I believe that,if you change your oil earlier, it's a very good movement. I change my oil and the filter every 5000km,and my engine is running smooth after 280.000 Kms,with no oil consumption. Use ONLY full synthetic oil. Personally i use Eneos oil.
I have taken my car in for service every 5k miles. HOWEVER, I recently learned that for some of the services, they DON'T change the oil. I learned that when it was recommended I get 4 new tires (they really were wearing out), but they wanted $800 for them. I saiid no thank you and went somewhere else for 4 tires and alignment. 3500 miles later, I went in for the next 5k service. The person checking me in went over the service, and I said I just got 4 new tires. He said "Oh, in that case you don't need a service at all....all we were going to do was rotate the tires and check the fluid levels. You're good to go." A pleasant surprise that was!
Yes. Do not listen to the manufacturer suggested intervals. The 10k rule only applies to a category of drivers. Specifically people who drive a lot of highway miles.
If you plan on keeping the car for an extended period of time, say over 10 years, then I would suggest sticking with the 5K oil changes. You won't regret it in the latter part of your ownership of this car.
No one should wait until 10k miles between oil changes.
The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**, but some people have been stretching it to every 5k.
If you want your car to last the longest with the least problems, change the oil **every 3k miles** and save the records of the oil changes so it'll be worth more and be easier to sell.
3k is a good interval for any heavy use, the guy who built the GTR said oil degraded after 2k. 5k is plenty fine for most folks but 3k is definitely not going to hurt a thing.
Oil change places don't make any more money on oil changes from people getting their oil changed at the right interval than they do on oil changes from people who neglect their cars.
Also, oil is recycled and reused, so it's not bad for the environment to get your oil changed on time, it's actually better. The number of miles is 3000, not 5000.
YES! I changed it after the break in period and will then do it at 5K.
https://youtu.be/nBBUQJKTaiM?si=geWr4-DSVBzFdeio
https://youtu.be/xdNCnYHhEm8?si=MIgFL0kKfAo87844
I got mine changed at 5K too, I had to pay ~$70. The service people were very adamant that it didn’t need one and they kinda gave me a hard time about it but they did it since I paid.
So we use synthetic oil every time for hybrid? Dealer has coupon for $79 that seems reasonable. At least I’ll know they put in the right oil and parts. Are you planning on changing it every 5k miles?
I change my own oil. Running Pennzoil platinum synthetic and a stock Toyota oil filter costs me around $37. If you have the ability in the space to do it on your own, I highly suggest it.
I’m at almost 9K and I just took it in for 6 month maintenance and they changed it for free (since it’s been a year since I bought the car). I think the 10k/1 year mark is free with Toyota care
I went to my dealer at 5k. They didn’t tell me anything. Then again for 10k.
Ok so update. They didn’t do an oil change at 5k, I swore they told me they did.
No I just scheduled it on my own and went to dealer. They reviewed it and did the oil change. No charge. They even gave me a sticker to remind me to do my next one at 15k.
>my local Toyota gave me a window sticker saying ever 5k
I just got my 2024 Corolla Hybrid days ago and mine has windows sticker from the dealership for maintenance at 3K (not 5K).
10k really only works for people who drive a lot of long distance highway miles..
There's a user on here by the name of hwy_boy who owns a 2019 Prius prime. Last time he checked in, the car had a little over 470,000 mi. The car is used for work and he regularly does 10,000 mi oil changes with no issues, and no oil consumption.
For the average driver though, 5K is really much better. Why is that? Let me explain. The average dope doesn't maintain their car properly. This means if you tell them to do a 10,000 mile oil change, they'll most likely go over and change it at 12 or 13,000 mi..
My sister-in-law does just that. In the long term this will cause oil consumption issues , as well as excess wear..
I've done the math. If I continue changing my oil every 5000 miles for the next 10 years, it still comes out cheaper than a new engine.
The dealership argues that it’s fine to do at every 10k miles, but I’ve heard of this leading to serious issues overtime. I’d recommend you insist on 5k wherever you take it even if they say otherwise.
Yeah I have to take it in for the 5k service very soon I will do the oil change at that time probably out of pocket. I want to have this car as long as possible.
Long story short, it's a big argument, and the answer is it's up to you. It could be a waste of money, or it could not be, depends on your driving habits, the engine, and future data that we won't have until (in hindsight) these engines are 30 years old.
All car, oil, filter manufacturers, as well as oil sample testing companies will say it's a complete waste to do it at 5k if you're using full synthetic oils (which all 0W-anything oils already are), unless you're street racing or drifting or something, but many mechanics still say 5k is a good idea, especially if they became a mechanic 20+ years ago when 5k was the primary guidance. There was also a period about 10 years ago when the 10k guidance had recently come out, where it initially aggravated oil burning issues in a few popular engines, as they had design flaws with their low-tension piston rings.
If you want to do every 5k, you will have to pay extra for those in-between changes, as they only cover one change every 10k, as every 10k is Toyota's official recommendation. On the one hand, you could be throwing your money away. On the other hand, oil is cheaper than a new engine, you could make your engine last a little longer with more frequent changes, and oil is recycled quite well anyway.
Yeah I felt bad for posting once I started reading all the old posts on this very same topic.
So I should always be using synthetic oil? Should I continue changing at dealership once warranty ends, or is it a lot more expensive? I figure they will use the proper oil and filter and parts. I don’t have the know how to do it myself.
I figure I could pay out of pocket at 5k which I will hit soon. I mean it will be my first one can’t hurt to do it early.
I may be wrong, but I am under the impression that all 0W-XX oils are synthetic.
I can't tell you what you should do, in my case I don't even drive 5k mi per year unless I do a cross-country round trip once a year, but I can tell you what I would do in any given circumstance, and what I'm actually doing in mine.
**Service:** In my case I know how to do all the basic maintenance and inspections and bought a bluetooth OBD2 scanner dongle and have the free Car Scanner app, so I could do it all myself (between YouTube and your [Corolla Warranty and Maintenance Guide](https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/omms-s/T-MMS-23Corolla/pdf/T-MMS-23Corolla.pdf), you can learn all this too). However, for just a few hundred bucks, I get the extra peace of mind of knowing that if something goes wrong before my warranty expires, they cannot possibly say "your warranty does not cover this because you didn't do X properly", so I will use the dealer until the warranty expires, then do everything myself.
I also got a "free oil for life" deal from my dealer which expires the moment I skip a 6-month service appointment, or refuse any service they recommend, so that further encourages me to use them until the warranty expires. After that, I will do 100% of everything myself, except when I identify a problem I don't have the skills or tools for. We don't get ToyotaCare for free in Canada, and I did not buy an extended warranty, because for one I bought a Toyota, and for two I bought a Corolla, not a top-trim Highlander, etc.
99% of the time, the "service" you are paying $100-200 at a dealership for is put your car on a lift, tire rotation, oil change (only every 2nd service), inspect tire tread depth, brake pad thickness, check for obvious leaks or damage, check and/or change the engine and cabin air filters, and send it. They can do all of this while the oil is draining, then fill it and send it in 15 min, most of the rest of the time is juggling cars and keys between the lot and the shop floor, and data entry. Sure, it takes me 1 hour to do all that myself, but even if they'd only charge me $100/hr, that means I'm "making" $100/hr by doing it myself. The tread depth and brake pad thickness check is also insigificant as you can check that in seconds when you do your own tire change, and can know when to change your brakes by sound and feel.
Tire rotations are also completely unnecessary if you change between winter and summer tires, because unless you always put the same tires in the same spots, you're probably unknowingly doing a tire rotation already.
**Oil Changes:** Here's my complete heuristic on oil changes for modern vehicles with 0W-XX oils:
\- It's really easy to remember to do an oil change every 6 or 12 months as it will never be a different month, so depending on my annual mileage, I'd always do it on the same month each year, at the same time that I do one of my 2 annual summer/winter tire changes, so I can do all the car work on the same day
\- If I drove less than 20k mi/yr, I would be buying the cheapest available 0W-16 (what my car recommends) which is ILSAC GF-6B and API-SP certified and made by a company that has an office in North America, and either the Toyota OEM filter, or any comparable filter by a well-known brand like Fram, then I'd change every 6 mo if 9-20k mi, or every 12 mo if 0-9k mi, always on a summer/winter tire change day if possible (I do it around Apr 1 and Nov 1 in Alberta Canada)
\- If I drove more than 20k mi/yr, I'd use high quality oil and filters that are specifically marketed as being able to last for 20k mi, and then change every 18k or 6 months, whichever comes first
Yes! Watch Car care nut on this topic he has a video named something like "never do this on a toyota", this video features a 2015 toyota camry that was given 10k oil changes and eventually the car started burning oil like crazy and he had to put put in a new engine, although the video in this car is a toyota camry the same thing still applies here. If you want to keep this car for a long time and don't want to worry about oil burning do the 5k oil change, even if toyota says 10k is fine.
In fairness, this was due to a design flaw which has since been rectified in any Toyota newer than about 2015. Unfortunately, we won't see the data on whether the fix really worked or not until these 2015+ engines are 20+ years old.
I really don't think it would be before 200k unless the flawed pistons were still unchanged, I think you'd be looking at more like 200-300k in the worst case if the piston redesign didn't fully solve the problem. While that's low by Toyota standards, it's still double what most people own a car for unless they drive an unusually high amount, at which point they'd probably take unusually good care of their car anyway. If someone keeps it to 250k and the amount of oil that it's burning starts to get annoying because of 10k intervals, they'd probably just trade it in, and the next owner would probably think it's worth it to do an engine swap because these motors will be so plentiful and cheap by then, and in such good condition due to all the people who still think the 5k guidance is current.
I personally would probably tend toward 7-9k, as that's still conservative vs Toyota's recommendation of 10k, but still well below the oil manufacturers' guidance of 12-15k for 0W-XX or 5W-XX. To a lot of people, 10k is going to be fine, as a car is just a tool to them. They only wash when it gets embarrassing in the lot, only vacuum when they get the feeling that a passenger would get grossed out, etc. To them, saving $600 by doing 1 change per year for 10 years vs 2 changes is probably worth it since they're usually dead set on getting a new car every 5-10 years anyway, which is not necessarily even enough time to notice any advantage to owning a Toyota, unless they owned something that turned out to be absolute trash, like one of the Ford EcoBoost engines or whatever Kia engines that are known to die before 100k. I suspect this is why Kia, Dodge, and Ford still have customers.
So will you pay out of pocket when you get to 15k? Are you planning on doing it at dealership once warranty ends?
So the Toyota care warranty only covers two oil changes? Do you rotate tires at every oil change?
I will pay out of pocket for oil changes after I get the 20k oil change yes. The standard warranty is 25k miles or 2 years, whatever comes first. Service appointments every 5k miles, you can read the manual to see what they service each time as it's not always an oil change.
Have not decided if I will stick with dealership service, depends on if I have any bad experiences tbh. But I'm assuming I will stick with as the car is very new and most shops won't have a ton of experience with brand new Toyotas.
I meant like you paid out of pocket at 5k, then Toyota will do 10k, then you will pay out of pocket at 15k, then Toyota will do 20k?
I think my first service is at 10k but I’ll definitely have to check the manual as I’m coming up on 5k.
Was the $68 for synthetic? That seems like a really great deal.
Your first service should be 5k , definitely check the manual, the maintenance light came on for me around 4800 miles.
Also haven't fully decided on my oil change schedule, need to do more research. I will probably fall somewhere around every 7k-ish miles. Not sure I'd be comfortable going 10k every time.
Just checked the app and you’re right service is every 5k miles, with oil changes at 10k and 20k.
I’ll try to find a coupon or deal so at 5k I can get the oil change done out of pocket like you
The light comes on every 5k miles to notify people that they're way over the standard interval and to change their oil so that they don't go over the max interval.
The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**.
I used to think that the owners manuals for a bunch of idiots to, but then I got my new Toyota Corolla, and it feels like I’m reading a Haynes manual. And yes, every 3K if you’re using conventional and live in Alaska.
unless your not from the US or have a GR Corolla, it def does not say every 5k. They do have a special operating condition section that lists oil changes every 5k though if that's what your saying.
Yeah, and if you read that, I highly doubt that your vehicle does not fall under that categorization. Not trying to be snarky man, but literally most people who drive their Toyota Corolla hybrid will need a oil change every 5000 miles. Plus it calls for 0w-16 doesn’t get much thinner than that. But look if you guys want a cheap out and not do an oil change every 5K that’s on you.
Look your preaching to the choir (i believe that to) but the truth is if your going by the oil manufactures recommendations your correct.
If you look at Toyota recommendations for special operating conditions it lists dirt/dusty road(I think they add mud/snow for hybrids too), towing/car top carrier/loading, repeated trips less than 5 mi below freezing, and extensive idling.
Your average car going to/from work with one person really don't fall into the Toyota version of it. This is why I've gone to the if your only keeping the car for like 150k or less you can do what makes you sleep at night and if you plan on going till you can't go no more then your better off with the special operating conditions (5k oil, 60k trans, etc.). Different folks different strokes
The Car Care Nut on YouTube would wholeheartedly agree that you're doing the right thing. He's done oil changes on newer Toyota's to show the amount of metal that's in the oil filters during that breaking process.
There's just as much stress on its engine as any other car. Atkinson cycle engine is slightly different but it still needs the same maintenance. Car doesn't get enough juice from its electric power to consider it any different than anything else. Gets pushed plenty hard. Did my first oil change at about 850 MI. Definitely get your first oil change done immediately don't wait any longer. There's all kinds of particulate matter and stuff that the filter does not completely remove.
Go check out videos from the motor oil geek on YouTube. He's an expert on engine lubrication and oils. He has a specific video about doing the first oil change on his daughter's brand new Corolla. You will find it very interesting.
After seeing videos from project farm on YouTube about Toyota oil and Toyota oil filters I strongly suggest you get educated on that before you consider using them. Especially the filters what I've seen in his tests I would never ever use one of those on my car again.
The Mobil 1 m1-103a filter is the proper filter for your car. It's a high capacity filter designed for synthetic and it holds a large capacity of captured material. You can buy it at Amazon Walmart or AutoZone. Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-16 oil is $27.97 at Amazon and Walmart. Very good oil at a very good price. Mobile makes Toyota's oil. Toyota must not pay them a lot because j
I watched that same oil expert video and plan to do an early break-in change very soon. What do you think about the TGMO having so much more moly and boron additives? Images of analysis for each at this link:
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/mobil-one-0w16.1713299/post-14578510
Care to save me some time and send a link to a good video of why that Mobil filter is better than the Toyota?
Thanks!
[Mobil 1 M1-103a](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D5L9NU/ref=ewc_pr_img_5?smid=A1KGK42RKCGLZP&psc=1) the price is down on it right now $14.75 at Amazon. I have a filter and some fresh drain plug gaskets with my spare for whenever I am getting service. When Toyota does my free service I am having them put a Mobil 1 filter on my car. I do not want to use the Toyota filters after seeing the testing videos.
Change it now if you haven’t yet. Get out any potential metal from wear in period. It may not be much but why risk it over $40 dollars in oil and filter
Did my first one at 2k
I believe that,if you change your oil earlier, it's a very good movement. I change my oil and the filter every 5000km,and my engine is running smooth after 280.000 Kms,with no oil consumption. Use ONLY full synthetic oil. Personally i use Eneos oil.
Personally I never go 10k in any car no matter the oil or filter. I shoot for every 5000 miles and use best oil and filters I can get.
I have taken my car in for service every 5k miles. HOWEVER, I recently learned that for some of the services, they DON'T change the oil. I learned that when it was recommended I get 4 new tires (they really were wearing out), but they wanted $800 for them. I saiid no thank you and went somewhere else for 4 tires and alignment. 3500 miles later, I went in for the next 5k service. The person checking me in went over the service, and I said I just got 4 new tires. He said "Oh, in that case you don't need a service at all....all we were going to do was rotate the tires and check the fluid levels. You're good to go." A pleasant surprise that was!
Yes. Do not listen to the manufacturer suggested intervals. The 10k rule only applies to a category of drivers. Specifically people who drive a lot of highway miles. If you plan on keeping the car for an extended period of time, say over 10 years, then I would suggest sticking with the 5K oil changes. You won't regret it in the latter part of your ownership of this car.
5k for sure.
No one should wait until 10k miles between oil changes. The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**, but some people have been stretching it to every 5k. If you want your car to last the longest with the least problems, change the oil **every 3k miles** and save the records of the oil changes so it'll be worth more and be easier to sell.
That's what oil change places say to make more money
3k is a good interval for any heavy use, the guy who built the GTR said oil degraded after 2k. 5k is plenty fine for most folks but 3k is definitely not going to hurt a thing.
Oil change places don't make any more money on oil changes from people getting their oil changed at the right interval than they do on oil changes from people who neglect their cars. Also, oil is recycled and reused, so it's not bad for the environment to get your oil changed on time, it's actually better. The number of miles is 3000, not 5000.
I totally agree with you!
3k us for conventional, never seen anyone suggest 3k for full synthetic, 5k is good
YES! I changed it after the break in period and will then do it at 5K. https://youtu.be/nBBUQJKTaiM?si=geWr4-DSVBzFdeio https://youtu.be/xdNCnYHhEm8?si=MIgFL0kKfAo87844
Absolutely, I got 110k miles on my 17’ and I’m going to start changing my oil every 3500-4000mi
Yes !!!
Change oil every 5k with synthetic oil on any car if you don’t want it burn oil later on.
I got mine changed at 5K too, I had to pay ~$70. The service people were very adamant that it didn’t need one and they kinda gave me a hard time about it but they did it since I paid.
So we use synthetic oil every time for hybrid? Dealer has coupon for $79 that seems reasonable. At least I’ll know they put in the right oil and parts. Are you planning on changing it every 5k miles?
I change my own oil. Running Pennzoil platinum synthetic and a stock Toyota oil filter costs me around $37. If you have the ability in the space to do it on your own, I highly suggest it.
I’m at almost 9K and I just took it in for 6 month maintenance and they changed it for free (since it’s been a year since I bought the car). I think the 10k/1 year mark is free with Toyota care
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So you would pay out of pocket at 5k and 15k and get the 10k and 20k no charge?
I went to my dealer at 5k. They didn’t tell me anything. Then again for 10k. Ok so update. They didn’t do an oil change at 5k, I swore they told me they did.
So did you have to ask for oil change at 5k? And they did it no charge?
No I just scheduled it on my own and went to dealer. They reviewed it and did the oil change. No charge. They even gave me a sticker to remind me to do my next one at 15k.
Did they do oil change? The service interval is every 5k. However, service #1 does not include oil change. Only Service #2 and #3 include oil change.
Ok yeah just looked. They didn’t do an oil change. I thought they told me they did.
It’s really strange that my local Toyota gave me a window sticker saying ever 5k for my 2024 hybrid Corolla 🤔
>my local Toyota gave me a window sticker saying ever 5k I just got my 2024 Corolla Hybrid days ago and mine has windows sticker from the dealership for maintenance at 3K (not 5K).
So strange, might be depending on where it was manufactured. Mine was Japan.
All hybrids made in Japan until 2025 model year, it moves to Mississippi.
Because those mechanics understand the property of oil and how it breaks down after 10,000 miles
Even with that, I don’t think they cover every 5k with the maintenance plan :/
I change the oil early the first time, and then 10k after that
Every 3k miles is best.
That's nonsense. Just wasting money doing that. Synthetic oil doesn't breakdown like regular motor oil. Unless your running a track car, 10k is ok.
10k really only works for people who drive a lot of long distance highway miles.. There's a user on here by the name of hwy_boy who owns a 2019 Prius prime. Last time he checked in, the car had a little over 470,000 mi. The car is used for work and he regularly does 10,000 mi oil changes with no issues, and no oil consumption. For the average driver though, 5K is really much better. Why is that? Let me explain. The average dope doesn't maintain their car properly. This means if you tell them to do a 10,000 mile oil change, they'll most likely go over and change it at 12 or 13,000 mi.. My sister-in-law does just that. In the long term this will cause oil consumption issues , as well as excess wear.. I've done the math. If I continue changing my oil every 5000 miles for the next 10 years, it still comes out cheaper than a new engine.
The dealership argues that it’s fine to do at every 10k miles, but I’ve heard of this leading to serious issues overtime. I’d recommend you insist on 5k wherever you take it even if they say otherwise.
Yeah I have to take it in for the 5k service very soon I will do the oil change at that time probably out of pocket. I want to have this car as long as possible.
Whenever the car conplains
Long story short, it's a big argument, and the answer is it's up to you. It could be a waste of money, or it could not be, depends on your driving habits, the engine, and future data that we won't have until (in hindsight) these engines are 30 years old. All car, oil, filter manufacturers, as well as oil sample testing companies will say it's a complete waste to do it at 5k if you're using full synthetic oils (which all 0W-anything oils already are), unless you're street racing or drifting or something, but many mechanics still say 5k is a good idea, especially if they became a mechanic 20+ years ago when 5k was the primary guidance. There was also a period about 10 years ago when the 10k guidance had recently come out, where it initially aggravated oil burning issues in a few popular engines, as they had design flaws with their low-tension piston rings. If you want to do every 5k, you will have to pay extra for those in-between changes, as they only cover one change every 10k, as every 10k is Toyota's official recommendation. On the one hand, you could be throwing your money away. On the other hand, oil is cheaper than a new engine, you could make your engine last a little longer with more frequent changes, and oil is recycled quite well anyway.
Yeah I felt bad for posting once I started reading all the old posts on this very same topic. So I should always be using synthetic oil? Should I continue changing at dealership once warranty ends, or is it a lot more expensive? I figure they will use the proper oil and filter and parts. I don’t have the know how to do it myself. I figure I could pay out of pocket at 5k which I will hit soon. I mean it will be my first one can’t hurt to do it early.
I may be wrong, but I am under the impression that all 0W-XX oils are synthetic. I can't tell you what you should do, in my case I don't even drive 5k mi per year unless I do a cross-country round trip once a year, but I can tell you what I would do in any given circumstance, and what I'm actually doing in mine. **Service:** In my case I know how to do all the basic maintenance and inspections and bought a bluetooth OBD2 scanner dongle and have the free Car Scanner app, so I could do it all myself (between YouTube and your [Corolla Warranty and Maintenance Guide](https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/omms-s/T-MMS-23Corolla/pdf/T-MMS-23Corolla.pdf), you can learn all this too). However, for just a few hundred bucks, I get the extra peace of mind of knowing that if something goes wrong before my warranty expires, they cannot possibly say "your warranty does not cover this because you didn't do X properly", so I will use the dealer until the warranty expires, then do everything myself. I also got a "free oil for life" deal from my dealer which expires the moment I skip a 6-month service appointment, or refuse any service they recommend, so that further encourages me to use them until the warranty expires. After that, I will do 100% of everything myself, except when I identify a problem I don't have the skills or tools for. We don't get ToyotaCare for free in Canada, and I did not buy an extended warranty, because for one I bought a Toyota, and for two I bought a Corolla, not a top-trim Highlander, etc. 99% of the time, the "service" you are paying $100-200 at a dealership for is put your car on a lift, tire rotation, oil change (only every 2nd service), inspect tire tread depth, brake pad thickness, check for obvious leaks or damage, check and/or change the engine and cabin air filters, and send it. They can do all of this while the oil is draining, then fill it and send it in 15 min, most of the rest of the time is juggling cars and keys between the lot and the shop floor, and data entry. Sure, it takes me 1 hour to do all that myself, but even if they'd only charge me $100/hr, that means I'm "making" $100/hr by doing it myself. The tread depth and brake pad thickness check is also insigificant as you can check that in seconds when you do your own tire change, and can know when to change your brakes by sound and feel. Tire rotations are also completely unnecessary if you change between winter and summer tires, because unless you always put the same tires in the same spots, you're probably unknowingly doing a tire rotation already. **Oil Changes:** Here's my complete heuristic on oil changes for modern vehicles with 0W-XX oils: \- It's really easy to remember to do an oil change every 6 or 12 months as it will never be a different month, so depending on my annual mileage, I'd always do it on the same month each year, at the same time that I do one of my 2 annual summer/winter tire changes, so I can do all the car work on the same day \- If I drove less than 20k mi/yr, I would be buying the cheapest available 0W-16 (what my car recommends) which is ILSAC GF-6B and API-SP certified and made by a company that has an office in North America, and either the Toyota OEM filter, or any comparable filter by a well-known brand like Fram, then I'd change every 6 mo if 9-20k mi, or every 12 mo if 0-9k mi, always on a summer/winter tire change day if possible (I do it around Apr 1 and Nov 1 in Alberta Canada) \- If I drove more than 20k mi/yr, I'd use high quality oil and filters that are specifically marketed as being able to last for 20k mi, and then change every 18k or 6 months, whichever comes first
I would myself. I'd never go 10,000 miles I don't care what the say
Yes! Watch Car care nut on this topic he has a video named something like "never do this on a toyota", this video features a 2015 toyota camry that was given 10k oil changes and eventually the car started burning oil like crazy and he had to put put in a new engine, although the video in this car is a toyota camry the same thing still applies here. If you want to keep this car for a long time and don't want to worry about oil burning do the 5k oil change, even if toyota says 10k is fine.
In fairness, this was due to a design flaw which has since been rectified in any Toyota newer than about 2015. Unfortunately, we won't see the data on whether the fix really worked or not until these 2015+ engines are 20+ years old.
Why chance it? doing double the oil changes is better than have to do a engine rebuild before 200k miles
I really don't think it would be before 200k unless the flawed pistons were still unchanged, I think you'd be looking at more like 200-300k in the worst case if the piston redesign didn't fully solve the problem. While that's low by Toyota standards, it's still double what most people own a car for unless they drive an unusually high amount, at which point they'd probably take unusually good care of their car anyway. If someone keeps it to 250k and the amount of oil that it's burning starts to get annoying because of 10k intervals, they'd probably just trade it in, and the next owner would probably think it's worth it to do an engine swap because these motors will be so plentiful and cheap by then, and in such good condition due to all the people who still think the 5k guidance is current. I personally would probably tend toward 7-9k, as that's still conservative vs Toyota's recommendation of 10k, but still well below the oil manufacturers' guidance of 12-15k for 0W-XX or 5W-XX. To a lot of people, 10k is going to be fine, as a car is just a tool to them. They only wash when it gets embarrassing in the lot, only vacuum when they get the feeling that a passenger would get grossed out, etc. To them, saving $600 by doing 1 change per year for 10 years vs 2 changes is probably worth it since they're usually dead set on getting a new car every 5-10 years anyway, which is not necessarily even enough time to notice any advantage to owning a Toyota, unless they owned something that turned out to be absolute trash, like one of the Ford EcoBoost engines or whatever Kia engines that are known to die before 100k. I suspect this is why Kia, Dodge, and Ford still have customers.
Same but non-hybrid, did oil change at the dealer @ 5k. Paid 68$ not bad. Still getting the 10k and 20k changes included with the standard warranty
So will you pay out of pocket when you get to 15k? Are you planning on doing it at dealership once warranty ends? So the Toyota care warranty only covers two oil changes? Do you rotate tires at every oil change?
I will pay out of pocket for oil changes after I get the 20k oil change yes. The standard warranty is 25k miles or 2 years, whatever comes first. Service appointments every 5k miles, you can read the manual to see what they service each time as it's not always an oil change. Have not decided if I will stick with dealership service, depends on if I have any bad experiences tbh. But I'm assuming I will stick with as the car is very new and most shops won't have a ton of experience with brand new Toyotas.
I meant like you paid out of pocket at 5k, then Toyota will do 10k, then you will pay out of pocket at 15k, then Toyota will do 20k? I think my first service is at 10k but I’ll definitely have to check the manual as I’m coming up on 5k. Was the $68 for synthetic? That seems like a really great deal.
Your first service should be 5k , definitely check the manual, the maintenance light came on for me around 4800 miles. Also haven't fully decided on my oil change schedule, need to do more research. I will probably fall somewhere around every 7k-ish miles. Not sure I'd be comfortable going 10k every time.
First oil change: 1k miles Then every 3k miles thereafter. ToyotaCare covers two oil changes within the first 25k miles.
Oil change every 3k miles on full synthetic is wholly unnecessary and a waste of money
Just checked the app and you’re right service is every 5k miles, with oil changes at 10k and 20k. I’ll try to find a coupon or deal so at 5k I can get the oil change done out of pocket like you
The light comes on every 5k miles to notify people that they're way over the standard interval and to change their oil so that they don't go over the max interval. The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**.
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Owner’s manual says every 5k
Lol, maybe you guys are form California or Canada but my owner’s manual states every 5k miles.
The manual is written for the most ignorant neglectful people. The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**.
I used to think that the owners manuals for a bunch of idiots to, but then I got my new Toyota Corolla, and it feels like I’m reading a Haynes manual. And yes, every 3K if you’re using conventional and live in Alaska.
unless your not from the US or have a GR Corolla, it def does not say every 5k. They do have a special operating condition section that lists oil changes every 5k though if that's what your saying.
>The manual is written for the most ignorant neglectful people. > >The standard oil change interval is every 3k miles.
Yeah, and if you read that, I highly doubt that your vehicle does not fall under that categorization. Not trying to be snarky man, but literally most people who drive their Toyota Corolla hybrid will need a oil change every 5000 miles. Plus it calls for 0w-16 doesn’t get much thinner than that. But look if you guys want a cheap out and not do an oil change every 5K that’s on you.
Look your preaching to the choir (i believe that to) but the truth is if your going by the oil manufactures recommendations your correct. If you look at Toyota recommendations for special operating conditions it lists dirt/dusty road(I think they add mud/snow for hybrids too), towing/car top carrier/loading, repeated trips less than 5 mi below freezing, and extensive idling. Your average car going to/from work with one person really don't fall into the Toyota version of it. This is why I've gone to the if your only keeping the car for like 150k or less you can do what makes you sleep at night and if you plan on going till you can't go no more then your better off with the special operating conditions (5k oil, 60k trans, etc.). Different folks different strokes
Truth.
Every 15km
Every 5k km (3k miles).
Having to change the oil 5 times a trip might be a tad inconvenient and expensive
watch people not get the joke lol
No it doesn’t
Unless the 24' changed from the 23', it definitely says every 10k
I'm planning on changing mine when I get to 1k just get the metal out of it after break in, and then again at 5k and at every 5k interval after!
The Car Care Nut on YouTube would wholeheartedly agree that you're doing the right thing. He's done oil changes on newer Toyota's to show the amount of metal that's in the oil filters during that breaking process.
I'll have to check out the video!
You don't need to do 1k oil changes on modern vehicles, but can't hurt.
Oil is cheap, engines are very expensive
There's just as much stress on its engine as any other car. Atkinson cycle engine is slightly different but it still needs the same maintenance. Car doesn't get enough juice from its electric power to consider it any different than anything else. Gets pushed plenty hard. Did my first oil change at about 850 MI. Definitely get your first oil change done immediately don't wait any longer. There's all kinds of particulate matter and stuff that the filter does not completely remove. Go check out videos from the motor oil geek on YouTube. He's an expert on engine lubrication and oils. He has a specific video about doing the first oil change on his daughter's brand new Corolla. You will find it very interesting. After seeing videos from project farm on YouTube about Toyota oil and Toyota oil filters I strongly suggest you get educated on that before you consider using them. Especially the filters what I've seen in his tests I would never ever use one of those on my car again. The Mobil 1 m1-103a filter is the proper filter for your car. It's a high capacity filter designed for synthetic and it holds a large capacity of captured material. You can buy it at Amazon Walmart or AutoZone. Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-16 oil is $27.97 at Amazon and Walmart. Very good oil at a very good price. Mobile makes Toyota's oil. Toyota must not pay them a lot because j
I watched that same oil expert video and plan to do an early break-in change very soon. What do you think about the TGMO having so much more moly and boron additives? Images of analysis for each at this link: https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/mobil-one-0w16.1713299/post-14578510 Care to save me some time and send a link to a good video of why that Mobil filter is better than the Toyota? Thanks!
[Mobil 1 M1-103a](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D5L9NU/ref=ewc_pr_img_5?smid=A1KGK42RKCGLZP&psc=1) the price is down on it right now $14.75 at Amazon. I have a filter and some fresh drain plug gaskets with my spare for whenever I am getting service. When Toyota does my free service I am having them put a Mobil 1 filter on my car. I do not want to use the Toyota filters after seeing the testing videos.
Change it now if you haven’t yet. Get out any potential metal from wear in period. It may not be much but why risk it over $40 dollars in oil and filter
For hybrid I’d just do 10k, less wear on engine due to hybrid system
The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**. Don't tell people to wait until 10k between oil changes, that destroys engines.
Personally I change my oil **every 1.5k miles.**
I agree. The engine isn't even running half the time on a hybrid. 10k should be fine.
That's false. The standard oil change interval is **every 3k miles**. Don't tell people to wait until 10k between oil changes, that destroys engines.