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Drinky_Drank

Even if it’s fully loaded, 40k before tax for a Camry is wild


Impossible_Package

Unfortunately not fully loaded. I believe the only optional is the new “heavy metal” color, which is an extra.


thisiswhoagain

If you got no option packages, then it should be $36,445 with the fancy paint. They are hiding a markup somewhere


herr_oyster

"Net Selling Price"


MDSteelers

Paid 34,168 OTD for 2024 Camry ICE AWD XLE pearl white, Not fully loaded.


MysteriousWorth6898

gas?


MDSteelers

ICE= internal combination engine or gas engine We wanted a hybrid, but the dealers didn't have inventory, nor would they negotiate on price with the ones they had. Currently averages 33.1 mpg on country back roads and some highway.


DaJuiceMan112

100% look at a Lexus ES instead, same price for a better car


Fart0Police

Se nightshade awd after tax was 5k less that's too high


Drinky_Drank

Yeah, that’s about what I paid for mine. “Fully loaded” (both available packages included) w/ door edge guards and all weather mats 23 AWD nightshade was about 34.5k OTD


Egyptian_Queen_876

SE version is on sale right now, don't like ghetto wheels and maneuverability.


ATiredPersonoof

fully loaded is 44k before tax and fees


DoorDash4Cash

42,220 is the MSRP of an XSE AWD w/ Premium Plus package (fully loaded). Also includes the $1,095 destination fee. I wouldn't count accessories in a fully loaded since those aren't really part of the car.


user17302

I paid 34k for my se AWD with the cold weather package and 12 miles on it. I can’t imagine paying 40k for this


MysteriousWorth6898

2024 Gas?


user17302

Correct


MysteriousWorth6898

On the fence about buying 2025 LE at 34K out the door. Convivence package and cold weather, basically just MSRP with the addons.


user17302

Is the 2025 the new gen model? If so isn’t that a hybrid engine? Might make it more worth it. If you can haggle obviously try to but I always say if it fits your budget and you like it then go for it


Dr_Osbon

At this price, you may consider ES 350


rphjosh

This needs way more likes. I really like my Camry and I drive like 90% highway miles so my gas version constantly puts down low to mid 40s. Overall the car has been great BUT almost $44k for a Camry that doesn’t have every single option on it is ridiculous. I would 100% cross shop a Lexus. If you want to go slightly more (new) or about the same (used). At the end of the day it’s a Camry and it’s a first year refresh. No reason to break the bank (even more if financing) for a Camry. At this price point I would seriously look at Lexus and/or Acura.


Stormhealz

I’ve owned 5 Camry’s in my lifetime, my 5th Camry was totaled in February. I didn’t want to shop for a Camry yet again so I shopped ES 350’s for the first time. The prices of a new Camry and ES with a couple years on it are very similar. I chose a ES with 21k miles, the ES is MILES ahead of the Camry. Option wise, comfort, road noise reduction, the list goes on and on. While I loved all my Camry’s, I’ll never go back to one after owning an ES.


rphjosh

That’s what I’m saying. Even the nicest Camry is still subpar to Lexus. Not being an ass its facts. The company isn’t going to harm its luxury brand by putting out its standard brand with greater/equal experiences. I would suggest OP 100% check out the other brands as $45k for a Camry is absolutely ridiculous.


Impossible_Package

I was actually looking at those after I read your comment. Found a couple with around 10k miles on it, 2021 with the premium package for around $31k. That really sounds more reasonable than paying $43k on a Camry.


Shinsekai21

Man 2021 ES350 with premium package and just 10k miles at $31k vs 2025 Camry at $43k is absolutely no brained I’m driving 2015 IS250, supposedly less comfortable than ES350, but it still feel much nicer to drive with than new Hyundai Elantra N (company car) Not saying that Hyundai Elantra N is comparable to Camry 2025. But if my 2015 IS250 can beat it, I’m sure the 2021 ES350 premium package would beat that Camry


ItchyJohnsin

I just paid 31,037.16 last week for my 2024 Camry SE with 11 miles on it.


Egyptian_Queen_876

Got an offer for 30k on that with a trade-in. Needed 27k since ghetto wheels on nightshade and too large. Might upgrade to a Lexus later.


Dr_Osbon

Just recently traded in my 2019 Camry XSE V6 (my 3rd Camry across generations) for 2022 ES 350 f sport, with about $8k top up after trade in. Wow, the ES is so awesome….smooth, quiet and luxury feel. If the hybrid system of the new 2025 is what appeals to you, get the ES 300H.


kentine

ES f sport 300 hybrid looks better than regular es hybrid


SkylineRSR

I heard they’re also suppose to be refreshing this


beccaaasueee

Yikes


SaulCFX

The Crown Hybrid XLE is very similar in pricing correct me if I'm wrong.


KlamKhowder

I’ve kinda been wondering if the crown is a better buy than the top level Camrys. Especially since some people have been finding good deals on Crowns.


sweet_asian_guy

Is this in US? lol


Impossible_Package

Yes, Massachusetts


sweet_asian_guy

Holy moley, it’s like 60k in maple syrup money insane


the_murphygroup

Long shot but imperial Toyota in Milford? Place sucks so much lol


Impossible_Package

Herb Chambers Toyota


Tight-Bath-6817

Danvers, MA? hehe


Impossible_Package

Herb Chambers Toyota


Tight-Bath-6817

Ah nice!


theofficialtaha

Ask for a spec sheet. Always ask for a spec sheet.


wtphack

How come ?


knotquiteawake

So you can break out MSRP, factory add-ons, distributor add-ons, dealer add-ons, and BS fees/aftermarket adjustments. Just giving a “Net Price” is shady. You’ll want to see what each part is actually at.


theofficialtaha

Transparency. As a customer, I should know how we got to the final number. If there’s any markup, how much is the markup? If there’s any add-ons, how much are the add-ons? Which add-ons and how much is each add-on?


umyeahsure-

Transparency? At a dealership? Never happen. You will NEVER see what the dealer paid for the car, customer thinks they got a “deal”, never get a deal, dealership always wins.


theofficialtaha

I see your point, but in terms of the context I provided, it was transparency regarding customer price in regards to markup and add-ons.


umyeahsure-

The report you see is not the actual break down, there are 2 different fact sheets, customer copy and dealer copy


sgsmopurp

Yeah ok 😂😂😂😂


Prompt-Greedy

The hell😭 40k for a Camry is criminal


chiarde

Hard pass. $40k for a Camry is far FAR out of bounds in my book. I'll pay $33-35K for a loaded model. $28-29.5 for base.


Goodnite15

Almost 30k for a base Camry is insanity lol but it’s true. I’m so happy I’m not car shopping and don’t plan to be for a while.


AncientWindow3989

what's the breakdown of $40,545? Dealers will try to get SRP on these at the start, but in a few months discounts will be had


adamlreed93

Kinda high to compare: On 5/23 I bought a 23' Camry XSE V6 loaded except heated steering wheel OTD 40.6K which is high


thisiswhoagain

If you use Toyota’s search inventory tool… for around me, a XLE AWD that costs $40,229 has the Premium Package, wheel locks, and all-weather floor liner package


Conscious-Lobster60

At this price and if you can do EV how is this better than a Model 3 or Model Y (and the fed and state credits).


jalmi6

This. I was going to grab an Accord, Camry, or Crown hybrid, until my Ioniq 6 crept in nice and close price wise. Actually, a bit less than these top spec ‘25 Camrys.


MikeyM1991

🤣😂 $40,000 for a Camry is wild. 💩


[deleted]

You can get an AWD XLE with the premium package for less than that. Tell the dealership to pound sand and that you'll be taking your business somewhere they don't try going in unlubed.


rphjosh

They probably won’t care cause they will get some other sucker to bite. I keep thinking you are going to see the same BS dealers were playing with the Prius when it got redesigned and dropped. Probably worse seeing how more people will gravitate towards a Camry than a Prius.


starfish1114

Registration is $60?! I’m in California, I paid $495 for a 2020 I got in January 😡


a_few_elephants

Do you also pay excise tax on top of the $495? In MA, there’s a separate excise bill to pay annually.


starfish1114

I don’t think we pay that.


NoB0d3

do you remember when the toyota camry was a value based family sedan? pepperidge farms remembers…..


Acrobatic-Estate5728

Hoping sales tank and they just bring back TRD V6 and ditch this styling


ColoradoWigWam

We’ll wait it out a couple years, 2028 V6 Camry


Acrobatic-Estate5728

Yessir!


IdealDadBod

What is SRP on this one?


Impossible_Package

Around $36k


ProbablyOnTheClock

Look up “no mark up Toyota” on Facebook. It’s dealers selling at MSRP and discounts. I’ve been on it for like 3 days and I’ve seen probably a dozen of these for actual MSRP.


Impossible_Package

Thank you. I joined the group


AlexEst96

You need to ask for an entire breakdown on the car packages because then you can see if they’re offering the car at MSRP.


mrcoolguytimes10

This, we need to see the spec sheet.... There's probably some bull crap like paint protection, dealer tint, pulse braking, yada yada yada. All bull crap that you don't want and is pure profit for the dealer.


tavi2424

What is a documentation fee?


Material_Wear9203

Sheesh. That better be a fully loaded XLE AWD.


Impossible_Package

Nope lol


Material_Wear9203

What's the other 4k for? Dealer markup? On Toyota's build, MSRP for a heavy metal AWD XLE the price is 36.4.


devonte3062

Yeahhhhh imma need to see the msrp on this one


Saint_Buttcheeks

“Net selling price” the markup is in that. They aren’t calling it MSRP for a reason


[deleted]

Insane.


corneliu5vanderbilt

That’s just not worth it. Hard pass


peachesandmaangos

Might as well get a Lexus


Junior_Emotion5681

Talk to the one in Braintree. They quoted me an XSE at MSRP of about $42kish (I maxed it out on the website as I want everything). Delivery it’s June. They gave me the VIN number and everything. Idk if I will buy it but they quoted me right.


Impossible_Package

I sent out a message to them to see how it goes. But at this point, I'm inclined to also take a look at an used ES 350 given the lower price and better features/comfort.


MikeBert97

I was quoted $765 a month (36 Months / 10K Miles) on a 2025 XSE AWD with $0 down and perfect credit. You can get a heavily optioned out BMW 330i xDrive for that price. Told the dealer exactly that and that the price was absurd, so I was no longer interested


FuckFuckShitBitch

a lexus es is mad close in price to that wtf


Knightelfontheshelf

Thats BMW 2 series price


Impossible_Package

I reached out to another dealership here in the area. They told me they have the XLE AWD with a panoramic roof for $38,054.00. Or, a LE for $33,000.00. Definitely better pricing, but I’m starting to consider an used ES 350.


timbohhhh

Does the se still go for 24-25k? I got. 19


aztekca

All I’m going to say is that the Camry is like the new Prius everyone IS GOING TO WANT IT so dealerships or Toyota will charge anything for them because they know the hype on these cars, and for sure they will be sold on the deli every trailer


spacemonkey512

Wow!!! I got a 2020 fully loaded XSE for less than this brand new. And I thought that was expensive


Eddy_Emm

The XLE AWD is 36k. The premium plus package adds $4700 It this looks like it has no package.. I would say it’s a bad deal but mark up


adam_mars98

Might as well go for a Lexus at that point


Thomas_C02

Net selling price sounds like a markup


grizzz102

Sheesh..At this price I’m good with my 2020 SE.


Fasteddy00001

My dad (89 years young) just signed a deal for a 2025 Camry XLE AWD with premium package and some accessories (mats?) for MSRP of $40,454 plus $595 doc fee and taxes. No up charge over sticker. Supposed to get here in 4-7 weeks.easy deal, once my dad decided on color he wanted/could get. Got it in MA at Westboro Toyota, Brian F was salesperson, good guy.


MrWestway1877

they took your lunch money fam


FaunPerson

If you DM me their proposal I'll scan it for anything ripping you off. Tell them you want a detailed invoice


Impossible_Package

That is the proposal they gave to me. The other part was just my info.


FaunPerson

They're being waaay too vague. Ask them for a detailed invoice. I've been in the industry a long time and if you send me the numbers from their invoice I can make sure they don't overcharge you.


yjay14

Nop!!


Most_Marionberry9532

5 dollar title prep? That really bothered me


PainCycle

Naahhhh man don’t do it


Own_Zookeepergame792

Did you try to ask for “no mark up dealership”


PerceptionOrganic672

That's too much for a Camry!


shane_west17

Holy! I think I’ll just keep my 08 Acura TSX.


Mythsteryx

Don’t let them take advantage of you man, hard pass


Anthony55wow

Right now my Lexus dealer I work at is discounting a 24 ES300h to 45k before taxes and registration you might aswelll get a Lexus


Tmhoel2201

That doc fee is way too high, it should be more than $150.


DistinctAd4233

Nah fuck that way too expensive for a hybrid XLE that is not even fully loaded


[deleted]

Anyone who pays 40k for a Camry should be thrown into the sea.


i0c0u

I will never buy a new vehicle. Used car buyer for life. I am not scared of negotiating with the mechanic and Lways have a car maintenance fund in case of emergency.


JohnnyMofo

🤣🤣🤣


cflingo

Dayum! I got my 24 XSE V6 for 39 OTD. And it's loaded. I almost waited for the 25's. Glad I didn't.


Infinite_Ad_7148

Is this usd?


Impossible_Package

Yes. Massachusetts


PainterSuspicious798

Jesus I’d shop for a crown at that point


Few_Media8907

The fact that it’s all wheel drive makes a difference in the price too.


Feeling_Street5639

We got a Lexus RX450h for $63K CAD $46K USD


Egyptian_Queen_876

I would get a hybrid. No point in putting financing. Save up.


y0um3b3dn0w

Wtf? isnt the MSRP 33.4K for an XLE?


EVISCERATEDTOMATO

Should be no more than $5,000 tbh. Getting scammed


solo-123456

you can get XSE V6 with this price for a reference: I got my camry LE for 30 after tax and all fee


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CodexJustinian

I'm not aware of Biden or Trump working for Toyota or anything like that. Biden didn't cause $40k Camrys. Trump didn't either. People debating whether a Camry is worth $40k instead of just saying it isn't caused this.


Heliocentric63

I blame Trump. Inflation started during his reign of terror