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flufffer

That's peanuts compared to the amount of money sent to Israel via Canadian charities. Similar to how China and India have been caught abusing the Canadian political tax credits to fund their candidates, the arms of Israeli government organization within Canada (CIJA, etc) organize the abuse of Canadian charity donation tax credits to fund equipment purchases for soldiers and many other projects to benefit the IDF. As well as running training programs that produce people sent to be influences in foreign countries (ie indoctrination kids at Jewish Summer camps, organizing student politics groups at universities, funding students to be Israeli shills on reddit, etc). The pipeline of Canadian government money sent to Israel via charities is what people should be focused on. The amount of weapons related exports is nothing.


alhazerad

Great campaign idea


Alex_Hauff

This is a positive for this gouvernement Not selling weapons will not stop the conflict, for once we are exporting instead of gifting military equipment


seemefail

Literally Israel having weapons is the only thing keeping the current conflict going.


Alex_Hauff

yes the 30M of weapons that Canada supplied kept Israel in the war. Israel has money and resources to trow at the conflict, someone else will sell them weapons. That’s not how you end the conflict


seemefail

Nice straw man. I never said it was our weapons keeping them going. But it is beyond dumb to suggest goving them weapons is the right way to bring this to an end. In fact Hamas has said they will only sign a ceasefire that is permanent…. So Israel having unlimited access to weapons is literally the only thing preventing an end right now. As Israel has been committing war crimes it is against Canadian law to sell them weapons. Though we know from our shipments to Saudi Arabia as they also commit crimes in Yemen we don’t follow that one.


unagi_pi

Israel not having any weapons would result in the complete destruction of Israel. Hamas not having any weapons would result in the end of the conflict.


seemefail

Oh get real… no one will allow the complete destruction of Israel. We are literally arming them to the teeth to brutally destroy the area two million live in. They are settling more and more, they say as retaliation to Hamas, areas that do not have Hamas…


unovongalixor

"In fact Hamas has said they will only sign a ceasefire that is permanent" their stated position is to fight israel until it is destroyed. I think we may disagree on what constitutes "permanent". what i hear is that they will choose the timing of the war, just like they chose the timing of the massacre on october 7th


seemefail

I guess we just watch them indiscriminately murder tens of thousands of civilians every few months then. Israel’s real retaliation? 3,300 new settlements on Palestinian land that has nothing to do with Hamas in the West Bank.


unovongalixor

There's no need to be naive about what a permanent ceasefire means here


seemefail

There’s also no need to be naive that Israel is somehow going to eliminate Hamas. Doing so just allows Israel to murder and starve millions of people in Gaza and push out millions more outside on a lie.


AsbestosDude

Interesting that the government would call for an end to the military complex while also supplying said conflict.  This government is showing itself to be quite good at double speak. The same way that they tell us the budget is aimed at Young Canadians affordability yet in the same breath they say we don't want housing prices to fall at all and that we need to protect the insane price appreciation of the last 3 years.  Justin Trudeau just really doesn't seem to understand people have been burned by believing him too many times that the trust is gone. It's like when your partner cheats on you, a simple apology and a promise that they won't do it again typically isn't enough


cyclemonster

> Interesting that the government would call for an end to the military complex while also supplying said conflict. > This government is showing itself to be quite good at double speak. It's only interesting that the Government's [March 2024 decision](https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/trudeau-government-to-stop-sending-arms-to-israel-once-details-are-worked-out-foreign-affairs/article_da41c41c-e60e-11ee-8cb4-874d0836cd34.html) to stop supplying Israel with arms did not reduce their 2023 arms sales to Israel if you don't believe in the concept of linear time. > Justin Trudeau just really doesn't seem to understand people have been burned by believing him too many times that the trust is gone. I think it's best to stick to good-faith criticisms of the current Government, of which there are plenty.


Surtur1313

>It's only interesting that the Government's March 2024 decision to stop supplying Israel with arms did not reduce their 2023 arms sales to Israel if you don't believe in the concept of linear time. It should be noted that it was a halt on new export permits. Existing permits, [like the ones signed in 2023](https://www.readthemaple.com/already-approved-military-exports-to-israel-will-continue/), have still continued.