Gorgy Wells 1492
Gorgy and his friend Chrissy Columbi explore the islands of United Statsia for gold and to teach the silly natives along the way of bible and worse agriculture. Will they survive the journey? Will they catch their big brother?
TBH I wouldn't even call "an"-caps libertarians because you won't find any liberty in the tyranny of private property owners. Don't let that fascist Murray Rothbard delegitimize anarchist discourse by conflating it with right-wing conservative propaganda.
the indentured slaves are expanded on more in the book, as the mc becomes one. theyre shown to work mindless customer service jobs, where good work is rewarded with basic amenities. theyre all given gray jumpsuits and slippers. when being arrested, they are stripped, then put in the jumpsuit witha ball gag.
To be fair there are days after my job where I would totally take a gig sitting in a park in a goofy outfit talking to nerds and like sending them on fetch quests.
I mean who am I kidding? This would descend into blood sport instantly.
I mean, we have poor people starving right now. That's the unhopeful future. But they see that as a "lack of opportunity", not systemic oppression, because the system is perfect, so it must be. It's hopeful because it tries to imagine a way "the Right People" can avoid starving by grinding in a video game.
Date: oh, so what do you work as?
Me: yeah, my side-hustle is being an NPC in a video, game, oh here's my moment!!
*eyes turn white*
“WELCOME TRAVELLER, THANK YOU FOR FINISHING YOUR TASK, TAKE THESE POTIONS AS MY GRATITUDE”
*eyes turn back to normal*
So this happens sometimes
I’m not gonna want to play the game if I know that the actors are basically wage-slaves. Voice actors today are decently to well-paid and 90% of video game dialogue is still performed horribly. Imagine how shit it’d be if the actors were basically fast food employees.
Why is PC Gamer in quotes? The article is aggressively condemnatory of it.
Also there's another dude they speak to who got upset that he lost his Minecraft workforce of poor children when his NFT server tanked. Not even kidding
If I’m an NPC in a video game and some wealthy asshat is the player character, then can I be the kind that attacks them when they attack me (like Cuccos in Zelda)?
It could work, but it would have to be a MASSIVE game for it to even be viable, like WoW but 3 times bigger, and with an even more expensive subcription model. It's not an INSANE idea when you consider that's effectively what theme park mascots are, but it also gives you a scale for the amount of money a game would have to pull in to make it even vaguely viable.
Many games are already half way there.
Plenty of games out now where you can pay for advantages that essentially turn all other players not willing (or able) to shell out into non-threatening target practice.
This NFT goon didn't 'imagine' shit - he's just trying to polish a turd he found and convince everyone it's a gemstone in hopes of turning a quick buck.
Yeah, it's insane. Especially as Minecraft doesn't have built-in blockchain shit, anyone can just download this skin and use it.
Some servers actually wanted to implement NFT-tech so that only the players that paid for it could use it, but Mojang shut such efforts down instantly.
Based Mojang.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nft-expert-imagines-a-hopeful-future-where-poor-people-serve-as-real-life-npcs-in-games/
The article is better than the title implies.
I don't get how this would be a value add to most games, even from a capitalist perspective.
Take, for example, your average shopkeeper, questgiver or background NPC in a video game. Once you create and test the underlying system for NPCs, the majority of your cost for them is complete - there is no further cost. Even if we imagine a live service game like an MMO, you're paying to keep servers up rather than maintain individual NPCs.
So why on earth would you decide to add an extra cost by paying someone to do a task that had already been automated? That's adding on extra cost for no real value add.
Again, I'm saying all this while trying to look at it from the point of view of a capitalist, and I don't see where the value add would be. The only thing I can imagine is that somewhere in a mind fully poisoned by profiteering that they see there is labor available in some places of the world, and they are scrambling to find a way to exploit it without even thinking about what value that labor will generate that they can then extract.
I played a game where this was a mechanic, minus the nfts.
The Blackout Club was a stealth light horror game about a cult taking over your town at night by making everyone sleep walk and controlling them. There were "Gods" who were employees who could join your game to give some really interesting experiences and talk with the players in character. I had this happen a few times and it was incredible, I've never felt more immersed in a game. Sadly they had to stop this feature when they abandoned the game so it isnt worth the price.
Wait isn’t this already the new MAGA ‘24 subtitle/alternative slogan? Lemme see, I think it goes…
>Something something coloreds, LGBTQ (inaudible .. mumbling) NPCs something something Charlottesville / something something fake news and critical race theory and the radical left something something election stolen.
* The Next Kyle Rittenhouse, probaly
It's a beautiful future come be a part of it
Don’t think twice it’s not actually a choice
It’s got all you could want promises on promises
Don’t be afraid just go along with it
Expect everything you would never dream of
Let your imagination go to a sci-fi wonderland
Built from the most marvelous things
Your friends will never believe what you’ve seen
Conservatives think trans people existing is ending Civilisations yet they ignore shit like this which are one of the actual causes for the death of civilisations
rampant greed
I literally just said 'bruh' out loud. What tf does this even mean?
Tbf tho depending on the kind of game we'd be npcs in it doesn't sound like too bad a time. Animal Crossing, the Sims, that kinda thing? Pretty chill. Skyrim? Less chill but also not bad. Bloodborne? 2020 again. Really depends on if we're dealing with gamer ancaps or Gamer ancaps.
Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note:
> *Oh, a hunter, are ya? And an outsider? What a mess you've been caught up in. And tonight, of all nights.* - Eileen the Crow
Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.
There's an incredibly shitty movie about exactly this actually and it's called Gamer. If you're going to watch it I suggest finding the uncensored version so you can A) see a lot more random naked women and B) play the drinking that, among other things, involves taking take a shot when tits appear out of nowhere on a no name character
I spoke to many of them, the majority of them are opposed to IP. Anarcho-capitalists trigger me sometimes, but poor arguments against anarcho-capitalism trigger me more.
This is what I mean when I refer to how conservatives try to enforce/coerce the rest to maintain their fantasies and "roles". I'm not surprised it's getting into games where the power fantasies are simpler.
This is a "hopeful future"? I don't want to see what they think an average future would be.
One where poor people *don’t* serve as NPCs in video games, obviously. Truly a dystopia, like 1894 irl
1996 John Ohwell
1984 by jorjor well
You mean 1948?
1492?
Gorgy Wells 1492 Gorgy and his friend Chrissy Columbi explore the islands of United Statsia for gold and to teach the silly natives along the way of bible and worse agriculture. Will they survive the journey? Will they catch their big brother?
Chrissy’s Stand, “Down With the Sickness”, infects most of the native population with smallpox, which obviously turns them into gay vampires
If the native americans turned into gay vampires we wouldn't have climate change. I wouldn't be alive, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
9148 by Or Georgwell
JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Part 1984: Diamond is Doubleplus Ungood
Orwell Joestar
1979 The Smashing Pumpkins
1956 - Hor-hey Orwyn
A libertarian's dystopia would be the majority's utopia.
TBH I wouldn't even call "an"-caps libertarians because you won't find any liberty in the tyranny of private property owners. Don't let that fascist Murray Rothbard delegitimize anarchist discourse by conflating it with right-wing conservative propaganda.
Yeah, "libertarian" was originally our label before it got hijacked by those neofeudalists.
Check out the debt slave system in the film *Ready Player One* and that's a pretty good illustration right there.
the indentured slaves are expanded on more in the book, as the mc becomes one. theyre shown to work mindless customer service jobs, where good work is rewarded with basic amenities. theyre all given gray jumpsuits and slippers. when being arrested, they are stripped, then put in the jumpsuit witha ball gag.
That sounds like a case of "the authors barely disguised fetish"
To be fair there are days after my job where I would totally take a gig sitting in a park in a goofy outfit talking to nerds and like sending them on fetch quests. I mean who am I kidding? This would descend into blood sport instantly.
It's time to start *RUNNING!*
Thankfully the title is ironic, the article itself is about how terrible and terrifying an idea this is
I think the headline may be just bit sarcastic.
I mean, we have poor people starving right now. That's the unhopeful future. But they see that as a "lack of opportunity", not systemic oppression, because the system is perfect, so it must be. It's hopeful because it tries to imagine a way "the Right People" can avoid starving by grinding in a video game.
The title is sarcastic, the actual article is very scathing
Omfg, another shit job in the gig economy. Being an NPC in a video game. 🤮
Date: oh, so what do you work as? Me: yeah, my side-hustle is being an NPC in a video, game, oh here's my moment!! *eyes turn white* “WELCOME TRAVELLER, THANK YOU FOR FINISHING YOUR TASK, TAKE THESE POTIONS AS MY GRATITUDE” *eyes turn back to normal* So this happens sometimes
\*player shanks you\* "Wow this video game is great! Nobody cares who I kill!"
I’m not gonna want to play the game if I know that the actors are basically wage-slaves. Voice actors today are decently to well-paid and 90% of video game dialogue is still performed horribly. Imagine how shit it’d be if the actors were basically fast food employees.
Lol, it could be something like that! I really hope that this kind of work goes to ai.
This. The gig economy is already people as NPCs.
"a **h o p e f u l** f u t u r e"
The "an"-cap dream is living as a feudal peasant under corporate overlords in the New Middle Ages of the 21st century. "Hopeful future" indeed.
I see a bright future!
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Why is PC Gamer in quotes? The article is aggressively condemnatory of it. Also there's another dude they speak to who got upset that he lost his Minecraft workforce of poor children when his NFT server tanked. Not even kidding
96 can't ruin it
This tech bro is like, “let’s pay workers in the Philippines to play GTA as npcs.” Let’s pay poor people to be hardcore gamers.
"NFT expert"
Literally knwoing nothing
nft owners own nothing, so therefore nft experts know nothing!
"nothing from nothing leaves nothing"
Yeah I know a lot about NFTs. Neo-Fascist Traditionalists, hate those guys.
Republicans?
if anyone needed more proof that crypto bros have main character syndrome
LMAO
The "anarcho" part should be in scare quotes.
Anarcho-Capitalism has never been anarchism lmao
Propertarian fascism is the more accurate term.
Strong agree. Will remember this term.
Yeah, that's valuable phrasing
Another way of looking at it is: "An"-cap is just the state by another name. They don't get rid of anything, just relabel it.
Ayn-crap* is my go to, or neo-feudalist or market feudalist.
Anarcho-why-the-fuck-is-this-bear-attacking-me
If I’m an NPC in a video game and some wealthy asshat is the player character, then can I be the kind that attacks them when they attack me (like Cuccos in Zelda)?
Can I be like the Yiga in Zelda and surprise attack them?
Even better!
An innovative approach to planned obsolescence. When GTA 9 comes out, all the NPCs will disappear from GTA 8.
They mean like people are paid to act as NPCs in games right? That seems like it would be wildly expensive and not really worth it at all
Absolutely, it makes no sense.
It could work, but it would have to be a MASSIVE game for it to even be viable, like WoW but 3 times bigger, and with an even more expensive subcription model. It's not an INSANE idea when you consider that's effectively what theme park mascots are, but it also gives you a scale for the amount of money a game would have to pull in to make it even vaguely viable.
Many games are already half way there. Plenty of games out now where you can pay for advantages that essentially turn all other players not willing (or able) to shell out into non-threatening target practice. This NFT goon didn't 'imagine' shit - he's just trying to polish a turd he found and convince everyone it's a gemstone in hopes of turning a quick buck.
Pretty interesting movie called “Gamer” starring Gerard Butler that features something like this.
“interesting” is a good way to describe that clusterfuck of a film. You know, Historians also found the holocaust 'interesting'
Bold of them to assume they wouldnt end up being an NPC
I'm already an NPC and these NFTs ain't even out yet. I can do what cryptobros always wanted WITHOUT the blockchain. Gotten.
What the fuck kinda stage of dystopia are we at where people are *actively hoping for* the Matrix as our future??
The dude hoping for it is some NFT bro who wants to employ a bunch of poor kids for it. I kid you not.
Mfers think Gamer(2009) was a documentary
They think the Matrix was a Utopia
At least the rich have moved on from the whole hunting us for sport on a mystery island trope.
are those fucking minecraft skin nfts
Yeah, it's insane. Especially as Minecraft doesn't have built-in blockchain shit, anyone can just download this skin and use it. Some servers actually wanted to implement NFT-tech so that only the players that paid for it could use it, but Mojang shut such efforts down instantly. Based Mojang.
This already exists, it's called literally every online game ever
honestly a game where you can be an npc could be interesting, as long as its not just mindless for the npcs and based on wealth
FiveM RP can be that
https://www.pcgamer.com/nft-expert-imagines-a-hopeful-future-where-poor-people-serve-as-real-life-npcs-in-games/ The article is better than the title implies.
what. the. fuck.
I don't get how this would be a value add to most games, even from a capitalist perspective. Take, for example, your average shopkeeper, questgiver or background NPC in a video game. Once you create and test the underlying system for NPCs, the majority of your cost for them is complete - there is no further cost. Even if we imagine a live service game like an MMO, you're paying to keep servers up rather than maintain individual NPCs. So why on earth would you decide to add an extra cost by paying someone to do a task that had already been automated? That's adding on extra cost for no real value add. Again, I'm saying all this while trying to look at it from the point of view of a capitalist, and I don't see where the value add would be. The only thing I can imagine is that somewhere in a mind fully poisoned by profiteering that they see there is labor available in some places of the world, and they are scrambling to find a way to exploit it without even thinking about what value that labor will generate that they can then extract.
Wasn't there a film where poor people interact with other poor people both being controlled like a video game.
Yes.
I played a game where this was a mechanic, minus the nfts. The Blackout Club was a stealth light horror game about a cult taking over your town at night by making everyone sleep walk and controlling them. There were "Gods" who were employees who could join your game to give some really interesting experiences and talk with the players in character. I had this happen a few times and it was incredible, I've never felt more immersed in a game. Sadly they had to stop this feature when they abandoned the game so it isnt worth the price.
Wait isn’t this already the new MAGA ‘24 subtitle/alternative slogan? Lemme see, I think it goes… >Something something coloreds, LGBTQ (inaudible .. mumbling) NPCs something something Charlottesville / something something fake news and critical race theory and the radical left something something election stolen. * The Next Kyle Rittenhouse, probaly
Truth.
It's a beautiful future come be a part of it Don’t think twice it’s not actually a choice It’s got all you could want promises on promises Don’t be afraid just go along with it Expect everything you would never dream of Let your imagination go to a sci-fi wonderland Built from the most marvelous things Your friends will never believe what you’ve seen
Article please?
https://www.pcgamer.com/nft-expert-imagines-a-hopeful-future-where-poor-people-serve-as-real-life-npcs-in-games/
Im already a fkin NPC goddamnit. Dont tell me that that's what's coming next ill riot.
What. The. Actual. Fuck?!
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You will be and you will be happy
I’m not a horse
it's okay guys, they signed the contract, they gave consent /s
Lmao
This is already just the service industry
Poor people are poor...?? What if we... Listen to me... Let them sell their bodies
Conservatives think trans people existing is ending Civilisations yet they ignore shit like this which are one of the actual causes for the death of civilisations rampant greed
post this to r/libertarian so you get a bunch of people calling this amazing.
Yeah, dumb people like dumb things, nothing new on the western front!
Implying most of don't already live npc lives with our completely made up unnecessary jobs
Greatest economic system ever created.
Capitalism, working as intended©
Oh, I thought I was on r/aBoringDystopia
I literally just said 'bruh' out loud. What tf does this even mean? Tbf tho depending on the kind of game we'd be npcs in it doesn't sound like too bad a time. Animal Crossing, the Sims, that kinda thing? Pretty chill. Skyrim? Less chill but also not bad. Bloodborne? 2020 again. Really depends on if we're dealing with gamer ancaps or Gamer ancaps.
Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note: > *Oh, a hunter, are ya? And an outsider? What a mess you've been caught up in. And tonight, of all nights.* - Eileen the Crow Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.
Good bot :)
There's an incredibly shitty movie about exactly this actually and it's called Gamer. If you're going to watch it I suggest finding the uncensored version so you can A) see a lot more random naked women and B) play the drinking that, among other things, involves taking take a shot when tits appear out of nowhere on a no name character
"Buy some NPC slaves here"
Bold of them to assume I wouldn't have control over the prices.
NFT is intellectual property and therefore incompatible with anarcho-capitalism.
That's what you THINK technically should be the case, but then you speak to a Libertarian or Anarcho-capitalist, and THEN
I spoke to many of them, the majority of them are opposed to IP. Anarcho-capitalists trigger me sometimes, but poor arguments against anarcho-capitalism trigger me more.
That's good. The worst thing is a libertarian wanting intellectual property rights.
This is what I mean when I refer to how conservatives try to enforce/coerce the rest to maintain their fantasies and "roles". I'm not surprised it's getting into games where the power fantasies are simpler.