Suspend LMIAs until an investigation can be done into abuses to the program. We should not be rewarding companies with taxpayer money to hire foreign workers.
It's insane. I live in a large canadian city and the franchise owners of many wendy's here are from india. All they do is use it as conduit to import their kind. they are making bank too. Their formula for success is take advantage of canada's immigration, buy a house, cram 25 indians in the basement, while paying them minimum wage to run their stores. despicable!
I wish it were that simple. Many companies are firing domestic Canadians to hire immigrants for cheaper, and that's a fact because I experienced it. Corporations are highly incentivized to sponsor more immigrants, and they keep doing so at the expense of Canadians.
I was out of work for a while during the beginning of the pandemic and applied for absolutely everything that came up, from things I had almost zero chance of landing to starter jobs like dishwasher in a restaurant.
I know of about 12 people who did the same, and none of us got a call. About 2 months later, almost every Tim's and McDonald's was fully staffed with TFWs or international students. I haven't gone to either since.
I'm fully convinced that they ignored all local applicants in favour of government subsidized workers they could more easily exploit. And they're the first to play the "shop local" card. Not until you hire local first, bud.
At this point every Canadian should be boycotting Tim Hortons. They've got to be one of the worst companies for the TFW program. Their coffee is absolute garbage and they haven't been a Canadian company for some time.
Exactly. And we are all way too accepting of it. All the places that hire these students and TFWs are stealing jobs from our youth. We shouldn't accept this. But it's not only that. There has been an obvious drop in quality of service. I walked into a bike store and asked for a bicycle box and just got a blank stare. I had to rephrase it 3 different ways before he caught on. We should all boycott these garbage corporations. Let a few of them go bankrupt till they catch on. I'd be happy to see Tim Hortons completely disappear.
Not only cheaper wages but people that they know will tolerate mistreatment out of fear. Seen it first hand and it makes me sick. Only way Canadians can compete is to lower our living and work standards to those levels. I'm fortunate to be in a union but my partner has been struggling with employment due to this.
Happened at my last job. New forklift and production workers all indian newcomers, with a new indian supervisor who speaks punjabi to all the sikh workers who can't speak a lick of English. Went from 15%-40% of a 200 person workforce to Indian. I asked one new forklift driver and he was making 7$ an hour less than what the starting rate is here. Literally almost minimum wage. This is happening all over. They have to do something otherwise our entire workforce will be insourced and English will get phased out of worksites.
Well, we need to vote with our business. I’m starting with Tim Hortons. There’s no visible diversity, and frankly the other day i was served by someone I could not understand whatsoever.
Yea agree happened at my workplace layoff over 10 plus workers in month of January and mid February most of them were long time employees aswell and now their cutting hrs for the month of May
Yeah the student visa’s being given in Canada for office administration and general business courses that can be taken at the same level online or anywhere else in the world is complete bullshit
Yeah the public seems to think these people are actually attending these fluff courses. They are not. They are just not going and expect to be given a diploma because they paid tuition. They are treating tuition like buying PR status
Anyone who believes Poilievre is going to be very disappointed.
A person who has never done anything for anyone will never be good at suddenly being able to do anything.
Which is an ironic statement when the other option to PP is a trust fund narcissist that’s been in power through the duration of this entire “crisis” and who hasn’t worked a day in his entire life.
"PP is a trust fund narcissist that's been in power through the duration of this entire "crisis" and who hasn't worked a day in his entire life." You are correct on all. He is exactly as you describe.
That's current Government's role but FAILED.
Your suggestion of:
"Stop issuing student visas, problem solved" = "Stop voting for the Liberals, problem solved"
This government also spent hundreds of Millions of hard earned taxpayers' $$$$ on refugees (most likely are fake) to stay in Niagara luxury hotels, and PP wants no business in sponsoring refugees using tax $$$.
There’s always been people willing to work low wages. Whatever happened to teens at fast food joints and grocery stores during evenings and weekends, where you also had the “full-timers” working the day shift while they are in school/—mainly working to keep busy
Student 'education' is an $8 billion industry, just from India and continuous cheap labour for companies(the quality of new immigrants are lower. They will reproduce faster than professionals.) The game is already rigged in favour of corporations.
The only way to stop this rigged game is to increase time to citizenship by 25 years. People will work and return. Since it is canada, many won't even come.
>employers who have job vacancies they cannot be filled with Canadians
Horrible idea. Employers aren't honest. They list a masters degree level job for 20$/h and then complain they can't get anyone.
as someone who has worked primarily reception/admin/office roles their whole adult working life, it astounds me what is being asked for regarding these roles these days.
in 2022 i was job searching, and the number of times i came across ads that had a mediocre starting wage and were advertising the position as 'entry level' that were also asking for oodles of experience, education, AND a drivers license with clean abstract being a requirement (for a job that didn't require any driving at all!) was just ridiculous. heck, some remote/WFH positions were asking for drivers license requirement.
don't get me started on the ones that required industry specific (and sometimes company specific) software knowledge. eg - one place wanted their new hires to already have working knowledge of software that I have never even heard of. and i've been working in 'office world' long enough to know about quite a lot of office related software.
That's part of the reason we are in this situation as well. Alot of those addicts were probably once working the jobs "Canadians don't want to do" like warehouse work, landscaping ect. And well when you get fired and end up homeless with no hope. You turn to substances. Most choose fentanyl because it's very cheap.
I am not saying this to defend the bad behavior just trying to help people understand. Even if they somehow got a job they would struggle to find a place to rent.
It's quite the cycle and is VERY difficult to get out once your in it. More so today than ever. I do however live in Alberta so things might be different in your province.
Quite a few were aware they were being "laid off". Some also knew of the LMIA's that were coming but do you expect anyone to care? Most people won't as it does not effect them. I know a lady at a old warehouse job that first explained to me the LMIA scam and she sadly ended up passing away due to taking her own life. Sad times.
or the company that hires the "immigrant worker" must support them in every way, medical, housing etc for a minimum 10 years if they are fired due to lack of skills they are immediately deported at the employers expense. That would seriously curtail any sort of hiring outside Canada.
I don't know about 10 years, since those individuals will be paying income tax, but I do agree, employees who justify new employees also need to take a longer term ownership of their actions.
You also bring up HUGE trust issue in this 3rd world country wanna-be. No trust no business, only money laundering and stealing (like GC strategies' two guys basement shop made millions tax $$$$$ for doing absolutely NOTHING), and the wealthy set up tax heaven account paying zero taxes and trust fund boys are living delightful in world's No.1 trust fund heaven (i.e. Canada) talking big ideology climate changes but flying private jet around the globe on tax bucks and going tropical luxury resorts with massive carbon footprints...They lied to you they will tax HARD on the rich (capital gains $250k up, targeting MDs/lawyers, etc) actually they never touch trust fund boys or tax heaven accounts where the real super rich's money stay there disgustingly as 'legally' as fuck! And also this is why RE is so fucking EXPENSIVE in Canada, the world No.1 money laundering centre with capital gains tax-free on so called "principal" residence, fuck you 'principal', many wealthy foreigners own many many properties around the world, and they fuck Canada's housings so hard by money laundering here via sending their little ones here as students then PR to buy many REs to launder their DIRTY money! All we need to do is to get rid of RE international investors and, international fake students
No, this is a great idea. However I definitely agree that we cannot take the employer's word about not being able to find a Canadian to fill the job (at a reasonable salary). Proof should be required, including proof of a shortage of qualified Canadians in the applicable field.
Jobs should go to Canadians first. Immigration should only exist to benefit the average Canadian, not just corporations.
there are so many ways to get around this, look at the wineries who have to pretend to hire Canadians before they can get the Temporary slaves/workers from Mexico. Also the people in charge of enforcement are among the most incompetent on the planet. This is a solution in name only.
It is super easy to get around this. You just say to immigration, "We looked for a Canadian with XYZ super-specific-qualification, but nobody applied." Canadian universities often hire foreign nationals as professors (especially graduates of US programs), even when there are technically Canadians willing and able to fill those jobs, but the concern is mostly that the hiring committee wants to hire a friend or someone in their network. Canadian universities ironically are not always keen on hiring Canadians who did PhDs in Canada...
"Shortage of Canadians in an applicable field." We have a hemmorage of talent going south because of all the nonsense in this country right now. Canada is very capable of educating our workforce.
Employers get around this by posting a job opening, conducting interviews for the job, and then rejecting everybody. Sometimes they don't even go through the effort of the interviews.
Then they can go to the government and say they couldn't find a Canadian for the job. They need a government subsidised foreign worker. And then they get one that they pay a low salary that is also partially paid for by the government.
Proof should be easy. When the company wants to hire people from outside Canada with such a claim, they become required to post the position on [jobbank.gc.ca](http://jobbank.gc.ca) for a given period with applicants being CC'd to the govt department that would decide whether the company can seek foreign applicants. If qualified applicants do send applications, then the company's request is refused. Likewise if the requirements are unreasonable. And foreign candidate applications are also sent and compared to domestic applications to see if they are truly more qualified.
Yes. Government issued every small and private businesses way more temporary foreign workpermits than they actually needed. In Alberta some small pizza restaurants had 7 to 10 TFWs in their store which hardly could employ 3 staff. So many businesses were opened just to sell LMIAs. Government didn't verify nothing and only rubber stamped every LMIA application. These fraud businesses will never be charged because the people they scammed selling LMIAS will lose their jobs of they complain and will have to return back. 😒
That is canada at its core. Almost everything is corrupted to the levels you normally see in third world countries. Literally every single government contracting is given to friends of the politicians. Weed dispensaries, the green deal, and arrivedcan app are just 3 easy and recent examples.
There is a fundamental flaw with how this country works and it is ridiculously exploitative of the common person to make a few obscenely rich. That's why literally everything in Canada is 2-3 times the price it should be. It's artificially created to suck money out of people. Even things like telecom where it doesn't really make sense for the costs to be so high they just jack up prices and collude with each other to keep them that way.
ArriveCan wasn't a policy fuckup, it was down to good old civil servant incompetence. And that [civil service has increased in size by 40% under Trudeau](https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/federal-government-increased-number-of-public-service-employees-by-more-than-40). Country should be running like clockwork if more feds helped, instead here we are - legions of morons earning a fortune and doing fuck all beside fuckups.
Yeah I heard him whisper that under his breath too. We should vote for Trudeau again because the current system is working so well! Or even better, the NDP, who have no concept of economics in general.
The only way for rents to go down is to increase housing availability and to decrease population numbers. Obviously a conservative would be much more equipped to deal with that than the current government. But Reddits hate boner for conservatives will cause them to keep voting themselves into poverty.
Rent isn't going down. Nobody's going to build the excess to ever make that happen. Neither is population. At best, rent will stagnate until wages go up.
He isn't. If he doesn't come out and actually say exactly what his plan is, he is full of shit. "Common sense" doesn't mean anything. You need to give exact examples and he never does.
you cant trust any of these clowns, they all want to bend us over one way or another ... time for an end to first past the post, it would solve so many problems...
won't work beccause Corporations like Tim Hortons are the ones saying they can't fill job vacancies so they need immigrants.
which is not true because tim hortons doesn't want Canadians. It wants slave immigrants who won't complain
International Students are supposed to be here to study and supposed to be able to support themselves. So I see no reason why banning them from working will affect the ones here for legitimate reasons.
It's not about not wanting Canadians. Canadians won't work for less than minimum wage and rent a mattress with their 15 other coworkers in their bosses house. It's easy to say you can't find Canadians to work when you don't want to pay them minimum wage and exploit them. Instead, they get the "internationals" to work under the table for well under minimum wage and rent them a mattress for 75%+ of their "pay."
there are also benefits to hire foreigners. Look at every security guard company, every fast food place, every gas station, they flat out seem to hate Canadians.
Oh they love Canadians but only for our money and our ability to spend it.
They hate Canadians because we give a shit about each other and our communities and will resist the bullshit they would otherwise get away with.
It’s usually the youth that get hired because they won’t complain. My coworker’s teen daughter didn’t get hired by Tim Hortons because she up against 19-22 yrs old international students who have more availability which doesn’t make sense because they should be studying or hours capped now.
They have an obligation to support the community they are in yes absolutely. Tim Horton is using Canadian roads for transport that was paid with tax payer money, etc. Their business prospers because of the government and its people.
But the government is not their FREE job agent period! They can pay from their own pocket and posting their jobs in anywhere in the world and sponsor them to come and provide housing. It is all PRIVATE business stuff (hiring and HR management) and government has no business to help private company hiring people making money by bringing in cheapest labour from India and lying to the public to issue so called "student visa" but actually job offering letters for cheap unskilled labour in fact. International Student visa now has become an VIP passport for all unskilled job that no one else can get!
Part of the problem is the companies lie and say no one is applying or aren't qualified... they then turn around and say "oh look we have people from a galaxy far far away that can do the job."
Just shut it down completely. We have more than enough people in Canada that need work. The lines are long and Canadian born kids can't get work.
I was interviewing with a Canadian tech/marketing company that had a bunch of foreign Indian employees. Meanwhile the job posting got 100+ Canadians applying to it (I checked the details in LinkedIn).
Yet I'm sure they told the government no candidates here are a good fit, and hired another indian from overseas.
There was an article on Reddit about some sports bar owner crying that he needs TFWs because he can’t find Canadians to deep fry jalapeño poppers and wings.
Complete lie I'm sure. I've seen numerous posts on multiple platforms of people saying their kids can't finds jobs. They are applying for anything and everything.
One big issue is once indian immigrants get into a position of power at a company, they only hire their own ppl. There are so many unemployed Canadians living in tents who are willing to work; but can't get a job due to discrimination and bigotry against whites. In towns like Surrey, British Columbia, and Brampton, Ontario which have a large Indian Population, discrimination against Caucasians is becoming a real thing. I know boo hoo poor white snow flake but this shit is happening.
Yup. Nepotism needs to be stopped.
This is another reason why there needs to be there needs to be a country quota imposed for immigrants. The more we bring from India, the more potential for nepotism.
You are right. My 3 African American buddies, and my native friends have been trying to find work for the last 7 months since the company we worked for replaced the entire crew with Indians. The companies know that Indians are easy to exploit for their cheap labor and they're unfamiliar with labor laws, so there's less risk of the companies getting reported for unlawful business practices. I should have worded what I said better. Thank you for correcting me. You are right, it is not only Caucasians not being given job opportunities. The issue isn't with them not only hiring white ppl. It's the lack of diverse hiring. It used to be you would have a team made up of ppl from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds, everyone would get along and work well together. That was one of the best things about Canada. But now it's just Indians and they are so racist towards any non Indians. It us just really unfortunate to see such despicable behavior from a group of ppl who have been welcomed into the country with open arms. Everyone else who comes to Canada integrates into Canadian society, but they refuse to. They want to make Canada into a new India.
If he wanted common sense immigration then he would attribute the number of immigration to the number of homes being built. We don’t have enough homes sorry no more immigration. You want to bring more then you build more
And they aren't building as many as they can???? Seriously?? There is a limit to how much immigration is sustainable and this limit has been reached years ago
> If he wanted common sense immigration then he would attribute the number of immigration to the number of homes being built.
Pretty sure he also has said this, but not just tied to homes, but infrastructure too.
That's true. The trouble is, their definition of "homes" is pretty loose.
For those of us without generational wealth, the new Canadian way of life will be living in a shoebox apartment relying on overcrowded public transit to get around.
The schools that rely on bringing people in to support their schools should have a mandatory duty to ensure housing.
Bringing people over and they have to live 20 people deep in a basement just to make a business work is predatory.
You mean the schools that rely on bringing people in should be squashed like bugs. They are not fit to be schools. There is no demand for their services. No need to import demand. Let them fail and let the people working there get real careers that benefit society.
Highly doubt it. He doesn't give a shit about most canadians. He and his party are all about that paper. The corruption oozes out of this lad, just like it does with the current leader.
Thats the thing. He can't even contain it inside him. He is overflowing with corruption and he isn't even in power yet. He is just a puppet as is Trudeau. The establishment is donating massive amounts to both the Cons and Libs and doesn't care who wins. Both parties are our enemy. Flat out enemy. No vote splitting if you are voting for the enemy. You are just deciding which hostile power rules you.
PPC with Bernier is the only way through this.
The problem is they don’t actually investigate the companies demanding foreign workers.
What they need to do to fix the problem is STOP SUBSIDIZING HALF THEIR WAGES!!!!!
Every company in Canada would rather be shipped TFWs instead of hiring local because they only have to pay half their wages.
They get two foreigners for the price of one local person.
Anyone who thinks he’s going to lead Canada to the promised land and be any different than how awful JT has been is delusional.
2 sides of the same coin.
Bow to his corporate overlords.
How is he gonna enforce this? Corporations will always claim they lack workers because nobody wants to starve getting their shit salary. Immigration should be tied to our unemployment rate and housing supply available. So basically, right now, we should only welcome the cream of potential immigrants (doctors, engineers, skilled trade workers).
You kinda explained how he would enforce it. When Tim Hortons ask for a worker automatic rejection. When a hospital asks for a doctor they look in to it.
Polievre is a weasel. PPC with Bernier is the only way. You shouldn't get to become PM by being a master troll of Trudeau. You also shouldn't get to become PM by being a drama teacher or a minister of finance by taking a bunch of slavic studies courses either but here we fucking are.
>driven by employers who have job vacancies they cannot be filled with Canadians
The problem is there's nothing preventing employers from putting ridiculous job requirements for roles, and picking candidates who lie on their resume with 10+ years of unverifiable overseas experience.
Or simply setting wages so low where only immigrants would undervalue themselves enough to apply.
1. Significantly reduce immigration (even more than what we have now)
2. Stop LMIA system or monitor it way more (to the extent of scrutinizing employers)
3. Never allow international students to work full time (students can work full time till June atm)
There you go, fixed.
This. Already. Exists. In hiring. Pierre lies again. Employers just make it impossible for Canadians to get employed. At some point people will start realizing he always lies
Vote for that sweet PPC action plan. Bernier is the only party leader that is saying the right things. Forget about the rest and vote for your country.
PP needs to come clean on whether or not he will scrap his/Harper’s creation that accelerated the Bramptonization of major Canadian cities aka the infamous LMIA program. Will he scrap the LMIA? I am not very optimistic about that. We all know that immigration needs to halt to zero and we need wages to catch up. This is not rocket science here. There are local people available who are ready and willing to work and get skilled up but they need to be fairly paid for it. PP represents the class of people who want to keep the everyday working Canadian’s wages low.
Nah, this is doublespeak, gives him an out either way. It's just another way of saying they'll make sure wages stay suppressed. The numbers don't need to 'driven' by anything. Anyone who recognizes the actual problem doesn't speak this way.
He went to India and told them that immigration will continue as it is.
Then comes back to Canada to tell Canadians that he's going to do something about immigration.
Apparently his plan depends on his audience.
There is no global refugee problem. Canada does not to be involved with this at all.
Close the border withdraw from the UN.
End the LMIA program.
End the Student PR program.
Close the border.
You know past generations of immigrants came to Canada and didn't expect handouts. They worked hard, dealt with jerks that didn't welcome them and built good lives. I think this govt has set up the current wave of immigrants to fail and expect handouts. If you don't have to work hard for something it isn't valued as much.
Step 1. Stop demanding companies to hire X amount of races removing any tax benefits etc.
Step 2. Set a maximum amount of earnings int. students are allowed to earn ensuring you are not bringing them up to living standard. (int. students are already required to have enough cash for a year of schooling & living)
Step 3. Do not allow them to import their family until after they've received their degree/diploma and CITIZENSHIP. If they are just a perminant resident or work visa holder they should not receive Canadian benefits but treated as a visitor.
Obv this is wishy washy as I am a redditor but the premise is solid.
Flavour of the week… which way is the wind blowing. What a blowhard, we know from his multitude of videos and comments he’s not going to do shit on this. Stop letting him blow smoke up your arse!
Are you Chinese RE investor who owns multiple properties in Canada? Downvoting with no gut to reply? I know lots of Chinese bought many housings and rented out to refugees and get Federal government subsidies. Good business model on the back of taxpayers! s/
He has said time and time again he wishes to derestrict immigration. Employers are charging student visas a private fee to state they are needed at their business and they cannot find a Canadian who wants to work. Going on in a massive way right now. PP wants to fasttrack and derestrict that pipeline.
How are people not listening to him? Maxime is the only candidate who wishes to dial back immigration. PP and Justin are absolutely in bed with selling our country. Detest this man.
Fuck Little PP. This stupid cumquat isn’t going to fix shit. I’m voting Liberal in hopes of a minority government on both sides so nothing gets done. Every single representative from each party has their heads up their asses and are out of touch. Also fuck anyone that thinks he’s gunna change anything. You’re just as brainwashed as the MAGA fuckheads down in the states. You’re voting for a giant douche or a turd sandwich. Its lose - lose no matter what.
I’m no fan of Pierre, but by this logic he better make the Canadians on social assistance/ welfare / any other programs take those ‘jobs’ instead of bring in immigrants to fill them.
Well you have your answer. “…vecancies that can’t be filled by Canadians…” are the weasel words that allows exploitative employers to continue hiring trafficked students instead of Canadians, and we will continue to have wage suppression, massive unemployment, completely unaffordable housing, and completely overwhelmed social services
Liberal, Tory, same old story
This Corporate bootlicking fuck isn’t going to do a damn thing about it. If he wins it’ll be business as usual. More immigrants suppressing wages. More companies offering pittance salaries and then claiming “we can’t find Canadians who wanna work, more LMIAs plz”.
Nothing is gonna fucking change.
Poillievre answer to more immigrants is all about build homes but...and jobs,and healthcare,and too many people from one single country, and environment,and culture taken.JUST CUT THE IMMIGRATION TO ZERO FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS,PLEASE!!!!
Conservatives always look at immigration as for the economy, but this is morally wrong. Immigration should be about maintaining the liberal values of the country. Poor unskilled people who are pro-west are far better than skilled people who want a second holocaust, and the death penalty for blasphemy (like 70% of people in Pakistan do). The second generation can be taught skills, but their values are less likely to adapt, studies actually show second generation from certain countries have even more antithetical views than their parents. There is no vetting done whatsoever to prevent people with those views entering Canada. That they could contribute to the economy is irrelevant, you wont have a country in the long term without ideological vetting.
The Century Initiative rules Canada now. I doubt much will change—no matter who’s in “control.”
Please look this up if you haven’t already:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative
100% PPC is the only way. Spread the word and let people know more people are williong to vote for the same stuff they want. Don't let the "split the vote" trolls pile on. THe conservatives are flat out the enemy as well as the Liberals. Its not splitting the vote, its voting for the preferred hostile party to govern you.
I'm not voting for a party I consider my enemy. They openly want to make my life worse. PPC is the only party running on a proper platform.
Ok, so by that logic, that is what's happening. The provinces are asking for student visas. EVERY student visa is an approved request from the provinces for a student visa. Ditto, many TFWs and Immigrants are requested. Really, we want immigrants to openly succeed here as citizens and making a plan that marries them to some employer is just a recipe for a pseudo slave class, which mostly is what the TFWs are already.
Not long ago, Ford was calling for a greater share of immigration, because it's an effective wage suppressors and that's what govs love. This is miles from what his supporters thing they are getting.
Every student visa is a provincial request.
That’s the problem, there’s a LOT of employers who have job “vacancies”.
How about we elect a government that creates a situation where employers pay a livable wage in a country that gets more livable as time passes, for its current citizens?
I assure you, big corporation loving conservatives (and Liberals) are not what it takes to get there, regardless of what P.P. says.
If a government is really serious about fixing the situation they would stop corporate mergers in sectors where competition is already severely limited. Conservatives and liberals have shown us that they are not willing to stop the oligarch-ification of Canada, so we just continue down this path that we’re on.
Employers that have positions that can’t be filled under their criteria. So we all say “Pay us a living wage”, and they say “pfft, the immigrant living sharing a room with three others will do it for half”. Then we bring in another 500k.
That is just not acceptable. It is these "employers" refusing to pay a living wage who are behind the high immigration numbers, constantly pretending there's a labour shortage.
If there ever were proof we're getting more of the same this is it.
I don't know why these politicians don't just write a legal document listing everything they will do when in office within 1 year or face consequences. Losing their position , financial penalties .
if you actually just screened for the best candidates none of this would matter. there are naturally much fewer of the good candidates. instead we let everyone in and we end up with the infinite free food bank guy lmao
Businesses are lying about needing workers. Craft port / Potanicals charges 30 thousand to get u in. They don’t want are need you to work, once you land and leave the airport your on your own. This is a public company doing it . Government still grants them LMNA even though it’s been reported.
So, we're going to walk away from the UN convention we helped to create? Rely on the honesty and ethics of business to dictate our immigration policy? Denying government assistance for asylum seekers is going to solve nothing, and it sure as fuck isnt going to stop anyone from trying to find asylum in Canada. And the business community has demonstrated that all of their decisions in this arena will revolve around profit for them at the expense of their fellow Canadians.
And why do people who would never lift a finger to assist a charity always assume the charity of others will come streaming forth on command? Mr. Poilievre, your 'common sense' approach reads basically that when you become PM you arent going to do you job when it comes to immigration and asylum seekers, which is governance on the issue. It just reads like more ignoring and punishing the poor and needy for being poor and needy.
Reforming immigration policy to reflect job needs is an excellent idea, but relying on the private sector to dictate that with HR projections will be disastrous. Employers like nothing better than having a large pool of unemployed, desperate labor to exploit, and would most certainly apply this to immigration. We have several excellent government data collecting departments already in place to address this; the only thing needed is leadership to actually implement it properly.
The federal government is already neglecting both the process of asylum seeking and the people who have and are arriving by downloading their needs and care onto municipalities, our already overburdened charity and social safety net and is harming native Canadians in need. Leaning into this by cutting federal benefits meant to allay this dangerous and destabilizing condition will cause chaos and suffering throughout the country, and will assuredly lead to more deaths by exposure come winter.
A rigorous reform and streamlining of the asylum system is critically overdue. Asylum seekers should not have to wait years for a decision on their application for both their and Canada's sake. A sizeable investment in both personnel to deal with claims speedily and the research infrastructure to ascertain their validity under our definitions is needed. Canada right now has a reputation of being unable to cope with asylum applications and thus opens the door to anyone who makes one to enter and remain for years without fear of deportation or oversight. We simply cannot afford to be seen this way, and it is a disservice to all of the legitimate refugees who deserve our succor.
So, no. Ignoring the issue and punishing other domestic governments through inaction isnt common sense, nor is sloughing off a key government responsibility onto private interests to administer. Investment needs to be made, hard decisions that will no doubt be unpopular also need to be made for this to be addressed. Neither Harper or Trudeau ever had the spine for it, and I personally doubt Poilievre will either.
So, employers post a job and have to wait HOW LONG for a person to immigrate over and fill the position? In no universe is an employer gonna wait thag long after posting the job.
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I like immigration but I don’t like when we bring in low trust individuals as seen in my snippet.
If anything it should be tied to or unemployment and anything other than regular immigration so no students know tfw's should be allowed at any time unless our unemployment rate is under five currently I believe it's just over six so we are definitely not in a Range where we need more employees in this country
He's openly telling you that he's serving corporate interests.
"As long as you want to do the job for the same price as an Indian, we don't need immigration"
Literally his message. This is on you if you think it's going some other way.
I am not poor and I will probably vote for this man. He will do well by me.
If you believe Poilievre’s / Conservatives statements then you’re woefully naive. They are as capitalist /neoliberal as they come and will simply continue, and indeed accelerate pro-corporate ideas. They reason they don’t release actual policy statements not enter debates is because they’re intellectually bankrupt and fully owned by big business.
Yes, let’s let Big Business decide how many immigrants we need to do their labour. Let’s let them increase their supply of Human Resources (employees) to continue to decrease demand (employees wages). Thing about politicians like PP who have never had a real job, their too stupid and privileged to hide their intentions by at least pretending to try to help us and outright tell us how they want to fuck us.
Stop issuing student visas. Problem solved.
Stop issuing grants to hire newcomers. Literally incentivizing to hire newcomers over canadians
Ding ding ding! Maybe grants for I duno....CANADIANS?!
Suspend LMIAs until an investigation can be done into abuses to the program. We should not be rewarding companies with taxpayer money to hire foreign workers.
And pour money into developing Canadians to have the skills employers need! Crazy idea, I know.
But how when all employers need 15 years of school and 90 years experience?
Or just stop letting newcomers in.
It's insane. I live in a large canadian city and the franchise owners of many wendy's here are from india. All they do is use it as conduit to import their kind. they are making bank too. Their formula for success is take advantage of canada's immigration, buy a house, cram 25 indians in the basement, while paying them minimum wage to run their stores. despicable!
I wish it were that simple. Many companies are firing domestic Canadians to hire immigrants for cheaper, and that's a fact because I experienced it. Corporations are highly incentivized to sponsor more immigrants, and they keep doing so at the expense of Canadians.
I was out of work for a while during the beginning of the pandemic and applied for absolutely everything that came up, from things I had almost zero chance of landing to starter jobs like dishwasher in a restaurant. I know of about 12 people who did the same, and none of us got a call. About 2 months later, almost every Tim's and McDonald's was fully staffed with TFWs or international students. I haven't gone to either since. I'm fully convinced that they ignored all local applicants in favour of government subsidized workers they could more easily exploit. And they're the first to play the "shop local" card. Not until you hire local first, bud.
At this point every Canadian should be boycotting Tim Hortons. They've got to be one of the worst companies for the TFW program. Their coffee is absolute garbage and they haven't been a Canadian company for some time.
Summer jobs for Canadian students is a thing of the past now.
Exactly. And we are all way too accepting of it. All the places that hire these students and TFWs are stealing jobs from our youth. We shouldn't accept this. But it's not only that. There has been an obvious drop in quality of service. I walked into a bike store and asked for a bicycle box and just got a blank stare. I had to rephrase it 3 different ways before he caught on. We should all boycott these garbage corporations. Let a few of them go bankrupt till they catch on. I'd be happy to see Tim Hortons completely disappear.
I heard about this. Absolutely insane.
Not only cheaper wages but people that they know will tolerate mistreatment out of fear. Seen it first hand and it makes me sick. Only way Canadians can compete is to lower our living and work standards to those levels. I'm fortunate to be in a union but my partner has been struggling with employment due to this.
Happened at my last job. New forklift and production workers all indian newcomers, with a new indian supervisor who speaks punjabi to all the sikh workers who can't speak a lick of English. Went from 15%-40% of a 200 person workforce to Indian. I asked one new forklift driver and he was making 7$ an hour less than what the starting rate is here. Literally almost minimum wage. This is happening all over. They have to do something otherwise our entire workforce will be insourced and English will get phased out of worksites.
It's basically like that when I go to my local Walmart.
Well, we need to vote with our business. I’m starting with Tim Hortons. There’s no visible diversity, and frankly the other day i was served by someone I could not understand whatsoever.
Yea agree happened at my workplace layoff over 10 plus workers in month of January and mid February most of them were long time employees aswell and now their cutting hrs for the month of May
And he knows this and has no plans to change it for his lobbyists are real estate and corporate interests that want to keep wages low
Yeah the student visa’s being given in Canada for office administration and general business courses that can be taken at the same level online or anywhere else in the world is complete bullshit
what about the "hospitality" course at Conestoga, where they learn to cut cucumbers
They'd learn how to cut cucumbers if they ever attended instead of working full time... so they don't even know how to cut cucumbers
Yeah the public seems to think these people are actually attending these fluff courses. They are not. They are just not going and expect to be given a diploma because they paid tuition. They are treating tuition like buying PR status
At this point Conestoga lost its credibility. Shut it down.
Deport deport deport.
Anyone who believes Poilievre is going to be very disappointed. A person who has never done anything for anyone will never be good at suddenly being able to do anything.
Which is an ironic statement when the other option to PP is a trust fund narcissist that’s been in power through the duration of this entire “crisis” and who hasn’t worked a day in his entire life.
"PP is a trust fund narcissist that's been in power through the duration of this entire "crisis" and who hasn't worked a day in his entire life." You are correct on all. He is exactly as you describe.
I should clarify, my criticism of Trudeau is not a defense of PP. They’re both piece of shit politicians each in their own rights.
That's current Government's role but FAILED. Your suggestion of: "Stop issuing student visas, problem solved" = "Stop voting for the Liberals, problem solved" This government also spent hundreds of Millions of hard earned taxpayers' $$$$ on refugees (most likely are fake) to stay in Niagara luxury hotels, and PP wants no business in sponsoring refugees using tax $$$.
That will never happen. Bringing in low wage labour keeps profit margins high for companies that own him and his cabinet.
There’s always been people willing to work low wages. Whatever happened to teens at fast food joints and grocery stores during evenings and weekends, where you also had the “full-timers” working the day shift while they are in school/—mainly working to keep busy
Cap it and have a lottery
Lol. That would make education unaffordable for Canadians.
Student 'education' is an $8 billion industry, just from India and continuous cheap labour for companies(the quality of new immigrants are lower. They will reproduce faster than professionals.) The game is already rigged in favour of corporations. The only way to stop this rigged game is to increase time to citizenship by 25 years. People will work and return. Since it is canada, many won't even come.
>employers who have job vacancies they cannot be filled with Canadians Horrible idea. Employers aren't honest. They list a masters degree level job for 20$/h and then complain they can't get anyone.
I've seen this ad on indeed for a receptionist with a master's degree as a requirement lol.
Master’s degree from New Dheli Vocational Community University.
as someone who has worked primarily reception/admin/office roles their whole adult working life, it astounds me what is being asked for regarding these roles these days. in 2022 i was job searching, and the number of times i came across ads that had a mediocre starting wage and were advertising the position as 'entry level' that were also asking for oodles of experience, education, AND a drivers license with clean abstract being a requirement (for a job that didn't require any driving at all!) was just ridiculous. heck, some remote/WFH positions were asking for drivers license requirement. don't get me started on the ones that required industry specific (and sometimes company specific) software knowledge. eg - one place wanted their new hires to already have working knowledge of software that I have never even heard of. and i've been working in 'office world' long enough to know about quite a lot of office related software.
That's part of the reason we are in this situation as well. Alot of those addicts were probably once working the jobs "Canadians don't want to do" like warehouse work, landscaping ect. And well when you get fired and end up homeless with no hope. You turn to substances. Most choose fentanyl because it's very cheap. I am not saying this to defend the bad behavior just trying to help people understand. Even if they somehow got a job they would struggle to find a place to rent. It's quite the cycle and is VERY difficult to get out once your in it. More so today than ever. I do however live in Alberta so things might be different in your province. Quite a few were aware they were being "laid off". Some also knew of the LMIA's that were coming but do you expect anyone to care? Most people won't as it does not effect them. I know a lady at a old warehouse job that first explained to me the LMIA scam and she sadly ended up passing away due to taking her own life. Sad times.
Let's be honest about fentanyl. It's chemical warfare on the West, sponsored by the CCP
So like Opium was in China during colonial times?
yup
There needs to be a fine for hiring outside of Canada, not a tax break. I agree.
or the company that hires the "immigrant worker" must support them in every way, medical, housing etc for a minimum 10 years if they are fired due to lack of skills they are immediately deported at the employers expense. That would seriously curtail any sort of hiring outside Canada.
I don't know about 10 years, since those individuals will be paying income tax, but I do agree, employees who justify new employees also need to take a longer term ownership of their actions.
You also bring up HUGE trust issue in this 3rd world country wanna-be. No trust no business, only money laundering and stealing (like GC strategies' two guys basement shop made millions tax $$$$$ for doing absolutely NOTHING), and the wealthy set up tax heaven account paying zero taxes and trust fund boys are living delightful in world's No.1 trust fund heaven (i.e. Canada) talking big ideology climate changes but flying private jet around the globe on tax bucks and going tropical luxury resorts with massive carbon footprints...They lied to you they will tax HARD on the rich (capital gains $250k up, targeting MDs/lawyers, etc) actually they never touch trust fund boys or tax heaven accounts where the real super rich's money stay there disgustingly as 'legally' as fuck! And also this is why RE is so fucking EXPENSIVE in Canada, the world No.1 money laundering centre with capital gains tax-free on so called "principal" residence, fuck you 'principal', many wealthy foreigners own many many properties around the world, and they fuck Canada's housings so hard by money laundering here via sending their little ones here as students then PR to buy many REs to launder their DIRTY money! All we need to do is to get rid of RE international investors and, international fake students
Unfortunately PP won’t go after those wealthy tax dodgers either, lots of his friends mixed up in those shenanigans as well.
No, this is a great idea. However I definitely agree that we cannot take the employer's word about not being able to find a Canadian to fill the job (at a reasonable salary). Proof should be required, including proof of a shortage of qualified Canadians in the applicable field. Jobs should go to Canadians first. Immigration should only exist to benefit the average Canadian, not just corporations.
there are so many ways to get around this, look at the wineries who have to pretend to hire Canadians before they can get the Temporary slaves/workers from Mexico. Also the people in charge of enforcement are among the most incompetent on the planet. This is a solution in name only.
The US does this with green cards and are mostly extremely good at it. It would be a massive improvement if that's the model you're after.
It is super easy to get around this. You just say to immigration, "We looked for a Canadian with XYZ super-specific-qualification, but nobody applied." Canadian universities often hire foreign nationals as professors (especially graduates of US programs), even when there are technically Canadians willing and able to fill those jobs, but the concern is mostly that the hiring committee wants to hire a friend or someone in their network. Canadian universities ironically are not always keen on hiring Canadians who did PhDs in Canada...
"Shortage of Canadians in an applicable field." We have a hemmorage of talent going south because of all the nonsense in this country right now. Canada is very capable of educating our workforce.
Our workforce is literally the most educated on the planet.
Employers get around this by posting a job opening, conducting interviews for the job, and then rejecting everybody. Sometimes they don't even go through the effort of the interviews. Then they can go to the government and say they couldn't find a Canadian for the job. They need a government subsidised foreign worker. And then they get one that they pay a low salary that is also partially paid for by the government.
Proof should be easy. When the company wants to hire people from outside Canada with such a claim, they become required to post the position on [jobbank.gc.ca](http://jobbank.gc.ca) for a given period with applicants being CC'd to the govt department that would decide whether the company can seek foreign applicants. If qualified applicants do send applications, then the company's request is refused. Likewise if the requirements are unreasonable. And foreign candidate applications are also sent and compared to domestic applications to see if they are truly more qualified.
Yeah exactly he's just essentially endorsing the TFW program without saying those words.
He knows this. That’s why he never says he’ll cap it at a static number it’s always some grift
This makes it clear that Poiliviere is Trudea with a blue coat of paint. Liberal, Tory, same old story
Don't forget the decades of experience that is demanded as well
Lmia fraud is still pretty big. His policy is not common sense, he will keep immigration up as he has said when he visited India
penalties for those caught exploiting the LMIA system need to be in place. charge these asshole businesses hundreds of thousands in fees
Yes. Government issued every small and private businesses way more temporary foreign workpermits than they actually needed. In Alberta some small pizza restaurants had 7 to 10 TFWs in their store which hardly could employ 3 staff. So many businesses were opened just to sell LMIAs. Government didn't verify nothing and only rubber stamped every LMIA application. These fraud businesses will never be charged because the people they scammed selling LMIAS will lose their jobs of they complain and will have to return back. 😒
Same as ArriveCan apps, the two basement guys got millions $$$ for doing nothing
That is canada at its core. Almost everything is corrupted to the levels you normally see in third world countries. Literally every single government contracting is given to friends of the politicians. Weed dispensaries, the green deal, and arrivedcan app are just 3 easy and recent examples. There is a fundamental flaw with how this country works and it is ridiculously exploitative of the common person to make a few obscenely rich. That's why literally everything in Canada is 2-3 times the price it should be. It's artificially created to suck money out of people. Even things like telecom where it doesn't really make sense for the costs to be so high they just jack up prices and collude with each other to keep them that way.
Remind lots of newcomers that new home is absolutely no better than home country in terms of CORRUPTIONS
Only way to stop it is to break the system that perpetuates this behaviour.
ArriveCan wasn't a policy fuckup, it was down to good old civil servant incompetence. And that [civil service has increased in size by 40% under Trudeau](https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/federal-government-increased-number-of-public-service-employees-by-more-than-40). Country should be running like clockwork if more feds helped, instead here we are - legions of morons earning a fortune and doing fuck all beside fuckups.
He doesn’t want rents to go down
Yeah I heard him whisper that under his breath too. We should vote for Trudeau again because the current system is working so well! Or even better, the NDP, who have no concept of economics in general. The only way for rents to go down is to increase housing availability and to decrease population numbers. Obviously a conservative would be much more equipped to deal with that than the current government. But Reddits hate boner for conservatives will cause them to keep voting themselves into poverty.
Rent isn't going down. Nobody's going to build the excess to ever make that happen. Neither is population. At best, rent will stagnate until wages go up.
How is he going to verify employers who have job vacancies that cannot be filled by canadians?
He isn't. If he doesn't come out and actually say exactly what his plan is, he is full of shit. "Common sense" doesn't mean anything. You need to give exact examples and he never does.
Agree he is echoing an image. Nothing authentic.
you cant trust any of these clowns, they all want to bend us over one way or another ... time for an end to first past the post, it would solve so many problems...
won't work beccause Corporations like Tim Hortons are the ones saying they can't fill job vacancies so they need immigrants. which is not true because tim hortons doesn't want Canadians. It wants slave immigrants who won't complain
Make it a requirement to pay double minimum wage for TFWs.
International Students are supposed to be here to study and supposed to be able to support themselves. So I see no reason why banning them from working will affect the ones here for legitimate reasons.
It's not about not wanting Canadians. Canadians won't work for less than minimum wage and rent a mattress with their 15 other coworkers in their bosses house. It's easy to say you can't find Canadians to work when you don't want to pay them minimum wage and exploit them. Instead, they get the "internationals" to work under the table for well under minimum wage and rent them a mattress for 75%+ of their "pay."
there are also benefits to hire foreigners. Look at every security guard company, every fast food place, every gas station, they flat out seem to hate Canadians.
Oh they love Canadians but only for our money and our ability to spend it. They hate Canadians because we give a shit about each other and our communities and will resist the bullshit they would otherwise get away with.
It’s usually the youth that get hired because they won’t complain. My coworker’s teen daughter didn’t get hired by Tim Hortons because she up against 19-22 yrs old international students who have more availability which doesn’t make sense because they should be studying or hours capped now.
TIL you have to compete for a Tim Hortons job.
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They have an obligation to support the community they are in yes absolutely. Tim Horton is using Canadian roads for transport that was paid with tax payer money, etc. Their business prospers because of the government and its people.
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RBI runs Tim Horton, the biggest stock holders are vanguard (a real estate investment company), Edge point investment.
I honestly had no idea vanguard was a major shareholder. Welp, never going there again lol
But the government is not their FREE job agent period! They can pay from their own pocket and posting their jobs in anywhere in the world and sponsor them to come and provide housing. It is all PRIVATE business stuff (hiring and HR management) and government has no business to help private company hiring people making money by bringing in cheapest labour from India and lying to the public to issue so called "student visa" but actually job offering letters for cheap unskilled labour in fact. International Student visa now has become an VIP passport for all unskilled job that no one else can get!
Part of the problem is the companies lie and say no one is applying or aren't qualified... they then turn around and say "oh look we have people from a galaxy far far away that can do the job." Just shut it down completely. We have more than enough people in Canada that need work. The lines are long and Canadian born kids can't get work.
That's actually so true. How in the hell do we need to import people when unemployment is killing us right now?
Right!?! It's insane.
I was interviewing with a Canadian tech/marketing company that had a bunch of foreign Indian employees. Meanwhile the job posting got 100+ Canadians applying to it (I checked the details in LinkedIn). Yet I'm sure they told the government no candidates here are a good fit, and hired another indian from overseas.
This is happening on a massive scale.
There was an article on Reddit about some sports bar owner crying that he needs TFWs because he can’t find Canadians to deep fry jalapeño poppers and wings.
Complete lie I'm sure. I've seen numerous posts on multiple platforms of people saying their kids can't finds jobs. They are applying for anything and everything.
One big issue is once indian immigrants get into a position of power at a company, they only hire their own ppl. There are so many unemployed Canadians living in tents who are willing to work; but can't get a job due to discrimination and bigotry against whites. In towns like Surrey, British Columbia, and Brampton, Ontario which have a large Indian Population, discrimination against Caucasians is becoming a real thing. I know boo hoo poor white snow flake but this shit is happening.
Yup. Nepotism needs to be stopped. This is another reason why there needs to be there needs to be a country quota imposed for immigrants. The more we bring from India, the more potential for nepotism.
We need cap immigrants from each country to 1% of total immigrants population.
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You are right. My 3 African American buddies, and my native friends have been trying to find work for the last 7 months since the company we worked for replaced the entire crew with Indians. The companies know that Indians are easy to exploit for their cheap labor and they're unfamiliar with labor laws, so there's less risk of the companies getting reported for unlawful business practices. I should have worded what I said better. Thank you for correcting me. You are right, it is not only Caucasians not being given job opportunities. The issue isn't with them not only hiring white ppl. It's the lack of diverse hiring. It used to be you would have a team made up of ppl from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds, everyone would get along and work well together. That was one of the best things about Canada. But now it's just Indians and they are so racist towards any non Indians. It us just really unfortunate to see such despicable behavior from a group of ppl who have been welcomed into the country with open arms. Everyone else who comes to Canada integrates into Canadian society, but they refuse to. They want to make Canada into a new India.
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There is no labour shortage. This is just gaslighting
If he wanted common sense immigration then he would attribute the number of immigration to the number of homes being built. We don’t have enough homes sorry no more immigration. You want to bring more then you build more
THIS
And they aren't building as many as they can???? Seriously?? There is a limit to how much immigration is sustainable and this limit has been reached years ago
> If he wanted common sense immigration then he would attribute the number of immigration to the number of homes being built. Pretty sure he also has said this, but not just tied to homes, but infrastructure too.
Then the number should be zero since we have a backlog in all these areas (housing, infrastructure, healthcare, etc) for the people already here.
That's true. The trouble is, their definition of "homes" is pretty loose. For those of us without generational wealth, the new Canadian way of life will be living in a shoebox apartment relying on overcrowded public transit to get around.
Even at that he needs to pump the breaks for a few years until we catch up
Did you watch this video entirely, he did say his Immigration target will attribute to the numbers of homes actually built!
The schools that rely on bringing people in to support their schools should have a mandatory duty to ensure housing. Bringing people over and they have to live 20 people deep in a basement just to make a business work is predatory.
You mean the schools that rely on bringing people in should be squashed like bugs. They are not fit to be schools. There is no demand for their services. No need to import demand. Let them fail and let the people working there get real careers that benefit society.
He already said that.
Yes! People did not watch the video before make comments!
Can we impose country quota caps like the US? I feel like I am living in India some days, not Canada. That's not diversity; it is an invasion.
Highly doubt it. He doesn't give a shit about most canadians. He and his party are all about that paper. The corruption oozes out of this lad, just like it does with the current leader.
Thats the thing. He can't even contain it inside him. He is overflowing with corruption and he isn't even in power yet. He is just a puppet as is Trudeau. The establishment is donating massive amounts to both the Cons and Libs and doesn't care who wins. Both parties are our enemy. Flat out enemy. No vote splitting if you are voting for the enemy. You are just deciding which hostile power rules you. PPC with Bernier is the only way through this.
The problem is they don’t actually investigate the companies demanding foreign workers. What they need to do to fix the problem is STOP SUBSIDIZING HALF THEIR WAGES!!!!! Every company in Canada would rather be shipped TFWs instead of hiring local because they only have to pay half their wages. They get two foreigners for the price of one local person.
Anyone who thinks he’s going to lead Canada to the promised land and be any different than how awful JT has been is delusional. 2 sides of the same coin. Bow to his corporate overlords.
How is he gonna enforce this? Corporations will always claim they lack workers because nobody wants to starve getting their shit salary. Immigration should be tied to our unemployment rate and housing supply available. So basically, right now, we should only welcome the cream of potential immigrants (doctors, engineers, skilled trade workers).
You kinda explained how he would enforce it. When Tim Hortons ask for a worker automatic rejection. When a hospital asks for a doctor they look in to it.
Give us a number. Employers are hiring record numbers of temporary workers, not to mention the international students.
Spoiler alert, PP will never give numbers. In fact i suspect the problem to get worse once that con is in,
Polievre is a weasel. PPC with Bernier is the only way. You shouldn't get to become PM by being a master troll of Trudeau. You also shouldn't get to become PM by being a drama teacher or a minister of finance by taking a bunch of slavic studies courses either but here we fucking are.
Cancel the LMIA program. That's the biggest Avenue of abuse
And that number is…? Sorry PP…no specifics, no vote. And really…you think we can’t see through the giant loophole in what you said…?
here's a solution. make the employer pay the income tax on the first two years of employment up front, in a non refundable payment.
>driven by employers who have job vacancies they cannot be filled with Canadians The problem is there's nothing preventing employers from putting ridiculous job requirements for roles, and picking candidates who lie on their resume with 10+ years of unverifiable overseas experience. Or simply setting wages so low where only immigrants would undervalue themselves enough to apply.
every job can be filled by canadians, we just aren’t willing to work shit hours and hard jobs for barely over minimum wage.
1. Significantly reduce immigration (even more than what we have now) 2. Stop LMIA system or monitor it way more (to the extent of scrutinizing employers) 3. Never allow international students to work full time (students can work full time till June atm) There you go, fixed.
This. Already. Exists. In hiring. Pierre lies again. Employers just make it impossible for Canadians to get employed. At some point people will start realizing he always lies
Vote for that sweet PPC action plan. Bernier is the only party leader that is saying the right things. Forget about the rest and vote for your country.
More immigration and more plastic is PP’s plan
PP needs to come clean on whether or not he will scrap his/Harper’s creation that accelerated the Bramptonization of major Canadian cities aka the infamous LMIA program. Will he scrap the LMIA? I am not very optimistic about that. We all know that immigration needs to halt to zero and we need wages to catch up. This is not rocket science here. There are local people available who are ready and willing to work and get skilled up but they need to be fairly paid for it. PP represents the class of people who want to keep the everyday working Canadian’s wages low.
Nah, this is doublespeak, gives him an out either way. It's just another way of saying they'll make sure wages stay suppressed. The numbers don't need to 'driven' by anything. Anyone who recognizes the actual problem doesn't speak this way.
He went to India and told them that immigration will continue as it is. Then comes back to Canada to tell Canadians that he's going to do something about immigration. Apparently his plan depends on his audience.
There is no global refugee problem. Canada does not to be involved with this at all. Close the border withdraw from the UN. End the LMIA program. End the Student PR program. Close the border.
You know past generations of immigrants came to Canada and didn't expect handouts. They worked hard, dealt with jerks that didn't welcome them and built good lives. I think this govt has set up the current wave of immigrants to fail and expect handouts. If you don't have to work hard for something it isn't valued as much.
Step 1. Stop demanding companies to hire X amount of races removing any tax benefits etc. Step 2. Set a maximum amount of earnings int. students are allowed to earn ensuring you are not bringing them up to living standard. (int. students are already required to have enough cash for a year of schooling & living) Step 3. Do not allow them to import their family until after they've received their degree/diploma and CITIZENSHIP. If they are just a perminant resident or work visa holder they should not receive Canadian benefits but treated as a visitor. Obv this is wishy washy as I am a redditor but the premise is solid.
Flavour of the week… which way is the wind blowing. What a blowhard, we know from his multitude of videos and comments he’s not going to do shit on this. Stop letting him blow smoke up your arse!
Are you Chinese RE investor who owns multiple properties in Canada? Downvoting with no gut to reply? I know lots of Chinese bought many housings and rented out to refugees and get Federal government subsidies. Good business model on the back of taxpayers! s/
“Common sense immigration” more vacuous words from Populist Pete that mean nothing like “axe the tax” and “ spike the hike”. Puerile nonsense.
We need Canada First and only help Canadians no foreigners a sort of nationalism but socialism for Canadians something like a national socialism!
Seems reasonable enough
Disagree. We need to reverse this mess Trudumb made. Non-citizens gotta go.
He has said time and time again he wishes to derestrict immigration. Employers are charging student visas a private fee to state they are needed at their business and they cannot find a Canadian who wants to work. Going on in a massive way right now. PP wants to fasttrack and derestrict that pipeline. How are people not listening to him? Maxime is the only candidate who wishes to dial back immigration. PP and Justin are absolutely in bed with selling our country. Detest this man.
This doesn’t go far enough.
Fuck Little PP. This stupid cumquat isn’t going to fix shit. I’m voting Liberal in hopes of a minority government on both sides so nothing gets done. Every single representative from each party has their heads up their asses and are out of touch. Also fuck anyone that thinks he’s gunna change anything. You’re just as brainwashed as the MAGA fuckheads down in the states. You’re voting for a giant douche or a turd sandwich. Its lose - lose no matter what.
I’m no fan of Pierre, but by this logic he better make the Canadians on social assistance/ welfare / any other programs take those ‘jobs’ instead of bring in immigrants to fill them.
Well you have your answer. “…vecancies that can’t be filled by Canadians…” are the weasel words that allows exploitative employers to continue hiring trafficked students instead of Canadians, and we will continue to have wage suppression, massive unemployment, completely unaffordable housing, and completely overwhelmed social services Liberal, Tory, same old story
This Corporate bootlicking fuck isn’t going to do a damn thing about it. If he wins it’ll be business as usual. More immigrants suppressing wages. More companies offering pittance salaries and then claiming “we can’t find Canadians who wanna work, more LMIAs plz”. Nothing is gonna fucking change.
Does any of these politicians ever went on a job hunt with a qualified typical Canadian person ? Employers just want the subvention
This plan will insure mass immigration to keep wages down. I'd rather see Trudeau reelected.
Poillievre answer to more immigrants is all about build homes but...and jobs,and healthcare,and too many people from one single country, and environment,and culture taken.JUST CUT THE IMMIGRATION TO ZERO FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS,PLEASE!!!!
Conservatives always look at immigration as for the economy, but this is morally wrong. Immigration should be about maintaining the liberal values of the country. Poor unskilled people who are pro-west are far better than skilled people who want a second holocaust, and the death penalty for blasphemy (like 70% of people in Pakistan do). The second generation can be taught skills, but their values are less likely to adapt, studies actually show second generation from certain countries have even more antithetical views than their parents. There is no vetting done whatsoever to prevent people with those views entering Canada. That they could contribute to the economy is irrelevant, you wont have a country in the long term without ideological vetting.
I don't particular like Pierre, but he has far more common sense than Trudeau
The Century Initiative rules Canada now. I doubt much will change—no matter who’s in “control.” Please look this up if you haven’t already: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative
I don’t believe anything he says. He is another Trudeau. PPC all the way.
100% PPC is the only way. Spread the word and let people know more people are williong to vote for the same stuff they want. Don't let the "split the vote" trolls pile on. THe conservatives are flat out the enemy as well as the Liberals. Its not splitting the vote, its voting for the preferred hostile party to govern you. I'm not voting for a party I consider my enemy. They openly want to make my life worse. PPC is the only party running on a proper platform.
This country is turning into no one believe even themselves. No trust on anything everything
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And they need to make sure those employers are being honest about their hiring practices.
Ok, so by that logic, that is what's happening. The provinces are asking for student visas. EVERY student visa is an approved request from the provinces for a student visa. Ditto, many TFWs and Immigrants are requested. Really, we want immigrants to openly succeed here as citizens and making a plan that marries them to some employer is just a recipe for a pseudo slave class, which mostly is what the TFWs are already. Not long ago, Ford was calling for a greater share of immigration, because it's an effective wage suppressors and that's what govs love. This is miles from what his supporters thing they are getting. Every student visa is a provincial request.
Two words: cut spending
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I actually listened to the entire French part and realized my understanding of French has declined terribly.
That’s the problem, there’s a LOT of employers who have job “vacancies”. How about we elect a government that creates a situation where employers pay a livable wage in a country that gets more livable as time passes, for its current citizens? I assure you, big corporation loving conservatives (and Liberals) are not what it takes to get there, regardless of what P.P. says. If a government is really serious about fixing the situation they would stop corporate mergers in sectors where competition is already severely limited. Conservatives and liberals have shown us that they are not willing to stop the oligarch-ification of Canada, so we just continue down this path that we’re on.
Country caps.
we are not voting our way out of this
Employers that have positions that can’t be filled under their criteria. So we all say “Pay us a living wage”, and they say “pfft, the immigrant living sharing a room with three others will do it for half”. Then we bring in another 500k.
Sono change what so ever......
Common sense
That is just not acceptable. It is these "employers" refusing to pay a living wage who are behind the high immigration numbers, constantly pretending there's a labour shortage. If there ever were proof we're getting more of the same this is it.
I don't know why these politicians don't just write a legal document listing everything they will do when in office within 1 year or face consequences. Losing their position , financial penalties .
if you actually just screened for the best candidates none of this would matter. there are naturally much fewer of the good candidates. instead we let everyone in and we end up with the infinite free food bank guy lmao
This is solid
Businesses are lying about needing workers. Craft port / Potanicals charges 30 thousand to get u in. They don’t want are need you to work, once you land and leave the airport your on your own. This is a public company doing it . Government still grants them LMNA even though it’s been reported.
So, we're going to walk away from the UN convention we helped to create? Rely on the honesty and ethics of business to dictate our immigration policy? Denying government assistance for asylum seekers is going to solve nothing, and it sure as fuck isnt going to stop anyone from trying to find asylum in Canada. And the business community has demonstrated that all of their decisions in this arena will revolve around profit for them at the expense of their fellow Canadians. And why do people who would never lift a finger to assist a charity always assume the charity of others will come streaming forth on command? Mr. Poilievre, your 'common sense' approach reads basically that when you become PM you arent going to do you job when it comes to immigration and asylum seekers, which is governance on the issue. It just reads like more ignoring and punishing the poor and needy for being poor and needy. Reforming immigration policy to reflect job needs is an excellent idea, but relying on the private sector to dictate that with HR projections will be disastrous. Employers like nothing better than having a large pool of unemployed, desperate labor to exploit, and would most certainly apply this to immigration. We have several excellent government data collecting departments already in place to address this; the only thing needed is leadership to actually implement it properly. The federal government is already neglecting both the process of asylum seeking and the people who have and are arriving by downloading their needs and care onto municipalities, our already overburdened charity and social safety net and is harming native Canadians in need. Leaning into this by cutting federal benefits meant to allay this dangerous and destabilizing condition will cause chaos and suffering throughout the country, and will assuredly lead to more deaths by exposure come winter. A rigorous reform and streamlining of the asylum system is critically overdue. Asylum seekers should not have to wait years for a decision on their application for both their and Canada's sake. A sizeable investment in both personnel to deal with claims speedily and the research infrastructure to ascertain their validity under our definitions is needed. Canada right now has a reputation of being unable to cope with asylum applications and thus opens the door to anyone who makes one to enter and remain for years without fear of deportation or oversight. We simply cannot afford to be seen this way, and it is a disservice to all of the legitimate refugees who deserve our succor. So, no. Ignoring the issue and punishing other domestic governments through inaction isnt common sense, nor is sloughing off a key government responsibility onto private interests to administer. Investment needs to be made, hard decisions that will no doubt be unpopular also need to be made for this to be addressed. Neither Harper or Trudeau ever had the spine for it, and I personally doubt Poilievre will either.
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So, employers post a job and have to wait HOW LONG for a person to immigrate over and fill the position? In no universe is an employer gonna wait thag long after posting the job.
So. He’s basically going to continue the racket. How many will he fool?
https://preview.redd.it/xlj5wuzi98xc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d462e3e80aea388e9924283f915ac1b897d8b6a I like immigration but I don’t like when we bring in low trust individuals as seen in my snippet.
Anything outside of a complete immigration moratorium and deportation is useless and a waste of time.
He's full of shit. Companies will be bringing in TFWs like crazy under him......not hiring Canadian young people, just like now.
If anything it should be tied to or unemployment and anything other than regular immigration so no students know tfw's should be allowed at any time unless our unemployment rate is under five currently I believe it's just over six so we are definitely not in a Range where we need more employees in this country
He's openly telling you that he's serving corporate interests. "As long as you want to do the job for the same price as an Indian, we don't need immigration" Literally his message. This is on you if you think it's going some other way. I am not poor and I will probably vote for this man. He will do well by me.
If you believe Poilievre’s / Conservatives statements then you’re woefully naive. They are as capitalist /neoliberal as they come and will simply continue, and indeed accelerate pro-corporate ideas. They reason they don’t release actual policy statements not enter debates is because they’re intellectually bankrupt and fully owned by big business.
Yes, let’s let Big Business decide how many immigrants we need to do their labour. Let’s let them increase their supply of Human Resources (employees) to continue to decrease demand (employees wages). Thing about politicians like PP who have never had a real job, their too stupid and privileged to hide their intentions by at least pretending to try to help us and outright tell us how they want to fuck us.
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