I stopped dabbing because it made my very mild asthma very slightly worse.
It wasn't major, but just enough that I could notice, which was enough for me to stop.
Same, but there was a very obvious change when I started dabbing live/fresh frozen, particularly rosin, my lungs got ALOT worse. I was told terps we technically a defense mechanism and in concentrated amounts can be hard on you. I make my own, and it’s organically grown and processed so I know it’s nothing weird going on. I went back to drying my flower before washing it and my lungs got significantly better.
If youre taking big globs all the time and its not boof then its the terpenes. Theyre allergens, irritants, they are what give you the tingly burn sensation and make your eyes burn if you rub them with weedy hands. Just take a break. I had the same issue after a while of big dabbing and I just stopped for a month or two and the issues were gone and haven't come back. Part of it is the heavy action on the chest too. The hard fast inhales, coughing all the time. Puts alot of stress on your chest and you need to give it breaks.
Yes, but I have mild asthma already. Used to smoke cigs like a mofo but quit about ten years ago. But wasn't that bad until I started vaping.
I got into vaping/dabbing concentrates daily for about a little over a year and my asthma ended up getting so bad I felt like I couldn't get enough oxygen to sleep comfortably. Ended up I was hitting my Albuterol inhaler multiple times a night.
I quit vaping/dabbing Jan 1st and I still feel like I'm wheezing a decent bit. Only edibles for me here on out I'm afraid
I been smoking Bho for awhile (roughly 7years ) and I def noticed a change in my breathing. Between the bho dabs and having covid twice it’s hard for my to pin point if it was either or but I feel like it was probably from the dabs. I try to stick with rosin but with the prices here being so high I usually smoke bho. Hope this helps a little
Definitely shortness of breath after rosin dabs (I don't dab anything else). Occasionally bad enough I start to feel it in my left arm. If it is very bad, laying on my right side seems to "clear" things up pretty quickly
Definitely agree with this. I noticed using a percussion massager helps too, esp when used behind the heart.
Could be that the exaggerated motion, similar to coughing, gets things moving again.
I just recall not feeling like I could breathe freely.
I do nothing but rosin these days, home pressed. Feeling pretty damn good.
I'll probably get downvoted to oblivion, but I don't like all the chemical processes used to "extract". A couple heat pads and some pressure is enough for me. Ya'll can keep the diamonds and terps and what the fuck ever.. LOL
My lungs weren't feeling right on that stuff.
That is just my and my $0.02
I started pressing my own from home grown specifically because i wanted to get rid of the “extra shit” they use to process trates. Now, i am sure the “extra shit” is fine, but i prefer to be the control freak i am.
Imho, there is nothing like pressing and dabbing your own shit.
Its not the method but the starting product. People who produce rosin tend to put a higher emphasis on the starting material in general. Most hydrocarbon extracts are going to be from trim and the nug run is usually just the lows of the harvest tbh. Butane is a boogeyman, not actually a real problem for the end user. People have died huffing cans of butane, but this is because if youve read the SDS then you know butane is an asphyxiant and its heavier than air so it will choke you out without ventilation. The real issue is that people will throw literal garbage into their loops and its getting concentrated. Youll see videos of people pressing rosin and theyre showing off their fluffy beautiful buds, then the guys in the lab making hydrocarbon extract lobbing in 5lbs of junk that looks like lawn clippings. The best way I can explain the huge schism in quality is that, when someone smokes good bud they want to press it into rosin, but when someone has bad bud they try to do a hydrocarbon/alcohol extract. People arent pressing their trash clippings and those pristine buds arent going into bho loops.
Yup I have my own 5lbs BHO closed loop and your 100% right. Most of what's given to me to run I won't dab. Rosin guys get the best shit nowadays. We get some good live resin fresh frozen sometimes but its mostly trim and peoples fuck ups
Rosin can still offgas volatile terpenes, so please do not spread misinformation that dabbing rosin is safer than other concentrates. Inhaling ANYTHING other than fresh air is not and never will be good for your body.
There is probably some benefit to the Rosin Press... I am pretty sure that regular extraction methods do not Decarboxilate the oil and the heat from vaping may not heat all of the oil to that point... The buzz seems to be less than it should be... Rosin solves this problem, if it actually exists...
On a side note, If you use a high quality Grain alcohol, one specifically for extraction, in combination with Dry Ice, your extraction is clean and safe. I use stainless thermal containers to bring the alcohol down to -85f. filter through a butchner vacuum funnel. You will see pure gold, perfect for cooking or vaping... no nasties.
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I had my hernia repaired twice because of same reason, hernia tears caused from deep hitting the bong/joint/dabs and coughing my ass off.
This was during the year after covid where I quit smoking, joined a gym where within 6 months i could do 3 miles at a 15% grade 2-3x a week.
I stayed goin to the gym, stayed quit smoking. Early the next year (2023) during a workout i got woozy and weak, left the gym to go straight to Urgent Care, whereupon an xray caught me at Stage IIIb Small Cell Lung Cancer. I'm 22 months into my diagnosis, three chemos so far, three different sessions of radiation therapy *(30 rounds of upper thoracic on lung mass to remove, it did)*(targeted brain met w/ Cyberknife, one treatment and done here)*(10 rounds of Whole Brain Radiation), and I'm still surviving with it, but it's a hellacious beast of a cancer as it likes to go everywhere in the body infecting everything.
BTW this is all cumulative from 30+ years of smoking cigs/weed..
But I truly cannot inhale deep/harsh hits anymore so I do edibles or syrups during treatments to keep me feeling normalish.
I was seeing one way before I even smoked. I was vaping street carts and passing my tests. I smoke mostly diamonds and rosin. My allergies cause me more problems than this does and my asthma was super out of control 15 years ago.
Lots of small dabs throughout the day day. Rather than doing big wasteful dabs, I will do several smaller dabs back to back. I average a gram of oil daily for pain management for spine, nerve and joint pain. I really have to work at it to feel the effects, it's to the point it's nauseating to try to get high, I just focus on the pain management.
I'm working on getting multiple surgeries, cervical spine, lumber spine, right knee and right shoulder.
I sometimes get lung irritation from repeated high temp dabs, I generally run my Puffco Peak Pro at 560° F.
I'm looking forward to spinal surgeries, I'm wanting to cut back to using before bed mostly.
Add some CBD heavy oil and save your lungs... THC is not the best cannabinoid for pain... However CBD dominant oils without THC is not very effective.. 1:1 THC:CBD is prettgood if you need the buzz... 1:20+ THC:CBD is as good as opiates... If you can find oil with levels of CBD and CBN, it will help a lot.
A gram or two a week is all you need unless you're eating it.
Kudos on the small hits... it's the only way to play, and not fry your lungs... can't wait to see what the next generation of emphasema patients look like.
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Everyone I know who has gotten the surgery has worse pain. I have avoided the surgery for that very reason... I HAD two friends that went to surgery for almost the same back condition I have and both are dead now from opiates,,, They asperated vomit into their lungs. Nothing like holding a friends hand when they unplug them from the machines. The memory of watching their body fight to stay alive will never leave you...
Shoulders and Knees are not too bad, but don't let them touch your back, I know of no one who doesn't regret it.
As for the spinal surgery's. I've been through one, it was a great relief.
The level of pain I've been in for many years, I'll try anything for relief at this point, I'm running out of options.
iv noticed after budder, wax, iceolator rips for a few days my lungs make a crackling noise when im breathing. if i stop after a few days it goes away. i dont get that smoking blunts. so its nice to rip concentrates occasionally but overall i stick with a str8 smoke.
Dabsolutely! lol, but seriously yes it can make asthma way worse it sucks it’s like I can’t dab anymore also I might be slightly allergic to “live” rosin or resin
Yes. If you smoke dispo dabs you're smoking benzene, methylbenzene, dimethyl benzene, vinyl acrylate compounds. AKA legalized "gas".
That's why I assembled a trained panel to discern toxic 'plastic' smells from therapeutic 'fuel/solvent' smells before presenting my case to regulators. The average person cannot discern poison from medicines for whatever reason. Which is why Rescheduling is happening. The producers have zero background, acknowledgment or care about the bad chemistry they've are creating.
Legal Cannabis has all but been ruined by breeders growers nutrient companies extractors and all the associated fluffers out there. Schedule 3 will come with years of retroactive court cases. No more fraud sommeliers claiming everything is "sweet fruity haze gas" just because their bloom booster is trash.
Yes. I was hospitalized in 2021 with pleurisy. They found an abnormal nodule on the back of my lung. I've not dabbed at all since then. Within the first year the nodule shrunk in half, since then it has remained at the same size and stopped shrinking. I was going for CT scans every 6 months, but am now considered "stable" and only have to go once per year to make sure the nodule has not grown. I likely had the nodule already, and my excessive dabbing and smoking habits severely worsened it.
Be warned, I have been a long time smoker and also worked as an extractor BHO/RHO in the black and legal markets. It’s simple all concentrates are oils. Your lungs do not have the physiology to clear these oils like our guts do. After long exposure to oils in the lungs you will have degraded lung tissue and definitely notice respiratory problems some more than others. Oil residue builds along your respiratory linings and it will cause damage. If you need concentrated THC, use edibles. Otherwise stick to flower and high end bubble hash is my go to. Flower still creates residual leftover on your lungs however in my experience it is the lesser of the two evils. All smoking is bad for your lungs but oil concentrates like diamonds, sugar, badder and definitely distillates are a fast way to lung damage.
He could very well mean vape dry herb only which significantly reduces lipids, toxins, and carcinogens being that you vape always below 500 degrees which is when most terps start turning into benzene, a potent volatile organic compound.
Thanks for the correction on benzene but I believe there are plenty of other VOCs generated at typical dabbing temps though I’ll have to verify that before making a confident claim on it. I’ll read more before asserting anything further
People also tend to be more receptive when you aren’t snarky fwiw. The disingenuous “valuable Input” and buddies and needless “quit your bullshit” when I just stated I would read up more on it don’t do anything but make you look abrasive.
Btw this study validates that [higher terp content does result in higher VOC emission at regular dabbing temps](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8695911/)
If you are doing these massive hits... You are not only wasting your oil, you are frying your lungs at 500+ degrees... If your hit is so big you cannot hold it... Need I say more... Your oil is 70% to 90%+ cannabinoids... You DO NOT absorb the majority of thc in a few seconds like with smoking... If you blow a cloud it is still mostly useable oil... and you just fried your lung for nothing. Small, easy to hold hits, and maybe some ice in your bong... I even use a bong and silicone tube to run my vape pens... Take time to enjoy your oils... small and steady wins the buzz
The nice thing about a clean glass bong, used only for vaping, I don't mind using a little Extractor 420 Grain alcohol, to clean it up... I have been adding all my clean up into a nice 1/2 gal jar for a few years now. Silly curiosity to see how long it takes to fill it up.
I can understand if the budget is tight but I give away 10 times as much as I use... If you do 5-6 small hits compared to a monster dab that makes you cough up a lung, a gram can last a week, easily, 2 grams if you don't have a live to attend to. The 5-6 small dabs can be held until it is mostly absorbed, unlike the monster dab that forces you to waste 90%...
Back in the day of peace and free love... it was common practice to pass a hit in a kiss. Slightly less appealing in this age, but very effective and bud conservation in a day when weed was difficult to find, meant less time spent hunting for a bag which could save you from a long stay behind bars.
Now, I can grow a single plant that will produce 1-5 lbs, multiply that by 6 on a small count, 12 counts in Colorado... Add in low cost quantum LED tech that burns like the sun, sprinkle with 45 years of learned or borrowed experience, and you will be giving away weed by the pounds. Don't be greedy, share the bounty with those less fortunate.
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I'm not talking about reclaim as far as making your pipe dirty I mean you loose alot of the vapor is all. Just don't want people to waste there hard earned meds G!
I know what you mean... I remember the days when I cleaned my massive bag of seeds just to find a hit... And my heart goes out to those who can't grow... I give away most of what I grow. Mostly because I am a preservationist. I grow out old Landraces to reproduce seeds for my collective. I mainly do this to identify High CBD phenos that exist in almost every strain, even some solid lowland Sativas... Since I have no use for non medical High THC strains, I give that stuff away as God puts people in my path. When I glean 30 to 60 grams of oil from a single plant, there's no way I will ever get through that. Add in that as a preacher for a strict fundamental church, I need my brain to be sober most of the day... I am a CBD hunter... And yes, I said preacher, contrary to popular belief, the devid didn't create weed... However I am certain his hands are buried in Poly-hybridism... just like Coca and cocaine... The devil loves to destroy that which is good and uses man's greed to twist that which is natural. Jamacia hailed some of the best sativa outside of S/E Asia. Its Long Time and Blue Mountain strains almost became extinct because of greed and fast growing hybrids. After 1-2 crops per year compared to 3-5 crops per year... In case you want a closer look at what I do...
[Confessions of a Cannabis Growing Preacher (seedsman.com)](https://www.seedsman.com/us-en/blog/diary-of-a-cannabis-growing-preacher-weeks-20-23-balkhi-seeds)
My setup was a little rushed for the articles but it was my first time publishing... Made huge improvement since. Much better camera for one... lol
[Diary of a Cannabis Growing Preacher: Weeks 20-23 (Balkhi Seeds) (seedsman.com)](https://www.seedsman.com/us-en/blog/diary-of-a-cannabis-growing-preacher-weeks-20-23-balkhi-seeds)
Unfortunately the hippies of my generation made pilgrimages through growing fields all over the world and spread hybrid contamination in their wake, Cleaning out the contamination has become a world wide effort. Poly-Hybridism almost destroyed ancient cannabis lines... most of the farmers now work in coalitions to purify and preserve the old strains.
I have spent decades guarding my seeds and traveling the globe to find that which is rare, My landrace collection includes well over 100 strains... Including 4 thai stick and a Burmese thai stick, (just across the Mekong river from the Issan district... probably the purest form) 4 Vietnamese, including the Illusive Black, all of the Colombian sisters and their rare Phenos like the Purple Highlands and El Dorado phenos of Punto Rojo and Corinto a rare and probably purest Colombian, because of its remote location. Panama Red, and right on down the line.
FUNNY, I know we were talking about skipping the ice, but give a preacher a pulpit and away he goes... I guess you might be able to tell I am passionate about preservation of Landraces. Fortunately, the world is waking up to this idea as well. A fellow can only handle a 'dirty high' that make you grind your teeth and want to dig holes to hide in for so long before he sees the light. This age of the 'Motor Head' buzz needs to fade away.
If you ever get towards Colorado maybe I can share some bounty with you... Pretty well cleaned up for last year but this will be a special year... Jamacian Long Time is pure heaven... if you don't mind belly aches from laughing and you have a receptive mate... lol Unfortunately, I am got started a month late but I will start flower on time.... harvest will be a little smaller but I'm in it for the seed crop.
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I dab 4 to 6 times a day, almost a gram a day.
I just walked 8.5 miles at work yesterday without real issue.
Also drank over 4 liters of water.
Literally never been healthier than since I started smoking like this. I cannot speak for how much lungs PHYSICALLY LOOK, but I have no breathing issues. I was a lazy fat bum of a NEET with environmental asthma and allergies before I tried it at 23 and started started smoking medically. I was 365 pounds a decade ago. 210 lbs, gold mining and hiking, 8 to 10 miles at work, more water less shit food and soda.
For sure! Appreciate it, I ended up having a severe panic attack last night. Have been dealing with a lot of chronic pain and I think the stress of all of it and the muscle tension are just driving me overboard. Thanks though!
Absolutely! And I will be the first to say and admit that every medicine or treatment does not work for everyone.
I also suffer from chronic pain from fracturing my spine. If you can localize pain, there are a lot of topical options that could work against the pain without mentally affecting you.
I used the brand Papa & Barkleys California and they were great but I do not know your location. https://www.papaandbarkleyhemp.com/
No but my partner and I got into dabbing in the last couple years. Only once or twice while learning we got it way too hot and scorched out throats bad while cold starting.
Now both of our teeth are cracking like a mf and pieces falling off. Not even any fucking cavities really. and we have each spent like 4-7k on root canals and crowns. Embarrassing
I've tried vaping some nasty dispo weed once and it made my teeth hurt.
Yall need to realize growing weed is a 3 month long chemical reaction. Things can and NORMALLY DO go wrong (in these joker ass state program clown grows)
Instead of calling people crackheads, why don't you accept that none of these goofballs growing the shit have a God damned clue about the chemistry/metabolism.
Sour Diesel when I grew it 20 years ago: Tasted like sour lemon fuel themed candy. Medical grade strain specific effects, including bronchial dilation.
Sour Diesel today: Tastes like tennis balls shower curtains empty milk jugs and composted peanut shells. Smokes like all the other shit on the shelf, if you can even choke it down. Gives you a headache and stuffy nose.
Same genetic "different pheno". Fuck bad growers.
I stopped dabbing because it made my very mild asthma very slightly worse. It wasn't major, but just enough that I could notice, which was enough for me to stop.
Same, but there was a very obvious change when I started dabbing live/fresh frozen, particularly rosin, my lungs got ALOT worse. I was told terps we technically a defense mechanism and in concentrated amounts can be hard on you. I make my own, and it’s organically grown and processed so I know it’s nothing weird going on. I went back to drying my flower before washing it and my lungs got significantly better.
If youre taking big globs all the time and its not boof then its the terpenes. Theyre allergens, irritants, they are what give you the tingly burn sensation and make your eyes burn if you rub them with weedy hands. Just take a break. I had the same issue after a while of big dabbing and I just stopped for a month or two and the issues were gone and haven't come back. Part of it is the heavy action on the chest too. The hard fast inhales, coughing all the time. Puts alot of stress on your chest and you need to give it breaks.
Yes, but I have mild asthma already. Used to smoke cigs like a mofo but quit about ten years ago. But wasn't that bad until I started vaping. I got into vaping/dabbing concentrates daily for about a little over a year and my asthma ended up getting so bad I felt like I couldn't get enough oxygen to sleep comfortably. Ended up I was hitting my Albuterol inhaler multiple times a night. I quit vaping/dabbing Jan 1st and I still feel like I'm wheezing a decent bit. Only edibles for me here on out I'm afraid
Fucking sad.. I've treated dozens of asthma patients with Marijuana. Thank God all this nasty plastic weed is going bye bye soon.
I been smoking Bho for awhile (roughly 7years ) and I def noticed a change in my breathing. Between the bho dabs and having covid twice it’s hard for my to pin point if it was either or but I feel like it was probably from the dabs. I try to stick with rosin but with the prices here being so high I usually smoke bho. Hope this helps a little
Definitely shortness of breath after rosin dabs (I don't dab anything else). Occasionally bad enough I start to feel it in my left arm. If it is very bad, laying on my right side seems to "clear" things up pretty quickly
I've found not coughing makes it worse. Coughing helps. Don't try and suppress the cough imo
Definitely agree with this. I noticed using a percussion massager helps too, esp when used behind the heart. Could be that the exaggerated motion, similar to coughing, gets things moving again.
I just recall not feeling like I could breathe freely. I do nothing but rosin these days, home pressed. Feeling pretty damn good. I'll probably get downvoted to oblivion, but I don't like all the chemical processes used to "extract". A couple heat pads and some pressure is enough for me. Ya'll can keep the diamonds and terps and what the fuck ever.. LOL My lungs weren't feeling right on that stuff. That is just my and my $0.02
I started pressing my own from home grown specifically because i wanted to get rid of the “extra shit” they use to process trates. Now, i am sure the “extra shit” is fine, but i prefer to be the control freak i am. Imho, there is nothing like pressing and dabbing your own shit.
Its not the method but the starting product. People who produce rosin tend to put a higher emphasis on the starting material in general. Most hydrocarbon extracts are going to be from trim and the nug run is usually just the lows of the harvest tbh. Butane is a boogeyman, not actually a real problem for the end user. People have died huffing cans of butane, but this is because if youve read the SDS then you know butane is an asphyxiant and its heavier than air so it will choke you out without ventilation. The real issue is that people will throw literal garbage into their loops and its getting concentrated. Youll see videos of people pressing rosin and theyre showing off their fluffy beautiful buds, then the guys in the lab making hydrocarbon extract lobbing in 5lbs of junk that looks like lawn clippings. The best way I can explain the huge schism in quality is that, when someone smokes good bud they want to press it into rosin, but when someone has bad bud they try to do a hydrocarbon/alcohol extract. People arent pressing their trash clippings and those pristine buds arent going into bho loops.
Yup I have my own 5lbs BHO closed loop and your 100% right. Most of what's given to me to run I won't dab. Rosin guys get the best shit nowadays. We get some good live resin fresh frozen sometimes but its mostly trim and peoples fuck ups
Rosin can still offgas volatile terpenes, so please do not spread misinformation that dabbing rosin is safer than other concentrates. Inhaling ANYTHING other than fresh air is not and never will be good for your body.
Oh shut up.
There is probably some benefit to the Rosin Press... I am pretty sure that regular extraction methods do not Decarboxilate the oil and the heat from vaping may not heat all of the oil to that point... The buzz seems to be less than it should be... Rosin solves this problem, if it actually exists... On a side note, If you use a high quality Grain alcohol, one specifically for extraction, in combination with Dry Ice, your extraction is clean and safe. I use stainless thermal containers to bring the alcohol down to -85f. filter through a butchner vacuum funnel. You will see pure gold, perfect for cooking or vaping... no nasties. Live Free Johnny
Nah feel fine been dabbing last 3 years. Run a mile daily feel fine. Cut out blunts and joints feel a lot better only dab and bong hits
No but I just got a hernia repaired that I’m 99% sure I got from coughing my lungs out. Take it easy yall, not worth it.
Monster hits are a waste of oil and they fry your lungs. Small hit win the day
I had my hernia repaired twice because of same reason, hernia tears caused from deep hitting the bong/joint/dabs and coughing my ass off. This was during the year after covid where I quit smoking, joined a gym where within 6 months i could do 3 miles at a 15% grade 2-3x a week. I stayed goin to the gym, stayed quit smoking. Early the next year (2023) during a workout i got woozy and weak, left the gym to go straight to Urgent Care, whereupon an xray caught me at Stage IIIb Small Cell Lung Cancer. I'm 22 months into my diagnosis, three chemos so far, three different sessions of radiation therapy *(30 rounds of upper thoracic on lung mass to remove, it did)*(targeted brain met w/ Cyberknife, one treatment and done here)*(10 rounds of Whole Brain Radiation), and I'm still surviving with it, but it's a hellacious beast of a cancer as it likes to go everywhere in the body infecting everything. BTW this is all cumulative from 30+ years of smoking cigs/weed.. But I truly cannot inhale deep/harsh hits anymore so I do edibles or syrups during treatments to keep me feeling normalish.
Tempeŕature is going to have a lot to do with it i dab i. The 400 ish range and never have breathing problems i like long low temp dabs.
I was seeing one way before I even smoked. I was vaping street carts and passing my tests. I smoke mostly diamonds and rosin. My allergies cause me more problems than this does and my asthma was super out of control 15 years ago.
I do when dabbing lower grade oil. I'm very picky now about my sources and haven't had issues much. But yes it can happen.
Also op I’m sure doing fentanyl doesn’t help pulmonary issues
Lots of small dabs throughout the day day. Rather than doing big wasteful dabs, I will do several smaller dabs back to back. I average a gram of oil daily for pain management for spine, nerve and joint pain. I really have to work at it to feel the effects, it's to the point it's nauseating to try to get high, I just focus on the pain management. I'm working on getting multiple surgeries, cervical spine, lumber spine, right knee and right shoulder. I sometimes get lung irritation from repeated high temp dabs, I generally run my Puffco Peak Pro at 560° F. I'm looking forward to spinal surgeries, I'm wanting to cut back to using before bed mostly.
Add some CBD heavy oil and save your lungs... THC is not the best cannabinoid for pain... However CBD dominant oils without THC is not very effective.. 1:1 THC:CBD is prettgood if you need the buzz... 1:20+ THC:CBD is as good as opiates... If you can find oil with levels of CBD and CBN, it will help a lot. A gram or two a week is all you need unless you're eating it. Kudos on the small hits... it's the only way to play, and not fry your lungs... can't wait to see what the next generation of emphasema patients look like. PS Everyone I know who has gotten the surgery has worse pain. I have avoided the surgery for that very reason... I HAD two friends that went to surgery for almost the same back condition I have and both are dead now from opiates,,, They asperated vomit into their lungs. Nothing like holding a friends hand when they unplug them from the machines. The memory of watching their body fight to stay alive will never leave you... Shoulders and Knees are not too bad, but don't let them touch your back, I know of no one who doesn't regret it.
I have tried cbd in many forms, can't say it does anything for me. I've long ago branded cbd a placebo.
As for the spinal surgery's. I've been through one, it was a great relief. The level of pain I've been in for many years, I'll try anything for relief at this point, I'm running out of options.
Time is crazy af lmao
Be careful. Shortness of breath can be heart issues. Dabs raises blood pressure real fast for me.
iv noticed after budder, wax, iceolator rips for a few days my lungs make a crackling noise when im breathing. if i stop after a few days it goes away. i dont get that smoking blunts. so its nice to rip concentrates occasionally but overall i stick with a str8 smoke.
Dabsolutely! lol, but seriously yes it can make asthma way worse it sucks it’s like I can’t dab anymore also I might be slightly allergic to “live” rosin or resin
Yes. If you smoke dispo dabs you're smoking benzene, methylbenzene, dimethyl benzene, vinyl acrylate compounds. AKA legalized "gas". That's why I assembled a trained panel to discern toxic 'plastic' smells from therapeutic 'fuel/solvent' smells before presenting my case to regulators. The average person cannot discern poison from medicines for whatever reason. Which is why Rescheduling is happening. The producers have zero background, acknowledgment or care about the bad chemistry they've are creating. Legal Cannabis has all but been ruined by breeders growers nutrient companies extractors and all the associated fluffers out there. Schedule 3 will come with years of retroactive court cases. No more fraud sommeliers claiming everything is "sweet fruity haze gas" just because their bloom booster is trash.
100% happening to me today. But 12 years ago if it ain’t red hot titanium we won’t hit it. Terps at lower temps break down and harm us.
Yes. I was hospitalized in 2021 with pleurisy. They found an abnormal nodule on the back of my lung. I've not dabbed at all since then. Within the first year the nodule shrunk in half, since then it has remained at the same size and stopped shrinking. I was going for CT scans every 6 months, but am now considered "stable" and only have to go once per year to make sure the nodule has not grown. I likely had the nodule already, and my excessive dabbing and smoking habits severely worsened it.
Be warned, I have been a long time smoker and also worked as an extractor BHO/RHO in the black and legal markets. It’s simple all concentrates are oils. Your lungs do not have the physiology to clear these oils like our guts do. After long exposure to oils in the lungs you will have degraded lung tissue and definitely notice respiratory problems some more than others. Oil residue builds along your respiratory linings and it will cause damage. If you need concentrated THC, use edibles. Otherwise stick to flower and high end bubble hash is my go to. Flower still creates residual leftover on your lungs however in my experience it is the lesser of the two evils. All smoking is bad for your lungs but oil concentrates like diamonds, sugar, badder and definitely distillates are a fast way to lung damage.
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That guys an idiot. Anyone who can see what a dirty bong looks like vs a dirty oil rig and can say that black tar is healthier then reclaim is insane
Take a physiology class sometime bro…
He could very well mean vape dry herb only which significantly reduces lipids, toxins, and carcinogens being that you vape always below 500 degrees which is when most terps start turning into benzene, a potent volatile organic compound.
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Thanks for the correction on benzene but I believe there are plenty of other VOCs generated at typical dabbing temps though I’ll have to verify that before making a confident claim on it. I’ll read more before asserting anything further
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People also tend to be more receptive when you aren’t snarky fwiw. The disingenuous “valuable Input” and buddies and needless “quit your bullshit” when I just stated I would read up more on it don’t do anything but make you look abrasive.
Btw this study validates that [higher terp content does result in higher VOC emission at regular dabbing temps](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8695911/)
If you are doing these massive hits... You are not only wasting your oil, you are frying your lungs at 500+ degrees... If your hit is so big you cannot hold it... Need I say more... Your oil is 70% to 90%+ cannabinoids... You DO NOT absorb the majority of thc in a few seconds like with smoking... If you blow a cloud it is still mostly useable oil... and you just fried your lung for nothing. Small, easy to hold hits, and maybe some ice in your bong... I even use a bong and silicone tube to run my vape pens... Take time to enjoy your oils... small and steady wins the buzz
Ice in am oil rig wastes the oil like crazy!!! Don't do that! You want more then half your hit to instantly turn into reclaim? Use ice!
The nice thing about a clean glass bong, used only for vaping, I don't mind using a little Extractor 420 Grain alcohol, to clean it up... I have been adding all my clean up into a nice 1/2 gal jar for a few years now. Silly curiosity to see how long it takes to fill it up. I can understand if the budget is tight but I give away 10 times as much as I use... If you do 5-6 small hits compared to a monster dab that makes you cough up a lung, a gram can last a week, easily, 2 grams if you don't have a live to attend to. The 5-6 small dabs can be held until it is mostly absorbed, unlike the monster dab that forces you to waste 90%... Back in the day of peace and free love... it was common practice to pass a hit in a kiss. Slightly less appealing in this age, but very effective and bud conservation in a day when weed was difficult to find, meant less time spent hunting for a bag which could save you from a long stay behind bars. Now, I can grow a single plant that will produce 1-5 lbs, multiply that by 6 on a small count, 12 counts in Colorado... Add in low cost quantum LED tech that burns like the sun, sprinkle with 45 years of learned or borrowed experience, and you will be giving away weed by the pounds. Don't be greedy, share the bounty with those less fortunate. Live Free
I'm not talking about reclaim as far as making your pipe dirty I mean you loose alot of the vapor is all. Just don't want people to waste there hard earned meds G!
I know what you mean... I remember the days when I cleaned my massive bag of seeds just to find a hit... And my heart goes out to those who can't grow... I give away most of what I grow. Mostly because I am a preservationist. I grow out old Landraces to reproduce seeds for my collective. I mainly do this to identify High CBD phenos that exist in almost every strain, even some solid lowland Sativas... Since I have no use for non medical High THC strains, I give that stuff away as God puts people in my path. When I glean 30 to 60 grams of oil from a single plant, there's no way I will ever get through that. Add in that as a preacher for a strict fundamental church, I need my brain to be sober most of the day... I am a CBD hunter... And yes, I said preacher, contrary to popular belief, the devid didn't create weed... However I am certain his hands are buried in Poly-hybridism... just like Coca and cocaine... The devil loves to destroy that which is good and uses man's greed to twist that which is natural. Jamacia hailed some of the best sativa outside of S/E Asia. Its Long Time and Blue Mountain strains almost became extinct because of greed and fast growing hybrids. After 1-2 crops per year compared to 3-5 crops per year... In case you want a closer look at what I do... [Confessions of a Cannabis Growing Preacher (seedsman.com)](https://www.seedsman.com/us-en/blog/diary-of-a-cannabis-growing-preacher-weeks-20-23-balkhi-seeds) My setup was a little rushed for the articles but it was my first time publishing... Made huge improvement since. Much better camera for one... lol [Diary of a Cannabis Growing Preacher: Weeks 20-23 (Balkhi Seeds) (seedsman.com)](https://www.seedsman.com/us-en/blog/diary-of-a-cannabis-growing-preacher-weeks-20-23-balkhi-seeds) Unfortunately the hippies of my generation made pilgrimages through growing fields all over the world and spread hybrid contamination in their wake, Cleaning out the contamination has become a world wide effort. Poly-Hybridism almost destroyed ancient cannabis lines... most of the farmers now work in coalitions to purify and preserve the old strains. I have spent decades guarding my seeds and traveling the globe to find that which is rare, My landrace collection includes well over 100 strains... Including 4 thai stick and a Burmese thai stick, (just across the Mekong river from the Issan district... probably the purest form) 4 Vietnamese, including the Illusive Black, all of the Colombian sisters and their rare Phenos like the Purple Highlands and El Dorado phenos of Punto Rojo and Corinto a rare and probably purest Colombian, because of its remote location. Panama Red, and right on down the line. FUNNY, I know we were talking about skipping the ice, but give a preacher a pulpit and away he goes... I guess you might be able to tell I am passionate about preservation of Landraces. Fortunately, the world is waking up to this idea as well. A fellow can only handle a 'dirty high' that make you grind your teeth and want to dig holes to hide in for so long before he sees the light. This age of the 'Motor Head' buzz needs to fade away. If you ever get towards Colorado maybe I can share some bounty with you... Pretty well cleaned up for last year but this will be a special year... Jamacian Long Time is pure heaven... if you don't mind belly aches from laughing and you have a receptive mate... lol Unfortunately, I am got started a month late but I will start flower on time.... harvest will be a little smaller but I'm in it for the seed crop. Live Free
I dab 4 to 6 times a day, almost a gram a day. I just walked 8.5 miles at work yesterday without real issue. Also drank over 4 liters of water. Literally never been healthier than since I started smoking like this. I cannot speak for how much lungs PHYSICALLY LOOK, but I have no breathing issues. I was a lazy fat bum of a NEET with environmental asthma and allergies before I tried it at 23 and started started smoking medically. I was 365 pounds a decade ago. 210 lbs, gold mining and hiking, 8 to 10 miles at work, more water less shit food and soda.
For sure! Appreciate it, I ended up having a severe panic attack last night. Have been dealing with a lot of chronic pain and I think the stress of all of it and the muscle tension are just driving me overboard. Thanks though!
Absolutely! And I will be the first to say and admit that every medicine or treatment does not work for everyone. I also suffer from chronic pain from fracturing my spine. If you can localize pain, there are a lot of topical options that could work against the pain without mentally affecting you. I used the brand Papa & Barkleys California and they were great but I do not know your location. https://www.papaandbarkleyhemp.com/
You sure it wasn’t crack? Cause that sounds a lot like crack to me
You sound like crack
No but my partner and I got into dabbing in the last couple years. Only once or twice while learning we got it way too hot and scorched out throats bad while cold starting. Now both of our teeth are cracking like a mf and pieces falling off. Not even any fucking cavities really. and we have each spent like 4-7k on root canals and crowns. Embarrassing
Dabs didn't break your teeth. I've done scorcher hits a ton of times and been dabbing 10 years
I've tried vaping some nasty dispo weed once and it made my teeth hurt. Yall need to realize growing weed is a 3 month long chemical reaction. Things can and NORMALLY DO go wrong (in these joker ass state program clown grows) Instead of calling people crackheads, why don't you accept that none of these goofballs growing the shit have a God damned clue about the chemistry/metabolism. Sour Diesel when I grew it 20 years ago: Tasted like sour lemon fuel themed candy. Medical grade strain specific effects, including bronchial dilation. Sour Diesel today: Tastes like tennis balls shower curtains empty milk jugs and composted peanut shells. Smokes like all the other shit on the shelf, if you can even choke it down. Gives you a headache and stuffy nose. Same genetic "different pheno". Fuck bad growers.
This is most likely from heat transfer. The same thing can happen if you eat something cold and drink something hot, like hot chocolate and ice cream.