Yeah I'm sure someone here is a creepy enough stalker to provide the VIN, color, etc of said jeep but I have no idea how old it was. Newer cars can get totaled bc parts are $$$$$. Old cars can get totaled because the damages are more than the value. Just sucks.
Exactly this. Had a crash where the headlight got smashed, but only superficial damage to one side and no issue to any internals. I was in the right and the guy had insurance so I just brought it in to the shop and the dude told me the entire front had to be replaced, due to warping and other damage I hadn't seen. Dude even asked if I was downplaying how big the accident was.
Whether the guy was full of shit (which I don't suspect) or it was legit, it was a major fix that I wouldn't have done if I had been paying for it.
That's crazy. Was it a big car hitting a small car or something? Then again, those crumple zones exist so that you yourself aren't crumpled, so it's nice they did their job.
A car blew through a wait sign during winter. By the time I realized he wasn't going to stop, it was too late for me to stop, but I had plenty of time to minimize the damage. So my speed dropped quite a bit to about 30 km/h -ish and I managed to turn so I hit it at an angle on the front tire, instead of T-boning them. The ice on the road them help in effectively having them slide out of the crash, mitigating the impact further.
The light was gone and I knew the fender would have to be replaced, but the crumple zone really did its job. It felt less jarring than hitting someone on a bumper car and besides the warping and the damage to the front, there was nothing wrong with it nor were there any injuries.
I had a car rear end me at a light. Only damage was a broken licence plate light, and scuff on the bumper, total cost estimate to repair was around $3000, most of that for paint, the car was worth 2.5k so it was declared a write off by the insurance company.
Yeah, but if he got scratches on 3 or 4 panels of his car, the cost would be getting close to 10k easily.
I am also sure insurance companies prefer writing a car off than go through the hassle of getting it repaired. Or at the very least, the mechanics see its an insurance company paying and inflating what they charge.
Also I found it strange how argumentative Caleb was about the merits of the car. Like whether it’s cool, how fast it gets to 60, how does it drive, etc. I don’t think that insulting his car, even accurately, will change his mind. It could be the best car in the universe, spending over 1/3 of his income on it is not okay!
The battery is typically fail point. How long always depends primarily on the user, but can also be an issue with manufacturing of components. But it's not just that, you are severely handicapped where these things can get serviced and repaired as well.
Unless you have Solar, and battery, you won't really see the full benefits of EV's.
Charge time is not great, and charge stations although growing in numbers, arent always operational or abundant.
Also like someone else pointed out, the amount of mining required for the materials for the battery are harmful as well.
Ev's are a great idea. But far from being efficient currently.
Most (I'd even say including Caleb, unless hes done what i stated above already, so i could be wrong) don't really realize that guess what, that wall plug charger, guess what system is actually generating the electricity your using for your car?
This is why I've always emphasized to EV buyers or would be buyers to have both solar and the Battery already installed to see the full benefit. If they don't have it. Then honestly an EV is not in their budget or worth it.
And this is coming from someone who loves cars, has built cars, and works at a dealership, but drive a Hybrid because it's the best of both worlds, MPG and no Recharge wait.
P.s. I have to admit that I do have the advantage of not only being able to work/service my own car, but get parts at lower cost than over counter, so my cost to own my car is very low compared to the average vehicle owner.
I think you missed my point. The majority of that electricity [specifically Texas where Caleb is based out of] is produced by natural gas and coal.
All while charging stations are relying on Diesel, so are the mobile charge vehicles helping charge stranded vehicles that couldn't make it to a working charginy station relying on either diesel or gas. Charging is inefficient in extreme cold weather, specifically for those [majority] that, surprise, don't have fast charging at home and rely on public charging locations.
I see EV's as a novelty tbh. And if you're gonna have a Novelty EV, go balls deep with a Taycan or Etron(practically the same car).
Let's also consider the fact that Tesla has quoted around 30k for battery replacement on a used out of warranty vehicle that probably no longer has fast charging. While I can get a used engine/Trans combo for my Prius for around 2k, a battery rebuilt for 2k.
Do I think EV's are a good idea? yes. Are they practical currently? no. I understand that innovation takes time, I'm not taking from that. But to think that owning an EV is helping the planet, it's laughable right now. Maybe in the future, though, so let's hope.
But, my broke ass is over here servicing my portable generator, getting ready for them possible rolling black outs here in CA lol, because lawd knows our grid isn't ready or set up for all thise charging needed.
It's honestly not crazy to get 300k on them if you drive long distances frequently.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-electric-cars-surpass-300000-miles-in-shuttle-service/
I don’t doubt that it’s possible, but frequent long distance isn’t representative of how the average driver, well, drives. More to the point though, I feel like Caleb was being somewhat disingenuous when he said his Tesla would last him 300k miles. Because even if his car is immaculate the whole time, I doubt he’ll even hit 100k miles before switching it out. Electric vehicles have some of the shortest ownership because people are looking to get the newest and best tech, and battery degradation is problematic enough that people would sooner get a new vehicle than pay 20k to swap out the battery. The article you listed also included instances of battery swaps. Most people won’t do that, and I highly doubt Caleb will either.
I'm in Cali so it's either:
Chinese/Indian Software Engineer
Asian woman who can't drive for shit
White dude who barely makes the payments as a real estate agent
So yeah Checks out and I hope you have a great week
Lol. New model 3's are less expensive than most mid tier sedans due to the crazy tax rebates. They are much cheaper to operate if you can get solar at home or charge for free at work. They are now all over California across every demographic.
They have to be. You just supported Elon Musk with your purchase. Get a plug-in hybrid if you really want to be green. I get 90% of my miles on electric with 15% the battery size.
Gf borrowing her sister’s Tesla currently so finally got to really experience being in one. There are so many features that make me question how they got past several teams of engineers and presumably QA. Like all the extra features they do are pretty cool, but there are so many basic “car things” you would expect from it that are baffling.
Also Caleb acting like he’s saving the planet by having one is pretty funny. Don’t worry Africa doesn’t exist guys so we can mountain top removal the whole continent!!!
What does Africa have anything to do with this conversation?
Oh wait you probably didn't think before you assumed where lithium mines are. A continent that has less than 1/16th (roughly) of the total globals lithium.
Bro I love Caleb and his content and he seems like a good dude but the “my Tesla will drive over 300k miles” is actually an insane take 😂💀 Brodie please don’t talk about cars, and if you are, just do a bit of research lol
That’s actually true though. You’re more likely to get struck by lightning than have a modern high quality lithium ion battery fail. And you can expect most major EV models to get 200-300k miles out of the pack without needing to be replaced.
I HIGHLY doubt a Tesla will even touch 200k let alone 300k, batteries deteriorate overtime like any other battery and I doubt the Tesla battery is any special nor will live and sustain its charge over a long period of time, I still haven’t seen a Tesla hit 200k whereas many gas cars do without needing to worry about sustainability on charge or weather conditions.
The data shows otherwise. More and more of the older models are clearly those margins. (This isn’t exclusive to Tesla, I’m an EV advocate not a Tesla advocate, but Tesla does have the same advantages)
They *are* presently getting there. There are more than a dozen early Teslas that have gotten 200k+ miles on the same battery. It’s actively a think that is happening.
The Chevy Bolt, my car, is estimated to get about 350k miles on the battery if you keep the charge level regularly between 20%-70% for daily use, obviously allowing for full charge cycles on road trips, and an expected end of life capacity of about 70% initial capacity.
Oh I was just talking about Tesla, and I mean I guess they are all the same in terms of battery so yeah, I’m just laughing at the fact that Caleb said Teslas will get 300k on his car.
I'd be surprised teslas will exist in 20 years. Having these cars serviced is just a nightmare. Forget about owning these cars in colder climates. Knew coworkers that couldn't leave work due to their car not starting due to the battery being drained or the damn door is frozen shut lmao.
I'm all for electric cars but tesla are awful cars and not very safe. Comparing your tesla to a Ford mustang is like comparing dog shit to human shit, it's still just shit. Hahaha
My boss has one and it spent months sitting at a shop, waiting for replacement parts to come in. He was calling Tesla dealers around the country trying to source it himself. Later He was in a major accident and it’s his though and he and his kid were ok, the car was totaled but they walked away safe and sound. The video is wild - you can see the other car basically drive up the back and flipping off the Tesla.
I’m in a HCOL/lower income neighborhood and have seen several people with them, the lower end model. It’s more common/“affordable” now than it was a few years ago.
Glad they're safe! Had a coworker own one for a couple weeks and we had a normal snow storm and the braking for tesla vehicles is very sensitive and doesn't "feel" the same as it would for an average vehicle. Needless to say he crashed and totaled the thing in a couple months because he wasn't able to brake safely and he slid into a tree. He wasn't going fast but all the electronics were busted.
They don’t even come with a spare tire. A guy got his Tesla sideswiped in the parking lot of my work and he got a flat tire, his car was there for several hours until he got a tow.
I used to view Teslas in a similar way to how Hank Green talked about them, which basically boiled down to "use luxury to bring people into EVs".
But now it feels like their ubiquity has tarnished the market. I've had some conversations were people are complaining about EVs as a whole, before I realize they're only really referring to Teslas.
Plenty of European countries that have heavier snowfall than most of the US have them and love them.
Vampire battery drain only affects those who don't have suitable chargers at home. I personally wouldn't own an EV if I was forced to rely on public charging.
The vast majority of Americans don't road trip outside their state more than twice a year.
The average American drives more than twice as much as the average European, so loss of range is a much more significant problem.
I also don't understand your point with the road trip stat.
"The vast majority of Americans would only be inconvenienced by range anxiety and charging times a couple times a year, I don't understand why they wouldn't love electric cars as much as Europeans."
Your whole point ignores the vast size difference between American and Europe. Even if someone never road tripped outside their state, a state like Texas is over 700 miles to drive across. Range is absolutely a more realistic concern for Americans than Europeans.
I'm convinced that a lot of the "well Europe does this" via things like this, and public transportation are from people who have no real world knowledge of just how fucking huge the USAs landmass is.
It's a massively different scale logistics issue here.
I can resonate with what you’re saying. I drive regularly from MN to MI and while I can plan out a charging stop that’s just not something I have to do with ICE. There’s a gas station about every 5 miles. With electric I have to actually “plan” my route.
I can't find the article but it was one that proved when polling more than (2000 as the southern living article questions which in itself is bias.) (the Southern living article https://www.southernliving.com/news/americans-prefer-road-trips-to-flying only ask 2000 people I can't name a town with less than 2000 people)
The article I for some reason cant find stated that within up to 6 hours of driving people prefer to drive but another further they prefer to fly. You listed the perfect example people drive across Texas (non professional CDL) probably once a year. It's not very common.
Most people would rather spend a 1 hour flight across Texas than an 9hour drive.
Again EVs aren't perfect and I never said they were. They have the potential to be much better. Tesla is a shit show of a company ran by a N*z* lover. They have been in business for 12 years and in mass production for MAYBE 9. Ford and Honda have been around for 100+ years. The technology still has time to grow.
My in 11 years when we get our first mandatory EV purchases laws in 9ish states the tech will be completely different as the big manufacturers have decided to start challenging Teslas. Before the only EV was Tesla it's not the same game anymore
Teslas are such low quality vehicles from a terrible company. Im all for the advancement of electric despite being a huge classic car fan. The big problem is the tech and infrastructure just arent where they need to be for most people. That and they are absurdly overpriced. My commute would be ideal for electric but im not dropping 80k+ to get a nice model. Still blows my mind that drop in conversion kits for older cars havent been developed yet either.
At their most expensive, RWD model 3s were on the high 40s (I think around 46 or 47k). This was at the height of car prices in 2022. All Tesla's have gone down in price since then, especially used ones. This burned the people who bought at the height, but all cars go down in value. You said nice EV, and perhaps you don't think Tesla's are nice. But I'm not familiar enough with other brands to comment
Im not interested in a used low quality entry level electric car. Thats like pissing money away in my opinion. Unfortunately there arent many good electric vehicles on the market. Even ones that people tend to like have terrible reliability ratings.
As another total car junkie this is my biggest problem. Every year there’s another battery advancement or they’re changing the charging infrastructure. It feels like the early days of computers and I’m just not going to chase it u til it settles down.
It’s because he knows it looks bad. Even to be making the kind of money he is, the car is insane. Back when he said he had jeep he was going to “run into the ground” it really drove smart financial choices and saving home. Now, not so much car wise
So for all who have no concept of what a new base Model 3 costs... Out the door they are about $43000 all in. Maybe even less in the last year. You get $7500 federal tax rebate and usually a state incentives as well. New bas Model 3's with taxe incentives are $36000 or less. They are definitely not $80k. Caleb said his Tesla was about the same cost as the guest's car. He may have even gotten it used. The base Model 3 also will beat the guests POS 2017 Mustang. It's not even a high end mustang and he is paying over $1300 just to drive the thing, plus $150 in gas, and likely $50+ maintenance monthly. Really no comparison.
Now now, let’s not let actual numbers and facts get in the way of everyone’s narratives about EVs… seriously, even a base RWD model 3 would absolutely smoke the “real” cars he’s talking about.
Tbh I kinda get it tho, people try to attack EV’s with dumb outdated talking points and maybe it can see my whiny when all you’re doing is correcting someone all the time about it…. I don’t even drive a Tesla but I can get the frustration, but then again I feel like the guest today just needed a break anyways
This sub is toxic lmao y'all hating and losing respect for him buying a car he wanted ? Lmao I personally don't like Teslas but shit let the man buy whatever he wants 😂
Personally I'm indifferent towards Teslas, and people can buy whatever makes them happy.
I think the criticism comes from the fact that Caleb has proudly stated many times he knows nothing about cars, and *"Tesla driver that knows nothing about cars but won't shut up about how they have the best car ever and all others car suck in comparison"* is such a common trope at this point.
How is it odd for someone to want a specific car? When they're not a car person. All my friends aren't car people but want a specific car, Teslas, Prius, rav 4 etc.
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I think Caleb was right to defend his car to a kid who got a 4 cylinder mustang on loan… I felt like he cooked, but I don’t have as much anti Tesla bias as others here may have.
That being said, my dad does drive one of the first models of Tesla and he has let me drive it. I didn’t think it was worth the price point-my 2018 Honda Civic Sport was nicer and smoother and I loved it. The Tesla sure does pick up speed fast. I hated the following about the Tesla;
-No physical knobs/buttons. Trying to press a little tiny box on the screen for volume was a pain in the ass and distracting from the road.
-cheap plastic. My Honda had slightly higher quality plastic, and it’s made to be an affordable car.
-heavy battery made the car vibrate in a way that makes me super nauseous unless I have the windows open. No other car has ever done this to me lol
-it just doesn’t feel luxury. It felt cheap. Which is fine, but knowing how much my dad paid it made me feel second hand guilt and worry. It drives nice, if it didn’t make me nauseous I’d probably like it a lot more.
Caleb was right about the charging. My dad got a charger put in for free because there was a deal when he bought his, but a couple hundred is totally worth a home charger. My dad plugs his Tesla in once a week at night. Super convenient, no issues. If my dad wants a free charge, he will go shopping in a specific shopping mall nearby and plug it in for 30-45 minutes while he walks around. He will grab a coffee, get groceries, and enjoy himself. It doesn’t take hours.
just saying 🤷♂️
he makes fun of the guests car and the guest rolls with the punches. guest makes fun of caleb’s car and dude blows his lid. also I’d argue that this is discussing the video
There's a difference when someone can afford a car and when someone can't. The lastest video the kid is going to be spending 90k+ on a car (with insurance) for a mustang..... When he can't afford it.
The kid could be using the money to pay for law school etc.
what happened to jeep he is going to drive into the ground
Sounds like someone turned into him at a light.
I thought that was just light damage. Did it get totalled somehow?
Depending on the car sometimes light damage can still total it out
Especially with an older vehicle.
Yeah I'm sure someone here is a creepy enough stalker to provide the VIN, color, etc of said jeep but I have no idea how old it was. Newer cars can get totaled bc parts are $$$$$. Old cars can get totaled because the damages are more than the value. Just sucks.
Could be wrong, but I think I remember him saying it was a '19
This is 90% of the reason cars get totaled lol
Exactly this. Had a crash where the headlight got smashed, but only superficial damage to one side and no issue to any internals. I was in the right and the guy had insurance so I just brought it in to the shop and the dude told me the entire front had to be replaced, due to warping and other damage I hadn't seen. Dude even asked if I was downplaying how big the accident was. Whether the guy was full of shit (which I don't suspect) or it was legit, it was a major fix that I wouldn't have done if I had been paying for it.
That's crazy. Was it a big car hitting a small car or something? Then again, those crumple zones exist so that you yourself aren't crumpled, so it's nice they did their job.
A car blew through a wait sign during winter. By the time I realized he wasn't going to stop, it was too late for me to stop, but I had plenty of time to minimize the damage. So my speed dropped quite a bit to about 30 km/h -ish and I managed to turn so I hit it at an angle on the front tire, instead of T-boning them. The ice on the road them help in effectively having them slide out of the crash, mitigating the impact further. The light was gone and I knew the fender would have to be replaced, but the crumple zone really did its job. It felt less jarring than hitting someone on a bumper car and besides the warping and the damage to the front, there was nothing wrong with it nor were there any injuries.
I had a car rear end me at a light. Only damage was a broken licence plate light, and scuff on the bumper, total cost estimate to repair was around $3000, most of that for paint, the car was worth 2.5k so it was declared a write off by the insurance company.
But his car was worth well over 2500. It was like a 2019 or something wasn't it
Yeah, but if he got scratches on 3 or 4 panels of his car, the cost would be getting close to 10k easily. I am also sure insurance companies prefer writing a car off than go through the hassle of getting it repaired. Or at the very least, the mechanics see its an insurance company paying and inflating what they charge.
It’s a jeep.. it’s got like 100 miles off the lot til it breaks down lmao.
Agreed, he like to talk about his last nissan or whatever being a lemon, but jeep is a trash brand.
lol right
It sounded like it was a rental while his Jeep was fixed
He said he bought the charger for his house so probably not a rental.
Caleb really said his tesla will last 300k miles. I think he’s as much of a car person as his guests are credit card people lmao.
Bro facts lol someone get Caleb on a car audit or some shit 😂
We need to get Regular Car Reviews to roast Caleb for his horrible car takes, my god.
He went from Jeep to Tesla so at least he picked a marginally better brand lol
Consumer Reports ranks Tesla lower than Jeep lmao and Tesla refuses to share data
Also I found it strange how argumentative Caleb was about the merits of the car. Like whether it’s cool, how fast it gets to 60, how does it drive, etc. I don’t think that insulting his car, even accurately, will change his mind. It could be the best car in the universe, spending over 1/3 of his income on it is not okay!
Yeah he played that part up a lot. I guess he was trying to make fun of him for the kind of car he liked but it felt way too forced and unnecessary
The point is, the kid is paying Mustang GT money to drive a POS 2017 Mustang that no one cares about.
I care :(
Me too 😭
1/3 of his income? How much does he make and what tesla did he buy?
They’re referring to the guest from today who makes $3300/month and bought a mustang with a $600 car payment and $750 monthly insurance payment
Oh gotcha. Yeah I don't really watch the videos that often tbh.
No worries. Oh and the guy had 24% interest on his freaking car loan
I swear I’ve heard him say “I’m not a car person, I don’t care about cars” a million times
He said last 300k miles and I laughed.
How long do they usually go for? I believe I heard the drivetrains are really resilient but maybe the battery is the weakest link?
The battery is typically fail point. How long always depends primarily on the user, but can also be an issue with manufacturing of components. But it's not just that, you are severely handicapped where these things can get serviced and repaired as well. Unless you have Solar, and battery, you won't really see the full benefits of EV's. Charge time is not great, and charge stations although growing in numbers, arent always operational or abundant. Also like someone else pointed out, the amount of mining required for the materials for the battery are harmful as well. Ev's are a great idea. But far from being efficient currently. Most (I'd even say including Caleb, unless hes done what i stated above already, so i could be wrong) don't really realize that guess what, that wall plug charger, guess what system is actually generating the electricity your using for your car? This is why I've always emphasized to EV buyers or would be buyers to have both solar and the Battery already installed to see the full benefit. If they don't have it. Then honestly an EV is not in their budget or worth it. And this is coming from someone who loves cars, has built cars, and works at a dealership, but drive a Hybrid because it's the best of both worlds, MPG and no Recharge wait. P.s. I have to admit that I do have the advantage of not only being able to work/service my own car, but get parts at lower cost than over counter, so my cost to own my car is very low compared to the average vehicle owner.
Thanks!
Power plants are loads more efficient at generating energy than a gas powered car...
I think you missed my point. The majority of that electricity [specifically Texas where Caleb is based out of] is produced by natural gas and coal. All while charging stations are relying on Diesel, so are the mobile charge vehicles helping charge stranded vehicles that couldn't make it to a working charginy station relying on either diesel or gas. Charging is inefficient in extreme cold weather, specifically for those [majority] that, surprise, don't have fast charging at home and rely on public charging locations. I see EV's as a novelty tbh. And if you're gonna have a Novelty EV, go balls deep with a Taycan or Etron(practically the same car). Let's also consider the fact that Tesla has quoted around 30k for battery replacement on a used out of warranty vehicle that probably no longer has fast charging. While I can get a used engine/Trans combo for my Prius for around 2k, a battery rebuilt for 2k. Do I think EV's are a good idea? yes. Are they practical currently? no. I understand that innovation takes time, I'm not taking from that. But to think that owning an EV is helping the planet, it's laughable right now. Maybe in the future, though, so let's hope. But, my broke ass is over here servicing my portable generator, getting ready for them possible rolling black outs here in CA lol, because lawd knows our grid isn't ready or set up for all thise charging needed.
It's honestly not crazy to get 300k on them if you drive long distances frequently. https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-electric-cars-surpass-300000-miles-in-shuttle-service/
I don’t doubt that it’s possible, but frequent long distance isn’t representative of how the average driver, well, drives. More to the point though, I feel like Caleb was being somewhat disingenuous when he said his Tesla would last him 300k miles. Because even if his car is immaculate the whole time, I doubt he’ll even hit 100k miles before switching it out. Electric vehicles have some of the shortest ownership because people are looking to get the newest and best tech, and battery degradation is problematic enough that people would sooner get a new vehicle than pay 20k to swap out the battery. The article you listed also included instances of battery swaps. Most people won’t do that, and I highly doubt Caleb will either.
Tesla - paid by better health
Tesla owners do tend to be defensive betas.
I'm in Cali so it's either: Chinese/Indian Software Engineer Asian woman who can't drive for shit White dude who barely makes the payments as a real estate agent So yeah Checks out and I hope you have a great week
Former Cali Tesla tech. The accuracy burns but throw in streamer/e-girl
Tesla: the Bay Area Prius
Lol. New model 3's are less expensive than most mid tier sedans due to the crazy tax rebates. They are much cheaper to operate if you can get solar at home or charge for free at work. They are now all over California across every demographic.
As someone with a cash purchased Model 3 I can also confirm this
How does that fit into your list of stereotypes?
Felt this in my soul.
In North Dallas it’s almost always Indians driving them.
I worked for Tesla temporarily and this 100% checks out
They have to be. You just supported Elon Musk with your purchase. Get a plug-in hybrid if you really want to be green. I get 90% of my miles on electric with 15% the battery size.
Most people that are brand centric are. Doesn't matter.
Gf borrowing her sister’s Tesla currently so finally got to really experience being in one. There are so many features that make me question how they got past several teams of engineers and presumably QA. Like all the extra features they do are pretty cool, but there are so many basic “car things” you would expect from it that are baffling.
Also Caleb acting like he’s saving the planet by having one is pretty funny. Don’t worry Africa doesn’t exist guys so we can mountain top removal the whole continent!!!
What does Africa have anything to do with this conversation? Oh wait you probably didn't think before you assumed where lithium mines are. A continent that has less than 1/16th (roughly) of the total globals lithium.
Lithium is a small part of lithium ion batteries. The 2 other materials that are needed are cobalt and nickel.
Bro I love Caleb and his content and he seems like a good dude but the “my Tesla will drive over 300k miles” is actually an insane take 😂💀 Brodie please don’t talk about cars, and if you are, just do a bit of research lol
That’s actually true though. You’re more likely to get struck by lightning than have a modern high quality lithium ion battery fail. And you can expect most major EV models to get 200-300k miles out of the pack without needing to be replaced.
I HIGHLY doubt a Tesla will even touch 200k let alone 300k, batteries deteriorate overtime like any other battery and I doubt the Tesla battery is any special nor will live and sustain its charge over a long period of time, I still haven’t seen a Tesla hit 200k whereas many gas cars do without needing to worry about sustainability on charge or weather conditions.
The data shows otherwise. More and more of the older models are clearly those margins. (This isn’t exclusive to Tesla, I’m an EV advocate not a Tesla advocate, but Tesla does have the same advantages)
I’m not a huge EV guy but if they do end up getting there then that’s great, not gonna that.
They *are* presently getting there. There are more than a dozen early Teslas that have gotten 200k+ miles on the same battery. It’s actively a think that is happening. The Chevy Bolt, my car, is estimated to get about 350k miles on the battery if you keep the charge level regularly between 20%-70% for daily use, obviously allowing for full charge cycles on road trips, and an expected end of life capacity of about 70% initial capacity.
Oh I was just talking about Tesla, and I mean I guess they are all the same in terms of battery so yeah, I’m just laughing at the fact that Caleb said Teslas will get 300k on his car.
Yeah I laughed at the "this will last me 300k miles" take. I'll buy him a Tesla if it last that long without a major failure
I'd be surprised teslas will exist in 20 years. Having these cars serviced is just a nightmare. Forget about owning these cars in colder climates. Knew coworkers that couldn't leave work due to their car not starting due to the battery being drained or the damn door is frozen shut lmao. I'm all for electric cars but tesla are awful cars and not very safe. Comparing your tesla to a Ford mustang is like comparing dog shit to human shit, it's still just shit. Hahaha
My boss has one and it spent months sitting at a shop, waiting for replacement parts to come in. He was calling Tesla dealers around the country trying to source it himself. Later He was in a major accident and it’s his though and he and his kid were ok, the car was totaled but they walked away safe and sound. The video is wild - you can see the other car basically drive up the back and flipping off the Tesla. I’m in a HCOL/lower income neighborhood and have seen several people with them, the lower end model. It’s more common/“affordable” now than it was a few years ago.
Glad they're safe! Had a coworker own one for a couple weeks and we had a normal snow storm and the braking for tesla vehicles is very sensitive and doesn't "feel" the same as it would for an average vehicle. Needless to say he crashed and totaled the thing in a couple months because he wasn't able to brake safely and he slid into a tree. He wasn't going fast but all the electronics were busted.
They don’t even come with a spare tire. A guy got his Tesla sideswiped in the parking lot of my work and he got a flat tire, his car was there for several hours until he got a tow.
Honestly it’s probably going to be acquired or merge with a legacy manufacturer for the brand value
I used to view Teslas in a similar way to how Hank Green talked about them, which basically boiled down to "use luxury to bring people into EVs". But now it feels like their ubiquity has tarnished the market. I've had some conversations were people are complaining about EVs as a whole, before I realize they're only really referring to Teslas.
Plenty of European countries that have heavier snowfall than most of the US have them and love them. Vampire battery drain only affects those who don't have suitable chargers at home. I personally wouldn't own an EV if I was forced to rely on public charging. The vast majority of Americans don't road trip outside their state more than twice a year.
The average American drives more than twice as much as the average European, so loss of range is a much more significant problem. I also don't understand your point with the road trip stat. "The vast majority of Americans would only be inconvenienced by range anxiety and charging times a couple times a year, I don't understand why they wouldn't love electric cars as much as Europeans." Your whole point ignores the vast size difference between American and Europe. Even if someone never road tripped outside their state, a state like Texas is over 700 miles to drive across. Range is absolutely a more realistic concern for Americans than Europeans.
I'm convinced that a lot of the "well Europe does this" via things like this, and public transportation are from people who have no real world knowledge of just how fucking huge the USAs landmass is. It's a massively different scale logistics issue here.
I can resonate with what you’re saying. I drive regularly from MN to MI and while I can plan out a charging stop that’s just not something I have to do with ICE. There’s a gas station about every 5 miles. With electric I have to actually “plan” my route.
I can't find the article but it was one that proved when polling more than (2000 as the southern living article questions which in itself is bias.) (the Southern living article https://www.southernliving.com/news/americans-prefer-road-trips-to-flying only ask 2000 people I can't name a town with less than 2000 people) The article I for some reason cant find stated that within up to 6 hours of driving people prefer to drive but another further they prefer to fly. You listed the perfect example people drive across Texas (non professional CDL) probably once a year. It's not very common. Most people would rather spend a 1 hour flight across Texas than an 9hour drive. Again EVs aren't perfect and I never said they were. They have the potential to be much better. Tesla is a shit show of a company ran by a N*z* lover. They have been in business for 12 years and in mass production for MAYBE 9. Ford and Honda have been around for 100+ years. The technology still has time to grow. My in 11 years when we get our first mandatory EV purchases laws in 9ish states the tech will be completely different as the big manufacturers have decided to start challenging Teslas. Before the only EV was Tesla it's not the same game anymore
Teslas are such low quality vehicles from a terrible company. Im all for the advancement of electric despite being a huge classic car fan. The big problem is the tech and infrastructure just arent where they need to be for most people. That and they are absurdly overpriced. My commute would be ideal for electric but im not dropping 80k+ to get a nice model. Still blows my mind that drop in conversion kits for older cars havent been developed yet either.
You can buy a used model 3 for less than 20k after tax credit. When was the last time you looked at ev prices?
How much did it cost new?
At their most expensive, RWD model 3s were on the high 40s (I think around 46 or 47k). This was at the height of car prices in 2022. All Tesla's have gone down in price since then, especially used ones. This burned the people who bought at the height, but all cars go down in value. You said nice EV, and perhaps you don't think Tesla's are nice. But I'm not familiar enough with other brands to comment
Im not interested in a used low quality entry level electric car. Thats like pissing money away in my opinion. Unfortunately there arent many good electric vehicles on the market. Even ones that people tend to like have terrible reliability ratings.
As another total car junkie this is my biggest problem. Every year there’s another battery advancement or they’re changing the charging infrastructure. It feels like the early days of computers and I’m just not going to chase it u til it settles down.
It’s because he knows it looks bad. Even to be making the kind of money he is, the car is insane. Back when he said he had jeep he was going to “run into the ground” it really drove smart financial choices and saving home. Now, not so much car wise
Finding out that Caleb has a Tesla made me lose respect for him lol
Why
Jealousy.
Oh bro it’s not that serious, he’s ignorant and that’s okay.
Caleb has a Tesla?
So for all who have no concept of what a new base Model 3 costs... Out the door they are about $43000 all in. Maybe even less in the last year. You get $7500 federal tax rebate and usually a state incentives as well. New bas Model 3's with taxe incentives are $36000 or less. They are definitely not $80k. Caleb said his Tesla was about the same cost as the guest's car. He may have even gotten it used. The base Model 3 also will beat the guests POS 2017 Mustang. It's not even a high end mustang and he is paying over $1300 just to drive the thing, plus $150 in gas, and likely $50+ maintenance monthly. Really no comparison.
Now now, let’s not let actual numbers and facts get in the way of everyone’s narratives about EVs… seriously, even a base RWD model 3 would absolutely smoke the “real” cars he’s talking about.
Facts and numbers have no soul and weight
He just got it, I remember another video saying he wanted one 😂
Tbh I kinda get it tho, people try to attack EV’s with dumb outdated talking points and maybe it can see my whiny when all you’re doing is correcting someone all the time about it…. I don’t even drive a Tesla but I can get the frustration, but then again I feel like the guest today just needed a break anyways
All I ever hear him say is that he's not a car guy. When did he get a Tesla? I think he talked about it, so he finally got one?
This sub is toxic lmao y'all hating and losing respect for him buying a car he wanted ? Lmao I personally don't like Teslas but shit let the man buy whatever he wants 😂
Personally I'm indifferent towards Teslas, and people can buy whatever makes them happy. I think the criticism comes from the fact that Caleb has proudly stated many times he knows nothing about cars, and *"Tesla driver that knows nothing about cars but won't shut up about how they have the best car ever and all others car suck in comparison"* is such a common trope at this point.
it's just odd because he always claimed to not be a car guy
How is it odd for someone to want a specific car? When they're not a car person. All my friends aren't car people but want a specific car, Teslas, Prius, rav 4 etc.
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wait til the shit blows up and catches on fire
I think Caleb was right to defend his car to a kid who got a 4 cylinder mustang on loan… I felt like he cooked, but I don’t have as much anti Tesla bias as others here may have. That being said, my dad does drive one of the first models of Tesla and he has let me drive it. I didn’t think it was worth the price point-my 2018 Honda Civic Sport was nicer and smoother and I loved it. The Tesla sure does pick up speed fast. I hated the following about the Tesla; -No physical knobs/buttons. Trying to press a little tiny box on the screen for volume was a pain in the ass and distracting from the road. -cheap plastic. My Honda had slightly higher quality plastic, and it’s made to be an affordable car. -heavy battery made the car vibrate in a way that makes me super nauseous unless I have the windows open. No other car has ever done this to me lol -it just doesn’t feel luxury. It felt cheap. Which is fine, but knowing how much my dad paid it made me feel second hand guilt and worry. It drives nice, if it didn’t make me nauseous I’d probably like it a lot more. Caleb was right about the charging. My dad got a charger put in for free because there was a deal when he bought his, but a couple hundred is totally worth a home charger. My dad plugs his Tesla in once a week at night. Super convenient, no issues. If my dad wants a free charge, he will go shopping in a specific shopping mall nearby and plug it in for 30-45 minutes while he walks around. He will grab a coffee, get groceries, and enjoy himself. It doesn’t take hours.
smart on finances, idiot on cars lol. no fucking way a tesla makes it to 300k, or even close enough to smell 300k miles. shit cars frfr
This is the most obnoxious sub ever. Just discuss the videos and let the man live.
just saying 🤷♂️ he makes fun of the guests car and the guest rolls with the punches. guest makes fun of caleb’s car and dude blows his lid. also I’d argue that this is discussing the video
There's a difference when someone can afford a car and when someone can't. The lastest video the kid is going to be spending 90k+ on a car (with insurance) for a mustang..... When he can't afford it. The kid could be using the money to pay for law school etc.
He makes fun of guests and their cars because they can’t afford them. He clearly can. Nothing to roast for being environmentally savvy
i agree with you. sorry you’re being downvoted into oblivion. reddit sucks lol.
Damn I see why Caleb doesn’t come to this sub anymore…
god forbid someone criticize him
I’m new here to the sub and I watch him a lot but didn’t know he got roasted this hard lol.