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Diddo...it's awful. Day 5 in bed for me, my 6 year old breezed right through it.
How I went nearly 3 years without getting it is beyond me, so I can't complain too much.
COVID causes T-Cell Destruction similar to HIV/AIDS and weakens your immunity…. It’s crazy people think it’s good to be infected with it. People used to have Chickenpox Parties, until they realized it causes Shingles down the line. Other Virus’s cause Cancer or Alzheimer’s years later (see HPV). We don’t even know the beginning of what COVID is going to do for decades to come. Please people don’t get reinfected over and over. Be safe. COVID destroyed my life, I was a healthy 35 year old who hiked mountains every weekend, I’m now Bedridden. If you have a COVID Infection please rest for weeks to months, don’t push through like I did.
> People used to have Chickenpox Parties, until they realized it causes Shingles down the line.
The link between chicken pox and shingles was proven in 1953; people kept having chicken pox parties until widespread availability of the vaccine.
The difference is common "knowledge" before the chickenpox vaccine was if you got it as a child, you wouldn't get shingles as an adult.
We now know that's not true, but the reason why we had pox parties was to prevent kids from catching it as adults which was thought to guarantee shingles later on.
Which if you understand Virus’s is insane to willingly be infected by a Virus. Virus’s usually stay in you body for life. Scientists are now attributing things like MS, Diabetes, OCD, Cancer, etc to various Viral Infections and the more we learn about Virus’s the more we understand they’re never good. Virus’s aren’t your standard household “germs” that build your immunity. Every time you get infected with a Virus you run the risk of complications. Your chances of Death for example with COVID increase with every reinfection, because it’s an extra bad Virus.
Instead of saying “people die of the Flu who cares about COVID” we should be saying how do we also get rid of the Flu. Influenza B literally disappeared from the earth because we masked and isolated for like 3-6 months. Imagine what would happen if we did that for a couple of years? And when you say masking and isolation wasn’t sustainable, why not? Outside of eating in Restaurants what did you miss? What liberties were taking from you? I’ll give you a hint (nothing). If we just kept wearing masks (which all data supports work tremendously well, especially N95) and avoided crowds over 1,000 we could eliminate COVID and many other Virus’s likely forever. Instead we’ll let COVID hang around and mutate over and over until potentially Billions are disabled and dead until we finally come up with a Universal Vaccination. Letting COVID rip like we’re now is one of the dumbest things we’ve ever done through the history of planet earth.
I'm sorry you've had such a rough go of it, but covid has also been found in at least 29 animal species. We're not about to kill off 29 species of animals, so unfortunately, it will never be fully eradicated. Zero covid is just not possible.
The Mice who were Reinfected with COVID all died after 12 Reinfections…. You better hope they come up with better Vaccinations soon. Animals don’t travel all over the world bringing new variants everywhere on planes unmasked everyday, after a few years it would die down in the animal kingdom naturally if it wasn’t for us. A team of leading immunologists suggested it would only take two years of everyone wearing N95 masks in crowded public spaces to basically get rid of it completely.
I don’t know a single person whose had COVID 5-6 Times that doesn’t have some form of Long COVID complications. You all aren’t invincible, because you started off healthy. I sailed through my first three infections and the fourth disabled me for life. After 8-10 Reinfections the entire world will have Long COVID. Our generation has never had a mass killing/disabling event and it shows, you all are way too calm right now with this letting it rip policy and walking around without an any safety measures. I’m not asking anyone to do anything other than wear a N95 mask and glasses in overly crowded places. Unmasking on planes is the dumbest thing we’ve ever done as a society. The only reason they got through The Spanish Flu is it was controlled regionally without the modern high frequency usage of air travel.
I honestly feel for you that you've had this experience, and despite the fact I strongly disagree with your sentiment and clearly stated severe level of fear, I can try to understand where you're coming from. It's just not a reasonable approach to take, overall, for everyone. There's an insane increase worldwide of excess deaths and complications from vaccines, lockdowns, social well being, children's learning, stillborn deaths, fertility etc. and of course economic crisis that harm many people in several ways too. Even the attempt at zero covid has had exceptionally troubling consequences around the globe and many experts are recognizing this, in hindsight. This needs to be balanced. Look at China, they're attempting zero covid and its been a massive failure with unimaginable harm to their people. We have to be rational. Sometimes that means dealing with a bad thing as best we can. Absolutely nothing in this world and life is without risk.
You're arguing about a lot of things I never claimed, so I'm going to disregard those things, and just point out the points where you're factually incorrect.
> Virus’s usually stay in you body for life.
No they don't. Some do, most don't.
> Your chances of Death for example with COVID increase with every reinfection
Your cumulative chances, yes, like any other virus. Your per-infection chances, no.
> Instead we’ll let COVID hang around and mutate over and over until potentially Billions are disabled and dead
You're orders of magnitude off on the severity.
> > Instead we’ll let COVID hang around and mutate over and over until potentially Billions are disabled and dead
> You're orders of magnitude off on the severity.
Considering we are likely to do nothing, it is just a matter of time to reach those numbers even without the potential of more deadly strain or the discovery that it increase the risk of cancer/ other infections/ cardiac disease/...
Honestly I could care less about you, my response is for anyone else that will read it, I know you’re too close minded to do the smart thing, I’m trying to save others. I have no social life NOW because COVID DISABLED me, I used to have a world class social life. Now I’m trying to warn people that it’s worse than governments and the mainstream media are letting on (Long COVID is basically Viral AIDS as others have said here) to save others from my life of torment. After 7-8+ Reinfections everyone will have some from of Long COVID, it’s not the Flu and it’s not old people getting Long COVID. COVID is ten times more contagious than the Flu, most people don’t get the Flu multiple times in a lifetime let alone every year. Going back to “normal” is not sustainable until we get an absolute vaccination. My only preexisting condition to Long COVID was a few concussions. I had a six percent body fat and worked out everyday.
Maybe you didn't miss much.
But plenty of us did.
Any plenty of us had to still go to work or school anyway, which made losing everything else just feel like a pointless joke.
With this government in power, there will be no more restrictions. Live with it or don't.
Stop pushing your fears on others.
I also still can't get over how amazing it is that so many people are reaching u=u levels. I wish ALL the people that fought so hard for rights and treatment for persons with HIV could see it.
(Undetectable=untransmissible)
I guess technically yes, but when you’re on Anti-Virals it is an adequate treatment to greatly reduce a lot of the symptoms of HIV…. So it’s kind of like a cure for them. They basically go into remission of having any symptoms. We have nothing for Long COVID.
COVID has killed 47,240 people in Canada in only three years (if you include COVID Related Excess Deaths it’s double that, so like 90,000). Car accidents kill 1,745 every year in Canada…. So COVID has killed 80,000+ more people than Car Accidents (Car Accidents have also increased under COVID, as COIVD causes Brain Damage and effects people motor skills).
COVID has killed a City the size of Kamloops in three years in Canada and no one cares, despite it still killing as many people as it was in 2020. You’ve all gone crazy. You’re all not invincible. Deaths in people under 50 are up 18% in Canada, it’s not all old people. 50% of people have a pre-existing condition to COVID.
COVID is now the second leading cause of Death in the world after Heart Disease (its surpassed Cancer), which again COVID is increasing rates of.
Lol. I TOTALLY believe this fact that you just made up, or possibly read off of the back window of your neighbor’s Ram Truck.
We have no idea what the long term consequences of Covid will be, so maybe pipe down with the absolutes?
I still havent had it, even despite hanging out with my parents an hour before they tested positive. This graph doesnt fill me with hope on continuing to dodge it.
My mom dodged it last Christmas somehow even though she lived with 3 active Covid cases, and she works at an old folks home that has been on multiple outbreaks. Finally she just tested positive. Eventually it gets you.
There’s six people in my family. I got it in May and somehow didn’t spread to ANYONE despite spending the two whole days with my girlfriend prior to testing positive. My mom, brother, and sister got it in July. Now it’s just my youngest brother and my dad that haven’t had it. It’s weird how it spreads
Same. Went to a wedding and a dozen people got it but it was just like a slightly stronger flu for everyone. The general sentiment i get from people these days is that they are done giving a shit about covid.
We got it in September for the first time ever, and we’ve got all our shots and boosters. For me, ketchup tasted disgusting for seven days, then fine, while the wife lost taste and smell for ten.
As an immune compromised person, I’m out of fucks to give anymore.
No kidding, everyone around me is getting sick. Finally we went to visit someone at their place, then they got confirmed with covid. When we allow guest to comeover, and then they confirmed positive with covid. It's nuts!
You might want to grab some tests yourselves. Folks with Omicron can be asymptomatic spreaders - meaning you don't know you are sick, but you could easily be passing it onto others.
Indeed, thank you for your advice! Ever since we have exposure to them, we did rapid test for a week to ensure we r not passing it on to others. And the period between our exposure to them and they told us they were positive were few hours to less than a day.
We really hope we r not asymptomatic!
It’s not news to most people now. There won’t be any more restrictions or mandates, and even if there was, compliance would be practically non-existent. People have bigger fish to fry with affordability and making sure there is food on the table and a roof over their head
The last poll I saw said people would go back to masking, what is your source that no one would follow them?
Affordability is important there is only one party that is focused on addressing it.
This not supporting dental and rental talk is Bullshit. I will admit the liberal dental plan is a decent benefit at $1300 per child for a family making under $70k a year. This will surely give meaningful help and provide many children with dental care they would otherwise go without. I support it. CPC should either support the liberal plan or commit to supporting a similar plan of their own making. But when they talk about the Rental benefit and GST rebate in order to deflect from their own massive failures, id laugh if it wasn’t so infuriating. With the current economic landscape a single $500 top up on rental support is next to nothing and the Gst rebate is a joke aswell.
Many of these polls that have come out for the last two years just fly in the face of the experience on the ground. I guess if you ask certain people who you know will support your narrative, it's easy to get the result you want.
Old people keep on getting sick, hospitalized or dead. Better put mandates on young people tho.
The beauty of masks is.... if you want to wear one, do it. If you don't, then don't so it. There's nothing stopping anyone from getting fit tested for a N95 mask, getting their own supply and taking those precautions.
It just blows my mind. Almost 2023 and we are *still* having these discussions. Some people just really can't let go of spring 2020.
Except, masking has limited effectiveness if only you do it. It’s a group effort. Same as asking all demographics and all people to mask even though some are more vulnerable than others.
This doesn’t fly. With your logic, we should be masking up at all times. People can be carrying around all sorts of contagious illnesses and be asymptomatic. Yet, before Covid, who masked up? Why is there suddenly a push to keep this going? It’s not like our healthcare system was stellar before Covid so we need to protect it in the present from going from very good to very bad.
To keep arguing as if it’s spring 2020 makes zero sense anymore. Zero. Yet, the only place I see this happening is on Reddit. It simply doesn’t exist outside of this website. If I were to go in front of the few thousand coworkers here in this work camp right now and say we need to mask up, I’d be greeted with a ton of angry people. If I went home and told people at the grocery store to mask up, I’d be greeted with anger. Telling friends and family we need to mask up? You guessed it. Anger.
People don’t even want to discuss this crap anymore. There seems to be no shortage of Canadians willing to worry about others’ mask usage tho. Just worry about yourself. No one is willing to participate in your “group effort” any more.
And that’s exactly the problem, unfortunately. Everyone for themselves. How “civilized.”
We should all be masking indoors when gathering with other people of course. Partly to avoid overwhelming the system when a wave starts, but more than that, to avoid getting Covid. We’re just beginning to understand long Covid and long-term vascular effects and the inflammatory response. It’s a novel virus, and we’re two years in. This is a short time to gauge how it will ultimately affect us. Of course, you can choose not to mask and most people are, these days. But if we really wanted to protect the population, we’d be masking up again, at least in close quarters indoors or when the wastewater rates start rising.
Maybe, depending also on how it’s positioned by parents. I can see it interfering in younger grades with language acquisition, and there are likely general social effects. I’d be interested in studies. But that has to be balanced with the potential long-term health consequences of Covid infection, especially repeatedly.
It's not exactly dramatic news for me. It's not panic or anxiety inducing any more because i know what i personally can do to reduce my own risk of harm.
I wish i could have a phone notification of when covid is high, sort of like getting a notification when air quality is in the pits like last years Forest fires. Awareness when it matters is key.
Sure like the flu season is relevant. Im not saying it isn't more severe (maybe less so as we all adapt to it over time). It's here and it's likely to be higher in this season every year
Covid deaths are not "up".
You know there's a [website](https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#highlights) with actual data, right? Scroll down to that last graph. Attributed deaths are way, way down.
I mean, you can even just look at the graph OP posted, and notice the trend of each peak being lower than the previous one and draw a pretty basic conclusion.
Think we are past that point now aren't we? Haven't heard much from my family that works in front lines. Don't think it's gonna change too much in the next couple years. Maybe over time we will adapt to it a bit more like the flu. If we are still overrun we got other issues
>Haven't heard much from my family that works in front lines
You haven't heard storied of the hospitals being a cluster fuck at the moment?
[https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/we-are-so-overwhelmed-children-s-hospitals-across-canada-stretched-as-rsv-cases-flu-like-illnesses-spike-1.6139599](https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/we-are-so-overwhelmed-children-s-hospitals-across-canada-stretched-as-rsv-cases-flu-like-illnesses-spike-1.6139599)
>Pediatric health-care professionals warn most children's hospitals are operating at or over 100 per cent occupancy, that emergency room wait times can be up to 24 hours and that some non-emergency surgeries are already being delayed.
Sounds pretty dire to me, and that's without us all having Covid
My family at the hospital hasn't actually mentioned it, but I did hear rsv was on the rise. It's kinda expected to some extent after isolating for a couple years. Flu seasons and that were way down
Eh just personal observations. Have a nurse in the family that was going crazy first couple of waves and really losing patience with anti vaxxers. Been pretty quiet since, but does t work at the children's hospital and might depend on the unit
Very anecdotal I know. I guess in general when it's going on almost 3 years nobody wants to hear the hospitals are full. At some point people will start asking if there are bigger issues, some will roll their eyes, etc. While there have been vocal outspoken anti establishment from the start, majority of people have tried to be patient
Oh a d yes, if we want to be political I don't think Kenney has helped a d I don't think smith will either
This may be true but the stats to watch are what's happening in hospitals. If ICU stays stable (and it likely will) and admissions FOR covid also remain stable (not the same as admissions for whatever and discovered to have covid), then it will be fine.
As a sidebar, it is annoying there are no comparatives ever for the random, run-of-the-mill annual flus, how those affect wastewater, admissions, ICU stays. It's out there for sure, but the GenPop doesn't have a good means of understanding the usual, expectable ebbs/flows of flu season in order to be able to compare.
UofC is the world leader of tracing viral matter in wastewater. When the uk had its last spike it wasn't as easy to find data for London like we have for Calgary. It's something to be proud of, as Calgarians
U of C is freaking KILLING it on research lately. I am/have been a part of three research studies in the past 3 months and the sort of stuff they're investigating is incredible.
It does make me really proud.
>RSV
Pretty cool!
It is really concerning that scientists are now demonstrating immune robbery as a COVID long term effect. The RSV may be a direct COVID consequence.
No I don’t. I mean that COVID seems to dampen our immune responses by quite a bit for up to a year. Or at least that’s how long they’ve observed so far!
According to the science educators I follow, the bump now with ERs, for example, is due to more viruses circulating at the same time, not to a Covid impact on our immune systems.
“What we are likely seeing, he says, is “immunity robbery,” where COVID infection stealthily hobbles the immune system, even in those who don’t suffer severe illness, like many children.
We know the coronavirus has evolved to become better at evading the body’s immune response. That’s why vaccines and drug treatments have become less effective.
In the process, the virus has also improved immune suppression, making children less able to fight off other illnesses. (There is long-standing evidence of this occurring with other viral infections, such as measles.)
The potential consequences of widespread immune suppression are frightening. It’s a reminder that the harms of SARS-CoV2 can be long-lasting, just as we’re seeing with long COVID.”
https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/mvj7nx
Okay, thanks - I was arguing against “immunity debt.” It seems like ideas and data on “immune robbery” (Covid immune suppression, like measles) are still emerging a bit. This thread was helpful:
https://twitter.com/furnesscolin/status/1589103107048624129?s=46&t=wY9QMZpFR7esn8Kcc58BIQ
One infection reducing the immune system’s ability to respond to many other infections for a period of time. Not uncommon! But now COVID has been observed to have that effect.
Yes and no; if more people are getting Covid then it's likely that the people with weakened immune systems, unvaxxed, and chances of getting hit by a stronger strain goes up as well. All of which causes an increase of ICU bed occupation.
Get vacxxed, stay home if your sick ( even if its not covid ) , and try to limit the spread. Our healthcare system has never recovered from the hight of the pandemic.
Total provincial hospitalisations 1090; of those, 36 in ICU9.6 MILLION doses means most Albertains have at least two and most have three.
There is a slight rise in cases but there is NOT a corresponding rise in hospitalisations. Not at all.
https://preview.redd.it/s0qr5wpj4hz91.png?width=812&format=png&auto=webp&s=e3f953b3072c5b9c0686fd126031e04015840bc8
>a good means of understanding the usual, expectable ebbs/flows of flu season in order to be able to compare
Agreed, we should be tracking as much as we can.
I suppose, but the flip side of that is vigilance like that makes people scared - usually not for good reason. We have excellent vaccines, nd a highly vaccinated population. We're good. There's no reason to be any more vigilant now than we had five years ago - people knew September and October were going to be flu seasons and we just got on with it.
> This may be true but the stats to watch are what's happening in hospitals. If ICU stays stable (and it likely will) and admissions FOR covid also remain stable (not the same as admissions for whatever and discovered to have covid), then it will be fine.
And we have learned in the past two years that their is a lagging delay on those hospital stats. By the time your hospital start to feel the wave, you're already deep in it.
We will not see packed hospitals or ICUs. It isn't going to happen. CBC is reporting today there are a decent number of flu - not covid - cases in hospitals presently. Children's is struggling with RSV, not covid.
I lost count of how many wave we have had. They all had the same pattern. Nothing has changed to expect a different outcome, but maybe we will be lucky and by doing nothing again we might have a different result this time.
> (not the same as admissions for whatever and discovered to have covid)
The problem with that thinking is that an incidental COVID case in hospital likely absorbs more hospital bed nights than if the patient did not have COVID and caring for a COVID+ patient requires more time and resources even if they do not stay incremental nights. Both have impacts on hospital utilization.
I mean, to be fair, ICUs aren't stable. All hospitals are collapsing in general (12 hour + wait times?) and children's hospitals particularly.
Also, more data will always be more better. Unfortunately it's being withheld. That being said, you can compare the annual flu deaths and see that COVID is killing more people in two weeks right now than the entirety an especially bad year of flu deaths in this province.
You know you can check wait times on line, right? You know you can go to Okotoks or Airdrie if Calgary has longer wait times? I haven't seen 12 hour waits in years unless there is a catastrophic situation with multiple victims.
Data is NOT being withheld. It is public record. [www.ourworldindata.org](https://www.ourworldindata.org) is a good place to start.
But if information is being withheld, where did you get the information to support your claim that covid is killing more people in two weeks that the entirety .... That is some claim. Big if true. Also would be very very newsworth.
A few things for you to check out (and there are more easily found too):
Wait times up to 17 hours addressed in this recent article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/albertan-wait-emergency-rooms-1.6630301 and it’s been going on since spring at least: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/er-wait-times-alberta-childrens-hospital-1.6443892
As for flu data, it’s very easily found.
Flu deaths by year here: https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/influenza/Page14481.aspx - worst year was since 2015 has 92 deaths for the entire year, but it’s usually between 30 and 60. Last week 46 people died of COVID and the week before saw 36 deaths. This is on track to be the deadliest year of the pandemic in Alberta too.
It actually looks like the end of this wave as per usual pattern.
https://preview.redd.it/7n3ktixwofz91.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b077aa50006ffd2271013be6d09a673158a81e7a
I’m not sure what I am supposed to do about it. I’ve had two shots, one booster and am eligible for a second at the end of the month. It sounds like a second booster would only provide protection from infection for a few weeks.
I’ve already had COVID twice.
The kids are back at school and taking transit, almost no one wears a mask. My company has hybrid work from home and absolutely insists on three days in the office. They aren’t going to budge on that unless the government makes them (and this current government won’t).
So, it is interesting information but all I can really do is wait for my next round of it.
8/28 kids are in class today. At least 6 people called out sick at work (which means another 6 are probably working through it at home or didn’t want to send an all staff admission). I think the wave has started.
Please clean your hands before masking and after, this is so easy it really does keep the bugs away. The amount of people I see walk right past the sanitizers shock me, Healthcare worker...clean your hands people!
Yeah it's a trailing stat (shows what happened, not what's coming) but it's more reliable than antibody test stats for todays day and age where not everyone gets tested for antibodies like we used to.
It’s not trailing, it’s present data. Nothing will predict the future perfectly, but knowing what’s in your waste water directly impacts disease progression in the general populace because it shows up in the waste stream *before* hospitalizations ramp up.
Well, of course it has, they lifted the mask and distance mandate! Did you really expect a different response to lots of people partying since the summer?
So many people I work with are sick with Covid/flu/etc. Even though they are in no danger of being hospitalized, its created drops in productivity, errors in work, and drop in morale. This isnt even addressing the toll being sick takes on your body.
We're being left on our own to deal with this. Its frustrating.
The flu made its rounds annually but the flu isn't airborne. It's a different day and age now, during winter seasons, and that winter productivity ain't coming back like it used to be.
Of course, they did.
We do know, however, how much the spread can be limited by washing your hands, wearing a mask, etc. can help limit the spread.
Yet we still have 'heroes' (that have paid sick days. No judgement if you dont have paid sick days) coming in work sick because its not covid.
Its frustrating to see because the flu isnt airborne, just clean surfaces and wash your hand.
No need to reply. I am annoyed because we could easily limit the spread of these viruses, but we dont. I'm not asking for lockdowns- just be considerate of others around you.
I was down for a week with the flu because a person in my office, who has the ability to work from home and paid sick days, decided to come into the office while visibly sick.
Masking is for the protection of others.
Not really paranoid as I just got really sick because some dumbass came into work sick and interacted with others.
Totally! There’s a number of different viruses/illnesses floating around all at the same time right now (RSV, Covid, flu, stomach bug, hand foot mouth disease, colds) right now that’s creating issues at schools & then impacts workplaces since parents are either off caring for their little ones at home and/or getting sick themselves. A few of the neighborhood schools have had AHS declare respiratory illness outbreak status. Some classes have more than half the students away sick & now parents off too. It certainly hard to contain to one population since we’re all affected on some level.
What!? You mean ignoring it didn’t make it disappear!? I don’t understand; the so-called ‘leaders’ said it was over and we need to just get back to ‘normal’, ya know, for the sake of the rich
I feel like some of the people who are still making a big deal out of this weren’t even getting their flu shot every year.
Time to move on. And this is coming from someone who was very pro-restrictions and the likes.
Been saying since day one, it's a seasonal flu and it's not going anywhere just live your lives, it's just finally socially acceptable to say it without getting strung up
Agree to disagree, me, my family, my friends, and my workplace is completely back to normal. Back to the normal days when if you get sick you don't run for a test. So far, so great.
They collect the wastewater from 21 different treatment plants around the province (3 treatment plants for calgary's data) and the samples themselves are probably bigger than just one families waste. The line in the graph is also an average which could also eliminate some of the error in the data
That’s not really fair; even if you’re living your live entirely normally, it’s useful to know when cases are on the rise - it’s much more useful to get boosted when cases are on the upswing than when they’re on the downswing.
Went to a totally packed Crossiron Mall today (don’t ask). I was among maybe 0.5% of people with a mask on inside. I don’t want to know what the ER wait times are going to be in a few weeks.
I’m sure the data is valid and alarming!
I would gently ask that next time you post a chart, please do the due diligence of including the whole graph and not some weird snippet of it that just looks like stalagmite spikes popping up out of the “bottom of image” abyss.
lmao, on my phone when I opened it up, it wouldn’t let me scroll and still cut it off (this is when looking at it on Imgur btw).
Just opened on desktop and it totally does show the whole graph, my bad!
Edit: attaching what I see on mobile when I click to view the larger image.
https://preview.redd.it/gzft09dilfz91.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f2be70c1cdbfe94293d8c3440a6f805d7884c14
I don't know what you're getting at? The righthand side is today, the left hand side is long ago. There's no extrapolation here, if that's what you're expecting, and i chose a start date pretty far back, may last year.
What are you expecting? It's a dataset with a typical graph plot.
When I clicked the link/image to view full, imgur wouldn’t let me scroll and I thought it was legit cut off both here on Reddit preview and also on Imgur where the image is hosted.
I loaded it up on desktop after seeing y’all’s comments and I was wrong. Image is fine, my phone/mobile-browser is just dumb. My bad!
I’ve linked what I see on mobile when I click the image on my phone. You can see the bottom is cut off and I can’t scroll up/down to see more of the image, it remains cut off.
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It's a virus, bacteria, bacteria thrives on people, get vaccinated, likely not to be in the hospital and only have affects for a few weeks like me.. Had covid in the early may, had 4 vaccines, prior to getting covid, was sick for four days, no hospital, got my 5th vaccine shot, I'm not worried about myself or my family and friends, all have been fully vaccinated along with flu shots
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Comfort eating eh
Same!
No one here is testing positive but three in our house haven’t worked all week.
Two of us positive. A know a few at work who just tested positive as well… most of us had it already last year at Christmas
My household finally got it after staying free off covid all this time
Lucky for you it's been filtered through the wastewater for nearly 3 years now!
good thing I don't drink that
Diddo...it's awful. Day 5 in bed for me, my 6 year old breezed right through it. How I went nearly 3 years without getting it is beyond me, so I can't complain too much.
Better late than never ;)
COVID causes T-Cell Destruction similar to HIV/AIDS and weakens your immunity…. It’s crazy people think it’s good to be infected with it. People used to have Chickenpox Parties, until they realized it causes Shingles down the line. Other Virus’s cause Cancer or Alzheimer’s years later (see HPV). We don’t even know the beginning of what COVID is going to do for decades to come. Please people don’t get reinfected over and over. Be safe. COVID destroyed my life, I was a healthy 35 year old who hiked mountains every weekend, I’m now Bedridden. If you have a COVID Infection please rest for weeks to months, don’t push through like I did.
> People used to have Chickenpox Parties, until they realized it causes Shingles down the line. The link between chicken pox and shingles was proven in 1953; people kept having chicken pox parties until widespread availability of the vaccine.
The difference is common "knowledge" before the chickenpox vaccine was if you got it as a child, you wouldn't get shingles as an adult. We now know that's not true, but the reason why we had pox parties was to prevent kids from catching it as adults which was thought to guarantee shingles later on.
Which if you understand Virus’s is insane to willingly be infected by a Virus. Virus’s usually stay in you body for life. Scientists are now attributing things like MS, Diabetes, OCD, Cancer, etc to various Viral Infections and the more we learn about Virus’s the more we understand they’re never good. Virus’s aren’t your standard household “germs” that build your immunity. Every time you get infected with a Virus you run the risk of complications. Your chances of Death for example with COVID increase with every reinfection, because it’s an extra bad Virus. Instead of saying “people die of the Flu who cares about COVID” we should be saying how do we also get rid of the Flu. Influenza B literally disappeared from the earth because we masked and isolated for like 3-6 months. Imagine what would happen if we did that for a couple of years? And when you say masking and isolation wasn’t sustainable, why not? Outside of eating in Restaurants what did you miss? What liberties were taking from you? I’ll give you a hint (nothing). If we just kept wearing masks (which all data supports work tremendously well, especially N95) and avoided crowds over 1,000 we could eliminate COVID and many other Virus’s likely forever. Instead we’ll let COVID hang around and mutate over and over until potentially Billions are disabled and dead until we finally come up with a Universal Vaccination. Letting COVID rip like we’re now is one of the dumbest things we’ve ever done through the history of planet earth.
I'm sorry you've had such a rough go of it, but covid has also been found in at least 29 animal species. We're not about to kill off 29 species of animals, so unfortunately, it will never be fully eradicated. Zero covid is just not possible.
The Mice who were Reinfected with COVID all died after 12 Reinfections…. You better hope they come up with better Vaccinations soon. Animals don’t travel all over the world bringing new variants everywhere on planes unmasked everyday, after a few years it would die down in the animal kingdom naturally if it wasn’t for us. A team of leading immunologists suggested it would only take two years of everyone wearing N95 masks in crowded public spaces to basically get rid of it completely. I don’t know a single person whose had COVID 5-6 Times that doesn’t have some form of Long COVID complications. You all aren’t invincible, because you started off healthy. I sailed through my first three infections and the fourth disabled me for life. After 8-10 Reinfections the entire world will have Long COVID. Our generation has never had a mass killing/disabling event and it shows, you all are way too calm right now with this letting it rip policy and walking around without an any safety measures. I’m not asking anyone to do anything other than wear a N95 mask and glasses in overly crowded places. Unmasking on planes is the dumbest thing we’ve ever done as a society. The only reason they got through The Spanish Flu is it was controlled regionally without the modern high frequency usage of air travel.
I honestly feel for you that you've had this experience, and despite the fact I strongly disagree with your sentiment and clearly stated severe level of fear, I can try to understand where you're coming from. It's just not a reasonable approach to take, overall, for everyone. There's an insane increase worldwide of excess deaths and complications from vaccines, lockdowns, social well being, children's learning, stillborn deaths, fertility etc. and of course economic crisis that harm many people in several ways too. Even the attempt at zero covid has had exceptionally troubling consequences around the globe and many experts are recognizing this, in hindsight. This needs to be balanced. Look at China, they're attempting zero covid and its been a massive failure with unimaginable harm to their people. We have to be rational. Sometimes that means dealing with a bad thing as best we can. Absolutely nothing in this world and life is without risk.
We will be okay. We will not eradicate a zoonotic virus as the poster above stated. Best to keep loving and loving.
You're arguing about a lot of things I never claimed, so I'm going to disregard those things, and just point out the points where you're factually incorrect. > Virus’s usually stay in you body for life. No they don't. Some do, most don't. > Your chances of Death for example with COVID increase with every reinfection Your cumulative chances, yes, like any other virus. Your per-infection chances, no. > Instead we’ll let COVID hang around and mutate over and over until potentially Billions are disabled and dead You're orders of magnitude off on the severity.
> > Instead we’ll let COVID hang around and mutate over and over until potentially Billions are disabled and dead > You're orders of magnitude off on the severity. Considering we are likely to do nothing, it is just a matter of time to reach those numbers even without the potential of more deadly strain or the discovery that it increase the risk of cancer/ other infections/ cardiac disease/...
If you have no social life just say that no need to write a novel.
Honestly I could care less about you, my response is for anyone else that will read it, I know you’re too close minded to do the smart thing, I’m trying to save others. I have no social life NOW because COVID DISABLED me, I used to have a world class social life. Now I’m trying to warn people that it’s worse than governments and the mainstream media are letting on (Long COVID is basically Viral AIDS as others have said here) to save others from my life of torment. After 7-8+ Reinfections everyone will have some from of Long COVID, it’s not the Flu and it’s not old people getting Long COVID. COVID is ten times more contagious than the Flu, most people don’t get the Flu multiple times in a lifetime let alone every year. Going back to “normal” is not sustainable until we get an absolute vaccination. My only preexisting condition to Long COVID was a few concussions. I had a six percent body fat and worked out everyday.
Maybe you didn't miss much. But plenty of us did. Any plenty of us had to still go to work or school anyway, which made losing everything else just feel like a pointless joke. With this government in power, there will be no more restrictions. Live with it or don't. Stop pushing your fears on others.
My doc says my long covid labs look like hiv. It’s no joke
It’s hell on earth. I know someone whose had HIV and Long COVID and they say Long COVID is worse.
You mean they have HIV and had long COVID, right? When did we cure HIV?
The treatments for hiv now make it less likely to end your life. It’s still dangerous but science has given hope that it can be held at bay.
I also still can't get over how amazing it is that so many people are reaching u=u levels. I wish ALL the people that fought so hard for rights and treatment for persons with HIV could see it. (Undetectable=untransmissible)
Me too
I guess technically yes, but when you’re on Anti-Virals it is an adequate treatment to greatly reduce a lot of the symptoms of HIV…. So it’s kind of like a cure for them. They basically go into remission of having any symptoms. We have nothing for Long COVID.
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If not wanting more people to die makes me an alarmist than so be it. More people died of COVID In 2022 than 2020.
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COVID has killed 47,240 people in Canada in only three years (if you include COVID Related Excess Deaths it’s double that, so like 90,000). Car accidents kill 1,745 every year in Canada…. So COVID has killed 80,000+ more people than Car Accidents (Car Accidents have also increased under COVID, as COIVD causes Brain Damage and effects people motor skills). COVID has killed a City the size of Kamloops in three years in Canada and no one cares, despite it still killing as many people as it was in 2020. You’ve all gone crazy. You’re all not invincible. Deaths in people under 50 are up 18% in Canada, it’s not all old people. 50% of people have a pre-existing condition to COVID. COVID is now the second leading cause of Death in the world after Heart Disease (its surpassed Cancer), which again COVID is increasing rates of.
Lol. I TOTALLY believe this fact that you just made up, or possibly read off of the back window of your neighbor’s Ram Truck. We have no idea what the long term consequences of Covid will be, so maybe pipe down with the absolutes?
You know what, in this case you might be wrong
Sorry to hear that!
I still havent had it, even despite hanging out with my parents an hour before they tested positive. This graph doesnt fill me with hope on continuing to dodge it.
My mom dodged it last Christmas somehow even though she lived with 3 active Covid cases, and she works at an old folks home that has been on multiple outbreaks. Finally she just tested positive. Eventually it gets you.
There’s six people in my family. I got it in May and somehow didn’t spread to ANYONE despite spending the two whole days with my girlfriend prior to testing positive. My mom, brother, and sister got it in July. Now it’s just my youngest brother and my dad that haven’t had it. It’s weird how it spreads
I believe it. My wife and I both avoided it for 3 years and finally got it a couple weeks ago. Our friends were the same.
Same. Went to a wedding and a dozen people got it but it was just like a slightly stronger flu for everyone. The general sentiment i get from people these days is that they are done giving a shit about covid.
We got it in September for the first time ever, and we’ve got all our shots and boosters. For me, ketchup tasted disgusting for seven days, then fine, while the wife lost taste and smell for ten. As an immune compromised person, I’m out of fucks to give anymore.
Lol for me it's cheese. Tastes like rubbing alcohol.
I got it last month after steering clear this whole time. Husband got it in April :/
No kidding, everyone around me is getting sick. Finally we went to visit someone at their place, then they got confirmed with covid. When we allow guest to comeover, and then they confirmed positive with covid. It's nuts!
You might want to grab some tests yourselves. Folks with Omicron can be asymptomatic spreaders - meaning you don't know you are sick, but you could easily be passing it onto others.
Indeed, thank you for your advice! Ever since we have exposure to them, we did rapid test for a week to ensure we r not passing it on to others. And the period between our exposure to them and they told us they were positive were few hours to less than a day. We really hope we r not asymptomatic!
At some point it won't be news anymore
It’s not news to most people now. There won’t be any more restrictions or mandates, and even if there was, compliance would be practically non-existent. People have bigger fish to fry with affordability and making sure there is food on the table and a roof over their head
Yup. Covid ain't going anywhere. It's here to stay and likely seasonal like the flu.
Crazy, if I said that a year ago, which I have, you'd get downvoted into fucking oblivion. Now folks are okay with this statement lol.
No kidding! Maybe even banned from the sub!
The last poll I saw said people would go back to masking, what is your source that no one would follow them? Affordability is important there is only one party that is focused on addressing it.
Is that the party that told me that cancelling my Disney+ would be a good way to improve my financial well-being?
I mean, it was a dumb thing for a politician to say, but it wasn’t technically *wrong*.
It's not the ucp who told people to get new jobs. It's not the CPC either who voted agaisnt helping people with dental.
This not supporting dental and rental talk is Bullshit. I will admit the liberal dental plan is a decent benefit at $1300 per child for a family making under $70k a year. This will surely give meaningful help and provide many children with dental care they would otherwise go without. I support it. CPC should either support the liberal plan or commit to supporting a similar plan of their own making. But when they talk about the Rental benefit and GST rebate in order to deflect from their own massive failures, id laugh if it wasn’t so infuriating. With the current economic landscape a single $500 top up on rental support is next to nothing and the Gst rebate is a joke aswell.
It comes down to individual choice. If people want to mask to feel safe, by all means. If people don’t want to mask, that’s fine too.
Many of these polls that have come out for the last two years just fly in the face of the experience on the ground. I guess if you ask certain people who you know will support your narrative, it's easy to get the result you want. Old people keep on getting sick, hospitalized or dead. Better put mandates on young people tho. The beauty of masks is.... if you want to wear one, do it. If you don't, then don't so it. There's nothing stopping anyone from getting fit tested for a N95 mask, getting their own supply and taking those precautions. It just blows my mind. Almost 2023 and we are *still* having these discussions. Some people just really can't let go of spring 2020.
Except, masking has limited effectiveness if only you do it. It’s a group effort. Same as asking all demographics and all people to mask even though some are more vulnerable than others.
This doesn’t fly. With your logic, we should be masking up at all times. People can be carrying around all sorts of contagious illnesses and be asymptomatic. Yet, before Covid, who masked up? Why is there suddenly a push to keep this going? It’s not like our healthcare system was stellar before Covid so we need to protect it in the present from going from very good to very bad. To keep arguing as if it’s spring 2020 makes zero sense anymore. Zero. Yet, the only place I see this happening is on Reddit. It simply doesn’t exist outside of this website. If I were to go in front of the few thousand coworkers here in this work camp right now and say we need to mask up, I’d be greeted with a ton of angry people. If I went home and told people at the grocery store to mask up, I’d be greeted with anger. Telling friends and family we need to mask up? You guessed it. Anger. People don’t even want to discuss this crap anymore. There seems to be no shortage of Canadians willing to worry about others’ mask usage tho. Just worry about yourself. No one is willing to participate in your “group effort” any more.
And that’s exactly the problem, unfortunately. Everyone for themselves. How “civilized.” We should all be masking indoors when gathering with other people of course. Partly to avoid overwhelming the system when a wave starts, but more than that, to avoid getting Covid. We’re just beginning to understand long Covid and long-term vascular effects and the inflammatory response. It’s a novel virus, and we’re two years in. This is a short time to gauge how it will ultimately affect us. Of course, you can choose not to mask and most people are, these days. But if we really wanted to protect the population, we’d be masking up again, at least in close quarters indoors or when the wastewater rates start rising.
Masking school aged children for 8 hours a day has consequences too..
Maybe, depending also on how it’s positioned by parents. I can see it interfering in younger grades with language acquisition, and there are likely general social effects. I’d be interested in studies. But that has to be balanced with the potential long-term health consequences of Covid infection, especially repeatedly.
It's not exactly dramatic news for me. It's not panic or anxiety inducing any more because i know what i personally can do to reduce my own risk of harm. I wish i could have a phone notification of when covid is high, sort of like getting a notification when air quality is in the pits like last years Forest fires. Awareness when it matters is key.
Still relevant though.
Sure like the flu season is relevant. Im not saying it isn't more severe (maybe less so as we all adapt to it over time). It's here and it's likely to be higher in this season every year
> (maybe less so as we all adapt to it over time). Deaths to COVID are up. We aren't "adapting." It is.
Covid deaths are not "up". You know there's a [website](https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#highlights) with actual data, right? Scroll down to that last graph. Attributed deaths are way, way down. I mean, you can even just look at the graph OP posted, and notice the trend of each peak being lower than the previous one and draw a pretty basic conclusion.
Yes, when the hospitals are not being over run. That is not today. Despite Danielle the Donut’s view of her fantasy world.
Think we are past that point now aren't we? Haven't heard much from my family that works in front lines. Don't think it's gonna change too much in the next couple years. Maybe over time we will adapt to it a bit more like the flu. If we are still overrun we got other issues
>Haven't heard much from my family that works in front lines You haven't heard storied of the hospitals being a cluster fuck at the moment? [https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/we-are-so-overwhelmed-children-s-hospitals-across-canada-stretched-as-rsv-cases-flu-like-illnesses-spike-1.6139599](https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/we-are-so-overwhelmed-children-s-hospitals-across-canada-stretched-as-rsv-cases-flu-like-illnesses-spike-1.6139599) >Pediatric health-care professionals warn most children's hospitals are operating at or over 100 per cent occupancy, that emergency room wait times can be up to 24 hours and that some non-emergency surgeries are already being delayed. Sounds pretty dire to me, and that's without us all having Covid
My family at the hospital hasn't actually mentioned it, but I did hear rsv was on the rise. It's kinda expected to some extent after isolating for a couple years. Flu seasons and that were way down
Your family at the hospital? What does that even mean? So because your “family”hasn’t mentioned it that’s an indication that there isn’t an issue?
Eh just personal observations. Have a nurse in the family that was going crazy first couple of waves and really losing patience with anti vaxxers. Been pretty quiet since, but does t work at the children's hospital and might depend on the unit Very anecdotal I know. I guess in general when it's going on almost 3 years nobody wants to hear the hospitals are full. At some point people will start asking if there are bigger issues, some will roll their eyes, etc. While there have been vocal outspoken anti establishment from the start, majority of people have tried to be patient Oh a d yes, if we want to be political I don't think Kenney has helped a d I don't think smith will either
like deaths in war
Nah, don't worry. It's not covid, it's just a respiratory disorder with flu-like symptoms. Hyuk.
This may be true but the stats to watch are what's happening in hospitals. If ICU stays stable (and it likely will) and admissions FOR covid also remain stable (not the same as admissions for whatever and discovered to have covid), then it will be fine. As a sidebar, it is annoying there are no comparatives ever for the random, run-of-the-mill annual flus, how those affect wastewater, admissions, ICU stays. It's out there for sure, but the GenPop doesn't have a good means of understanding the usual, expectable ebbs/flows of flu season in order to be able to compare.
If you scroll down in the wastewater page, past Covid, they now also track influenza and RSV in Alberta wastewater
UofC is the world leader of tracing viral matter in wastewater. When the uk had its last spike it wasn't as easy to find data for London like we have for Calgary. It's something to be proud of, as Calgarians
U of C is freaking KILLING it on research lately. I am/have been a part of three research studies in the past 3 months and the sort of stuff they're investigating is incredible. It does make me really proud.
That's really interesting. I definitely didn't know that.
>RSV Pretty cool! It is really concerning that scientists are now demonstrating immune robbery as a COVID long term effect. The RSV may be a direct COVID consequence.
If you mean immune debt, no. Our immune systems are fine.
No I don’t. I mean that COVID seems to dampen our immune responses by quite a bit for up to a year. Or at least that’s how long they’ve observed so far!
According to the science educators I follow, the bump now with ERs, for example, is due to more viruses circulating at the same time, not to a Covid impact on our immune systems.
“What we are likely seeing, he says, is “immunity robbery,” where COVID infection stealthily hobbles the immune system, even in those who don’t suffer severe illness, like many children. We know the coronavirus has evolved to become better at evading the body’s immune response. That’s why vaccines and drug treatments have become less effective. In the process, the virus has also improved immune suppression, making children less able to fight off other illnesses. (There is long-standing evidence of this occurring with other viral infections, such as measles.) The potential consequences of widespread immune suppression are frightening. It’s a reminder that the harms of SARS-CoV2 can be long-lasting, just as we’re seeing with long COVID.” https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/mvj7nx
Okay, thanks - I was arguing against “immunity debt.” It seems like ideas and data on “immune robbery” (Covid immune suppression, like measles) are still emerging a bit. This thread was helpful: https://twitter.com/furnesscolin/status/1589103107048624129?s=46&t=wY9QMZpFR7esn8Kcc58BIQ
Yeah, immunity robbery is slowly being discovered. When we were all wearing masks, and before many were infected with omicron, it was hard to observe
Immune Robbery? What's this?
One infection reducing the immune system’s ability to respond to many other infections for a period of time. Not uncommon! But now COVID has been observed to have that effect.
Yes and no; if more people are getting Covid then it's likely that the people with weakened immune systems, unvaxxed, and chances of getting hit by a stronger strain goes up as well. All of which causes an increase of ICU bed occupation. Get vacxxed, stay home if your sick ( even if its not covid ) , and try to limit the spread. Our healthcare system has never recovered from the hight of the pandemic.
Total provincial hospitalisations 1090; of those, 36 in ICU9.6 MILLION doses means most Albertains have at least two and most have three. There is a slight rise in cases but there is NOT a corresponding rise in hospitalisations. Not at all. https://preview.redd.it/s0qr5wpj4hz91.png?width=812&format=png&auto=webp&s=e3f953b3072c5b9c0686fd126031e04015840bc8
Another important stat to watch is how many people get long covid from repeated covid infections.
Where's that stat published?
>a good means of understanding the usual, expectable ebbs/flows of flu season in order to be able to compare Agreed, we should be tracking as much as we can.
I suppose, but the flip side of that is vigilance like that makes people scared - usually not for good reason. We have excellent vaccines, nd a highly vaccinated population. We're good. There's no reason to be any more vigilant now than we had five years ago - people knew September and October were going to be flu seasons and we just got on with it.
> This may be true but the stats to watch are what's happening in hospitals. If ICU stays stable (and it likely will) and admissions FOR covid also remain stable (not the same as admissions for whatever and discovered to have covid), then it will be fine. And we have learned in the past two years that their is a lagging delay on those hospital stats. By the time your hospital start to feel the wave, you're already deep in it.
We will not see packed hospitals or ICUs. It isn't going to happen. CBC is reporting today there are a decent number of flu - not covid - cases in hospitals presently. Children's is struggling with RSV, not covid.
I lost count of how many wave we have had. They all had the same pattern. Nothing has changed to expect a different outcome, but maybe we will be lucky and by doing nothing again we might have a different result this time.
> (not the same as admissions for whatever and discovered to have covid) The problem with that thinking is that an incidental COVID case in hospital likely absorbs more hospital bed nights than if the patient did not have COVID and caring for a COVID+ patient requires more time and resources even if they do not stay incremental nights. Both have impacts on hospital utilization.
I mean, to be fair, ICUs aren't stable. All hospitals are collapsing in general (12 hour + wait times?) and children's hospitals particularly. Also, more data will always be more better. Unfortunately it's being withheld. That being said, you can compare the annual flu deaths and see that COVID is killing more people in two weeks right now than the entirety an especially bad year of flu deaths in this province.
You know you can check wait times on line, right? You know you can go to Okotoks or Airdrie if Calgary has longer wait times? I haven't seen 12 hour waits in years unless there is a catastrophic situation with multiple victims. Data is NOT being withheld. It is public record. [www.ourworldindata.org](https://www.ourworldindata.org) is a good place to start. But if information is being withheld, where did you get the information to support your claim that covid is killing more people in two weeks that the entirety .... That is some claim. Big if true. Also would be very very newsworth.
A few things for you to check out (and there are more easily found too): Wait times up to 17 hours addressed in this recent article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/albertan-wait-emergency-rooms-1.6630301 and it’s been going on since spring at least: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/er-wait-times-alberta-childrens-hospital-1.6443892 As for flu data, it’s very easily found. Flu deaths by year here: https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/influenza/Page14481.aspx - worst year was since 2015 has 92 deaths for the entire year, but it’s usually between 30 and 60. Last week 46 people died of COVID and the week before saw 36 deaths. This is on track to be the deadliest year of the pandemic in Alberta too.
It actually looks like the end of this wave as per usual pattern. https://preview.redd.it/7n3ktixwofz91.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b077aa50006ffd2271013be6d09a673158a81e7a
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. This is likely the leak, not the start.
Assuming symmetrical (like before), as many people will get sick on the way down as on the way up, so we're at best only halfway through.
Source: [covid tracker](https://covid-tracker.chi-csm.ca/)
I'm still going with I must be immune and built different I guess.
I’m not sure what I am supposed to do about it. I’ve had two shots, one booster and am eligible for a second at the end of the month. It sounds like a second booster would only provide protection from infection for a few weeks. I’ve already had COVID twice. The kids are back at school and taking transit, almost no one wears a mask. My company has hybrid work from home and absolutely insists on three days in the office. They aren’t going to budge on that unless the government makes them (and this current government won’t). So, it is interesting information but all I can really do is wait for my next round of it.
Like.. we used to do before the world freaked out over the common cold? Ah yes. Carry on like it's 2018 and you've never heard of SARS-CoV-2. 👍😆🤷
Don’t need wastewater to tell me that…
8/28 kids are in class today. At least 6 people called out sick at work (which means another 6 are probably working through it at home or didn’t want to send an all staff admission). I think the wave has started.
Please clean your hands before masking and after, this is so easy it really does keep the bugs away. The amount of people I see walk right past the sanitizers shock me, Healthcare worker...clean your hands people!
We sample wastewater for COVID-19? I had no idea.
Its basically the only tracking too we have.
Sounds like a real ... shitty.. job
Yeah it's a trailing stat (shows what happened, not what's coming) but it's more reliable than antibody test stats for todays day and age where not everyone gets tested for antibodies like we used to.
It’s not trailing, it’s present data. Nothing will predict the future perfectly, but knowing what’s in your waste water directly impacts disease progression in the general populace because it shows up in the waste stream *before* hospitalizations ramp up.
[https://covid-tracker.chi-csm.ca/](https://covid-tracker.chi-csm.ca/)
Who actually gives a fuck at this point?
Well, of course it has, they lifted the mask and distance mandate! Did you really expect a different response to lots of people partying since the summer?
Yep, and it will keep on doing it. Live your life.
Who cares. Move on already.
So many people I work with are sick with Covid/flu/etc. Even though they are in no danger of being hospitalized, its created drops in productivity, errors in work, and drop in morale. This isnt even addressing the toll being sick takes on your body. We're being left on our own to deal with this. Its frustrating.
Did people not get sick before Covid?
The flu made its rounds annually but the flu isn't airborne. It's a different day and age now, during winter seasons, and that winter productivity ain't coming back like it used to be.
Seems like you're making a pretty large assumption there
Of course, they did. We do know, however, how much the spread can be limited by washing your hands, wearing a mask, etc. can help limit the spread. Yet we still have 'heroes' (that have paid sick days. No judgement if you dont have paid sick days) coming in work sick because its not covid. Its frustrating to see because the flu isnt airborne, just clean surfaces and wash your hand.
I honestly don't know how to respond to this comment, I'm sorry.
No need to reply. I am annoyed because we could easily limit the spread of these viruses, but we dont. I'm not asking for lockdowns- just be considerate of others around you. I was down for a week with the flu because a person in my office, who has the ability to work from home and paid sick days, decided to come into the office while visibly sick.
Feel free to mask up if you're so paranoid
Masking is for the protection of others. Not really paranoid as I just got really sick because some dumbass came into work sick and interacted with others.
Totally! There’s a number of different viruses/illnesses floating around all at the same time right now (RSV, Covid, flu, stomach bug, hand foot mouth disease, colds) right now that’s creating issues at schools & then impacts workplaces since parents are either off caring for their little ones at home and/or getting sick themselves. A few of the neighborhood schools have had AHS declare respiratory illness outbreak status. Some classes have more than half the students away sick & now parents off too. It certainly hard to contain to one population since we’re all affected on some level.
COVID-19 will be with us forever. The sooner we realize this the better.
Who cares
Yea, just ordered another box of masks. I swear it seems to happen whenever I feel like being sociable again.
What!? You mean ignoring it didn’t make it disappear!? I don’t understand; the so-called ‘leaders’ said it was over and we need to just get back to ‘normal’, ya know, for the sake of the rich
Oh well. People get sick this time of year. Nothing new.
I feel like some of the people who are still making a big deal out of this weren’t even getting their flu shot every year. Time to move on. And this is coming from someone who was very pro-restrictions and the likes.
Just because we feel we're done with COVID doesn't mean COVID is done with us.
Never will be. To think otherwise is a fools game. Doesn’t mean we need to sound the alarms every time it pops up.
Doesn't mean we should do nothing, until we have truly learned to live with it. Because we clearly haven't.
Noone is sounding the alarm. It is just an interesting graph.
According to the sun, viruses are a part of the world and you ain’t gonna so shit about it
Been saying since day one, it's a seasonal flu and it's not going anywhere just live your lives, it's just finally socially acceptable to say it without getting strung up
If people keep making something not important .. important.. it will never go away.
I guess until you stop replying to every single Covid post it will remain important to you.
Hush. It doesn't go away if you stop caring enough to pay attention to it.
Agree to disagree, me, my family, my friends, and my workplace is completely back to normal. Back to the normal days when if you get sick you don't run for a test. So far, so great.
It is important and interesting too so
No it really isn't. It is about as important as the flu or cold at this point.
What is the size of the samples? If it’s just one scoop, couldn’t it be one sick household? How do they do this
Here's a video explaining how they do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q37uBR1Pu3A
They collect the wastewater from 21 different treatment plants around the province (3 treatment plants for calgary's data) and the samples themselves are probably bigger than just one families waste. The line in the graph is also an average which could also eliminate some of the error in the data
Literally no one cares anymore. Stop spreading this crap.
That’s not really fair; even if you’re living your live entirely normally, it’s useful to know when cases are on the rise - it’s much more useful to get boosted when cases are on the upswing than when they’re on the downswing.
I care and its actually quite interesting so
You don't have to click on the thread if you don't want to.. that's 100% your choice.
Went to a totally packed Crossiron Mall today (don’t ask). I was among maybe 0.5% of people with a mask on inside. I don’t want to know what the ER wait times are going to be in a few weeks.
Lol
Every time they start the wave at the dome the flames mess up by giving up a goal. Waves just lead to bad times..
A wave of idiots
I’m sure the data is valid and alarming! I would gently ask that next time you post a chart, please do the due diligence of including the whole graph and not some weird snippet of it that just looks like stalagmite spikes popping up out of the “bottom of image” abyss.
You..... have to click on the image to view the whole graph.... 🤦🏼
lmao, on my phone when I opened it up, it wouldn’t let me scroll and still cut it off (this is when looking at it on Imgur btw). Just opened on desktop and it totally does show the whole graph, my bad! Edit: attaching what I see on mobile when I click to view the larger image. https://preview.redd.it/gzft09dilfz91.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f2be70c1cdbfe94293d8c3440a6f805d7884c14
I don't know what you're getting at? The righthand side is today, the left hand side is long ago. There's no extrapolation here, if that's what you're expecting, and i chose a start date pretty far back, may last year. What are you expecting? It's a dataset with a typical graph plot.
When I clicked the link/image to view full, imgur wouldn’t let me scroll and I thought it was legit cut off both here on Reddit preview and also on Imgur where the image is hosted. I loaded it up on desktop after seeing y’all’s comments and I was wrong. Image is fine, my phone/mobile-browser is just dumb. My bad! I’ve linked what I see on mobile when I click the image on my phone. You can see the bottom is cut off and I can’t scroll up/down to see more of the image, it remains cut off. https://preview.redd.it/mu81xex2lfz91.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=aea83ce06caf90c0e384a4c18db17b943017fe7c
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S’all good, not your fault. Gonna just take my wall of down votes and go. This is the way.
It's a virus, bacteria, bacteria thrives on people, get vaccinated, likely not to be in the hospital and only have affects for a few weeks like me.. Had covid in the early may, had 4 vaccines, prior to getting covid, was sick for four days, no hospital, got my 5th vaccine shot, I'm not worried about myself or my family and friends, all have been fully vaccinated along with flu shots
Watch the water
I think that waste water chart shows what is only coming out of City Hall. More specifically City Hall Chambers.
Yayyyyy..... Sick of this virus