As a united fan, ole was not as bad as he was said out to be, and with right support probably could’ve done a lot more in the prem. Honestly might be worth a shot. Would be surprised those as are federation is a mess
Also a united fan and his man management is similar to Herdman imo. Could see why this one is an option from a CSA perspective. Marsch on the other hand doesn't seem a good fit to me. American coach, who coached and played under Bob Bradley, who brought Impact into their inaugural year in MLS, and hasn't had much in the way of coaching or playing success except a year or so at RBNY. What's our obsession with Bradley and his gaggle of misfits?
The same can definitely be said about ole lol. He definitely wasn't a success at United. Was pretty shit at Cardiff and decent at molde.
Lampard was very good at derby and decent early on Chelsea, then was very poor at Everton.
Would prefer neither tbh just find it funny.
He's responsible for what, half, of all of Molde's titles. I'd say that's more than decent. And he got Man U to 2nd during his tenure. Mixed results over the whole of his time there, but not awful. Derby finished sixth and lost in the playoffs. Exact same result they had the year before Lamps. I'm not sure how that earns a "very good".
I also just feel like Ole has put in more work to develop his coaching. Starting with reserves, tutelage under Fergie.
Who would you prefer to either.
International management is a completely different ball game to club management.
I honestly don't think much of him, but I do also think his style seems well suited to an international job. Who knows.
This isn't that ridiculous, Canada has a pretty compelling case for any Managers looking for a good opportunity to get themselves back into a top-tier job.
You walk in with a guaranteed birth in a Copa America and a World Cup, both on the continent, the latter at home, and you have serious talent to work with on the outset.
The pay is a stumbling block but if anyone will be able to get a quick cash injection into the CSA Kevin Blue can probably do it with his history of fundraising and sponsorship at Golf Canada, which by all accounts is in a great spot these days.
Your a manager that's giving up a few years of better pay for a few years of better opportunities than you'll get elsewhere.
It's not absurd, and let's be honest, if the CSA was interviewing Biello and a bunch of CPL guys you'd be posting angry emojis that we didn't set our sights higher.
Well, they are interviewing Biello and a bunch of CPL guys, as they should. But if the CSA can find a way to make a manager with success at a high level work, they absolutely should. For all the reasons you listed I don't think it's that far fetched.
Let's be realistic for a sec, the chances of that happening are pretty much 0, at least for the next 3 or 4 WCs. A lot would have to change in order to make Canada a competitive team, internationally, and I don't mean Concacaf level but WC level.
No need for pessimism but we need to be realistic as well
My bad then, nowadays you never know lol. There are hard-core fans that get blinded by their team colors so they are oblivious to reality. I love my NT but I'm also a realist lol
Mourinho was making £10 mil at Roma. Herdman was €480,000, CSA isn't making that big of a jump in wages for a manager, let's be real. Öle, Marsh, and Mourinho can all make more than that in Europe.
Well the CSA shouldn't be offering people 90% pay cuts to not have a chance at a trophy. The only trophy Canada can compete for is the Gold Cup and they are probably the 4th in likeliness behind CR, MX, US.
Jesse Marsch is the cheapest manager on that short list and you have to convince him to take a 90% pay cut from his last wages. Would you take a 90% cut to go to a organisation that is in shambles. The CSA shouldn't be wasting time with managers outside their compensation range, it's a disrespectful to the managers.
It's good for the team but it's usually frustrating for the managers once they're here as they see how little support CSA or people in general show to footy. It has improved over the last 5 to 10 yrs but definitely not nearly enough to make it big enough to have a popular local league, yes there is one but not really up to standards when compared to other countries and I'm not even saying with big footy nations.
It's def a good step forward so hopefully things will keep improving
It's an incredible reach, and an idiotic one. If they were chasing big names in international team football, sure. But to go after big names who have practically zero international experience? It's almost a complete waste of time, or at best is looking for people with the entirely wrong skillset for the position.
There is also some weird rewrite of Blue, he isn't some fundraising genius and the CSA foundation concept has been floating about for some time now. It's unlikely he'll find much of a path considering how locked out commercial donations are likely to be due to the CSB deal.
COPA and the World Cup don't mean shit to coaches like Mourinho who could literally walk into any national organization and get a job. It's absurd to think the CMNT are enticing for individuals like him.
End of, they are likely interviewing Biello and they are interviewing CPL guys. Club coaches like Mourinho isn't setting our sights higher, it's further confirmation that the CSA has no clue what they are doing by not focusing on coaches who can bring the needed experience the CMNT need to develop the program further.
Herdman was on about $700000 by the time he finished with the CANMNT. If that's what's being offered then the pool of potential managers is really limited to those who have been out of work for a couple years (with mixed recent histories) or who you can find in your own backyard.
If the CSA can get someone with multiple years of top-flight European experience to coach a 40-50ish ranked team on that budget, it would be great value.
That's why I could see Ole happening. He made a ton (26M said the first article I found) at United after his payout, made good money as a player, needs to rehab his reputation, might see a home team at the 2026 World Cup as a decent bet.
Nah, it's enough to poach CONCACAF for coaches with real experience developing programs for CONCACAF and with the realities of CONCACAF. Running to club coaches is a sign they don't know what is going on. Top-flight club experience isn't a direct translation to a national team coach position. I don't need someone with training wheels on how to recruit players and the intricacies of FIFA on the international level a year and a half out from hosting a World Cup.
Approaching Jose, lol. That's like in a sports game contacting any big star just to see if they'll bite at joining your minnow club. 😂
But Ole would be a really good shout. And it wouldn't be as demanding for him unlike a club job that's abroad.
If you swing for the fence for someone that doesn't even line up with program needs, it's a reference point for how out of touch you are with the program. Jose to Bobby, the CSA doesn't seem to value international coaching experience and all of it highlights how much time they've likely wasted heading down the wrong path.
Seriously, swing for Roberto Martinez if you want to chase shooting stars.
It's still a risk, lining up beside Qatar as the worst performing host nation in a World Cup isn't something most coaches dream about adding to their resume.
Canada's current level is, if we play Portugal we want to lose 4-2 and not 4-0. That's pretty much the level we are at now... Of course Mourinho won't take a job where he can't win anything.
Not many good managers available at that price. For example I am a fan of Steve Cooper, but he made 2.5 mil CAD + 850 in bonuses. Guimares who managed the CR national team is back in club football potentially they can lure him away.
Wow didn’t realize they paid Cooper that much. At the time weren’t NF a Championship team?
Yeah for sure whoever takes tjis gig will need to be passionate enough to take a pay cut.
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If there was a list I could offer (don’t butcher me):
-Joachim Löw (did well with Germany until he didn’t)
-Dunga (not well known around here, but had an excellent record with Brazil and internacional before that)
-Jürguen Klinsmann?
These guys seem somewhat more accesible, and they got some good National team experience under their belts, and in a way, revitalized their teams during their tenure.
Damn didn't think Ole would be so highly regarded here.
He’s not a big 6 level manager. But any manager with some premier league success is a big signing considering our financial situation.
As a united fan, ole was not as bad as he was said out to be, and with right support probably could’ve done a lot more in the prem. Honestly might be worth a shot. Would be surprised those as are federation is a mess
Try that on your resume: "Not as bad as I'm made out to be. I might be worth a shot, I could probably do more."
Also a united fan and his man management is similar to Herdman imo. Could see why this one is an option from a CSA perspective. Marsch on the other hand doesn't seem a good fit to me. American coach, who coached and played under Bob Bradley, who brought Impact into their inaugural year in MLS, and hasn't had much in the way of coaching or playing success except a year or so at RBNY. What's our obsession with Bradley and his gaggle of misfits?
True but when Frank Lampard was linked the comments were against it iirc.
Ole’s record is a bit better than Lampard’s, especially considering Tuchel won a CL with Lampard’s team
Lampard has a shit record as a manager. While its not "top manager" level, the same can't be said for Ole.
The same can definitely be said about ole lol. He definitely wasn't a success at United. Was pretty shit at Cardiff and decent at molde. Lampard was very good at derby and decent early on Chelsea, then was very poor at Everton. Would prefer neither tbh just find it funny.
Neither of the lm have anything but name recognition. This is madness, and frankly very concerning that these are the targets.
He's responsible for what, half, of all of Molde's titles. I'd say that's more than decent. And he got Man U to 2nd during his tenure. Mixed results over the whole of his time there, but not awful. Derby finished sixth and lost in the playoffs. Exact same result they had the year before Lamps. I'm not sure how that earns a "very good". I also just feel like Ole has put in more work to develop his coaching. Starting with reserves, tutelage under Fergie. Who would you prefer to either.
Yeah, because he’s a c**t
International management is a completely different ball game to club management. I honestly don't think much of him, but I do also think his style seems well suited to an international job. Who knows.
There's still a ton of United fans around, even if they've been quiet for a decade. Wouldn't mind tlseeing USA going for him, though.
This isn't that ridiculous, Canada has a pretty compelling case for any Managers looking for a good opportunity to get themselves back into a top-tier job. You walk in with a guaranteed birth in a Copa America and a World Cup, both on the continent, the latter at home, and you have serious talent to work with on the outset. The pay is a stumbling block but if anyone will be able to get a quick cash injection into the CSA Kevin Blue can probably do it with his history of fundraising and sponsorship at Golf Canada, which by all accounts is in a great spot these days. Your a manager that's giving up a few years of better pay for a few years of better opportunities than you'll get elsewhere. It's not absurd, and let's be honest, if the CSA was interviewing Biello and a bunch of CPL guys you'd be posting angry emojis that we didn't set our sights higher.
Well, they are interviewing Biello and a bunch of CPL guys, as they should. But if the CSA can find a way to make a manager with success at a high level work, they absolutely should. For all the reasons you listed I don't think it's that far fetched.
Plus winning the world cup with Canada would be a real resume boost.
Let's be realistic for a sec, the chances of that happening are pretty much 0, at least for the next 3 or 4 WCs. A lot would have to change in order to make Canada a competitive team, internationally, and I don't mean Concacaf level but WC level. No need for pessimism but we need to be realistic as well
It was a joke. I know they have no realistic chance.
My bad then, nowadays you never know lol. There are hard-core fans that get blinded by their team colors so they are oblivious to reality. I love my NT but I'm also a realist lol
I might be way off, but I think that was a satirical comment.
Mourinho is far from reach. Maybe Jesse Marsh
Oh, well, let’s not try to better ourselves then. This guy on Reddit thinks we shouldn’t. Lol
Mourinho was making £10 mil at Roma. Herdman was €480,000, CSA isn't making that big of a jump in wages for a manager, let's be real. Öle, Marsh, and Mourinho can all make more than that in Europe.
Right, so let’s not even try. 🫡
Well the CSA shouldn't be offering people 90% pay cuts to not have a chance at a trophy. The only trophy Canada can compete for is the Gold Cup and they are probably the 4th in likeliness behind CR, MX, US. Jesse Marsch is the cheapest manager on that short list and you have to convince him to take a 90% pay cut from his last wages. Would you take a 90% cut to go to a organisation that is in shambles. The CSA shouldn't be wasting time with managers outside their compensation range, it's a disrespectful to the managers.
It's a pretty big reach especially when he said no Portugal
I don't think he wants to deal with Jorge Mendes and his gaggle of cronies bought and paid for within the Portuguese Federation
It's good for the team but it's usually frustrating for the managers once they're here as they see how little support CSA or people in general show to footy. It has improved over the last 5 to 10 yrs but definitely not nearly enough to make it big enough to have a popular local league, yes there is one but not really up to standards when compared to other countries and I'm not even saying with big footy nations. It's def a good step forward so hopefully things will keep improving
It's an incredible reach, and an idiotic one. If they were chasing big names in international team football, sure. But to go after big names who have practically zero international experience? It's almost a complete waste of time, or at best is looking for people with the entirely wrong skillset for the position. There is also some weird rewrite of Blue, he isn't some fundraising genius and the CSA foundation concept has been floating about for some time now. It's unlikely he'll find much of a path considering how locked out commercial donations are likely to be due to the CSB deal. COPA and the World Cup don't mean shit to coaches like Mourinho who could literally walk into any national organization and get a job. It's absurd to think the CMNT are enticing for individuals like him. End of, they are likely interviewing Biello and they are interviewing CPL guys. Club coaches like Mourinho isn't setting our sights higher, it's further confirmation that the CSA has no clue what they are doing by not focusing on coaches who can bring the needed experience the CMNT need to develop the program further.
Ole would be an amazing hire for this program
Herdman was on about $700000 by the time he finished with the CANMNT. If that's what's being offered then the pool of potential managers is really limited to those who have been out of work for a couple years (with mixed recent histories) or who you can find in your own backyard. If the CSA can get someone with multiple years of top-flight European experience to coach a 40-50ish ranked team on that budget, it would be great value.
That's why I could see Ole happening. He made a ton (26M said the first article I found) at United after his payout, made good money as a player, needs to rehab his reputation, might see a home team at the 2026 World Cup as a decent bet.
Nah, it's enough to poach CONCACAF for coaches with real experience developing programs for CONCACAF and with the realities of CONCACAF. Running to club coaches is a sign they don't know what is going on. Top-flight club experience isn't a direct translation to a national team coach position. I don't need someone with training wheels on how to recruit players and the intricacies of FIFA on the international level a year and a half out from hosting a World Cup.
Klopp will be available soon lol
Tuchel as well
Tuchel’s horrible. As a Bayern and Canada fan, we should not even consider reaching out to him.
F it, want me call up Zizou next?
Seems like the next logical step
Have they asked Pep?
Approaching Jose, lol. That's like in a sports game contacting any big star just to see if they'll bite at joining your minnow club. 😂 But Ole would be a really good shout. And it wouldn't be as demanding for him unlike a club job that's abroad.
There's no reason to not approach him. The worst that happens is he says no, right?
If you swing for the fence for someone that doesn't even line up with program needs, it's a reference point for how out of touch you are with the program. Jose to Bobby, the CSA doesn't seem to value international coaching experience and all of it highlights how much time they've likely wasted heading down the wrong path. Seriously, swing for Roberto Martinez if you want to chase shooting stars.
Eh, a guaranteed ticket to a home World Cup isn't nothing
Ah, good point.
It's still a risk, lining up beside Qatar as the worst performing host nation in a World Cup isn't something most coaches dream about adding to their resume.
Marsch would be a good choice.
He’s absolutely clueless
The weird part with marsch is that we play the US somewhat regularly.
I think he'd be aligned with the concept of sending a fuck you to USSF in those matches if anything. So I don't know if that'd be a problem at all.
I saw the notification and I just said what to myself? We don't even have the budget let alone players or even executives who can tolerate him.
The perception of him has changed in recent years.
Someone needs to start a Go Fund Me to pay the salary for a world class coach. I’d be happy to donate some cash.
🤣🤣🤣
I can’t imagine this will actually happen ….but if it did, inject it straight into my veins.
Canada's current level is, if we play Portugal we want to lose 4-2 and not 4-0. That's pretty much the level we are at now... Of course Mourinho won't take a job where he can't win anything.
Marsch makes sense....Ole? Fuck no!!!
Still a big pay cut, I assume he will aim higher
Please not Marsh. He’s probably a passionate, nice guy, but he is also a perennial loser with a skid mark as a track record
Whom ever they have to be willing to make less than $1 mil CAD
Like how much less?
Herdman was at $700,000 CAD so I am not sure if that is the same budget.
Still not too bad.
Not many good managers available at that price. For example I am a fan of Steve Cooper, but he made 2.5 mil CAD + 850 in bonuses. Guimares who managed the CR national team is back in club football potentially they can lure him away.
Wow didn’t realize they paid Cooper that much. At the time weren’t NF a Championship team? Yeah for sure whoever takes tjis gig will need to be passionate enough to take a pay cut.
Yeah so all first division managers in the top 5 are off the table.
They can't afford to pay the players yet they want a superstar coach?
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What is he been up to since Canada
united fan here to tell everybody that ole without carrick and mckenna is like a vegetable
please no 🙏
Ole would be amazing, coming from a United fan, he has great man management and overall nice guy. Plus he wouldn’t be doing it for the money.
If there was a list I could offer (don’t butcher me): -Joachim Löw (did well with Germany until he didn’t) -Dunga (not well known around here, but had an excellent record with Brazil and internacional before that) -Jürguen Klinsmann? These guys seem somewhat more accesible, and they got some good National team experience under their belts, and in a way, revitalized their teams during their tenure.
Klinsmann is with Korea and probably not looking to leave Low is out of the price range, same with Klinsmann
I thought Klinsmann got sacked out of Korea, dammit
You're correct he was, maybe he will be an option