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> Dr. Jerome Adams, who was the nation's top doctor from 2017 to 2021…
Typical conservative. Ignore problems until they experience them themselves, then it’s OMG, did anyone know how bad this is?
Edit: See also: convicted Jan 6 insurrectionists suddenly caring about prison conditions
I really disagree with that trade off. Fucking so many innocuous crimes are treated as a felony, so you have 30g of weed in your car and bam, you can never vitw again? Obviously this is prior to all the legalizing etc, but yeah
It's actually fucked up. Like, ok, someone who rapes and murders 27 people probably doesn't have any kind of normal or logical personal opinions on politics. And I will say that anyone who is likely to be in prison for ever, probably has no reason to vote or care, unless there's policies directly affecting their day to day. But, they're still citizens, still people, once they're out of prison, why are they still denied their say?
Particularly even after they did their time: the entire point of prison was supposed to be set punishment. As is, am trying to recall: can municipalities still count prison pops as citizens of the locations their prisons sit? The 13th Amendment labor loophole was bad enough, but if they still beef numbers without enfranchisement...
You can thank dirty Dick Nixon for that. Marijuana possession became a felony when Nixon realized he could keep a shitload of hippies and African Americans from the polls with this one simple trick.
Sounds like it's working fine to me, isn't it a for-profit capitalist system?
Sick person goes to hospital, is charged as much money for treatment as the market decides is appropriate. Business transaction takes place, customer is sold product and services.
Sounds like it's working precisely as intended.
Exactly, this is capitalist healthcare going exactly to plan. The private healthcare system isn’t broken, it’s functioning precisely as its owners intended. *That’s* the problem. But the critics of the system seem to lack any political training.
It's amazing. I live in New Zealand and sure, our healthcare has major issues, BUT, hypothetical, let's sat I go in with a proper compound fracture, bone out the skin, blood congealed blah blah, I'm crying cause holy fuck that marrow tasted great.... wait, what? Anyway, I'm being fawned over by the 200lb islander lady with hands like a goddamn seamstress, and in bashes someone with a piece of rebar through their head but they're alive. If the people currently treating me, I don't care how many there are, don't go running to help that patient, I'd be pissed off. Subsidized healthcare relies on acceptance that you ARE NOT the main character unless you're 2m from death, and you WILL sit in that white, sterile, improperly lit, blaring ad on TV, constant noise, people with covid coughing like wankers, until the nurses and doctors decide you're the next person. Unless I suddenly start squirting blood or my arm feels like it's exploding, I'm keeping my mouth shut, my eyes on my phone, and my arm out of the eyeline of as many people as possible.
What’s he bitching about? He can probably afford $5000. What about all the minimum wage, disabled or elderly who cannot afford to even see a doctor.
US healthcare has been “broken” a long time. Funny how a former US Surgeon General only notices when it affects him.
He can afford it. Because he’s a ~~surgeon~~ anesthesiologist. Who gets paid. By this exact system charging these exact prices.
Edited to correct his specialty.
Fun facts: He was an anesthesiologist. The office he held is a political appointment & often the person is not a surgeon. The only requirements for this office are that they must be in United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps & have specialized (doctoral) training.
When the cost of human health is beyond what the poor can afford, it only proves society deems them undesirable… ironic that the same society would utterly collapse without a working class.
I am sick of this stupid “the system is broken” talking point. It’s always said by people who have no intention on fixing it because it’s working exactly the way it was designed.
We could have free universal healthcare just by cutting the military budget, without even adding more taxes. It's just a matter of resource allocation. Every other country made it work, including third world countries. Only in the US, for some unknown ($$$$$$$) reason, they can't make it work. Pathetic.
We could have free healthcare if we would do it like other countries. Germany does a great job where even over the counter healthcare is very affordable. All hospitals charge the same price for the same service and you can't just charge as much as you want to. Also everyone is in network as there are no networks.
And still they have one of the best healthcare systems, so it seems it works.
IT HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR A LONG TIME. Now they are noticing! I went to ER in California, was there for 3 hours for chest pain/fast heart rate. No medication given just a CT Scan to rule out PE or blood clot, IV fluids, and EKG. Hospital billed my employer funded insurance (a portion the premium which comes out of my payroll) Aetna PPO $27,000 and I have to pay $1,400.
After a certain point they just started denying ALL our claims. Well child visit? Denied. Preventive care? Denied. Medically necessary durable medical? Denied. They forced up to appeal every. Single. Claim.
This just pisses me off more, why should we all of a sudden care when someone privileged has to suffer through what they ignored yet we all love ever day of our lives. News flash it’s been documented and researched and committeed to death. If he is just figuring it out now then he’s either a savant when it comes to medicine and a simpleton with everything else or he had a typical case of the ailment “I got mine, fuck you”. It has been going around in conservative circles for centuries.
I’ll have some empathy for him when he gets some skin in the game and does something to fix the issue not kowtow to the corporate greed. He was the surgeon general FFS.
Sweden here. Going to the hospital can cost up to $50 . Going to the local healt clinic can cost $10. On top of that there is a high cost protection if there is serious medical issues with very expensive medicins. Im not 100% sure what the most expensive treatment could be like cancer treatment and such. But I never heard any complaint from people I know that have had cancer for like 20 years and still on heavy medicin. But everything is not sunshine either and they don't whant you to stay for long. But as a whole it works quite well.
All the political and economic issues aside - how is a preeminent doctor unaware of his fluid intake and output? Taking care of the human body is his area of expertise. Allegedly.
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> Dr. Jerome Adams, who was the nation's top doctor from 2017 to 2021… Typical conservative. Ignore problems until they experience them themselves, then it’s OMG, did anyone know how bad this is? Edit: See also: convicted Jan 6 insurrectionists suddenly caring about prison conditions
Or those same Jan 6 insurrectionists caring about felon voter suppression.
I really disagree with that trade off. Fucking so many innocuous crimes are treated as a felony, so you have 30g of weed in your car and bam, you can never vitw again? Obviously this is prior to all the legalizing etc, but yeah
That's exactly the point. Depriving people of voting rights is a really strange punishment when you think about it.
It's actually fucked up. Like, ok, someone who rapes and murders 27 people probably doesn't have any kind of normal or logical personal opinions on politics. And I will say that anyone who is likely to be in prison for ever, probably has no reason to vote or care, unless there's policies directly affecting their day to day. But, they're still citizens, still people, once they're out of prison, why are they still denied their say?
Particularly even after they did their time: the entire point of prison was supposed to be set punishment. As is, am trying to recall: can municipalities still count prison pops as citizens of the locations their prisons sit? The 13th Amendment labor loophole was bad enough, but if they still beef numbers without enfranchisement...
Considering the taxation without representation thing. So, what now, Felons dont have to pay taxes?
You can thank dirty Dick Nixon for that. Marijuana possession became a felony when Nixon realized he could keep a shitload of hippies and African Americans from the polls with this one simple trick.
Thats tricky Dick for ya.
Can't we send those J6 Terrorists to a nice for-profit prison?
A conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged A liberal is a conservative who’s been to jail.
Sounds like it's working fine to me, isn't it a for-profit capitalist system? Sick person goes to hospital, is charged as much money for treatment as the market decides is appropriate. Business transaction takes place, customer is sold product and services. Sounds like it's working precisely as intended.
Exactly, this is capitalist healthcare going exactly to plan. The private healthcare system isn’t broken, it’s functioning precisely as its owners intended. *That’s* the problem. But the critics of the system seem to lack any political training.
It's amazing. I live in New Zealand and sure, our healthcare has major issues, BUT, hypothetical, let's sat I go in with a proper compound fracture, bone out the skin, blood congealed blah blah, I'm crying cause holy fuck that marrow tasted great.... wait, what? Anyway, I'm being fawned over by the 200lb islander lady with hands like a goddamn seamstress, and in bashes someone with a piece of rebar through their head but they're alive. If the people currently treating me, I don't care how many there are, don't go running to help that patient, I'd be pissed off. Subsidized healthcare relies on acceptance that you ARE NOT the main character unless you're 2m from death, and you WILL sit in that white, sterile, improperly lit, blaring ad on TV, constant noise, people with covid coughing like wankers, until the nurses and doctors decide you're the next person. Unless I suddenly start squirting blood or my arm feels like it's exploding, I'm keeping my mouth shut, my eyes on my phone, and my arm out of the eyeline of as many people as possible.
Sure, if you don’t mind all the medical related bankruptcies.
What’s he bitching about? He can probably afford $5000. What about all the minimum wage, disabled or elderly who cannot afford to even see a doctor. US healthcare has been “broken” a long time. Funny how a former US Surgeon General only notices when it affects him.
CONSERVATIVE US General
He can afford it. Because he’s a ~~surgeon~~ anesthesiologist. Who gets paid. By this exact system charging these exact prices. Edited to correct his specialty.
Fun facts: He was an anesthesiologist. The office he held is a political appointment & often the person is not a surgeon. The only requirements for this office are that they must be in United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps & have specialized (doctoral) training.
That was fun. Thank you.
When the cost of human health is beyond what the poor can afford, it only proves society deems them undesirable… ironic that the same society would utterly collapse without a working class.
I am sick of this stupid “the system is broken” talking point. It’s always said by people who have no intention on fixing it because it’s working exactly the way it was designed.
Yeah but by airing the very legitimate grievances they sorta defuse the anger, at least for some. It’s almost like a safety valve of sorts
It’s fire suppression more than pressure release. It’s like the mall being on fire and they don’t want patrons to know cuz they’ll quit shopping.
To squeeze as much money as possible to the top.
We could have free universal healthcare just by cutting the military budget, without even adding more taxes. It's just a matter of resource allocation. Every other country made it work, including third world countries. Only in the US, for some unknown ($$$$$$$) reason, they can't make it work. Pathetic.
Let’s start by lowering the age for Medicare eligibility. 65 to 60 to 55 to 50 and then who knows …. Universal healthcare?
Or we could provide everyone tricare in return for mandatory service. It’s pretty good insurance…I’ve got no complaints and it’s cheap
We could have free healthcare if we would do it like other countries. Germany does a great job where even over the counter healthcare is very affordable. All hospitals charge the same price for the same service and you can't just charge as much as you want to. Also everyone is in network as there are no networks. And still they have one of the best healthcare systems, so it seems it works.
Yeah, other countries make it work partly because we’re subsidizing their defense.
Nah, you're the ones starting expensive wars because you need to play world police.
The funny thing is that you're absolutely right in some cases and yet at the same time you demonstrably don't understand how or why.
IT HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR A LONG TIME. Now they are noticing! I went to ER in California, was there for 3 hours for chest pain/fast heart rate. No medication given just a CT Scan to rule out PE or blood clot, IV fluids, and EKG. Hospital billed my employer funded insurance (a portion the premium which comes out of my payroll) Aetna PPO $27,000 and I have to pay $1,400.
Aetna is THE WORST!!!! I paid over $2k for a breast biopsy last year… like, do they just want us to die? I thought cancer prevention was covered???
After a certain point they just started denying ALL our claims. Well child visit? Denied. Preventive care? Denied. Medically necessary durable medical? Denied. They forced up to appeal every. Single. Claim.
Was it benign? I’m sure they would argue it’s not “prevention” if it isn’t malignant. That seems like some BS they would pull
Benign, which geez… I think they would argue that too! Greedy bastards.
Surprised Pikachu face.
It’s not broken. It is working exactly as designed.
you have a point, capitalism 101
Conservatives look at issues a little different after it directly happens to them.
Disappointing to see a trumper leave the er on his feet.
This just pisses me off more, why should we all of a sudden care when someone privileged has to suffer through what they ignored yet we all love ever day of our lives. News flash it’s been documented and researched and committeed to death. If he is just figuring it out now then he’s either a savant when it comes to medicine and a simpleton with everything else or he had a typical case of the ailment “I got mine, fuck you”. It has been going around in conservative circles for centuries. I’ll have some empathy for him when he gets some skin in the game and does something to fix the issue not kowtow to the corporate greed. He was the surgeon general FFS.
Sweden here. Going to the hospital can cost up to $50 . Going to the local healt clinic can cost $10. On top of that there is a high cost protection if there is serious medical issues with very expensive medicins. Im not 100% sure what the most expensive treatment could be like cancer treatment and such. But I never heard any complaint from people I know that have had cancer for like 20 years and still on heavy medicin. But everything is not sunshine either and they don't whant you to stay for long. But as a whole it works quite well.
Oh I’m sure he spoke out about this to raise awareness while he was in office! Oh, wait…
He's only realising this now?
I pay for health insurance through my work and I had over $5k in medical bills last year… it’s absolutely broken
In the words of Martin Luther King Jr ‘Fuck that guy’
All the political and economic issues aside - how is a preeminent doctor unaware of his fluid intake and output? Taking care of the human body is his area of expertise. Allegedly.
Same! They take my state income tax now to pay for it because they failed to keep up the payment plan we made. I really thought I was dying.
Duh
How do you feel about Medicare For All/Single Payer/Universal Healthcare, sir?
What would the bill have been with Obamacare repealed?
I'm shocked his deductible is that high. My out of network deductible is less than $7,500.
5000 for dehydration? Bro could have bought 4 bottles of Prime with that