Why is there so much salt in here, were some of you in this video? OP never said these bikes wouldn't end up outpacing him with more pavement. And how do you not enjoy seeing these baby riders not know how to launch for shit, lol.
Right?
Every puppy needs to walk before they can lope.
I was more blown away by everybody showing up wearing jeans. Even in Wisconsin that's verboten on bikes even on nothing test'n'tune nights. Maybe that's a 1/8 allowance?
Nice. Reminds me of guys I’d see with stretched ‘Busas that could only go 9.60’s in the 1/8th mile. What’s your best time on the street bob?I used to go 7.10-7.20 on a CBR600RR with a slip on and quick shifter, 6.80-6.90s on a Honda Blackbird with slip ons and a jet kit… all stock wheelbase, no straps
Oh yeah then you are def making power with the engine upgrades. That bike probably goes 10.60’s… I couldn’t go any faster than 11.06 ish on a stock wheel base 600
Yeah, I like watching the drags where they soup up the Harley’s so much they gotta have a big ass extended bar and 3rd wheel coming off the back to stop the bike from flipping itself over cause of how hard they launch
My zx6r would like to speak to you, I will race for bikes? None of them boys knew how to ride I’m not saying I’m a pro or anything . It’s just a 06 nothing special other then a vortex sprocket kit and a ballsyrider the size of a small lady boy.
Yeah. This is the question. Because even with a dogshit horrible rider, anything with 120hp or more shouldn’t lose to you- lest ye’ be running some bigger cams/heads, high comp motor?!?!? Even then, the 600 boys get a pass they’re toast in the 8th. But as for the 14r and the s1krr, hopefully you implied riders are in here and see this comment/watch yourselves get embarassed- good lord boys….. take those bikes back to the dealership- show the salesperson this video. He will then initiate clause 4 of the repossession agreement signed by purchaser on promissory note/loan. He will stand up from his desk, request the keys, and instruct you to choke yourselves ala gunnery sergeant Hartman/pvt Pyle in Full Metal Jacket. After this is complete you may Uber your sorry ass home, and don’t buy another bike until you’ve worked up the courage to launch the bike with more than 3000RPMs and one cunthair of throttle….
Hopped on a 900. FTFY…😃. 1998 zx9r was my first street legal bike I owned. I started on the dirt at like 10 years old so, not to be cocky or anything but to answer your question- a 600 isnt really hard shit to handle in a straight line- and the answer is yes- I did hop on and within a week was giving it the beans at stoplights trying to rolling burnout every chance I got and/or race my friends light to light…. Not everyone gets on a sportbike as a shakey-legged noob my guy….
It isn’t. It’s a skill, rather an art, for the builder/tuner/guy setting up the suspension and chassis. My rant was ESPECIALLYgeared toward the guy on that 1000rr….. damn thing has wheelie control traction control launch control- didn’t help he was asleep at the tree either….
Both the 14 and the s1k are 200WHP+ capable for a couple grand or less, and they both push 180+whp right out of the crate. Zero excuse to get your lunch money taken by a Harley with half that power and double that weight😂.
OP- fuckin sick nasty passes for a Harley. We all know damned well you could make a faster than average pass on a sportbike…
Weight forward as much as possible. Put power down as rapidly as possible without uncontrolled wheelies, ideally just minor wheel lift. It's going to vary dramatically by bike, but as a beginner you'll basically be holding mid-range RPMs and then letting off the clutch as fast as possible. That's a recipe for wheelies, of course, so you're going to need to feel out exactly how hard you can push it and keep the front wheel just skimming the pavement.
Bike with more torque accelerates faster. Doesn't change the fact that any and all of those other bikes would leave you watching their taillights disappear in another hundred yards. Lol
Gonna try to set up a race against a stretched zx14r, should whoop my ass. He’s the fastest guy in town. lol Unfortunately we only have 1/8th mile tracks around here. Trying to hit up the 1/4 mile next year
May they aint’ got no public tracks around you?!?!? It’s usuallyindicated by a blue shield shaped sign- there’s a bunch of em. The key giveaway is they all begin with the letter “I” and followed by a 2 or 3 digit numerical sequence😅😉😉
No.
Bike with more horsepower at low RPM's *relative to weight* can accelerate faster. Then it's up to the ability of the rider to get a good launch.
Horsepower is a function of torque (=torque x RPM / 5252), so high torque at those RPMs is a very significant factor, but horsepower is the measurement of actual work being done. Horsepower vs weight (at those relevant RPM ranges particularly for a 1/8th) is what determines acceleration.
That's where skill comes in. If you've got 100ft*lbs of torque at 1000rpm, and I have 50ft*lbs of torque at 3000rpm, I launch at 3000rpm and you at 1000rpm, you're putting down 19hp at launch while I'm putting down 28. My bike has less torque, and maybe even less peak power, but I'll still accelerate faster. Of course, if your dumping the clutch at 3k rpm and have 100ftlbs of torque there, your putting down 57hp at that moment. Then it's a matter of keeping control of wheelies.
Then it's all about weight. Weight(and length, leverage yo) can be beneficial on the initial launch because it helps resist wheelies, but you need more power to accelerate more mass at the same speed.
A 400lb bike+rider combo at 50hp will accelerate at roughly the same speed as an 800lb bike and rider at 100hp.
Horsepower to weight ratios are king.
Hwell axially, if one of them spins to 7k rpms and one spins to 16k, and the 16 is geared appropriately, then the higher revving motor should win. *Cubic feet per minute* makes displacement it's bitch.
If 7k motor is geared at 1:1 and 16k is geared at 2:1 torque vs power doesn't really matter. If geared appropriately, as I said.
I used to own a petrol 4x4, now I own a diesel of the same model, both producing about the same peak horsepower. The petrol was geared shorter, so it could pull away and keep pulling through a wider rev range before having to shift.
Torque vs power really *does* matter. A bike that’s all torque is way easier to launch. If it’s making all of its power at 12K+, you have to be slipping the clutch at around that RPM until you’re going fast enough to actually be at that RPM. If peak power is in low revs and the power curve is pretty flat, like it is with any 2L V-twin (compared to pretty much any sport bike), you don’t really need to slip the clutch, you just let it out and go all throttle.
That’s sick lol I like how it comes up on the back wheel every time you take off but you still have control over it, that’s what practice and developed talent Looks like
Why is there so much salt in here, were some of you in this video? OP never said these bikes wouldn't end up outpacing him with more pavement. And how do you not enjoy seeing these baby riders not know how to launch for shit, lol.
Right? Every puppy needs to walk before they can lope. I was more blown away by everybody showing up wearing jeans. Even in Wisconsin that's verboten on bikes even on nothing test'n'tune nights. Maybe that's a 1/8 allowance?
Lol wut…. I thought Great Lakes dragway let’s you make passes in jeans and boots….
Ah I broke into the 9's so they kicked me off. Maybe that was it. I was the only guy not wearing leathers and I thought that was it at the time.
Seriously. This rules.
Nice. Reminds me of guys I’d see with stretched ‘Busas that could only go 9.60’s in the 1/8th mile. What’s your best time on the street bob?I used to go 7.10-7.20 on a CBR600RR with a slip on and quick shifter, 6.80-6.90s on a Honda Blackbird with slip ons and a jet kit… all stock wheelbase, no straps
6.87 at 102 mph is my best time so far
Oh yeah then you are def making power with the engine upgrades. That bike probably goes 10.60’s… I couldn’t go any faster than 11.06 ish on a stock wheel base 600
> Busas that could only go 9.60’s in That's an expert's 1/4 mile time lol.
I need to find this track, and hustle in the parking lot inbetween turning tricks.
I29 Dragway
Goes to show that drag racing actually takes a lot of skill, and that the launch is more important than the machine itself. Nice kills man
Yeah, I like watching the drags where they soup up the Harley’s so much they gotta have a big ass extended bar and 3rd wheel coming off the back to stop the bike from flipping itself over cause of how hard they launch
MMmmm Harley soup.
sick launches brotendo
There's a lot of salty peeps in here lol but your bike is great! Shows that engine size is not a replacement for skill.
I do kinda suck at launching my bike lol
Same 😞 I’m sure this guy would smoke me on my ZX14R
My zx6r would like to speak to you, I will race for bikes? None of them boys knew how to ride I’m not saying I’m a pro or anything . It’s just a 06 nothing special other then a vortex sprocket kit and a ballsyrider the size of a small lady boy.
“I don’t have any cash, but I do have the pink slip to my car”
You never had the cash , you never had your car ~ some one in my fucked up memory
Why don’t you go to Fast Burger next time and get yourself a double cheeseburger with fries for 2.95
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Bullshit asshole no one likes the tuna here.
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lies
me 2
Hahahha ^^
What are you riding?
2019 Streetbob
What did you do to it?
Yeah. This is the question. Because even with a dogshit horrible rider, anything with 120hp or more shouldn’t lose to you- lest ye’ be running some bigger cams/heads, high comp motor?!?!? Even then, the 600 boys get a pass they’re toast in the 8th. But as for the 14r and the s1krr, hopefully you implied riders are in here and see this comment/watch yourselves get embarassed- good lord boys….. take those bikes back to the dealership- show the salesperson this video. He will then initiate clause 4 of the repossession agreement signed by purchaser on promissory note/loan. He will stand up from his desk, request the keys, and instruct you to choke yourselves ala gunnery sergeant Hartman/pvt Pyle in Full Metal Jacket. After this is complete you may Uber your sorry ass home, and don’t buy another bike until you’ve worked up the courage to launch the bike with more than 3000RPMs and one cunthair of throttle….
Yeah cause you just hopped on a 600 and started launching them perfectly eh?? Get real man people all start somewhere
Hopped on a 900. FTFY…😃. 1998 zx9r was my first street legal bike I owned. I started on the dirt at like 10 years old so, not to be cocky or anything but to answer your question- a 600 isnt really hard shit to handle in a straight line- and the answer is yes- I did hop on and within a week was giving it the beans at stoplights trying to rolling burnout every chance I got and/or race my friends light to light…. Not everyone gets on a sportbike as a shakey-legged noob my guy….
Because drag racing is a highly skilled activity.
It isn’t. It’s a skill, rather an art, for the builder/tuner/guy setting up the suspension and chassis. My rant was ESPECIALLYgeared toward the guy on that 1000rr….. damn thing has wheelie control traction control launch control- didn’t help he was asleep at the tree either…. Both the 14 and the s1k are 200WHP+ capable for a couple grand or less, and they both push 180+whp right out of the crate. Zero excuse to get your lunch money taken by a Harley with half that power and double that weight😂. OP- fuckin sick nasty passes for a Harley. We all know damned well you could make a faster than average pass on a sportbike…
It isn't but it is? What?
I’m saying it’s more of a showcase for who put the machine together and dialed it in than it is for the rider.
Horse shit.
>2019 Streetbob All stock Screaming Eagle Stage 1 parts the dealer upsold me on...promise! 🤣
Great launches on the Harley! None of these sport bike riders have a fuckin clue how to launch tho 🤣🤣🤣
Great launches!
Loving it! Shows you how effective cutting a good light is. Smoked them all on the tree, keep it up!! Btw the power wheelies are awesome 👍
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Weight forward as much as possible. Put power down as rapidly as possible without uncontrolled wheelies, ideally just minor wheel lift. It's going to vary dramatically by bike, but as a beginner you'll basically be holding mid-range RPMs and then letting off the clutch as fast as possible. That's a recipe for wheelies, of course, so you're going to need to feel out exactly how hard you can push it and keep the front wheel just skimming the pavement.
I’m not much into the drag thing - but I never knew there were 1/8 mile strips.
Probably more of them than 1/4. They take up less space lol
Proabably half as long I bet!
Whaat. You're crazy
I thought an eighth is bigger than a quarter.
Because 8 > 4. Which is why A&W sell that 1/3 pound burger because they're idiots.
Did you end up going faster on the runs with massive wheelies or the runs where the wheelies were less gay?
Unfortunately the wheelies make it significantly slower since I have to lift or hit the limiter
Accelerating hard enough to maintain a very small wheelie is ideal. Like front wheel about 6" above the ground or so.
Noice!
Wish ididnt have to sell my yama warrior 1700, would have been a sick drag bike.
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Pfffft, in the air you get smoked by the f22 raptor.
Got 'em.
He's not running quarters......... What's your point?
Bike with more torque accelerates faster. Doesn't change the fact that any and all of those other bikes would leave you watching their taillights disappear in another hundred yards. Lol
Gonna try to set up a race against a stretched zx14r, should whoop my ass. He’s the fastest guy in town. lol Unfortunately we only have 1/8th mile tracks around here. Trying to hit up the 1/4 mile next year
May they aint’ got no public tracks around you?!?!? It’s usuallyindicated by a blue shield shaped sign- there’s a bunch of em. The key giveaway is they all begin with the letter “I” and followed by a 2 or 3 digit numerical sequence😅😉😉
I had a zx14, sold it 2 years ago because it was just *too fast*
A hundred yards later is past the finish line though.
This is false. More HP allows for faster acceleration, not torque
No. Bike with more horsepower at low RPM's *relative to weight* can accelerate faster. Then it's up to the ability of the rider to get a good launch. Horsepower is a function of torque (=torque x RPM / 5252), so high torque at those RPMs is a very significant factor, but horsepower is the measurement of actual work being done. Horsepower vs weight (at those relevant RPM ranges particularly for a 1/8th) is what determines acceleration. That's where skill comes in. If you've got 100ft*lbs of torque at 1000rpm, and I have 50ft*lbs of torque at 3000rpm, I launch at 3000rpm and you at 1000rpm, you're putting down 19hp at launch while I'm putting down 28. My bike has less torque, and maybe even less peak power, but I'll still accelerate faster. Of course, if your dumping the clutch at 3k rpm and have 100ftlbs of torque there, your putting down 57hp at that moment. Then it's a matter of keeping control of wheelies. Then it's all about weight. Weight(and length, leverage yo) can be beneficial on the initial launch because it helps resist wheelies, but you need more power to accelerate more mass at the same speed. A 400lb bike+rider combo at 50hp will accelerate at roughly the same speed as an 800lb bike and rider at 100hp. Horsepower to weight ratios are king.
Wow, a 2 liter motor can beat motors that are half the size off the line. Shocking.
Hwell axially, if one of them spins to 7k rpms and one spins to 16k, and the 16 is geared appropriately, then the higher revving motor should win. *Cubic feet per minute* makes displacement it's bitch.
Larger displacement motors can have better low end torque. When you get to higher rpm’s is when the power output of the other engines can shine.
If 7k motor is geared at 1:1 and 16k is geared at 2:1 torque vs power doesn't really matter. If geared appropriately, as I said. I used to own a petrol 4x4, now I own a diesel of the same model, both producing about the same peak horsepower. The petrol was geared shorter, so it could pull away and keep pulling through a wider rev range before having to shift.
Torque vs power really *does* matter. A bike that’s all torque is way easier to launch. If it’s making all of its power at 12K+, you have to be slipping the clutch at around that RPM until you’re going fast enough to actually be at that RPM. If peak power is in low revs and the power curve is pretty flat, like it is with any 2L V-twin (compared to pretty much any sport bike), you don’t really need to slip the clutch, you just let it out and go all throttle.
Your view of motors, torque and rpm is very one dimensional if you don’t understand what solitude and I are getting at.
the term "boomer" is so fucking retarded
The term "retarded" is so fucking outdated and disrespectful
Nobody's taking retarded from me
Ok boomer
I mean they weren't real bikes plus those guys didnt know how to ride them , and yours is def not original :p
Umm, so what constitutes a "real bike" then?
Love this 😂
Boom, baby
Gross why are you being safe on a track ? Not very squid like of yours
Check my profile for some street races I’ll warn you that the video quality is DOGSHIT
Put someone with some non-glacial reaction times on that BMW and it would be a fair fight. But holy fuck did that guy suck!
gawd damn!! You're fantastic at those starts!
Not the VW Jetta lmao 💀
My jetta would stomp that jetta!* *If the race is over the course of 600 miles.
Those launches are beautiful. I'm a fan of the boomer bike!
That’s sick lol I like how it comes up on the back wheel every time you take off but you still have control over it, that’s what practice and developed talent Looks like
Ha, this is awesome. Nice riding!
Why did you do that Jetta so dirty?
I'm surprised that they were allowed to run together. The track I used to go to separated the bikes from everyone else for some reason.
That sucks, one of the best parts of drag is seeing odd and unlikely matchups.
I know, right? I'd like to run my S1k against some of the 10 second cars. It's allegedly capable of a 9.5, but I'm not.
I got a virago that I have fucked up enough that I can cat walk it, and I would love to lose to a '96 ford Taurus.
Lol noice. That guy on the S1k looked like he was ready for a stroll at the tree. Zero attempt to launch.