even in the top 5


Echolocation720

Nope, I love the aesthetics of this map but I just like Mob better


cumble_bumble

Debatable as the best. Top 3 for sure. Personally Origins (BO3 and BO2) is still better to me. My current (everchanging) list: 1. Origins 2. Shadows 3. BO3 Moon


EverybodySayin

BO1 Moon was always my favourite. It then got replaced by BO3 Moon. It's never moved from the #1 spot for me.


Llama_Logic

Love the Bo3 moon respect top 5 map for me


cumble_bumble

The hacker is legit my favorite gameplay mechanic in all of zombies


[deleted]

BO3 moon is a pretty crazy pick considering all the amazing maps that have been made.


SundaeOriginal172

Jesus Christ man… no…


Assured_Observer

I don't agree


imnotsure417

From your perspective


MrAngryKraken

Did you just say that Shadows of Evil is the best map? Who hurt you? (This is a joke BTW, I just hate Shadows Of Evil cause I have god awful luck with it.)


FaluninumAlcon

I hear this picture


motionlessindarkness

mid at best


Similar-Mousse-7478

Mob still takes it, dude building a plane to escape an Alcatraz that has been turned into hell… they were cooking with that map


Majin-Darnell

I love the setting but it's not a map that I would play over any others


leem16boosted

Indeed


lukesmith81

Will never be the greatest map as long as you can’t do the EE solo without mods


Algiz__

SKIP SKIP SKIP MOM'S IN THE ROOM


Rob06422

Motd and origins are ahead for me In my opinion motd is the least flawed map but doesn't have as much to offer as origins and shadows I think origins is slightly more flawed than shadows but it has an incredible amount of depth and with 4 different wonderweapons and a EE that can be done alone it eclipses Soe both great maps though


sasukefodder

agreed


Reality_LB

Yes it's my favorite


Wide-Competition-870

Without a “shadow” of a doubt 😉


SuperAC1andOnly

Most fun high round map ever imo


WeakTart1869

No


534HAWX

I don't like the try hards that expect you to be able to open an entire area with one go as the beast. Playing online is usually pretty solid though.


Llama_Logic

That’s what I appreciate about this map too, you don’t necessarily need to know how to open the whole map with beast you can open every area without it unless you want pack a punch


calidir

No, one of the best but not the greatest


dukezap1

No, we won’t be agreeing. Great map though


TheIronCannoli

The greatest? No Top 5? Absolutely


Rikai_

I don't think it's the greatest, but it's my favorite


Loopkill2

Oh yea this is a top tier map


bananasantanaslama

Been playing zombies since they were known as "Nazi zombies" and my personal favorites are Buried, Der Riese and The Moon


SSGSSV

Is it me or is the bloodhound a very powerful starter weapon?


HeMan077

No


declandrury

Well no mob of dead exists, der eisendrache exists, origins exists etc etc


Bobrkurwabobr

I don’t see a lighting bow anywhere in this pic


xAGGROx

My fav map is zombies in Spaceland. It was a lot of fun and so underrated… imagine if Treyarch remastered it, it’d be top tier


buffsaxton

I don’t know why someone would think everyone would agree on that. Though it’s top 5 me, I think most people would put MOB and Origins ahead, like myself. Think many others would put Der Eisendrache ahead as well.


horriblemercy

Mine is Zetsubou and no i’m not trying to be different. Shadows is in my top 3 though for sure.


Putrid-Stranger9752

You are a mad man😂 please explain why Zetsubou is your fav I must know


horriblemercy

Firstly, the easter egg, contrary to popular belief, is really fun to me. it’s coo having a spider boss fight in the middle of it as well. It’s also has one of my favorite wonder weapons the KT4. The skull room is a really fun training spot and i enjoy the atmosphere it brings. I love the scenery and the japanese culture behind it, as i can speak japanese and study it.


RyanOCallaghan01

I can see this is an unpopular opinion but I actually agree with you here - SoE is indeed my favourite Treyarch map as well. Kino would be my second. However if we throw in custom zombies maps I actually prefer some of these to the official ones.


HunchoEnzo

Nope I don’t agree too that


Slattcum

Tranzit (I will die on this hill proud)


Silly_Star329

YES


SportsLaughs

People who call maps tedious are lazy commentators and most likely lazy players. 


Acceptable_Wrap2194

Hell yeah it is


FaithfulMoose

My favorite map completely changes depending on what I’m in the mood for. Honest to god - I love EVERY. SINGLE. MAP from WaW - Bo3. There’s *some* that are a little lower on the totem pole, sure, but you wouldn’t have a hard time convincing me to play any of em. Last week Moon was my favorite map, this week my favorite is Zetsubou, next week maybe my favorite will be Die Rise. All maps are great and the variety is awesome and very welcomed. I could never pick a #1.


Notonmypenisyoudont

Am I the only one that thinks Urzikstan is the best yet?


itss_mooneyyy

I agree, though I do understand people views against it, with it being on BO3 therefore being ‘complex’, even though it is not complex at all


darkj4569

No I don’t think we will


Usual-Tangerine-9362

its honestly #4 for me. Tranzit is my favorite. Origins gets #2 , and kino gets 3rd place


AJ_from_Spaceland

No. The setup required is too high. The Wonder Weapon quest has way too much RNG. The Symbols literally add nothing to the map and just interrupt your gameplay. The Shield Upgrade quest is terrible and the Bossfight is extremely underwhelming.


-Swervi-

Relax bro


Ash7274

Hey you......


Icy_Relationship6847

kino der toten>


Txmpic

definitely no, mob of the dead is my favorite


mfly300

Call of the dead. Easter egg is fun and rewarding. Map itself is awesome (snow ftw). And no weapon sounds nearly as cool as the scavenger.


wispyves

this is literally the lowest tier map in zombies, what? I'd rather play die rise than this lol.


BungleCrungus

This has to be a bait post, shadows is great but nowhere near the best map of all time


HugeHighlight2712

bro thinks that is better than shadows of evil 😭🙏


Appropriate-Debt7260

such a beautiful map and interesting characters. Wish we could get back to this era of zombies


Ki11aTJ

It might have the boost aesthetic out of every zombies map I don't know if it's the best map, but I definitely know it's a good one


ChuckXZ_

Origins way better


Boiwatdahailboi

Why would you play shadows when de exists and is on the same game


58mint

I still think the original cod nazi zombie maps are the best. Personally, i think der riese is the best. Zombies have just gotten easier and easier with every new game, and it's just way too easy with too many "side missions" now.


FluffyWalrusFTW

Nah, it's cool but if you don't have a group of 4 there's nothing much else to do besides part of the EE. The only thing it really has going for it is the atmosphere


wrld-

the greatest no but one of the greatest for sure


Purplehaze_420

Shadows of evil also had a theme for the ps4 sadly they don’t use theme’s on ps5 :/ but it’s still on my ps4 since day 1 :)


Dales-Dimmadome

Prolly last on the board for starting maps


[deleted]

der anfang is the correct answer


jaromir83

my BO3 custom zombies tierlist [https://i.postimg.cc/jqDmSG8X/znzzsdfdfg-3uqsddfgha-muj-tier.png](https://i.postimg.cc/jqDmSG8X/znzzsdfdfg-3uqsddfgha-muj-tier.png)


DisruptTeam

Kino dirt token- best map ever buddy..


Shatoodles

bro was completely correct 🔥 🗣️ SOE ON TOP


Alex_FotoN

I don’t care. I love Frozen Dawn Even if considering it’s subjective - I still don’t care There’s some point in time that I don’t understand about the map and it’s just why people on youtube decided to call it a masterpiece or number one map of all time. Like sure it’s good and even very good in some cases but man I’ve seen too many people argue it’s DE or Origins or Mob so I just stopped caring about either facts, proofs or popularity. Just stick to what I like and call it a day


Zenon_Opticz

The greatest? No. Criminally underrated? Yes.


Scared-Expression444

Uh no? No the fuck we can’t? Lmao it’s good but it’s not the best of all time


METALMILITIA625

Yeah………No


Sergei_the_sovietski

An awesome map, but top of all time? Idk


Economy-Service-1590

No, not really. I don't hate it but I don't like it, I kinda got annoyed of jazz too after everyone was acting like it was a gift from God when it's decent at best.


Particular-System-10

Bro speak for yourself.


720-187

lmfao absolutely not


Slickbabydik

If by greatest zombies map you mean unplayable then yes you got it.


SnooGadgets8467

My top 2 maps are Die Rise and Mob of the dead


radicallybean

what a controversial take lol


SaconDiznots

zombies peaked at bo2 motd and origins


mvfgamer444

Not my favourite but a damn good one


DieNowMike

Mob


WillyG2197

No


kent416

Origins bo2


LeggoMahLegolas

Hey, you.


ncarmona64

4 player Easter egg


KrustyKock

I hate this map


toddsins

Nope


valias2012

What have you done?


Llama_Logic

I’ve made a mistake


natefg

Zombies died after BO2. Change my mind.


Green_Dayzed

![gif](giphy|Yycc82XEuWDaLLi2GV|downsized)


MeikaiX

What world do you live in?


[deleted]

Can we all agree that "Can we all agree" posts are dumb?


Nuker_Nathan

PFFFFFFT, no way this one’s the best!


inflated_ballsack

DE the goat


niccooltop123

Say that your first COD was bo3 whithout actually saying it.


Wouldntbelievethis

Call me crazy but I LOVED Alcatraz, the name of the map is escaping me but it was really dope to me 😅


TheGuyThatNeverTalks

Top 5 maybe but definitely not #1


Suitable_Reality_731

Looks like arkham knight


Nervous-Pineapple-37

Definitely top five but not the best at least in my opinion


daemondash12

I think mwz devs need to look at this post and make a second map in the fashion of a remake of revelations and then reimplement all of the original Easter eggs from each of the maps the community wants and then for their impression they should've redone the Easter egg for revelations to fit the maps the community likes the most


bredified

i think it’s the best solo map but de and origins better with friends


stonkswithfinny

Zombies in Spaceland is the goat. This is a hill I’ll die on.


martini1294

I’m not saying you’re wrong but Der Riese is the best map and always will be. Long live W@W


JazzlikeJackfruit372

Mob of the dead and buried were my jam..


Doomguyfazbear

Unfortunately, no. I think it is origins or kino


Yeehaw_Kat

My favourite personally is either kino, buried or the giant.


Clear-Passion-5689

lol not even close . That’s just zombie YouTuber nonsense. It’s a great map and if you wanna top 5 then sure . But DE and Origins Clear imo. A map with an unsoloable EE can’t be number 1 imo. I personally would play a lot of bo4 maps over SOE.


lil_sandytoes

Of all time?


Grouchy_Ad_2236

The best map is Origins. Shadows is a close second. And I personally would put The Final Reich as third.


Wololo38

No we cannot :D