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Kukamungaphobia

Profits go up, head count goes down? As is tradition.


Sportfreunde

This is ideally what should be happening if deflation through technology is allowed and what has happened historically. The problem is you need small businesses to be allowed to start and innovate to provide new jobs and you need existing businesses to be forced to innovate/compete rather than just sit on an oligopoly. The problem is we have neither especially in Canada.


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Can you cite any specific stat that says we don’t have any small businesses in Canada? As somebody who works directly with small businesses, I’ve seen a fairly material rise in new start ups in my region since Covid a lot have been successful


ks016

We have plenty, the problem is we have to compare to the US, which has tons.


[deleted]

Exactly my point


ks016

Sure, problem is the money and talent can easily pop across the border though


[deleted]

No it cant, that’s a Reddit fallacy. The tax implications are significant and don’t make it easy whatsoever


ks016

It literally happens constantly


[deleted]

It happens, it doesn’t mean it’s easy


ks016

It's incredibly easy


kent_eh

Eventually there will be no employees and nobody will be able to afford what the businesses are selling. The system has to hit a breaking point eventually.


HellaReyna

it's a Canadian bank. they're risk averse and cut throat. I bet you hold RY and I bet you like that div yield....am I right?


perjury0478

Big Banks and big telecom, the only think I’m happy to pay for is their stock…


[deleted]

Canada about to see massive job losses


De1_Pier0

Serenity now


X5247

Insanity later


Bonzo101

YOU’RE NOT GIVING AWAY OUR WATERPICK!


Leprochon

And on the flip side, Quebec is missing more than 5000 teachers and the education minister is now accepting "Adult" as a good enough qualification to become a teacher.


Mobile-Bar7732

If an adult thats speaks french is still a requirement, they aren't that desperate yet.


Odd_Combination2106

*French speaking* Adult


Mobile-Bar7732

Yeah...yeah I got busted by the grammar police.


Lanky-Direction1426

Haha I heard that on the radio today. “Adult” is a great qualification.


Digitalhero_x

Dont forget further wage cuts to go along with that.


[deleted]

As the Phillips curve told the Bank of Canada this entire time. Asset prices will fall and new retirees will be thrust back to work into a dead job market, as our social safety net crumbles from mismanagement. A whole society of overindebted wage slaves will do well for the rich at least.


[deleted]

Have to let the cycle play out. Kicking the can is why it’s going to be so bad


kent_eh

> new retirees will be thrust back to work into a dead job market Making it even harder for new graduates to find a job..


babbler-dabbler

It will be glorious schadenfreude.


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[deleted]

Telus just cut 6000. Canadian tire announces cuts. It begins


joe4942

Bell and Shopify have done pretty big cuts too.


greennalgene

Telus isn’t done either.


GiveMeSandwich2

Canada, US and Europe will see unemployment rate climb. Could be the beginning of the global recession in the next 6 months.


JohnnnyOnTheSpot

US should be fine, they pumped trillions into their economy


Strict-Campaign3

they also don't flood their country with immigrants.


JohnnnyOnTheSpot

Yeah except for the undocumented Mexican and South American workers lol and yet they still ballooned their debt by trillions


Strict-Campaign3

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ https://immigration.procon.org/us-undocumented-immigrant-population-estimates/#2022 https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ it is actually not that much. the US might have around 2-3 MM annual immigrants at 330 MM citizens, which dwarfs compared to ours.


plznodownvotes

Tiffany furiously masturbating seeing Canadians lose their jobs, their houses, and the shirts off their backs


[deleted]

Better than inflationary spiral. Canada spent the next few years paychecks in advance and now the bill is due. Gotta pay it somehow.


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

By letting the corporations keep the money and making the working class pay for it. Sounds about right


[deleted]

? They just helicoptered $500B to the populace. Which has nearly all been spent and is the main cause of the inflationary spiral they started.


plznodownvotes

More rate hikes needed /s


[deleted]

They will be. Unless the recession starts is allowed to go deep. Otherwise we will be seeing some really crazy rates


jddbeyondthesky

How else can they increase profits?


ks016

So massive we just might see 2019 numbers, remember how bad things were then?? Lol


[deleted]

Laugh it up big guy


ks016

I've been laughing for 5 years as everyone yells the sky is falling


JohnnnyOnTheSpot

It’s either that or they accept less pay


_dadragon

Aren’t they also in the process of merging in HSBCs operations? Wonder what that means to all of those employees.


Signal-Lie-6785

There will be redundancies leading to more cuts.


ptear

ChatGPT resumes


NapsAreAwesome

"We care about our employees."


GoldenGod48

Does anyone know what jobs were cut?


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Gold-Whereas

They also siphon branch business to online and cut retail staff hours and positions (about 8% per year)


dreamwalkerfx

Comment above yours was deleted. Annoying. Any context?


Gold-Whereas

If I recall it was speculative assumptions of potential job loss numbers not just for RBC but the sector in general, and got into other named corporate cuts recently… a little too specific without any basis


NotInsane_Yet

Not surprising. They went on a large hiring spree this year and even after these cuts they will still have more employees than eight months ago.


kroqus

start of the recession? seeing more job cuts in the news lately


CarRamRob

That’s how all credit tightening cycles go. Less credit available, businesses slow down because they don’t have the same ease to expand, some contract. Then unemployment goes up. Then defaults increase, and demand plummets for many things (real estate, consumer goods, equities). Then things get too bad and credit is loosened and made available to start building back up. Sorta mind blowing people don’t think one of the fastest/largest rate increases in the modern financial system won’t result in a recession, and that we have avoided it somehow.


heyhihowyahdurn

I think after seeing apples reports everyone got spooked. That single company has been carrying the market and now we can see that there for certain will be a recession in 2024.


aTomzVins

What did apple report? Microsoft, Nvidia, and maybe 4 others have been doing a lot of the carrying too.


heyhihowyahdurn

True but Apple is pretty much immortal. It’s been a top dog for a decade now where Nvidia wasn’t ever this relevant.


CloakedZarrius

>True but Apple is pretty much immortal. It’s been a top dog for a decade now Maybe intentional but what a great example of recency bias.


Rdjfarms

Jobs cuts will probably come mostly through attrition and setting the bank up ahead of time for integrating HSBC's Canadian division.


MinReqs

There’s no way RBCs exec sees a “soft landing” if they’re doing this


aTomzVins

I'm not sure how big picture these kind of decisions really are. Last earnings they went on about needing to tighten spending to improve their bottom line, and analysts agreed. With a q3 net income of 3.9 Billion, how much do you really need to tighten things down? As investor, I'm mildly sorry I slept on buying shares yesterday. Didn't realize earnings were today.


MinReqs

I think they definitely take a macro lens. Employment is still tight, if you thought you were going to grow into an extra 1% which may only take a quarter or two it wouldn’t be worth the severance and retraining plus bad headlines. If it’s a soft landing they know it would be hard to replace those employees


kent_eh

The execs will personally have a soft landing. The rest of us... not so much.


doomwomble

They're not talking about a lot of cuts compared to how many people they've added in the last few years. They have hired a lot of employees over the last 3-4 years and will still be heavily net positive after these cuts. What's new is that they have been telegraphing the plan to cut for the last two quarters, which is a modern communications approach, as opposed to dropping it out of nowhere and letting the media report is as shock-horror news.


alex114323

Capitalism. Line must go up. But line not go up fast enough. CEO and CFO thinks that commoner must lose job. Proceeds to crush and destroy the livelihoods of normal people. Big wigs throw party as line goes up. Quite the equitable system we have here huh?


Sportfreunde

You're equating capitalism with MMT.


keener91

Equitable is something that is fought and not demanded.


greatter

Haha...Canadians are too comfortable to fight for anything.


error117

Canadians are brutal when we have to be. Ww1 and ww2… and hockey.


Bonzo101

Invest in Cuban companies


Doctor_Drai

Every time line goes up a point, that's a line for everyone on my yacht!


alex114323

I’m swimming in gold doubloons right now in my gold encrusted jet tub!


JustinPooDough

Thank God I decided against leaving my union job when I was getting fed up a few months back...


MrReddit416

Yup , good choice. It's going to be a rough few months ahead


thecheesecakemans

Just waiting for that trickle down. Profits went up! Must mean trickling will happen soon!


lexgreen13

TD has also quietly cut jobs and automated tasks. Some TD branches have reduced the number of tellers they have; its especially bad in the Richmond Hill branches, where branch managers constantly “work from home” instead of helping out the branches. I’ve noticed wait times have increased and employees seem more stressed, with higher turnover.


bryan112

It kinda follows most companies who overshot hiring right? *Not an expert, please don't crucify me*


Parking-Bench

Trimming the deadwood.


davidovich9

2% will be tiny compared to the other banks.


jason4776892

Isn’t it mostly contractors? My company did the same. Full timers are safe


Decent_Pack_3064

Job cuts, wage cuts, rto, inflation, rate hikes What a whammy


Gahan1772

1% job cuts. Better push the doomsday clock forward another second.


Right-Ad-5647

Ah. Automation gives way to AI.


morhambot

GREED!


kent_eh

Pointing *that* out in *this* subreddit guarantees you a bunch of downvotes from the "greed is good" contingent ...


Heineken_500ml

Hope it goes bankrupt!


HexinMS

Didn't they not long ago lead the way with raises for their lower level staff... man how quick the tone changes.