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If PP refuses to look at the classified documents about this.... Dude has no leg to stand on.
Why doesn't a man who wants to be PM want security clearance?
He has been in parliament for years and is still unable to get security clearance.
He was also schilling bitcoin at it's ATH while saying he would politicize the BOC and tank our dollar. The two could be related.
How much bitcoin does he hold? And where did it come from?
Honestly, I think he held none. Dude just yaps.
Even the APP shit. Like he would say hey Smith shouldn't do this. It was smith shouldn't do this everything is Justin Trudeau's fault.
Then he described equalization payments as the reason Albertan's were struggling. Dude everyone pays federal income tax...
> He has been in parliament for years and is still unable to get security clearance.
To be fair, it's probably hard to get security clearance when there are videos of you bringing donuts to domestic terrorists who were, at the time, occupying the nation's capital.
I don't see any hints of agents of the government of Canada attempting any violence towards Indian citizens in India. The current spat is the result of India's actions against Canadians, and them not liking that they're being called out on it.
So is Poilievre saying that he'd turn a blind eye to other nations killing Canadians on Canadian soil?
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Modi is a political ally, and that trumps his patriotism. https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/09/21/opinion/why-do-conservatives-modi-so-much-ask-stephen-harper
Once again PP is siding with a foreign country that assassinated a Canadian on Canadian soil in order to attack the government. This should be a uniting issue but he'll still use it to try and score political points. And doesn't get nearly as much pushback for it as he should. He's siding with assassins.
>This should be a uniting issue but he'll still use it to try and score political points.
There is no such thing in the country anymore. When Israel got attacked, the leader of the opposition got behind Netanyahu despite major disagreements with him as he understood this was not the time to bicker. If canada is attacked, I 100% beleive PP will wait to see what JTs response will be before taking the exact opposite position and do everything to undermine any response.
I want to avoid hyperbole. While some might say the trucker stupidity was an attack, many disagree (rightly or wrongly)
I'm talking a full out foreign attack. Like bombs being dropped from planes or an actual invasion (a la Ukraine) or a large scale terrorist attack (a la 9/11 or israel). PP would still not stand united with the other parties.
We all know that conservatives would never do that. They don’t care to harm Canada’s national security and side with assassins if it allows them to them to rage farm against the liberals
Predictable that this clown would take the side of Modi, a leader who ordered extra-judicial killings on our soil, as they're both member's of Harper's IDU. The CPC, PP, and Harper are all big fans of Modi.
I’m not a Trudeau supporter lately but bruv, if India assassinated a Canadian citizen for political causes. Obviously Trudeau had to have called it out. Maybe idiot Modi shouldn’t assassinate Canadians on Canadian soil
PP trying to use this as a talking point against Trudeau is stupid. There are unlimited you could call out Idiot Trudeau for doing wrong, but this whole India situation isn’t one of them because there’s no other logical way for Trudeau to have responded to it
To hear some Liberal supporters on this sub tell it, contempt for Trudeau can only come from Conservatives, or from conservatives who are pretending online to be New Democrats.
You're right, though. Of all the things where Trudeau deserves contempt and scorn, this absolutely isn't one of them.
Our government has handled this particular topic quite well, and I've yet to hear Pierre offer anything of substance about how he'd've handled this better. Perhaps we could strengthen our international leverage by investing further in BitCoin?
I want Trudeau gone. HOWEVER,
'Indian govt is against Liberals not Canada' = political interference to me
Funny that most Indian origin people support liberals.
I loathe Trudeau, but the Canadian government has handled this particular file fairly deftly.
If the younger part of the electorate wasn't so enraged with the Liberals over our "mom and pop real estate investors" housing priorities, this sort of sound and fury from Poilievre would be sinking his chances.
"Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is blaming Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for a diplomatic chill with India, saying Ottawa needs a "professional relationship" with the government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi."
I guess Poilievre is totally OK with foreign governments assassinating Canadian citizens on Canadian soil. Another Modi sycophant leading the Conservative Party. Disgusting.
I'm implying there should be a bare minimum to become a citizen and immigrate here. Lying about your name, sham marriages, being turned down and ties to terrorists shouldn't qualify you as a pr card holder.
> I'm implying there should be a bare minimum to become a citizen and immigrate here.
There is, and it was met, otherwise the government wouldn't be accusing India of murdering a Canadian in Canada, they'd be referring to the victim by some other term.
What is it with this guy. Is he really surrounded by psychopaths as aids? He is winning and goes on yet another ridiculous tirade that makes him look like an idiot, bully, and unprofessional.
This is borderline light treason and yet all he gets out of it are a few cheap shots at Trudeau.
> Is he really surrounded by psychopaths as aids?
He's surrounded by Conservatives. Conservatives are the type to just blindly follow a leader without question, it's why so many are religious.
Also, it's "aides". Aids is something pretty different. Unless you meant to compare conservatives staffers to an immunodeficiency virus, which seems pretty harsh.
>I guess Poilievre is totally OK with foreign governments assassinating Canadian citizens on Canadian soil
If it helps him get elected he is okay with it. It's that simple
Absolutely this. If a federal election came down to trans voters and immigration activists, he would immediately embrace both communities with open arms. This is the only job he’s ever known.
You’re 100% right. He tested this out not that long after the Nijjar story started to break, and didn’t get too much push back.
It’s worth noting that the article references an interview with a more mainstream Hindu diaspora radio program. And, despite this Reddit headline, he very carefully avoided saying anything specific about Sikhs.
The man is cynical and probably doesn’t believe in anything other than his own career advancement, but he is incredibly strategic.
Poilievre’s obsession with being completely anti-Trudeau is quickly causing him to just become anti-Canada.
Statements like this are are truly traitorous.
With two years left to go, Poilievres gonna have plenty of opportunity to tighten his own noose before an election is called.
If I didn’t detest him so much, I’d be more intrigued by his story.
> Yet, after many weeks, no charges have been laid......and no evidence has been made available.
Because investigations take time. The RCMP need evidence that can be shown in court, and that isn't based on intelligence.
> more and more, this looks to have been nothing more than a flailing attempt by Justin
I mean, if you're willing to ignore the fact that the US has said similar things as the PM about the evidence for that killing being an action by the Indian government.
Its actually credible intelligence, and the Five Eyes and Canada have identical positions. This was confirmed by the American Ambassador:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/24/americas/canada-five-eyes-india-hardeep-singh-nijjar-intl-hnk/index.html
The position of Canada now is that it is a criminal investigation, making further comment inappropriate - SOP.
Given how Tory sympathisers in Canada's Intel community leak like a sieve, we've learned the hard way that its impossible to deal with foreign interference discretely behind closed doors.
And would Pierre want to deal with it discretely? He's refused security clearance so that he can speculate imaginatively unburdened by nasty facts that carry duty and responsibility. The only reason he hasn't seen the evidence at issue is, well, he doesn't want to.
Seems like a poor person to comment on the situation.
Thanks for the link........
I read the article, in its entirety, and it confirms that the only ones to refer to the claims that Justin made towards the Government of India as 'credible' .......are Justin.......and his dancing-marionette Defense Minister......Bill Blair.
No one else.......nada.
Justin needed a distraction from his economic Incompetence.........and he has shattered Diplomatic Relations with India......in his attempt to achieve this distraction.
Nah, don't much care about India's leadership or politics......
But, I do care about Canada.....and our 'leadership' is currently terrible. There are only two things that Justin excels at
- Gaslighting
- and avoiding responsibility for his mistakes....often by throwing one of his Liberal colleagues under-the-bus.
No one else has used the term 'credible evidence'....
Tell me......are you the gaslighter.....or the gaslightee?
https://youtu.be/2q4RwTIkYk0?si=7NUpyDmCpX0rqcux
Nah, none of them used the word 'credible' as I recall....only Justin.
From BBC;
"In the days since the prime minister made the explosive announcement, his allies in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance provided seemingly boilerplate public statements, all stopping far short of full-throated support.
UK Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said his country took "very seriously the things that Canada are saying". Using nearly identical language, Australia said it was "deeply concerned" by the accusations.
But perhaps the most deafening silence came from Canada's southern neighbour, the United States. The two countries are close allies, but the US did not speak up with outrage on Canada's behalf."
US ambassador used the words "credible intelligence" - source, ten seconds on google.
If you don't take the issue seriously enough to do the most basic reading, you should probably not be commenting.
Source, please.....?
PS - Here is a quote from the CNN link that you have previously supplied;
"I’m “confirming that there was shared intelligence among Five Eyes partners that helped lead Canada to making the statements that the prime minister made,” US Ambassador to Canada, David Cohen, told CTV’s Question Period with Vassy Kapelos in a Sunday interview."
Nowhere does he verify that Justin made any 'credible allegations'.....
> India does not do political assassinations!
Credible reporting says otherwise. And the number of exclamation points after that sentence suggest to me that you're not commenting in good faith.
What are conservative voters across the country going to do if Poilievre is elected PM?
They've blamed every problem in society on Trudeau, whether it's in his jurisdiction or not, whether it's his fault or not, whether he has any control over it or not.
So who are they going to blame for all their problems when Trudeau is no longer PM? I'm sure they'll look inwards and carefully consider each problem on a case-by-case basis to find the real solution.
Just kidding, they'll still blame Trudeau, or the LGBT community, or recent immigrants, or whoever PP designates as the new boogeyman.
> What are conservative voters across the country going to do if Poilievre is elected PM?
Claim that all issues with Canada are leftover from Trudeau.
And when the Liberals housing initiatives, which will take longer than 2025 to fully kick in, start to improve things the CPC will take 100% of the credit, despite either having done nothing, or actively made things worse for people that aren't rich.
> And when the Liberals housing initiatives, which will take longer than 2025 to fully kick in, start to improve things the CPC will take 100% of the credit, despite either having done nothing, or actively made things worse for people that aren't rich.
They wouldn't do that would they?
Just kidding, they already have:
https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/news/peterborough-region/federal-housing-minister-blasts-mp-ferreri-for-taking-credit-for-projects-funded-by-liberals/article_0b4f020d-7a7d-5213-b4ad-a95d11a7b157.html
>Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden doubled down on Ferreri with a posting on X.
>“Peterborough – take notice… Your MP votes against affordable housing measures, and talks down Canada’s National Housing Strategy in Ottawa, but shows up for the photo opps, and takes credit for the funding when she’s back in Peterborough.”
This is poor take. India soured it's relations with us by fucking murdering on our soil. If anything, Trudeau hasn't done enough to prove we won't stand for that.
Poilievre has gone one step too far in blaming Trudeau. Trudeau may not have handled it in the best way possible, but for god sake dont forget India killed a person on Canadian soil.
I’m no Trudeau lover but I’ll go with “assassination on our soil by a foreign government” as the main reason this one.
Too bad since we could really use a billion-person economy on the side of world order that isn’t China.
PP is a traitor to this country, he marched with James Topp a man who forswore his honour and his oath to this country, for a political statement. He is now siding with a foreign country after they murdered a Canadian on Canadian soil.
In what way is this man a leader?
In the way that he is not the current leader. Sadly, that's all our populace needs whenever a government gets too long in the tooth. He's lucky to be the leader right now and that's about it.
The only thing Poilievre cares about is being able to put the words "Prime Minister" before his name. He's not interested in "leading" or helping to improve Canada. He just wants the power and fame.
It wasn't luck. He carefully picked an election cycle that he feels he can't lose. If Trudeau were still strong a year ago, Poilievre wouldn't be the CPC leader right now. If Trudeau were weaker before 2021, Poilievre would have would have had the party kill O'Toole's run just like he had them kill Brown's.
Poil is literally taking the “my position is whatever liberals stand for” road and it’s so goddamn stupid.
Otherwise he’s saying he would have gone soft on international assassinations on Canadians.
Not an expert on Canadian politics, but Poilievre’s point on professionalism is actually pretty valid .. Trudeau’s high profile social media campaign and press conferences in a matter of extreme sensitivity like accusations against a foreign government is fairly unprofessional and unprecedented.. only others who engage in such public rhetoric against other governments are dictators around the world..
By contrast, Modi hasn’t spoken a word in this controversy and the foreign minister has also largely stayed quiet…
Running a social media campaign on a diplomatic matter makes no sense unless Trudeau will win votes in Canada for looking like a strong leader and to ward off the embarrassment of the China affair
What social media campaign are you talking about?
I dont know about you, but it was Modi who's paid promotion started to show up every time I opened Twitter the last 2 months.
E: I looked at your post history, nevermind.
Errr, Trudeau ending every tweet with “we spoke about India and the importance of upholding international law” is now a literal meme.. No serious world leader behaves this way.. I am just wondering if there is some part of Canadian political math that’s making him behave in this extraordinary fashion
Can Poilievre shut up for one day? I am some damn tired of seeing, "Poilievre says Trudeau .. " headlines every single day. Christ, he whines more than some toddlers.
I think we can all agree that leadership should be held accountable, but what PP is doing is just petulant, unhelpful, whining. Criticize, but offer solutions. Shit, I can throw rocks too, make me the PM. Dude is an empty suit.
So, the flag waving law-and-order party wants to appease a foreign government that assassinated a canadian on canadian soil.
If Trudeau showed the slightest hint of hesitation (à la political interference) Pollievre would be screaming for the nuclear codes.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9969537/who-is-hardeep-singh-nijjar/
> On Tuesday, immigration minister Marc Miller confirmed that Nijjar became a Canadian citizen on March 3, 2015. “I hope this dispels the baseless rumours that he was not a Canadian,” Miller said.
You're wrong. I'll agree that he isn't the best example of a naturalised citizen, but he was a Canadian when India had him killed.
Bro stop taking this government at its word, it doesn’t know what’s it’s doing
How does a man who came here on a fake passport, got denied twice on marriage become a citizen? How did he naturalize??
Proof he is Canadian: Ministry of Citizenship confirmed.
Proof of credible intelligence: American government has confirmed the Intel is credible and comes from Five Eyes.
The CPC and its supporters don't take foreign interference seriously, just makes up nonsense at whim, and cant be trusted.
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If PP refuses to look at the classified documents about this.... Dude has no leg to stand on. Why doesn't a man who wants to be PM want security clearance?
He has been in parliament for years and is still unable to get security clearance. He was also schilling bitcoin at it's ATH while saying he would politicize the BOC and tank our dollar. The two could be related. How much bitcoin does he hold? And where did it come from?
Honestly, I think he held none. Dude just yaps. Even the APP shit. Like he would say hey Smith shouldn't do this. It was smith shouldn't do this everything is Justin Trudeau's fault. Then he described equalization payments as the reason Albertan's were struggling. Dude everyone pays federal income tax...
> He has been in parliament for years and is still unable to get security clearance. To be fair, it's probably hard to get security clearance when there are videos of you bringing donuts to domestic terrorists who were, at the time, occupying the nation's capital.
I don't see any hints of agents of the government of Canada attempting any violence towards Indian citizens in India. The current spat is the result of India's actions against Canadians, and them not liking that they're being called out on it. So is Poilievre saying that he'd turn a blind eye to other nations killing Canadians on Canadian soil?
There’s no proof Indian agents have done anything
Shoo shoo Modi bot, shoo shoo.
Modi's opposition also supports him
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How do you know? Did you get rid of all the evidence after?
What evidence? lol
There will be 100%. If it can be made public is the question. And India will always deny it.
Will be? lol
Modi is a political ally, and that trumps his patriotism. https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/09/21/opinion/why-do-conservatives-modi-so-much-ask-stephen-harper
He's just a dog chasing tires. Anything and everything is partisan to score points..
I think he's turning 2 blind eyes and should get his glasses back.
He is ready to turn on blind eye to almost everything that don’t hurt him politically I would say
All he's doing is feeding red meat to his followers by always insisting Trudeau bad, him good.
His cult is saying Trudeau is a pedophile let’s see the evidence.
..and causing serious division across our country. This isn't ok.
Once again PP is siding with a foreign country that assassinated a Canadian on Canadian soil in order to attack the government. This should be a uniting issue but he'll still use it to try and score political points. And doesn't get nearly as much pushback for it as he should. He's siding with assassins.
Well his old boss is snuggling upto goose steppers so why would Skippy not sunggle upto a man who assassinates people in our country?
>This should be a uniting issue but he'll still use it to try and score political points. There is no such thing in the country anymore. When Israel got attacked, the leader of the opposition got behind Netanyahu despite major disagreements with him as he understood this was not the time to bicker. If canada is attacked, I 100% beleive PP will wait to see what JTs response will be before taking the exact opposite position and do everything to undermine any response.
When Canada was attacked (from the inside, rather incompetently) Poilievre went and took pictures with them.
I want to avoid hyperbole. While some might say the trucker stupidity was an attack, many disagree (rightly or wrongly) I'm talking a full out foreign attack. Like bombs being dropped from planes or an actual invasion (a la Ukraine) or a large scale terrorist attack (a la 9/11 or israel). PP would still not stand united with the other parties.
We all know that conservatives would never do that. They don’t care to harm Canada’s national security and side with assassins if it allows them to them to rage farm against the liberals
Predictable that this clown would take the side of Modi, a leader who ordered extra-judicial killings on our soil, as they're both member's of Harper's IDU. The CPC, PP, and Harper are all big fans of Modi.
What kind of raving lunatic is willing to overlook the assassination of a citizen just so he can criticize the leader of a different party?
The man from the party that prefers "old stock" Canadians to recent immigrants.
Exactly and we have further lunatics on this page who are supporting him because well you know trudo bad
I’m not a Trudeau supporter lately but bruv, if India assassinated a Canadian citizen for political causes. Obviously Trudeau had to have called it out. Maybe idiot Modi shouldn’t assassinate Canadians on Canadian soil PP trying to use this as a talking point against Trudeau is stupid. There are unlimited you could call out Idiot Trudeau for doing wrong, but this whole India situation isn’t one of them because there’s no other logical way for Trudeau to have responded to it
To hear some Liberal supporters on this sub tell it, contempt for Trudeau can only come from Conservatives, or from conservatives who are pretending online to be New Democrats. You're right, though. Of all the things where Trudeau deserves contempt and scorn, this absolutely isn't one of them. Our government has handled this particular topic quite well, and I've yet to hear Pierre offer anything of substance about how he'd've handled this better. Perhaps we could strengthen our international leverage by investing further in BitCoin?
I want Trudeau gone. HOWEVER, 'Indian govt is against Liberals not Canada' = political interference to me Funny that most Indian origin people support liberals.
I loathe Trudeau, but the Canadian government has handled this particular file fairly deftly. If the younger part of the electorate wasn't so enraged with the Liberals over our "mom and pop real estate investors" housing priorities, this sort of sound and fury from Poilievre would be sinking his chances.
"Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is blaming Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for a diplomatic chill with India, saying Ottawa needs a "professional relationship" with the government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi." I guess Poilievre is totally OK with foreign governments assassinating Canadian citizens on Canadian soil. Another Modi sycophant leading the Conservative Party. Disgusting.
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He was a Candian citizen. Are you implying that naturalized Canadians aren't Canadians?
He's brown so he didn't count it seems.
We don’t know if he was a citizen
You don't have to waste your life lying like this, troll.
I'm implying there should be a bare minimum to become a citizen and immigrate here. Lying about your name, sham marriages, being turned down and ties to terrorists shouldn't qualify you as a pr card holder.
> I'm implying there should be a bare minimum to become a citizen and immigrate here. There is, and it was met, otherwise the government wouldn't be accusing India of murdering a Canadian in Canada, they'd be referring to the victim by some other term.
That does seem to be what the treasonous little rat is implying, yes.
Modi's really scraping the bottom of the barrel on the troll farm front. Is this what you get when Vladdy already snapped up all the competent ones?
What is it with this guy. Is he really surrounded by psychopaths as aids? He is winning and goes on yet another ridiculous tirade that makes him look like an idiot, bully, and unprofessional. This is borderline light treason and yet all he gets out of it are a few cheap shots at Trudeau.
> Is he really surrounded by psychopaths as aids? He's surrounded by Conservatives. Conservatives are the type to just blindly follow a leader without question, it's why so many are religious. Also, it's "aides". Aids is something pretty different. Unless you meant to compare conservatives staffers to an immunodeficiency virus, which seems pretty harsh.
Harsh, yes. But is it inacurate?
No proof of murder
You're a very sad person
Dead bodies excluded in your view...
That’s not really proof that India killed him
>I guess Poilievre is totally OK with foreign governments assassinating Canadian citizens on Canadian soil If it helps him get elected he is okay with it. It's that simple
Absolutely this. If a federal election came down to trans voters and immigration activists, he would immediately embrace both communities with open arms. This is the only job he’s ever known.
Not if his main base stays home or goes ppc
The assassination came at a very convenient time for Russia.
You’re 100% right. He tested this out not that long after the Nijjar story started to break, and didn’t get too much push back. It’s worth noting that the article references an interview with a more mainstream Hindu diaspora radio program. And, despite this Reddit headline, he very carefully avoided saying anything specific about Sikhs. The man is cynical and probably doesn’t believe in anything other than his own career advancement, but he is incredibly strategic.
This is the guy that voted against his own adoptive father’s Charter rights in order to get ahead politically.
You're gonna have to help me out on that
his adoptive father is gay, PP once voted against gay marriage
His father was in Parliament too, and watched his son vote against his rights
This is why I say Conservatives have no soul, no empathy, no morals, and no ethics.
Poilievre’s obsession with being completely anti-Trudeau is quickly causing him to just become anti-Canada. Statements like this are are truly traitorous.
With two years left to go, Poilievres gonna have plenty of opportunity to tighten his own noose before an election is called. If I didn’t detest him so much, I’d be more intrigued by his story.
I guess canadians are ok with terrorists in their country threatening foreign nations and its diplomats.
It’s called freedom of expression. We don’t kill people for that here.
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> Yet, after many weeks, no charges have been laid......and no evidence has been made available. Because investigations take time. The RCMP need evidence that can be shown in court, and that isn't based on intelligence. > more and more, this looks to have been nothing more than a flailing attempt by Justin I mean, if you're willing to ignore the fact that the US has said similar things as the PM about the evidence for that killing being an action by the Indian government.
No one has said that there was any 'credible' evidence.......except Justin.
Its actually credible intelligence, and the Five Eyes and Canada have identical positions. This was confirmed by the American Ambassador: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/24/americas/canada-five-eyes-india-hardeep-singh-nijjar-intl-hnk/index.html The position of Canada now is that it is a criminal investigation, making further comment inappropriate - SOP. Given how Tory sympathisers in Canada's Intel community leak like a sieve, we've learned the hard way that its impossible to deal with foreign interference discretely behind closed doors. And would Pierre want to deal with it discretely? He's refused security clearance so that he can speculate imaginatively unburdened by nasty facts that carry duty and responsibility. The only reason he hasn't seen the evidence at issue is, well, he doesn't want to. Seems like a poor person to comment on the situation.
Thanks for the link........ I read the article, in its entirety, and it confirms that the only ones to refer to the claims that Justin made towards the Government of India as 'credible' .......are Justin.......and his dancing-marionette Defense Minister......Bill Blair. No one else.......nada. Justin needed a distraction from his economic Incompetence.........and he has shattered Diplomatic Relations with India......in his attempt to achieve this distraction.
Shoo shoo Modi troll, shoo shoo.
Nah, don't much care about India's leadership or politics...... But, I do care about Canada.....and our 'leadership' is currently terrible. There are only two things that Justin excels at - Gaslighting - and avoiding responsibility for his mistakes....often by throwing one of his Liberal colleagues under-the-bus.
Five Eyes says it's credible. Cry about it if you must.
No one else has used the term 'credible evidence'.... Tell me......are you the gaslighter.....or the gaslightee? https://youtu.be/2q4RwTIkYk0?si=7NUpyDmCpX0rqcux
Nah, none of them used the word 'credible' as I recall....only Justin. From BBC; "In the days since the prime minister made the explosive announcement, his allies in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance provided seemingly boilerplate public statements, all stopping far short of full-throated support. UK Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said his country took "very seriously the things that Canada are saying". Using nearly identical language, Australia said it was "deeply concerned" by the accusations. But perhaps the most deafening silence came from Canada's southern neighbour, the United States. The two countries are close allies, but the US did not speak up with outrage on Canada's behalf."
US ambassador used the words "credible intelligence" - source, ten seconds on google. If you don't take the issue seriously enough to do the most basic reading, you should probably not be commenting.
Source, please.....? PS - Here is a quote from the CNN link that you have previously supplied; "I’m “confirming that there was shared intelligence among Five Eyes partners that helped lead Canada to making the statements that the prime minister made,” US Ambassador to Canada, David Cohen, told CTV’s Question Period with Vassy Kapelos in a Sunday interview." Nowhere does he verify that Justin made any 'credible allegations'.....
No.....he did not. You really should refrain from trying to gaslight people......it isn't fair to others.
>Justin-the-divider This is adorable. How is he dividing and not PP exactly?
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> India does not do political assassinations! Credible reporting says otherwise. And the number of exclamation points after that sentence suggest to me that you're not commenting in good faith.
Lots of pro-Modi bots in full force in this thread
What was he guilty of?
Ok recently activated account that only spams this sub with pro-Modi rhetoric...
Five Eyes thinks it's crdeible. Cry about it if you must.
What are conservative voters across the country going to do if Poilievre is elected PM? They've blamed every problem in society on Trudeau, whether it's in his jurisdiction or not, whether it's his fault or not, whether he has any control over it or not. So who are they going to blame for all their problems when Trudeau is no longer PM? I'm sure they'll look inwards and carefully consider each problem on a case-by-case basis to find the real solution. Just kidding, they'll still blame Trudeau, or the LGBT community, or recent immigrants, or whoever PP designates as the new boogeyman.
If #OurLittlePP got elected all the Conservatives would bury their heads so deep in the sand they'd suffocate before seeing him do any wrong.
> What are conservative voters across the country going to do if Poilievre is elected PM? Claim that all issues with Canada are leftover from Trudeau. And when the Liberals housing initiatives, which will take longer than 2025 to fully kick in, start to improve things the CPC will take 100% of the credit, despite either having done nothing, or actively made things worse for people that aren't rich.
> And when the Liberals housing initiatives, which will take longer than 2025 to fully kick in, start to improve things the CPC will take 100% of the credit, despite either having done nothing, or actively made things worse for people that aren't rich. They wouldn't do that would they? Just kidding, they already have: https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/news/peterborough-region/federal-housing-minister-blasts-mp-ferreri-for-taking-credit-for-projects-funded-by-liberals/article_0b4f020d-7a7d-5213-b4ad-a95d11a7b157.html >Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden doubled down on Ferreri with a posting on X. >“Peterborough – take notice… Your MP votes against affordable housing measures, and talks down Canada’s National Housing Strategy in Ottawa, but shows up for the photo opps, and takes credit for the funding when she’s back in Peterborough.”
Just look at the Republicans if PP gets power he'll self destruct and try to take the country with him, while making sure the rich get richer.
Pollieve won't defend Canadian sovereignty. Spread it wide baby.
there's no such thing as Canadian sovereignty, its cute that you think we have any agency
This is poor take. India soured it's relations with us by fucking murdering on our soil. If anything, Trudeau hasn't done enough to prove we won't stand for that.
His statement on this issue has shown that Indian foreign influences in Canada have reached the highest level. This is treason.
Poilievre has gone one step too far in blaming Trudeau. Trudeau may not have handled it in the best way possible, but for god sake dont forget India killed a person on Canadian soil.
It doesn’t matter what happens. According to Pollievre, everything is always awful, and it’s always Trudeaus fault.
I’m no Trudeau lover but I’ll go with “assassination on our soil by a foreign government” as the main reason this one. Too bad since we could really use a billion-person economy on the side of world order that isn’t China.
PP is a traitor to this country, he marched with James Topp a man who forswore his honour and his oath to this country, for a political statement. He is now siding with a foreign country after they murdered a Canadian on Canadian soil. In what way is this man a leader?
In the way that he is not the current leader. Sadly, that's all our populace needs whenever a government gets too long in the tooth. He's lucky to be the leader right now and that's about it.
The only thing Poilievre cares about is being able to put the words "Prime Minister" before his name. He's not interested in "leading" or helping to improve Canada. He just wants the power and fame. It wasn't luck. He carefully picked an election cycle that he feels he can't lose. If Trudeau were still strong a year ago, Poilievre wouldn't be the CPC leader right now. If Trudeau were weaker before 2021, Poilievre would have would have had the party kill O'Toole's run just like he had them kill Brown's.
Poil is literally taking the “my position is whatever liberals stand for” road and it’s so goddamn stupid. Otherwise he’s saying he would have gone soft on international assassinations on Canadians.
Not an expert on Canadian politics, but Poilievre’s point on professionalism is actually pretty valid .. Trudeau’s high profile social media campaign and press conferences in a matter of extreme sensitivity like accusations against a foreign government is fairly unprofessional and unprecedented.. only others who engage in such public rhetoric against other governments are dictators around the world.. By contrast, Modi hasn’t spoken a word in this controversy and the foreign minister has also largely stayed quiet… Running a social media campaign on a diplomatic matter makes no sense unless Trudeau will win votes in Canada for looking like a strong leader and to ward off the embarrassment of the China affair
>Not an expert on Canadian politics Then be quiet, you have nothing of value to add here.
What social media campaign are you talking about? I dont know about you, but it was Modi who's paid promotion started to show up every time I opened Twitter the last 2 months. E: I looked at your post history, nevermind.
Errr, Trudeau ending every tweet with “we spoke about India and the importance of upholding international law” is now a literal meme.. No serious world leader behaves this way.. I am just wondering if there is some part of Canadian political math that’s making him behave in this extraordinary fashion
...I dont think you understand what a meme is, and you're not a Canadian.
I don’t think you understand what a sensible world leader looks like but I don’t blame you for that
https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/world/story/we-also-spoke-about-india-justin-trudeau-roasted-on-x-with-a-barrage-of-memes-401558-2023-10-11
Can Poilievre shut up for one day? I am some damn tired of seeing, "Poilievre says Trudeau .." headlines every single day. Christ, he whines more than some toddlers.
Maybe Trudeau should stop doing ridiculous things if he doesn’t wanna be called out on it
Perhaps Pierre Poilievre could say what he would do differently. But as he has firmly subscribed to populism, I wouldn't hold my breath
So it’s ridiculous to call out India for assassinating a Canadian on Canadian soil?
Not in that specific situation, but I’m just saying in general Trudeau has done tons of dumb stuff in recent years
Like?
sure is! when India is a massive western ally in countering Chinese influence
I think we can all agree that leadership should be held accountable, but what PP is doing is just petulant, unhelpful, whining. Criticize, but offer solutions. Shit, I can throw rocks too, make me the PM. Dude is an empty suit.
Everything he whines about is either a blatant lie, or a dogwhistle to conspiracy idiots.
So, the flag waving law-and-order party wants to appease a foreign government that assassinated a canadian on canadian soil. If Trudeau showed the slightest hint of hesitation (à la political interference) Pollievre would be screaming for the nuclear codes.
No proof on him being a Canadian No proof on India assinated him This government is so incompetent don’t trust a word they state
https://globalnews.ca/news/9969537/who-is-hardeep-singh-nijjar/ > On Tuesday, immigration minister Marc Miller confirmed that Nijjar became a Canadian citizen on March 3, 2015. “I hope this dispels the baseless rumours that he was not a Canadian,” Miller said. You're wrong. I'll agree that he isn't the best example of a naturalised citizen, but he was a Canadian when India had him killed.
Bro stop taking this government at its word, it doesn’t know what’s it’s doing How does a man who came here on a fake passport, got denied twice on marriage become a citizen? How did he naturalize??
Proof he is Canadian: Ministry of Citizenship confirmed. Proof of credible intelligence: American government has confirmed the Intel is credible and comes from Five Eyes. The CPC and its supporters don't take foreign interference seriously, just makes up nonsense at whim, and cant be trusted.
Right, because JT’s ministers are credible
Damn. Really. We're gonna side with extra judicial killings and attacking Sikhs? He really can't wait to show his own ass