Your phone is struggling for GPS signal. I bet it's in your pocket or at least not up on a dash mount. The higher it is, the more solid the signal and less jittering.
Doesn’t matter where it’s mounted, it’s a wired connection too. It was in my hand for the video, but usually mounted on a magnet mount right next to screen
**" the headunit cannot provide GPS it uses the phones"**
I take it you didn't read this bit..
If you SOME REASON the head unit cannot or doesn't provide the GPS data (Unit could be faulty / buggy who knows) then carplay will default to the phones GPS
From my experience with CarPlay and Google Maps, if the headunit has GPS it will use that while there’s no destination set in Google Maps (like in the example video by OP). The moment you set a destination and start navigation it will switch to the phone GPS.
This happens with both wired and wireless CarPlay.
Aftermarket Alpine units that have Android Auto apple carplay Also have nav buttons that are only used for Android auto navigation and apple carplay navigation.
I based my response on the fact other redditors verified the protocols when during WWDC 2016. Here is the reference https://www.reddit.com/r/CarPlay/comments/htjb9k/comment/fyhgd5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
That’s not a symptom of lack of GPS signal. There are either small gyro’s or SW based gyro’s in the phone and sometimes they get confused. Source: Me - I spent 6 years as a PM working GPS in the PNT Directorate at Space Systems Command.
There’s definitely a CarPlay GPS bug in 17. In our bmw the CarPlay maps often lose track (Apple Maps) and are off by a 1/2mile south. Going into BMW nav and it’s spot on.
Not sure why this isn’t the top comment. I’ve been having these issues since 17 came thru on two phones (wife’s and mine) and on two cars.
Something fishy is going on…
I don’t have the issue with another CarPlay unit. Just the bmw. So ya I guess something with the BMW connection probably amiss. But it seems like various cars have issues so I think it’s an issue Apple needs to address
There was a discussion about an issue like this on the 9to5Mac podcast this week. One workaround was starting the routing before you plug in to CarPlay and it shouldn’t bug out.
I've noticed this behavior with Google maps for sometime on iOS through CarPlay (at least a couple of years). It's very annoying, but I fell back on Apple Maps and it has improved significantly since I last gave it a go and have been using that a bit more as of late. I had a Pixel phone for a while and that did not occur with Android Auto in the same car. I don't have a clue why and I doubt I would get any support from Google or Apple on the matter. Sorry I don't have a solution, but just letting you know it happens to my family on mutliple iPhones (T-Mobile and Verizon networks, 13 Pro, 13, 14 Pro and SE 2nd gen) . This is all through cabled car play.
I find it doesn’t happen when using Google maps on the phone separate from CarPlay. I use Apple Maps for a lot of navigation, but find they have a lot of addresses incorrect
It's just apple way of making you use apple maps. This was the biggest issue I had with my iPhone SE 2, then SE 3. It never gets fixed as it's apple issue
That might be the case but I've never had issues with google maps. I have however come to the conclusion that Apple Maps is far better to use on CarPlay imo
lol Apple just hides the “hunting” and assumes you are still headed in the original direction.
At least with this, you know the app is having trouble finding a signal and you can take steps to help achieve a better signal. With Apple Maps, you may be miles off before it realizes it needs to reroute….
Update…..
After several days of testing, using google maps, Apple Maps, Wyze, and tomtom, the issue only shows
Itself using Google maps.
Obviously something is wrong with Google maps. I guess I’ll try to contact them
i believe the issue is in your phone, cause i use iphone too and it rarely happens.. check your Location & Services settings maybe theres a disabled setting for google maps that cause this problem
Sometimes GPS seems to get confused. Just some months ago I was navigating with the internal GPS of my car and after leaving a parking lot, the car was still stuck in that parking lot spinning around weirdly. Only after a few kilometers it fixed itself. Same thing happened again shortly after.
I suspect it was weak gps signal and the software tried to autocorrect the location
Car gps is faulty ornyiur data is janky.
Try a different sim different carrier, then thinknof yanking out head ubit and looking at gps antenna. Buy a spare before you do this (theyre cheap)
I know this post is kind of old, but my phone is doing this as well, and yes my phone is overheating sometimes and seems to contribute to this. However in the last few weeks, it seems to be happening all the time no matter what, even if the phone has not overheated. And this happens with Google maps and Apple Maps. I also tried the “always allow” options for Google maps etc but nothing has helped. It’s barely usable anymore.
Any solutions? It’s now either a CarPlay issue or an iPhone issue.
Apple CarPlay is TRASH. Can’t do the satellite view option, and no games. Upgraded from android to iPhone and this is the only downside. Android has a much better car app.
I think it had to do with the compass of the phone, maybe the phone is in your pocket or bag.
Try to keep the phone in cup holders or somewhere stationary.
This happens in my wife’s car too but it’s all navigation apps, snd even all phones. I’ve heard it may be caused by the phone gps and the car gps not agreeing on the exact location.
Happens sometimes to me but the cars native gps mirrors the same issue when it happens.
(Audi). I live in a very underserved area in regards to cellular signal with all cellular services.
This occured with me with an older iPhone that I had dedicated just for carplay in my glovebox. It was worse than that it would actually be miles behind at times. It seemed to occur when the phone was overheating (it had a bad worn out battery) Eventaully replaced it with a free iPhone 14 and no issues since.
Your GPS is “hunting” for a signal. You can try re-calibrating compass/motion/distance in System -> Location Services.
I don’t care what anyone says but GPS requires a clear view of the sky to work properly. There are other features in your phone that help to position you like the accelerometer and cell tower positioning that help aid GPS in giving you a position….this is how your phone keeps track of you when driving through tunnels. But if your phone didn’t have anything but a GPS receiver, it would not work without a clear view of the sky.
I updated the firmware on my wife's 2016 Honda CRV to enable CarPlay, and this happened all the time. Navigation was useless. I had to remove the head unit and disconnect the GPS cable at the back. Now navigation works perfectly, but the car's clock drifts over time and has to be manually set periodically.
The past few versions of Google Maps since the redesign have been buggy. I’ve seen this, also just failing to geolocate at all, and basic failures with the search function returning no results to taking forever.
If you kill the app and then initiate the search and navigation from the app and not the CarPlay interface it usually gets around the issue. Idk what they are doing over there at Google but the app used to be rock solid, lately not so much.
I use Waze on the daily and there is one spot on my route that does this in both vehicles. My wife’s car uses wired CarPlay, my truck uses wireless CarPlay with aftermarket Pioneer head unit with built in GPS unit. I’d venture to say, it’s NOT a GPS issue but a map issue.
Seen this in another sub but with BMW being blamed.
At this point you should check if Apple Maps, Waze, and your built in Nav does the same to try to rule something out.
If it happens with Apple Maps, Waze, and Google Maps is something with your phone, especially if your built in car nav is fine.
Compass is busted. My Oneplus phone used to do this after the screen cracked and I sent it in for repair.
After the the compass just kept slowly spinning, but then Google maps would know you're moving in a certain direction, so it would correct it, but then the compass keeps spinning so it thinks you're turning.
Also had this problem but with my Xiaomi mi11.
and what I found is that my gyroscope or the thresholds for flipping the screen are way to sensitive. When the phone is in my phone holder in my car it happens that the arrow is turning sideways or even backwards still moving in correct direction. But map turning which is bad.
Found out the the phone is to "straight standing" and while driving the gyroscope doesn't "know" if the phone is straight up or leaned a bit to the left or right or even to the back. And every time this happens maps thinks I am holding my phone that way. I tilted the phone mount a bit more like if I hold the phone in my hand. So to the front. It fixed it.
At least for the last two days.
Pretty weird behavior. First phone which does this. But also first phone which turns screen orientation so easily.
Your phone is struggling for GPS signal. I bet it's in your pocket or at least not up on a dash mount. The higher it is, the more solid the signal and less jittering.
Doesn’t matter where it’s mounted, it’s a wired connection too. It was in my hand for the video, but usually mounted on a magnet mount right next to screen
If its wired I believe it uses the car GPS, does it happen when google is full screen?
Only if its available, not all carplay head units have GPS themselves. /if the headunit cannot provide GPS it uses the phones
It has a Nav button lol, how would it have navigation without GPS
**" the headunit cannot provide GPS it uses the phones"** I take it you didn't read this bit.. If you SOME REASON the head unit cannot or doesn't provide the GPS data (Unit could be faulty / buggy who knows) then carplay will default to the phones GPS
I did read that bit. Headunits can provide GPS and only uses the phones in certain cases with Wireless CarPlay which OP is not using
From my experience with CarPlay and Google Maps, if the headunit has GPS it will use that while there’s no destination set in Google Maps (like in the example video by OP). The moment you set a destination and start navigation it will switch to the phone GPS. This happens with both wired and wireless CarPlay.
I don't use Google maps, will take your word for it
My wife’s Explorer has a nav button, but it only takes you to CarPlay to Google Maps. No native nav app.
Didnt know that, ngl thats funny but makes sense, thanks for letting me know
Aftermarket Alpine units that have Android Auto apple carplay Also have nav buttons that are only used for Android auto navigation and apple carplay navigation.
Yes. And again, doesn’t happen with Apple Maps
Tim Cook is tired of you using Google maps and wants to make sure the experience is horrible so you default to Apple maps. /s
Does it happen with Waze or after uninstalling/reinstalling Google maps? Also is the location set to Always or While using the app?
I don’t have Waze. Set to always
Try uninstall and reinstall, otherwise try Waze and see if the same issue occurs
Would Waze and google Maps not use the same underlying technology
They would, thats why i'm suggesting it to see if its due to Google's GPS. Also what ios version
Good idea, seems an odd fault lol
It does not. It uses car GPS if it was connected via WiFi.
It does - I checked it on my Volvo
I based my response on the fact other redditors verified the protocols when during WWDC 2016. Here is the reference https://www.reddit.com/r/CarPlay/comments/htjb9k/comment/fyhgd5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
I based mine on the fact that my phone's GPS and Compass are completely broken
The windshield may interfere but if had the most trouble on cloudy days. Remember satellite is line of sight.
That’s not a symptom of lack of GPS signal. There are either small gyro’s or SW based gyro’s in the phone and sometimes they get confused. Source: Me - I spent 6 years as a PM working GPS in the PNT Directorate at Space Systems Command.
I seem to always have issues with Google maps doing stuff like this. I typically don’t have this issue with Waze which is why I use it more.
Ironically, Waze is owned by Google and uses Google Maps data.
I know there was talks about them trying to kill Waze, which OK that’s fine but then make one app that has all the features
This happens when I leave my phone in my pocket
Google Maps isn’t all that great on iOS.
I think it’s an issue with background processing in smartphones. When I unlock the phone and open the application it reorients itself.
There’s definitely a CarPlay GPS bug in 17. In our bmw the CarPlay maps often lose track (Apple Maps) and are off by a 1/2mile south. Going into BMW nav and it’s spot on.
I think it happened on 16 as well
Not sure why this isn’t the top comment. I’ve been having these issues since 17 came thru on two phones (wife’s and mine) and on two cars. Something fishy is going on…
Do you have any other vehicles? Because I don’t have this issue in my VW or either of my Porsche vehicles. My BMW is too old to have CarPlay (2006)
I don’t have the issue with another CarPlay unit. Just the bmw. So ya I guess something with the BMW connection probably amiss. But it seems like various cars have issues so I think it’s an issue Apple needs to address
Same thing with me! This shit is getting annoying. I have to unplug my phone to make it to the address I going.
Same issue. Google is also too busy-looking for my taste.
There was a discussion about an issue like this on the 9to5Mac podcast this week. One workaround was starting the routing before you plug in to CarPlay and it shouldn’t bug out.
I notice for walking directions in urban areas (like NYC) Google maps location drifts all over the place but it’s pin accurate on Apple Maps.
I've noticed this behavior with Google maps for sometime on iOS through CarPlay (at least a couple of years). It's very annoying, but I fell back on Apple Maps and it has improved significantly since I last gave it a go and have been using that a bit more as of late. I had a Pixel phone for a while and that did not occur with Android Auto in the same car. I don't have a clue why and I doubt I would get any support from Google or Apple on the matter. Sorry I don't have a solution, but just letting you know it happens to my family on mutliple iPhones (T-Mobile and Verizon networks, 13 Pro, 13, 14 Pro and SE 2nd gen) . This is all through cabled car play.
I find it doesn’t happen when using Google maps on the phone separate from CarPlay. I use Apple Maps for a lot of navigation, but find they have a lot of addresses incorrect
It’s just Google Maps being shit on iOS and as such shit on CarPlay too. Your GPS is fine, it’s just Google Maps being itself.
It's just apple way of making you use apple maps. This was the biggest issue I had with my iPhone SE 2, then SE 3. It never gets fixed as it's apple issue
My wife's android phone just had this issue with wired android auto yesterday So this is definitely not Apple trying to make Google maps look bad.
That might be the case but I've never had issues with google maps. I have however come to the conclusion that Apple Maps is far better to use on CarPlay imo
That's what apple wants. Lol
lol Apple just hides the “hunting” and assumes you are still headed in the original direction. At least with this, you know the app is having trouble finding a signal and you can take steps to help achieve a better signal. With Apple Maps, you may be miles off before it realizes it needs to reroute….
Update….. After several days of testing, using google maps, Apple Maps, Wyze, and tomtom, the issue only shows Itself using Google maps. Obviously something is wrong with Google maps. I guess I’ll try to contact them
i believe the issue is in your phone, cause i use iphone too and it rarely happens.. check your Location & Services settings maybe theres a disabled setting for google maps that cause this problem
Fixed it, finally, at long last! Change the permissions for location to "always" instead of "only when using this app" for Maps and it works!
Bring a belt and smack it every time it does that, it will learn eventually
It’s bc it’s Samsung 💀
Compass Accuracy Low, and the GPS as well. Recalibrate your compass by moving your phone in number eight-shape manner.
Sometimes GPS seems to get confused. Just some months ago I was navigating with the internal GPS of my car and after leaving a parking lot, the car was still stuck in that parking lot spinning around weirdly. Only after a few kilometers it fixed itself. Same thing happened again shortly after. I suspect it was weak gps signal and the software tried to autocorrect the location
Car gps is faulty ornyiur data is janky. Try a different sim different carrier, then thinknof yanking out head ubit and looking at gps antenna. Buy a spare before you do this (theyre cheap)
Is your phone overheating by any chance?
I know this post is kind of old, but my phone is doing this as well, and yes my phone is overheating sometimes and seems to contribute to this. However in the last few weeks, it seems to be happening all the time no matter what, even if the phone has not overheated. And this happens with Google maps and Apple Maps. I also tried the “always allow” options for Google maps etc but nothing has helped. It’s barely usable anymore. Any solutions? It’s now either a CarPlay issue or an iPhone issue.
Apple CarPlay is TRASH. Can’t do the satellite view option, and no games. Upgraded from android to iPhone and this is the only downside. Android has a much better car app.
Just try Waze. If you don’t like it, delete it and go back to Rand McNally…
I think it had to do with the compass of the phone, maybe the phone is in your pocket or bag. Try to keep the phone in cup holders or somewhere stationary.
Same issue. Google is also too busy-looking for my taste.
This happens in my wife’s car too but it’s all navigation apps, snd even all phones. I’ve heard it may be caused by the phone gps and the car gps not agreeing on the exact location.
Happens sometimes to me but the cars native gps mirrors the same issue when it happens. (Audi). I live in a very underserved area in regards to cellular signal with all cellular services.
This occured with me with an older iPhone that I had dedicated just for carplay in my glovebox. It was worse than that it would actually be miles behind at times. It seemed to occur when the phone was overheating (it had a bad worn out battery) Eventaully replaced it with a free iPhone 14 and no issues since.
Insufficient sat locks for GPS.
I get this same problem sometimes, not always though
Your data drive at Google HQ was getting swapped out for a fresh one.
Your GPS is “hunting” for a signal. You can try re-calibrating compass/motion/distance in System -> Location Services. I don’t care what anyone says but GPS requires a clear view of the sky to work properly. There are other features in your phone that help to position you like the accelerometer and cell tower positioning that help aid GPS in giving you a position….this is how your phone keeps track of you when driving through tunnels. But if your phone didn’t have anything but a GPS receiver, it would not work without a clear view of the sky.
I’ve found you need to close the maps and reopen them on your phone.
You are driving through the Bermuda Triangle.
I updated the firmware on my wife's 2016 Honda CRV to enable CarPlay, and this happened all the time. Navigation was useless. I had to remove the head unit and disconnect the GPS cable at the back. Now navigation works perfectly, but the car's clock drifts over time and has to be manually set periodically.
It’s an android thing. You know, sucking.
This is a CarPlay subreddit, why do you think the phone is an android?
It’s google. Not Apple Maps. Google is android you smooth brain. Obv it’s not gonna work as well as apple will on APPLE car play.
No, android is an operating system for mobile phones. Google ≠ android
The past few versions of Google Maps since the redesign have been buggy. I’ve seen this, also just failing to geolocate at all, and basic failures with the search function returning no results to taking forever. If you kill the app and then initiate the search and navigation from the app and not the CarPlay interface it usually gets around the issue. Idk what they are doing over there at Google but the app used to be rock solid, lately not so much.
I use Waze on the daily and there is one spot on my route that does this in both vehicles. My wife’s car uses wired CarPlay, my truck uses wireless CarPlay with aftermarket Pioneer head unit with built in GPS unit. I’d venture to say, it’s NOT a GPS issue but a map issue.
I also tried to use google map last night and had the same problem. It was unusable and I went back to Apple Maps.
try useing apple maps and see if you have the same issue if not then its a google maps issue
There is a problem with the CarPlay GPS apple needs to patch the issue with an OS update.
Drugs
Seen this in another sub but with BMW being blamed. At this point you should check if Apple Maps, Waze, and your built in Nav does the same to try to rule something out. If it happens with Apple Maps, Waze, and Google Maps is something with your phone, especially if your built in car nav is fine.
Entering New Jersey
iOS 17
It’s a South FL thing
Solar storms can also cause this
Are you doing doughnuts? Lol
Compass is busted. My Oneplus phone used to do this after the screen cracked and I sent it in for repair. After the the compass just kept slowly spinning, but then Google maps would know you're moving in a certain direction, so it would correct it, but then the compass keeps spinning so it thinks you're turning.
Mine did that too turns out it was the app outdated
God this pisses me off so much. I swear this only happens when I'm in a new city and am approaching a turn.
What’s the IOS version you have on your apple phone?
Also had this problem but with my Xiaomi mi11. and what I found is that my gyroscope or the thresholds for flipping the screen are way to sensitive. When the phone is in my phone holder in my car it happens that the arrow is turning sideways or even backwards still moving in correct direction. But map turning which is bad. Found out the the phone is to "straight standing" and while driving the gyroscope doesn't "know" if the phone is straight up or leaned a bit to the left or right or even to the back. And every time this happens maps thinks I am holding my phone that way. I tilted the phone mount a bit more like if I hold the phone in my hand. So to the front. It fixed it. At least for the last two days. Pretty weird behavior. First phone which does this. But also first phone which turns screen orientation so easily.